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Frugal people at the Library
« on: September 04, 2014, 06:43:06 PM »
This morning I arrived at the library just as it opened. There were about six of us waiting. Two gentlemen greeted the librarian as she opened the door, went straight to the table where there are newspapers, sat down and immediately started to read the morning newspapers.

Upon inquiry, I learnt that they do this every day. It saves paper, the library is cool in summer and warm in winter (this also reduces their carbon footprint and reduces their own heating and cooling bills), and they get exercise going to the library each day. They also said that they get entertainment (the library runs a number of functions, and serves as a resource centre for the senior high school which is in the same building, so there is always a lot going on). They also advised me that other people do this at different times of the day, so the table is never empty. Truly mustashian!

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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2014, 09:02:19 PM »
The library is one of my best friends. Ours is linked to about 60 branches. You can order from any one of them and have your item delivered to your local branch. Newspapers, internet access, books, DVDs, you name it.

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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2014, 09:34:36 PM »
Oh, so you've met Leo!  He is one of my favorite regulars at work. 

There are also regular computer users - some use the public access computers, some bring their laptops to use the free WiFi. 

The director' garden has been producing an abundance of zucchini, so she put a basket of it out for anyone to help themselves.  In the fall she always has a basket of apples, and the MS and HS kids stop in after school to hang out and snag a snack.

This week we are having a booksale, $2 to fill a bag with donated/weeded books, magazines, videos, puzzles.  It is a fundraiser thru the Friends of the library group, whose funds sponsor community programs.  Locals love to have a place to pass their excess books on to, and love to pick up cheap reads by their favorite authors.  We also use community volunteer labor to setup/takedown - the HS kids need volunteer hours for PIG and National Honors.

I just finished up my Summer Reading Program for ES children; this year we explored a science theme, so we had presenters from the zoo, the science museum, a hawk sanctuary, a science teacher led engineering workshop, storytellers, musicians...

In a few weeks we'll have a workshop on how to get started on Etsy.

Freegal is expanding for our patrons - they can now download 5 songs per week free & legal, AND stream music for three hours per day.  There's also Zinio for emagazines, and overdrive for ebooks and audio books.

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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2014, 09:50:58 PM »
This morning I arrived at the library just as it opened. There were about six of us waiting. Two gentlemen greeted the librarian as she opened the door, went straight to the table where there are newspapers, sat down and immediately started to read the morning newspapers.

Upon inquiry, I learnt that they do this every day. It saves paper, the library is cool in summer and warm in winter (this also reduces their carbon footprint and reduces their own heating and cooling bills), and they get exercise going to the library each day. They also said that they get entertainment (the library runs a number of functions, and serves as a resource centre for the senior high school which is in the same building, so there is always a lot going on). They also advised me that other people do this at different times of the day, so the table is never empty. Truly mustashian!

The public library is one of the best friends a mustachean can have.  My public library system has 130,000 DVDs, for instance. They range from feature films to popular tv shows to documentaries and educational films. I do have a Netflix 1-disc-at-a-time subscription, but I use the Library's collection just as often. Unfortunately I do rack up fines on those dvds' so I have to watch it.

I bring armfuls of books home weekly, too, although I just skim them all, seldom read them through. I am always looking for a good novel but find so few of them these days.

I wouldn't live in a place that didn't have a public library of at least 150,000 items. As it is I live in a city where the library resources are many times richer.

I was shocked to hear that my sister and brother in law live in at suburb of the Twin Cites and do not have a local public library, it closed down. And, they aren't part of a county system. So, if they want to use a library they have to pay an annual fee (although it didn't sound like a lot.) 

