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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #50 on: September 24, 2019, 08:46:54 AM »
I'm pretty sure that car engines run with a very large margin of error. I don't know anything at all about engines. I do know that I don't check diddly besides oil and water in any car I have, and I might only get it serviced every decade. Yet they still last for decades. If something sounds weird, I get it checked. Other than that, nada. My conclusion is this: don't get all wound up about what mechanics say. They're trying to make money. Some things are important, like cambelts. Some things are expensive, like head gaskets. Get the cambelt replaced when you buy a used car, and regularly thereafter. Take the car to a mechanic if it's overheating. Drive with the radio off so you can hear the damn thing running and you'll know if you have an issue. Don't stress about the rest. The hood of my car hasn't even been OPEN in three or four years. Aliens could have replaced it with some kind of Tommyknockers style set up for all I know.....

This is terrible, dangerous advice.

If you want to take this advice for "things that make you go" that's fine you're generally only risking inconvenience and financial woes to yourself.

Do NOT take this advice for "things that make you able to control the vehicle". That means brakes, tires, tie rods, ball joints, suspension, etc. Neglect these things and you risk your life and the lives of others around you.

I agree that this is dangerous advice. Your average person has no idea what a "normal" noise is supposed to be on a car.

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #51 on: September 24, 2019, 11:51:43 AM »
I'm pretty sure that car engines run with a very large margin of error. I don't know anything at all about engines. I do know that I don't check diddly besides oil and water in any car I have, and I might only get it serviced every decade. Yet they still last for decades. If something sounds weird, I get it checked. Other than that, nada. My conclusion is this: don't get all wound up about what mechanics say. They're trying to make money. Some things are important, like cambelts. Some things are expensive, like head gaskets. Get the cambelt replaced when you buy a used car, and regularly thereafter. Take the car to a mechanic if it's overheating. Drive with the radio off so you can hear the damn thing running and you'll know if you have an issue. Don't stress about the rest. The hood of my car hasn't even been OPEN in three or four years. Aliens could have replaced it with some kind of Tommyknockers style set up for all I know.....

This is terrible, dangerous advice.

If you want to take this advice for "things that make you go" that's fine you're generally only risking inconvenience and financial woes to yourself.

Do NOT take this advice for "things that make you able to control the vehicle". That means brakes, tires, tie rods, ball joints, suspension, etc. Neglect these things and you risk your life and the lives of others around you.

It's not terrible, dangerous advice at all. It's simply saying that you need to keep an eye on your car, including be aware of how it drives and the sounds it makes. If something changes, ask yourself why and do something about it. There are a lot of warning signs before your tyres are so worn they're dangerous, or before your brakes or suspension goes. Why do I need to pay someone to service or inspect it all the time? I'm in it and driving it for an hour or more every single day. If the steering is pulling, or the driving feels weird, or there are any tiny noises or changes, I will notice. I've had a car with a cracked head gasket. I noticed the temperature rising when it wouldn't normally, and took it to a mechanic to find out why. I've had a car with wheel bearings that went. I noticed the sound and took it to a mechanic to find out why. I know how much tread is on my tyres because I clean my car myself and have a look at such things when I'm cleaning. I just recently had a fan belt tightened because the engine made a slight squealing noise.

Seriously, turn the radio off and listen to your car when you drive.

Tell us, what does a nearly rotted through, about to spring a leak as you drive down the highway, coolant hose sound like?

What does acidified/moisture saturated brake fluid sound like as it eats away at your brake hoses and seals and allows rusting of the metal components?

What does a nicely treaded but rotted tire sound like?

What does a malfunctioning ABS sensor sound like (before you need that abs system)?

What does a rotted timing belt sound like?


The advice to "wait until something shows user recognizable symptoms" is foolish. By the time those symptoms show up it's likely that damage has already been done. For example, waiting until your transmissions starts shifting roughly (usually meaning your transmission fluid has degraded) means your transmission has incurred damage because that fluid is no longer preventing metal on metal contact. Or, waiting for your cooling system to start malfunctioning means you are causing damage to your engine block.

Trying to avoid minimal costs of regular, skilled inspections is penny-wise, pound-foolish.

