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iwannaretire

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Geico/Travelers rant
« on: June 11, 2012, 07:07:55 PM »
I know there have been a lot of positive experiences with Geico with people on this forum, but I wanted to relay the nightmare I'm experiencing through Geico's property insurer, Travelers, in the hopes that others can avoid it.

I changed my auto and home insurance a few months ago and moved to Geico.  Geico placed the property insurance through Travelers.  After I made the payment and committed to the insurance and did not renew my State Farm policy, Travelers informed me they would be sending an inspector to the property.  The inspector came several weeks after my previous policy expired.

A few weeks later, I get a notice from Travelers that there is a broken bannister (really just a post) on my property that needs to be replaced and I need to contact them in 20 days.  They also raised the value of my property by 10 percent based on the inspection.  I asked the agent if I need to repair the bannister in 20 days, and she said I only need to notify her of our intent to do so in 20 days, which I did.  She said we only needed to repair the property before the end of the policy period.

I also asked her about the increase in property value.  She said it was because the inspector measured our property to be 200 square foot more than represented.  Our property has never been measured at that value, but she wouldn't budge (even after reviewing the property records) unless I sent her a drawing showing it was less.  I emailed her two different drawings showing the correct amount.  She initially said the underwriters wouldn't change, but after the discussing the matter further, she agreed that it looked like our drawings were the same as the inspectors and she would resubmit it.

That was the last I heard until today when I got a notice of cancellation in the mail.  The reason?  Failure to fix the bannister in 20 days and that the value of the property was higher than the coverage amount.   The value given was based on the 200 extra square feet given by the appraiser.   

So I called Travelers and asked why they would cancel me based on my prior conversation with the agent.  Unbelievably, he said that they had internal notes that they had agreed with our drawings and lowered the square footage of the house to match the lower square footable.  But he refused to acknowledge it was a mistake in the notice of cancellation.  He also said the agent was correct to tell me that I could fix the bannister at any time.  However, since that time, underwriting decided to cancel us anyway, so it wasn't her fault.  When I asked for assurance that Travelers would reinstate the policy if we fixed the bannister, he would not give that assurance.  Nor would he give me anything in writing as to what I could do to reinstate the policy.

Oh yeah, and over the phone, after talking with underwriting, Travelers came up with a brand new reason to cancel: that we had a few missing shingles from the roof.  We've replaced the roof since the inspector was here, but seems a little slimy to keep coming up with reasons.

Anyway, my quick research indicates that, at least in California, insurance companies can cancel your insurance within 60 days for any reason they wish.  So, just be careful when you get a quote from Travelers because they may try to renege later.

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Re: Geico/Travelers rant
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2012, 07:26:19 PM »
I had heard slimy things about GEICO itself in the past (such as cancelling people who made claims), so I never made the switch to save a few bucks.  I'd like to say I'm surprised that Travelers (I never knew they were associated with GEICO) pulled a stunt like they did, but now knowing they are connected to GEICO, I can't say that I am.  I'd say count your blessings that you won't have to deal with them!

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Re: Geico/Travelers rant
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2012, 08:26:16 PM »
Ugh.

I hate dealing with stuff like that.  Mainly because of the hassle.  Who needs extra hassles in their life?  You'v now had to deal with their customer service at least 3-4 times.  Yuck.

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Move on to the next cheapest one?  Can you reinstate the State Farm one for now?
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Re: Geico/Travelers rant
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2012, 10:43:46 AM »
Have you checked with regional carriers in your area?  We use a regional insurer that quoted cheaper than all of the national carriers and they did not even inspect our house before insuring it.

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Re: Geico/Travelers rant
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2012, 08:25:34 PM »
Thanks for the comments.  I spoke with State Farm today and they will reinstate my policies.  Once everything is finalized, I'll tell Travelers and GEICO to stuff it.

My agent made a good point today.  She said when you have an insurance company that uses agents, the agent will get these types of notices before you and can run interference.  The agent may be able to fix the problem before a notice of cancellation or something similar ever reaches you.  You don't get that type of benefit with Travelers when there are no agents.

Anyway, I've decided it's worth the extra few hundred dollars to stay with a company that doesn't pull these kind of stunts.  It's worth the extra expense to make sure my largest asset is adequately covered.  Lesson learned.   

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Re: Geico/Travelers rant
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2012, 05:33:04 PM »
We were with GEICO for 42 years - speeding ticket every 5-6 years, no accidents or claims.
Daughter got T-boned 6 yrs. ago in SC, took 3 weeks for agent to show up & get wreck out of our driveway!
House ins. got dropped (Allstate) so we shopped for a bundle.
State Farm was $600 less for more coverage on same cars.
They were $500 less on the home than GEICO.
Geico gave up $55 as incentives (big whoop.) 
$600 per year is a R/T plane ticket!
Never again.

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Re: Geico/Travelers rant
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2012, 05:53:51 PM »
My folks had State Farm for over 50 years.  I have had State Farm for over 30 years.  Never a problem and not worth a few bucks to give up the consistently good service and lack of problems.  You get what you pay for.

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Re: Geico/Travelers rant
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2012, 07:22:37 AM »
From a former insurance agent that did home/auto; many insurance companies are feeling the pain of low % returns on their investments. 

I was speaking with an retired agent earlier this year.  He said when interest rates were 15% years ago, he said companies would insure a dynamite factory, just so they could get the premium and invest it.  Now with interest rates so low, many companies are getting off of exposure.  There are some serious convulsions in the property market in NC.   Many companies are dropping coverage left and right to lower their risks.  Yes, most carriers can cancel you with 30-60 day notice.  All of the carriers are fighting for the cream of the crop in risk - ie some one around 35-40, with great credit score, great driving record, no losses and nice newly built house.

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Re: Geico/Travelers rant
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2012, 08:13:24 AM »
I think I'm lucky to have access to USAA, due to my prior Army Reserve experience.  If you or your parents have military experience, check into it--it used to be just for officers and their immediate families, but about 15 years ago they opened it up to enlisted, and at least at certain points in time to employees of other military-ish government agencies (e.g., FBI, Secret Service, NCIS, OSI, CID). 

They are run like a co-op--profits are paid out to members (customers).  Excellent customer service ratings, and my experience with them has backed that up.  I have my auto with them but they wouldn't insure my 100 yr. old home when I bought it (due to needing a new roof IIRC), and later the quote was really high for some reason, so for the moment my property insurance is with Allstate--come to think of it, I might give USAA a call today to re-bid, they have since sent me mail stating their property insurance rates have dropped in my state.

For those not eligible, I've heard that Amica Mutual operates in a similar profits-paid-to-customers fashion, and gets great customer service marks as well.  Not sure about pricing with them, but over time it may get better as more of the profits are paid back to you--I know with USAA the profits paid via their "Subscriber Savings Accounts" increase over time.

 

Wow, a phone plan for fifteen bucks!