This is one of the main reasons I wouldn't move to Mexico, I don't want to be without the civilization of a library.
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2014, 12:02:59 AM »
Ahh the Library. I've been a bibliophile since I was a small child so to me the library is a sacred place. It is a temple where great sages, theologians, philosophers, scientists, writers, poets, engineers, historians, artists, statesmen, generals, even saints, humorists, villains, shamans, and magicians of ages past can speak to us in the here and now. Even the humblest library is a potential treasure trove of spiritual, religious, and economic wealth and the nearest thing to magic I have ever seen.  A state that does not support its own libraries can scarcely be considered, in my opinion, part of the civilized world.  Indeed, the creation and the destruction of a civilized nation's libraries can be considered the bookends marking its ultimate beginning and end.  Now days, a library with Internet access can far exceed its past potential.  It is no great stretch of imagination to see men, women and children reading books or computer sites and wondering what earthshaking knowledge they might exploit.  Likewise, it saddens me to often see homeless people snoozing in the library while keys to comfort, wisdom, and even wealth lie at their fingertips. After all, the Bible was translated at the Library of Alexandria; Karl Marx wrote his books based on research in the British Imperial Library.

Oh yeah, you can get all the back X-Files episodes on DVD at most good libraries.

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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2014, 02:46:15 AM »
Yesterday at our library, 2 of my kids came in to claim their free book that they won in the summer reading club.  Another son won a twenty dollar gift card to a local bookstore earlier in the summer.  Even I won a book in the adult summer reading club and chose a Malcolm Gladwell book to add to our collection.  The summer reading clubbers also received a medal and certificate for their efforts in daily reading all summer long. 

Hidden reward: better readers!

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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2014, 05:48:54 AM »
Multiple comments, presented in a random fashion:

- If you live near a big university, investigate whether you can buy a pass to their library.  I'm not knocking my town's little library at all, but for $10/year and a 30-minute drive, I can have the resources of a full-fledged university library -- each of its 10 main floors is larger than my town's library, and that doesn't include the adjacent addition!  Parking is generally free on weekends (assuming no sports events). 

- Do you know that Ben Franklin invented the library system?  Yeah, the concept is that old. 

- With government cut-backs, our library has been forced to reduce their hours.  They're now open only four days a week, which is a shame.  Our library is almost always relatively busy, so clearly it's a service people want. 

- If you're not a regular library user, do take some time and read your library's webpage.  You might be surprised at the services they offer.  For example, inter-library loan is really cool.  In theory, you could have any book in print delivered to your town's library -- though it might take time. 

- I love when they offer old magazines for a dime (or fill a bag for a dollar).  I often need magazines to be cut up for classroom projects, and this is a great price. 

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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2014, 06:15:02 AM »
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Just be careful that the staunch libertarians on these boards don't notice that we love libraries so much. The ones I know hate my existence when I talk about something I borrowed from the library.

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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2014, 06:22:39 AM »
I have read that older retired people also use the library as a free source of heat as they can go there during the day and switch off their heating at home. It's a very good money saving idea. :)

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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2014, 06:25:49 AM »
Love the library! I take out stacks and stacks of books. Not enough words to convey how much I love the library. One reason I wanted to buy my house was a good library within walking distance.
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2014, 06:38:30 AM »
Our local library is also very busy and inter-library loan can retrieve almost any book within a week.  They always have a crowd, from very young to older.  My wife loves their Kindle book on-line arrangement.  A definite plus and a consideration for any future move.  How are the libraries in Hawaii?

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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2014, 06:45:23 AM »
LibrarIan approves of this thread.

Library administrator RubyBeth also approves. :)

I'm going to put in a plug here for library EVENTS and PROGRAMS at your library. You know, author visits, book discussions, kids events, etc. I'm in charge of programming for my system that has many branch libraries, and we offer thousands of events per year. These range from concerts and art events (learn how to paint, mosaic, etc.) to gaming nights to gardening how-to programs to technology programs. For people looking for entertainment on a budget, it's amazing what can be had. My system offers free tickets to events at local performing arts venues, and other libraries offer discounted or free museum passes. All you have to do? Ask a library staff person what kind of events or access to events they might offer!

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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2014, 06:55:54 AM »

- Do you know that Ben Franklin invented the library system?  Yeah, the concept is that old. 