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #52 on: September 24, 2019, 12:15:57 PM »
True, I do not have a shadetree friend.  I will be taking my car into the shop tomorrow to have the rear brake shoes replaces at a cost of $225.  And I've done enough research online to the point where I plan on changing the transmission fluid myself.
Congratulations on taking a first step in doing your own car maintenance!  Let us know how it goes.  Keep at it, and before you know it, you'll be changing your own timing belt!

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #53 on: September 24, 2019, 01:12:56 PM »
True, I do not have a shadetree friend.  I will be taking my car into the shop tomorrow to have the rear brake shoes replaces at a cost of $225.  And I've done enough research online to the point where I plan on changing the transmission fluid myself.
Congratulations on taking a first step in doing your own car maintenance!  Let us know how it goes.  Keep at it, and before you know it, you'll be changing your own timing belt!
I'll definitely post on her how it goes.  I won't be doing it immediately, but probably within the next few months, since when I checked the transmission fluid, it still had a pinkish color to it, so it's probably not urgent. 

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #54 on: September 24, 2019, 01:37:56 PM »
How many miles ago was the transmission fluid changed?  I know that when I change mine at the specified 30,000 mile interval, it's still a (dirty) red color.  And color isn't generally a reliable indicator of remaining life, not to mention highly subjective.

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #55 on: September 24, 2019, 03:48:03 PM »
Consider that winter is coming. Not fun to do some shadetree tasks once it gets cold/rainy if you work outside. Many years (without a garage) I'd procrastinate until it was cold and something needed doing. I'll bet everyone here has a few entertaining stories about making due when younger, less experienced, poorer, etc.

Mine is about doing a clutch job on a FWD car and having trouble getting the input shaft to "stab" back into the clutch. I kept at it until well after 1AM in the driveway laying on my back in 25F weather. Got it done though and drove it to work the next day. Procrastination got me. I had weeks warning that the clutch was on its way out (slipping). 

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #56 on: September 24, 2019, 04:00:26 PM »
How many miles ago was the transmission fluid changed?  I know that when I change mine at the specified 30,000 mile interval, it's still a (dirty) red color.  And color isn't generally a reliable indicator of remaining life, not to mention highly subjective.
It's never been changed.

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #57 on: September 24, 2019, 04:01:17 PM »
Consider that winter is coming. Not fun to do some shadetree tasks once it gets cold/rainy if you work outside. Many years (without a garage) I'd procrastinate until it was cold and something needed doing. I'll bet everyone here has a few entertaining stories about making due when younger, less experienced, poorer, etc.

Mine is about doing a clutch job on a FWD car and having trouble getting the input shaft to "stab" back into the clutch. I kept at it until well after 1AM in the driveway laying on my back in 25F weather. Got it done though and drove it to work the next day. Procrastination got me. I had weeks warning that the clutch was on its way out (slipping).
Heh, for me it was a halfshaft I hadn't fully inserted into the transaxle (turns out the splines on either side of the retaining ring didn't line up), and had stripped.  I was on my back at the entrance to our neighborhood in January, putting the old driveshaft back in.

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #58 on: September 24, 2019, 04:03:12 PM »
How many miles ago was the transmission fluid changed?  I know that when I change mine at the specified 30,000 mile interval, it's still a (dirty) red color.  And color isn't generally a reliable indicator of remaining life, not to mention highly subjective.
It's never been changed.
WHAT!?!?!  128,000 kms and it's never been changed?  Dude, you need to get the tools and do this task pronto, because you've gone 2.5x as far on that fluid as you should have.

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #59 on: September 24, 2019, 05:01:55 PM »
How many miles ago was the transmission fluid changed?  I know that when I change mine at the specified 30,000 mile interval, it's still a (dirty) red color.  And color isn't generally a reliable indicator of remaining life, not to mention highly subjective.
It's never been changed.
WHAT!?!?!  128,000 kms and it's never been changed?  Dude, you need to get the tools and do this task pronto, because you've gone 2.5x as far on that fluid as you should have.
I've read many people say it doesn't need to be changed until 100,000 miles.

