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mustachianit

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Feel Like an Oucast.......
« on: October 13, 2012, 08:55:54 AM »
I am so happy with the changes I have made.  My husband is on board to a point and lets me handle things how I want to because I do all of the finances.  He was already frugal to a point.  He is annoyed that I am trying to cut the gas bill, electricity, and phone bills.  Well I was able to cut the electricity by $20.00 this month by unplugging things and keeping everything turned off.  I got excited and then it kind of made me sad because I have no physical person to share my happiness with when I am doing things that I never dreamed were possible. People think I am depriving myself now so I cannot really tell people when the reality is I am taking care of myself more now.

So grateful for the forum!!!

Is anyone else having this issue?

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Re: Feel Like an Oucast.......
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2012, 09:40:52 AM »
*raises hand!* Yeah I also have no physical person to talk to about these things. My partner often tries to rescue me from supposed deprivation by encouraging spending in areas where I'm trying to cut down. And he also gets annoyed when I bring up ways to reduce the phone or insurance bills. If it weren't for the forum (and MMM of course!) I would have been flailing around unfulfilled, being peer-pressured into consumerism even as it went against my values, and feeling trapped in my career.

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Re: Feel Like an Oucast.......
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2012, 01:29:36 PM »
Yeah, I feel like my husband is the same way.  I agree with you.  I do not want to be like everyone else and I do not feel deprived and it does not seem that you do either.  :)  I used to feel unfulfilled to bet at least that is gone.
Thanks for responding it is good to talk about people about it and hear what they are going through too.

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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2012, 02:06:35 PM »
Yes..however, things improve over time. You'll network eventually with others who are more likeminded. And still, I think diversity is fantastic.. people of different walks of life, ways of doing things. However, this is one area that I have found more struggle with, because while I live amongst my 'peer group' (other mid-career, mid-30's to 40's, mid-to-upper class, children, etc) it is NOT as common in our particular community to find others that are living the way we do, with the same goals in mind.

Those folks (a strong percentage, I'm not going to make a sweeping statement) are still living it up like it's 1999 (pre-recession).. Big, flashy cars, double incomes (which is fine but they have an uber consumable lifestyle to go with it). So, I feel a little out of place. However, some great people have come into my life that I can find common ground with. Church has also been great, because the socialization isn't centered around going to best restaurants in town, who is going where on vacation, and all of the other things that just place us surrounded by Jones's and lead to honest to God temptation for my husband (who is while on board, a lot easier persuaded by stuff than I am). So, church.. you're going for bible studies, there's potlucks, kids are gathered together playing. It just creates some ease for me that I enjoy. And then, we choose to move in a sub-neighborhood in our planned community that is majority retirees. How does this benefit us? They aren't about what we're wearing, what we're driving, and what fancy things our kids are doing after school, yada yada. They're more impressed by the fact that we sold one of our vehicles and husband paid cash for a motorcycle, the fact that I was riding my bike on an errands route, that the kids are in free after school activities through school, and that we can stay home on a Friday night still having a great time.

Anyhow, hang in there. Maybe you can find some folks to talk to by going to places like farmer's market/art fairs, library, church, even vegetarian meetups (you don't have to be vegetarian).. but along those lines, be open to places that people are just living more simply, consciously, and are more apt to 'get' where you're coming from. I've even been to a permaculture forum for urban type gardeners (I may have the term incorrect).. but even though I don't live in an urban setting (we're in suburbia).. I'm like minded where I"m in a townhouse with a front entry and small back porch (like many with condos, garage apartments, and brownstone walk up townhouses in our urban area).  Am I growing all of my food? No. However, it was cool to hang out with people who do things other than blowing $100 at the movie theatre on a Friday night and instead potluck awesome food and talk about growing food on their backstep. That's just me, though.. And my husband brought back a Didgerdoo from his recent work in Australia, so we personally like to break out the smoker/grill, listen to our brilliant daughter play her instruments and sing, husband play the didge, play darts, go fishing, or on a walk. Would it be fantastic to meet a few other families to get together with on the weekend and do these things? Yes. However, one step at a time and am at least glad I have a few people (outside of the 'net) to talk to about our FI goals and who don't stare blankly at us with ways we save money.

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Re: Feel Like an Oucast.......
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2012, 02:19:23 PM »
You should check out the meetup board of this forum to see if there are any other Mustachians in your area. I met up with two other posters, and it was great! Funnily enough, we didn't even talk about financial stuff too much. Just being in a room with other frugal folks is a huge boost.

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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2012, 05:31:10 PM »
I don't feel like an outcast, exactly...but here's a fun story: My work laptop is enormous and my boss gave me an over the shoulder canvas bag to carry it. I pulled my neck (nothing serious) and asked him for a backpack or rolling bag instead. I sent him the exact size of the computer and he provided a rolling bag that he already owned. The laptop is too big, the bag can't be zipped. I told him that it didn't fit and he said "OH Come ON! Not even if you don't zip it?" I let him know that the the computer doesn't fit in the bag if the bag can't be zipped and that it might fall out, get stolen, or rained on. He doesn't think any of those things are a big risk. SO, I told him that I felt like I looked stupid walking around with the bag unzipped and the computer hanging out like that. He said "Don't talk to me about fashion, I've seen what you drive".

I didn't even know how to respond because my 1st instinct was to tell him to fuck off. (I drive a 99 Corolla with a little over 200K miles. She's not a beauty queen).

I said "hey, there's nothing wrong with my car" and that was the end of the discussion. Me and that computer take long, leisurely walks in the rain. Modification after re-read: I take leisurely walks in the rain to and from my car. I don't run. Not exactly the rebel I wish to be. Also, what kind of A-hole makes fun of his employees cars? He KNOWS my salary and I know it is less than 1/3 of his.
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Re: Feel Like an Oucast.......
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2012, 06:03:45 PM »
Erin, sounds like your boss is a douche. I don't know you, but you can take this post as a confirmation from an independent third-party that he is indeed a douche. Don't expend any more energy or mental freedom on this, your weekend, thinking about him. Starting.... now.

And for what it's worth, I think your car is awesome. I look forward to having 200k on my Toyota and will consider it a badge of honor.

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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2012, 11:39:41 PM »
Erin, thanks for sharing, made my day. I too have a massive work laptop, thankfully our IS department supplied us with backpavks just big enough.

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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2012, 05:59:55 AM »
Living in Los Angeles, it's pretty easy to feel like an outcast due to one's unwillingness to spend and consume.

My partner and I were just talking about this yesterday, as she feels she is losing a long-time friend because that friend is changing her previous, earthy attitudes.  When last we went to this woman's home, all she could talk about her many vacations, the expensive wines she consumes, and decorating her two homes.

She's a government worker (big money) and her husband is literally a rocket scientist. We know they are worth millions. But it's sad to see her suddenly care about "stuff" when she used to care about people.

I have lost many friends due to money. I just didn't want to go out to eat every darn time they wanted to say hello. Or listen to them talk ad nauseum about fancy shoes or cars. We'll be leaving California in about five years. Maybe Olympia will have more like-minded people.