Really? My hometown had a library in 1608... http://www.heritagecity.org/research-centre/cultural-superlatives/the-norfolk-and-norwich-subscription-library.htm

And I think the concept was really invented by the Romans at the latest.

That aside, I love libraries!

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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2014, 07:11:22 AM »
rubybeth also reminded me that your public (and/or academic) library probably subscribes to a lot of scholarly, peer-reviewed databases. Whenever I do research on a topic I don't know much about, I tend to start at the databases rather than just Googling around since the information I find there is peer reviewed probably more reliable. Although, Google Scholar is also a good option for more digging.

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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2014, 08:31:44 AM »
Happy to pay taxes to support a great library system.  It's one of the must haves when looking for a place to live.  Almost all of my entertainment fare comes from the library.  No cable, no Netflix subscription, nada.  Library, library, library.  Walking over to the library today to pick up the last season of Breaking Bad.  I've watched a season per week over the last couple of months and it's gratifying I was able to catch such a great show through my public library.

I was given a no name POS tablet--my phone is better to use, but the bigger tablet is great for magazines.  So I'm downloading, without limits, a variety of magazines through my library's Zinio's service.  Again, amazing. Great to read National Geographics again. 

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« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2014, 08:37:49 AM »

- Do you know that Ben Franklin invented the library system?  Yeah, the concept is that old. 


Really? My hometown had a library in 1608... http://www.heritagecity.org/research-centre/cultural-superlatives/the-norfolk-and-norwich-subscription-library.htm

And I think the concept was really invented by the Romans at the latest.

That aside, I love libraries!

And who could forget the great library at Alexandria?

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« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2014, 08:39:21 AM »
Love, love, love my public library, and am seriously considering volunteering there.  It is clear from the condition of the shelves that they are in desperate need of a volunteer who is remotely familiar with alphabetizing.  That said, sometimes there are happy surprises hidden with the mis-shelved books.

And I love being able to get all the e-books I could ever want!

I am generally libertarian, but my tax dollars going to fund our public library makes me very happy indeed!  No where else in the community is opportunity really equal.  Knowledge, entertainment, community all under one roof.  Love it!

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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2014, 08:42:14 AM »

- Do you know that Ben Franklin invented the library system?  Yeah, the concept is that old. 


Really? My hometown had a library in 1608... http://www.heritagecity.org/research-centre/cultural-superlatives/the-norfolk-and-norwich-subscription-library.htm

And I think the concept was really invented by the Romans at the latest.

That aside, I love libraries!

And who could forget the great library at Alexandria?

Yeah, maybe you mean in the US, Ben Franklin did some stuff, but definitely didn't originate the idea of libraries:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_libraries_in_North_America
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_library

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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2014, 08:48:24 AM »
LibrarIan approves of this thread.

Just be careful that the staunch libertarians on these boards don't notice that we love libraries so much. The ones I know hate my existence when I talk about something I borrowed from the library.

Libertarian thought and loving librarians (even BEING a librarian!) are not two incompatible ideas. But you are right, "staunch" as in "pure" libertarianism wouldn't have any publicly funded libraries. Still, a subscription library would be an alternative.
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« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2014, 08:58:20 AM »
I can't believe it took me this long...but this thread just inspired me to apply for my library card. There is one about a block away from my house. Online application....DONE!

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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2014, 10:33:23 AM »
My librarians know me by name because I'm always paying off overdue fines.  We joke that I'm funding an expansion wing.  (In all honesty, I really need to set reminders in my phone to return my books. #grownup) :-)

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« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2014, 12:16:21 PM »
Our library sends email reminders 3 days before the book is due. I can renew online. Haven't paid a fine in years. You might look into something like that.

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« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2014, 12:52:35 PM »
I love the library too. Is it rare that we don't go at least once a week or two and it is also rare that we buy a newspaper or read a book. Definitely a great place all around but I love it even more now that I had a toddler. Our library also connects to a massive system that you can order any book, dvd, etc from.  Our library just won an award for best library in Canada and I believe it :)
They always have some fun program going on or and educational session. They have mini theatre in the library as well that is used for shows and speakers. Its great!