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #60 on: September 24, 2019, 07:10:56 PM »
I'm pretty sure that car engines run with a very large margin of error. I don't know anything at all about engines. I do know that I don't check diddly besides oil and water in any car I have, and I might only get it serviced every decade. Yet they still last for decades. If something sounds weird, I get it checked. Other than that, nada. My conclusion is this: don't get all wound up about what mechanics say. They're trying to make money. Some things are important, like cambelts. Some things are expensive, like head gaskets. Get the cambelt replaced when you buy a used car, and regularly thereafter. Take the car to a mechanic if it's overheating. Drive with the radio off so you can hear the damn thing running and you'll know if you have an issue. Don't stress about the rest. The hood of my car hasn't even been OPEN in three or four years. Aliens could have replaced it with some kind of Tommyknockers style set up for all I know.....

This is terrible, dangerous advice.

If you want to take this advice for "things that make you go" that's fine you're generally only risking inconvenience and financial woes to yourself.

Do NOT take this advice for "things that make you able to control the vehicle". That means brakes, tires, tie rods, ball joints, suspension, etc. Neglect these things and you risk your life and the lives of others around you.

It's not terrible, dangerous advice at all. It's simply saying that you need to keep an eye on your car, including be aware of how it drives and the sounds it makes. If something changes, ask yourself why and do something about it. There are a lot of warning signs before your tyres are so worn they're dangerous, or before your brakes or suspension goes. Why do I need to pay someone to service or inspect it all the time? I'm in it and driving it for an hour or more every single day. If the steering is pulling, or the driving feels weird, or there are any tiny noises or changes, I will notice. I've had a car with a cracked head gasket. I noticed the temperature rising when it wouldn't normally, and took it to a mechanic to find out why. I've had a car with wheel bearings that went. I noticed the sound and took it to a mechanic to find out why. I know how much tread is on my tyres because I clean my car myself and have a look at such things when I'm cleaning. I just recently had a fan belt tightened because the engine made a slight squealing noise.

Seriously, turn the radio off and listen to your car when you drive.

Tell us, what does a nearly rotted through, about to spring a leak as you drive down the highway, coolant hose sound like?

What does acidified/moisture saturated brake fluid sound like as it eats away at your brake hoses and seals and allows rusting of the metal components?

What does a nicely treaded but rotted tire sound like?

What does a malfunctioning ABS sensor sound like (before you need that abs system)?

What does a rotted timing belt sound like?


The advice to "wait until something shows user recognizable symptoms" is foolish. By the time those symptoms show up it's likely that damage has already been done. For example, waiting until your transmissions starts shifting roughly (usually meaning your transmission fluid has degraded) means your transmission has incurred damage because that fluid is no longer preventing metal on metal contact. Or, waiting for your cooling system to start malfunctioning means you are causing damage to your engine block.

Trying to avoid minimal costs of regular, skilled inspections is penny-wise, pound-foolish.

Meh, I really doubt that any of that would be caught at an inspection anyway. I watch them do it - they spent four minutes with a torch looking at the underside, they test the brakes and lights and that's about it. Even a service is what? Oil, water, spark plugs and a quick look at whatever belts are visible??? Years ago I bought a cheap car and drove it for nearly a year before it CAUGHT FIRE AND HAD TO BE ABANDONED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. During that time, it was making weird noises regularly and I took it to three separate mechanics, all with good word of mouth recommendations, to diagnose it. Nothing. I had car people I know look at it in some detail and nothing. Even after the fire, no one could actually tell me what the hell was wrong with it. I spent more on inspections than I did on the frickin car. I don't avoid inspections specifically. And it's not about money. It's about not wasting my damn time.

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #61 on: September 24, 2019, 07:36:17 PM »
How many miles ago was the transmission fluid changed?  I know that when I change mine at the specified 30,000 mile interval, it's still a (dirty) red color.  And color isn't generally a reliable indicator of remaining life, not to mention highly subjective.
It's never been changed.
WHAT!?!?!  128,000 kms and it's never been changed?  Dude, you need to get the tools and do this task pronto, because you've gone 2.5x as far on that fluid as you should have.
I've read many people say it doesn't need to be changed until 100,000 miles.
The maintenance guide for the 2005 Corolla specifies inspection of the transmission fluid every 30k miles, and replacement at those intervals if you are towing.

