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ca-rn

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gas wall heater smell gas after repairman left- repair cost?
« on: March 24, 2018, 09:25:06 PM »
i called out a hvac repairman- well reviewed on yelp to change out the gas valve on a wall heater.  i had this repair done a few years ago on another heater and all is well.

the repair man had a very hard time removing the gas valve, he had to take out a whole part of the heater including the burner access door with attached main burner and pilot burner assembly and gas valve attached, took it outside and banged on it a bunch of times to release the gas valve. 

he unscrewed and screwed the burner access door at least 3 times and once it was all attached, noticed the manifold was cracked.  at first he said it would be an extra charge but i pointed out it wasn't cracked ( no gas leaking at all before and the pilot would always relight, not happening since the new crack)  before and he had to bang the heck out of the heater outside to change out the gas valve.   

he came back with the part and replaced the manifold, had to unscrew and re screw a couple more times and in the end did not charge me for replacing the manifold. 

i noticed he coated a white sticky coating over every part of the gas valve that attaches to the heater.  what is that and what is its function? is it like plumbers dope for gas?  the other heater that got the same repair has not such white coating.

3 days later, the pilot is out again, i go to relight and can smell gas coming from the pilot tubing.  i also notice there are some scratches along the pilot tubing and the cloth cover over the thermopile is also roughened and torn off in a small area.  i know this is from all the banging he did outside.

i called him today about the gas smell and that its bubbling with soapy spray. he will come monday. 

who should pay?   and what should be expected as a repair?

before he took the whole assembly out and banged away at it, the only issue was the pilot was going out and the solution was not another thermopile ( have already replaced a few).  i actually took the thermopile from the other heater ( worked flawlessly) to this one.  his repair caused other issues. 

i think he should replace the pilot tubing at his cost.  i'm not so sure about the thermopile- the cloth cover is torn revealing the wires inside but i don't know if that affects its function? 

do i need to worry that he covered the gas valve with the white sticky coating?  its been 3 days and its still a wet sticky coating.

what can be wrong with the heater???? it keeps going out even after a new gas valve!

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Re: gas wall heater smell gas after repairman left- repair cost?
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2018, 09:46:43 PM »
I understand it's not your fault, but i wouldn't hire the same guy again. I would get it fixed with another reputable guy, i wouldn't mind if i have to pay it out of pocket.

That current repair person may not have best interest to do the job as he will not get any monetart benefit other than a risk of 1 star on his yelp profile.

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Re: gas wall heater smell gas after repairman left- repair cost?
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2018, 07:18:14 AM »
I had a leak in a wall heater that I wasn't using, so I just had the plumber cap it; when I sell my house, that will boarded up.  I only have a single heater in the main room, and I leave the door open at night for the warm air to circulate.  I bought the home dirt cheap and don't feel like putting the in cash to put in a proper central unit (which would include cooling, as I now have window units), and figure that I'll just sell it cheap and let the seller do what he wants.  Also, maybe there will be a low-income grant for me to do the upgrade.

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Re: gas wall heater smell gas after repairman left- repair cost?
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2018, 10:09:04 AM »
The white coating is most likely anti-seize.  Not to prevent leaking, but to keep the new valve from corroding and getting stuck again.

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Re: gas wall heater smell gas after repairman left- repair cost?
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2018, 10:43:36 AM »
The white coating is most likely anti-seize.  Not to prevent leaking, but to keep the new valve from corroding and getting stuck again.

If you have a plumber that used antiseize instead of approved gas line pipe dope, you've got bigger problems.

They could have cross threaded the gas line and forced the threads through, potentially damaging them. That would cause some problems and leaks. (It sounds like he tried multiple times to seat the pipe into a valve and had problems) The contractor should pay for this fix.


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Re: gas wall heater smell gas after repairman left- repair cost?
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2018, 10:47:34 AM »
The white coating is most likely anti-seize.  Not to prevent leaking, but to keep the new valve from corroding and getting stuck again.

Yeah... um, no.

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Re: gas wall heater smell gas after repairman left- repair cost?
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2018, 02:45:46 PM »
yes, i think he used gas line pipe dope.  googled it and it seems like that is the stuff all over the pipes

gas leaking from pilot tubing- i only noticed 3 days later when i went to relight the pilot.  i could barely smell it but had a positive soapy spray test.  the heater fired up and worked but because of the leaking gas i shut it down. 

can a leak from the pilot tubing just spontaneously happen? i'm afraid he is going try and say "it just happens" to charge for a repair.

reasonable for repairman to not charge for the repair? 


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Re: gas wall heater smell gas after repairman left- repair cost?
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2018, 02:57:26 PM »
Are you sure you're safe? I bet you can call the fire department and they'll send someone out to inspect it for you free.

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Re: gas wall heater smell gas after repairman left- repair cost?
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2018, 02:58:50 PM »
Are you sure you're safe? I bet you can call the fire department and they'll send someone out to inspect it for you free.

yes, i shut the gas valve off, no more leaking gas

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Re: gas wall heater smell gas after repairman left- repair cost?
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2018, 02:03:13 PM »
just wanted to update, he lived up to his yelp reviews.

came in, cut and put a new pilot fitting and tested it- no leaks no charge.

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Re: gas wall heater smell gas after repairman left- repair cost?
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2018, 09:46:25 PM »
Good ending! Glad it all worked out. That's worth a good review.


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