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« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2014, 01:29:47 PM »
LibrarIan approves of this thread.

Library administrator RubyBeth also approves. :)

I'm going to put in a plug here for library EVENTS and PROGRAMS at your library. You know, author visits, book discussions, kids events, etc. I'm in charge of programming for my system that has many branch libraries, and we offer thousands of events per year. These range from concerts and art events (learn how to paint, mosaic, etc.) to gaming nights to gardening how-to programs to technology programs. For people looking for entertainment on a budget, it's amazing what can be had. My system offers free tickets to events at local performing arts venues, and other libraries offer discounted or free museum passes. All you have to do? Ask a library staff person what kind of events or access to events they might offer!
I am not a librarian, but I also approve of this thread :). +1 on RubyBeth's suggestions--we LOVE getting free museum passes from our library. Fantastic benefit that many people don't realize they can take advantage of. Our library also has free outdoor tennis courts, which we use occasionally. Good times all around at the library.

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« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2014, 03:00:08 PM »
One of the reasons we bought our house is because it is within bicycle-riding distance of our local library.  I have used that library to get audiobooks to use in the classes I teach and to research various topics of interest.  Unfortunately, our library charges a dollar a day to borrow movies, which is a shame, because I just can't justify that kind of expense when I already get unlimited Netflix streaming for $8.99/month.  I wish I didn't work such a ridiculous number of hours, because I would love to read a lot more.

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« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2014, 03:22:57 PM »
I just got back from the library with a stack of books and educational DVDs for my kids. It's been fabulous to have the extra resources to use for the kids while our provincial government and the teacher's union battle it out in the latest round of strikes.

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« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2014, 03:35:07 PM »
This thread is almost too nerdy for me!

Our library just went through a multi year tear down renovation. The new library is incredible. I am so happy to live in a community that values its library! We can put new movies and TV shows on reserve, ILL is quick being in a college town and near a second university. Having a small child means that we make weekly trips to the library to constantly replenish our supply of reading material.

The library is a huge part of our lives!

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« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2014, 03:40:42 PM »
LibrarIan approves of this thread.

Just be careful that the staunch libertarians on these boards don't notice that we love libraries so much. The ones I know hate my existence when I talk about something I borrowed from the library.

Libertarian thought and loving librarians (even BEING a librarian!) is not completely incompatible. But you are right, "staunch" as in "pure" libertarianism wouldn't have any publicly funded libraries. Still, a subscription library would be an alternative.

As a libertarian, I find public funding of libraries one of the least offensive uses of public funds. 

Though a library for the public could also be created with donated materials and funds. 

This weekend's entertainment from the library:  Season 3 of "Friday Night Lights" and a Dan Brown novel.  Total cost:  $0.  You can't beat that.

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« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2014, 04:15:50 PM »
As a libertarian, I find public funding of libraries one of the least offensive uses of public funds. 

Though a library for the public could also be created with donated materials and funds. 

This weekend's entertainment from the library:  Season 3 of "Friday Night Lights" and a Dan Brown novel.  Total cost:  $0.  You can't beat that.

It's already happening! http://littlefreelibrary.org/  Power to the people! :-)

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« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2014, 04:47:20 PM »
I am massive fan of the library. Up until the start if the year I hadn't been since I was about 17 ( I am 33 now).  Anyway my card still worked, and boy had things changed.

I use to by at at least three magazines a month before I found MMM (home handy man and a couple of gardening ones) that would cost me $25. Now i can download them all to my iPad for free and read them whenever, in fact I just checked and I have downloaded 18 this month on some really interesting topics.

The online service allows me to order any book from all the library's in my hometown and I get an email when it arrives at my local... A 5min walk from work.

People at work think I am crazy for borrowing books... But crazy to pay when they are free.

Really great for kids books and CDs


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« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2014, 05:30:15 PM »
- With government cut-backs, our library has been forced to reduce their hours.  They're now open only four days a week, which is a shame.  Our library is almost always relatively busy, so clearly it's a service people want. 