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #62 on: September 25, 2019, 02:58:50 AM »
How many miles ago was the transmission fluid changed?  I know that when I change mine at the specified 30,000 mile interval, it's still a (dirty) red color.  And color isn't generally a reliable indicator of remaining life, not to mention highly subjective.
It's never been changed.
WHAT!?!?!  128,000 kms and it's never been changed?  Dude, you need to get the tools and do this task pronto, because you've gone 2.5x as far on that fluid as you should have.
I've read many people say it doesn't need to be changed until 100,000 miles.
The maintenance guide for the 2005 Corolla specifies inspection of the transmission fluid every 30k miles, and replacement at those intervals if you are towing.
I've never towed anything with my vehicle. Does that make a difference?

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #63 on: September 25, 2019, 08:47:25 AM »
I've never towed anything with my vehicle. Does that make a difference?
It depends, really.  Towing puts greater strain on the drivetrain, hence the increased maintenance.  However, driving up and down hills has similar effects, as does a driving routine that consists mostly of short trips (i.e. lots of starting and stopping, a higher percentage of run time when the engine and transmission are cold).  That's the case for most people, hence the recommendation to change the fluid.

Manufacturers have started selling the idea of a "lifetime" transmission, where you never have to change the fluid (or filter) at any time during the vehicle's life.  While improvements in design and materials have made transmissions last longer, making the filter inaccessible also means that it has a much more finite lifetime.

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #64 on: September 25, 2019, 01:41:41 PM »
And if you haven't changed the spark plugs - consider at least loosening and re-torquing the spark plugs. There are stories about spark plugs that seize in their hole despite the manufacturer's promise that they don't need to be changed but once every 100K miles. Happened to a friend with a GM product.

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #65 on: September 25, 2019, 01:55:44 PM »
And if you haven't changed the spark plugs - consider at least loosening and re-torquing the spark plugs. There are stories about spark plugs that seize in their hole despite the manufacturer's promise that they don't need to be changed but once every 100K miles. Happened to a friend with a GM product.
Good tip.  How did he eventually get the spark plug out, or did he? 

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #66 on: September 25, 2019, 02:03:56 PM »
And if you haven't changed the spark plugs - consider at least loosening and re-torquing the spark plugs. There are stories about spark plugs that seize in their hole despite the manufacturer's promise that they don't need to be changed but once every 100K miles. Happened to a friend with a GM product.

Spark plugs seizing is extremely common now that they aren't removed and replaced every 20-30k. I learned that the hard way myself. Corrosion and baking in heat is what causes them to seize. Regardless of make (had the same issue with a friend's Toyota @ 110k).  They are easy to break too if you get to rough trying to un-seize them, and if you break one it's well outside the average shade tree mechanic's ability to fix. Plugs are so easy and cheap they ought to be replaced on a 20-30k schedule anyway just to avoid that particular hell.

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #67 on: September 25, 2019, 02:05:43 PM »
And if you haven't changed the spark plugs - consider at least loosening and re-torquing the spark plugs. There are stories about spark plugs that seize in their hole despite the manufacturer's promise that they don't need to be changed but once every 100K miles. Happened to a friend with a GM product.
Good tip.  How did he eventually get the spark plug out, or did he?

Probably penetrating oil, a long handled socket wrench along with a lot of patience and prayer, hah. That's how I did it...

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #68 on: September 25, 2019, 06:26:25 PM »
And if you haven't changed the spark plugs - consider at least loosening and re-torquing the spark plugs.
Also, if you're going to the trouble of removing them, you may as well check the spark plug gaps with a feeler gauge, and correct as necessary.

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #69 on: September 25, 2019, 07:47:16 PM »
I'm pretty sure that car engines run with a very large margin of error. I don't know anything at all about engines. I do know that I don't check diddly besides oil and water in any car I have, and I might only get it serviced every decade. Yet they still last for decades. If something sounds weird, I get it checked. Other than that, nada. My conclusion is this: don't get all wound up about what mechanics say. They're trying to make money. Some things are important, like cambelts. Some things are expensive, like head gaskets. Get the cambelt replaced when you buy a used car, and regularly thereafter. Take the car to a mechanic if it's overheating. Drive with the radio off so you can hear the damn thing running and you'll know if you have an issue. Don't stress about the rest. The hood of my car hasn't even been OPEN in three or four years. Aliens could have replaced it with some kind of Tommyknockers style set up for all I know.....