That is a travesty.  Be sure to vote for (campaign for) any library funding bills!

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« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2014, 05:47:02 PM »
Love our library! But a few years ago we had to fight to save it due to cutbacks. They were considering closing our branch, but it's the only one in the area so a huge fight was put up to make them save it. They finally decided to cut another branch, but one that had 2 locations close together. Thank goodness. But it reminds me that we can't take it for granted and we continually write to our politicians now to let them know what it means to the community. Otherwise, they view it as disposable which is so wrong.

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« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2014, 05:55:07 PM »
I love the library too.  (what good mustachian doesn't?)  :)  My branch is called the Tommy Douglas Branch.  For non-Canadians, he was the fellow who gave us universal healthcare!  Love it!

Plus, I think the library is the only place you can go where you are not expected to buy something. 

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« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2014, 08:28:17 AM »
An awesome public library is on my 'must have' list for potential places to live!   Our library also provides volunteer opportunities (kids & adults literacy tutoring, etc) and free meeting space for social groups (knitting group, chess club, etc) that anyone can join.

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« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2014, 02:32:15 PM »
Maybe you people haven't heard.

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« Reply #35 on: September 08, 2014, 06:54:16 PM »
I have always loved the library.  I often say I got a better education from reading books from the public library than I did from any classroom class I ever took.  Quite honestly, if I bought every single book I've ever read, I would probably be very poor and very much in debt.

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« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2014, 07:43:21 PM »

That Leslie Knowles quote was great. Parks and Rec does running gags about the town library.

The whole business with Ron and Tammy II, the town librarian who is the most feared and powerful person in the city, is hilarious. It pits two of my favorite things, cult Libertarian figure Ron and his hot/wh*re librarian nemesis who he absolutely cannot resist even though she is so baaaaaaad for him! I often watch Ron 'n Tammy clips on Youtube, they just kill me.

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« Reply #37 on: September 08, 2014, 08:00:24 PM »

I just wish they could keep out the smelly people and the mentally ill.  Our libraries are mildly unsavory.

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« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2014, 08:33:17 PM »

I just wish they could keep out the smelly people and the mentally ill.  Our libraries are mildly unsavory.

Why should libraries discriminate on smelliness or mental health? Perhaps these people are reading books on personal hygiene and functioning with mental disorders?

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« Reply #39 on: September 08, 2014, 08:40:11 PM »

I just wish they could keep out the smelly people and the mentally ill.  Our libraries are mildly unsavory.

Why should libraries discriminate on smelliness or mental health? Perhaps these people are reading books on personal hygiene and functioning with mental disorders?

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« Reply #40 on: September 08, 2014, 09:20:23 PM »

I just wish they could keep out the smelly people and the mentally ill.  Our libraries are mildly unsavory.

Why should libraries discriminate on smelliness or mental health? Perhaps these people are reading books on personal hygiene and functioning with mental disorders?

So that the rest of us can enjoy them.  I would not let children alone in some of our public libraries, it is that bad.

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« Reply #41 on: September 08, 2014, 09:36:38 PM »

I just wish they could keep out the smelly people and the mentally ill.  Our libraries are mildly unsavory.

The library in my city has many homeless people. Rather than treat them as a nuisance, our library provides sanctuary, and has developed outreach programs and other services for the homeless.