This is terrible, dangerous advice.

If you want to take this advice for "things that make you go" that's fine you're generally only risking inconvenience and financial woes to yourself.

Do NOT take this advice for "things that make you able to control the vehicle". That means brakes, tires, tie rods, ball joints, suspension, etc. Neglect these things and you risk your life and the lives of others around you.

It's not terrible, dangerous advice at all. It's simply saying that you need to keep an eye on your car, including be aware of how it drives and the sounds it makes. If something changes, ask yourself why and do something about it. There are a lot of warning signs before your tyres are so worn they're dangerous, or before your brakes or suspension goes. Why do I need to pay someone to service or inspect it all the time? I'm in it and driving it for an hour or more every single day. If the steering is pulling, or the driving feels weird, or there are any tiny noises or changes, I will notice. I've had a car with a cracked head gasket. I noticed the temperature rising when it wouldn't normally, and took it to a mechanic to find out why. I've had a car with wheel bearings that went. I noticed the sound and took it to a mechanic to find out why. I know how much tread is on my tyres because I clean my car myself and have a look at such things when I'm cleaning. I just recently had a fan belt tightened because the engine made a slight squealing noise.

Seriously, turn the radio off and listen to your car when you drive.

Tell us, what does a nearly rotted through, about to spring a leak as you drive down the highway, coolant hose sound like?

What does acidified/moisture saturated brake fluid sound like as it eats away at your brake hoses and seals and allows rusting of the metal components?

What does a nicely treaded but rotted tire sound like?

What does a malfunctioning ABS sensor sound like (before you need that abs system)?

What does a rotted timing belt sound like?


The advice to "wait until something shows user recognizable symptoms" is foolish. By the time those symptoms show up it's likely that damage has already been done. For example, waiting until your transmissions starts shifting roughly (usually meaning your transmission fluid has degraded) means your transmission has incurred damage because that fluid is no longer preventing metal on metal contact. Or, waiting for your cooling system to start malfunctioning means you are causing damage to your engine block.

Trying to avoid minimal costs of regular, skilled inspections is penny-wise, pound-foolish.

Meh, I really doubt that any of that would be caught at an inspection anyway. I watch them do it - they spent four minutes with a torch looking at the underside, they test the brakes and lights and that's about it. Even a service is what? Oil, water, spark plugs and a quick look at whatever belts are visible??? Years ago I bought a cheap car and drove it for nearly a year before it CAUGHT FIRE AND HAD TO BE ABANDONED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. During that time, it was making weird noises regularly and I took it to three separate mechanics, all with good word of mouth recommendations, to diagnose it. Nothing. I had car people I know look at it in some detail and nothing. Even after the fire, no one could actually tell me what the hell was wrong with it. I spent more on inspections than I did on the frickin car. I don't avoid inspections specifically. And it's not about money. It's about not wasting my damn time.

Meh, I find getting stranded in the middle of nowhere a much bigger waste of time and money than regular maintenance.

What kind of fire was it?    (electrical, fuel, something else?)

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #70 on: September 26, 2019, 06:44:02 AM »
Bought my first Corolla a year ago after sitting in my mechanic's waiting room for years and listening to him give opinions on various cars. Land Rover, garbage. BMW, Mini-Cooper, Jeeps - avoid at all cost. Chryslers? Haven't been worth a crap in years.

One day I finally asked him what's the best car to buy. "Tell you what. Thirty-five years of doing this, I've never done anything but routine maintenance on a Toyota Corolla. Drive around. There's a reason many of the oldest cars you see on the road are Corollas."

Two months later, I bought a Corolla. My 16-year-old drives it mostly. When my Town & Country dies - or I get sick of pumping money into it - I'm buying a Camry.