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Re: Frugal people at the Library
« Reply #42 on: September 08, 2014, 09:36:51 PM »
I have the world's best public library in my 'hood. It's huge (4 stories), beautiful (indoor fountains, trees and surrounded by a small pond, and 4 story tall windows overlooking a huge park which it is in, has a large performing arts theater, huge childrens library, media center (free DVDs and CDs), free computers as well as wi-fi, a little gift shop, a café, an art gallery, exercise classes like yoga as well as other types of classes, tons of comfy chairs and many reading areas thru out, a genealogy center, a magazine and newspaper center with papers and mags from all over the country, and yes, books too! For many years when I was first FIRE'd I used it almost daily for it's free computers (no internet access at home then). I would take an early morning run in the park and then hit the library when it opened to wash up a bit,  rest in their A/C (or heat) by a cool waterfall fountain overlooking the pond, drink the good coffee and eat a croissant from the café, and read or use their free Wi-Fi or computers, borrow some books, DVDs or CD (haven't spend money on any of those things in years - always borrow from the library). I still do that most days even with having home internet. And yes, I personally love seeing the smelly scruffy people come in to relax, read a book and take a load off, get out of the heat or the cold, and get a break from their harsh life outside.
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Re: Frugal people at the Library
« Reply #43 on: September 08, 2014, 09:44:55 PM »

- Do you know that Ben Franklin invented the library system?  Yeah, the concept is that old. 


And I think the concept was really invented by the Romans at the latest.

 
I thought it was the Babylonians or the Egyptians. Didn't they have a world class library in Alexandria circa 4000 BC or something like that? Maybe Ben F invented the Dewey Decimal system :-)!

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Re: Frugal people at the Library
« Reply #44 on: September 08, 2014, 10:08:43 PM »
Maybe Ben F invented the Dewey Decimal system :-)!

Please tell me this is sarcasm in the library thread. ;-)

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Re: Frugal people at the Library
« Reply #45 on: September 08, 2014, 10:32:35 PM »
I love the library system. In sweden all the libraries are interconnected. I live in a small town with a small library but I can order books from all of sweden for free. The librarians are very helpful with finding books for me. We also borrow books for our son (21 months) and going to the library is something we will do often. Do I need to say that I bike there :-)

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Re: Frugal people at the Library
« Reply #46 on: September 08, 2014, 10:38:08 PM »
Maybe Ben F invented the Dewey Decimal system :-)!

Please tell me this is sarcasm in the library thread. ;-)
Oh no...it's true :-)!

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Re: Frugal people at the Library
« Reply #47 on: September 10, 2014, 05:18:08 AM »
LibrarIan approves of this thread.

Just be careful that the staunch libertarians on these boards don't notice that we love libraries so much. The ones I know hate my existence when I talk about something I borrowed from the library.

Libertarian thought and loving librarians (even BEING a librarian!) is not completely incompatible. But you are right, "staunch" as in "pure" libertarianism wouldn't have any publicly funded libraries. Still, a subscription library would be an alternative.

As a libertarian, I find public funding of libraries one of the least offensive uses of public funds. 

Though a library for the public could also be created with donated materials and funds. 

Andrew Carnegie set up over 2,500 libraries out of his own pocket.

...plus Carnegie Hall, Carnegie-Mellon university, et cetera.

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Re: Frugal people at the Library
« Reply #48 on: September 10, 2014, 07:41:58 AM »
Just moved to a funky little town with a very old but active library.  Since it's so old the smell is exactly the same as libraries from my childhood and it transports me back in time.  My kid loves going, thank goodness.

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Re: Frugal people at the Library
« Reply #49 on: September 10, 2014, 07:49:31 AM »
Andrew Carnegie set up over 2,500 libraries out of his own pocket.

...plus Carnegie Hall, Carnegie-Mellon university, et cetera.

... with the explicit rule that the community that received his great assistance would turn around and publicly support the library's maintenance and growth.



I just wish they could keep out the smelly people and the mentally ill.  Our libraries are mildly unsavory.

What would be really great is if our society as a whole put a greater emphasis on helping these people instead of trying our best to pretend they don't exist. There has been much research done on how hospitals, emergency medical teams, mental health institutions, jails, social workers and libraries (yes - libraries) all play a role in dealing with this "problem" (although libraries just found themselves in this circle not by choice). Not to mention the loads of cash we all collectively spend due to our own attempts to ignore them. It would be fiscally responsible (if you like saving money) to fund more programs that assist these people than to pay more over time for the costs of hospital visits, incarceration, visits to clinics and such that these people deal with. If this societal shift occurred, yes, you would probably see fewer people as you describe in your library.
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