My parents still use my 95 Cherokee that I drove in high school.  It has 240k miles.  My brother has a 93 Wrangler with 200k miles.  Dad had a 94 Cherokee that he sold with 210k on it with original clutch. I have an 04 Grand Cherokee with 140k miles that I've only done minor repairs for (like window regulator).  It's my daily beater and runs perfectly, albeit with rust.  Personally I don't get the hate for Jeep that I see.  In my experience, the things that go wrong on Jeeps are minor and generally very easy and cheap to replace.  My family has a combined somewhere between 600-800k miles on various Jeep 4.0L engines with ZERO engine or transmission problems.  Zero.  Sure Toyotas are designed to be very low maintenance, but when something does eventually go wrong...

I will agree with you on Land Rovers though.  Nightmares.


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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #71 on: September 26, 2019, 07:00:50 AM »
Sure Toyotas are designed to be very low maintenance, but when something does eventually go wrong...
...they're generally pretty easy to work on, at least in my case.  They're picky about ignition coils, and there's a trick to getting the timing belt covers off, but other than that, it's quite straightforward.  When my 20-year-old radiator cracked a couple years ago, I was surprised when it took me less than an hour to replace.

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #72 on: September 26, 2019, 03:28:36 PM »
And if you haven't changed the spark plugs - consider at least loosening and re-torquing the spark plugs. There are stories about spark plugs that seize in their hole despite the manufacturer's promise that they don't need to be changed but once every 100K miles. Happened to a friend with a GM product.
Good tip.  How did he eventually get the spark plug out, or did he?

The dealership had to get involved. I think in the end the head had to come off the engine.

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #73 on: September 26, 2019, 03:31:27 PM »
Bought my first Corolla a year ago after sitting in my mechanic's waiting room for years and listening to him give opinions on various cars. Land Rover, garbage. BMW, Mini-Cooper, Jeeps - avoid at all cost. Chryslers? Haven't been worth a crap in years.

One day I finally asked him what's the best car to buy. "Tell you what. Thirty-five years of doing this, I've never done anything but routine maintenance on a Toyota Corolla. Drive around. There's a reason many of the oldest cars you see on the road are Corollas."

Two months later, I bought a Corolla. My 16-year-old drives it mostly. When my Town & Country dies - or I get sick of pumping money into it - I'm buying a Camry.

My parents still use my 95 Cherokee that I drove in high school.  It has 240k miles.  My brother has a 93 Wrangler with 200k miles.  Dad had a 94 Cherokee that he sold with 210k on it with original clutch. I have an 04 Grand Cherokee with 140k miles that I've only done minor repairs for (like window regulator).  It's my daily beater and runs perfectly, albeit with rust.  Personally I don't get the hate for Jeep that I see.  In my experience, the things that go wrong on Jeeps are minor and generally very easy and cheap to replace.  My family has a combined somewhere between 600-800k miles on various Jeep 4.0L engines with ZERO engine or transmission problems.  Zero.  Sure Toyotas are designed to be very low maintenance, but when something does eventually go wrong...

I will agree with you on Land Rovers though.  Nightmares.

www.jeep.com/wrangler/capability.html

Towing - up to 3500 lbs.

That's all. The low tow capability puts it in line with many lesser CUVs. ;)

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #74 on: October 01, 2019, 11:42:45 AM »
You guys will be happy to hear that I changed the transmission fluid yesterday!  Thanks to you all for the tips and encouragement.

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #75 on: October 01, 2019, 11:55:58 AM »
You guys will be happy to hear that I changed the transmission fluid yesterday!  Thanks to you all for the tips and encouragement.

Whooo! Nicely done! :)

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #76 on: October 01, 2019, 12:40:53 PM »
www.jeep.com/wrangler/capability.html

Towing - up to 3500 lbs.

That's all. The low tow capability puts it in line with many lesser CUVs. ;)
Not to mention the severely underrated minivan.

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #77 on: October 01, 2019, 01:47:50 PM »
You guys will be happy to hear that I changed the transmission fluid yesterday!  Thanks to you all for the tips and encouragement.

Congrats! Can you stop by tonight and change the oil in my daily driver? I have to be out this evening... ;)

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Re: Getting my 15 year old Corolla inspected
« Reply #78 on: October 01, 2019, 04:59:03 PM »
You guys will be happy to hear that I changed the transmission fluid yesterday!  Thanks to you all for the tips and encouragement.

Congrats! Can you stop by tonight and change the oil in my daily driver? I have to be out this evening... ;)
lol I live in Canada so probably not!