For Costco Members, something to try...

[ichangedmyname]

http://www.5dollardinners.com/20-meals-from-costco-for-150-recipes-printable-shopping-lists/

This took a lot of work, I think. Very interesting. It comes down to $1.8/person/meal for a family of 4. Definitely going to give this a try.

[ManyMountains]

1/3 of the cost of food was meat. Way cheaper eating a plant-based diet.

[Khan]

1/3 of the cost of food was meat. Way cheaper eating a plant-based diet.

Thanks.

Om nom nom nom.

[ArcticaMT6]

1/3 of the cost of food was meat. Way cheaper eating a plant-based diet.

Plant based diets are what my food eats.

[captainawesome]

1/3 of the cost of food was meat. Way cheaper eating a plant-based diet.

Yeah, but that doesn't fit everyone's lifestyle.  Me personally, I eat a lot of meat and enjoy it.  But I can understand it being cheaper, considering I would say most of the stuff I get from Costco are protein sources (meat, eggs, dairy)

[hybrid]

1/3 of the cost of food was meat. Way cheaper eating a plant-based diet.

Plant based diets are what my food eats.

Best post of the day!  I laughed hard when I read this....

[prodarwin]

Yeah, but that doesn't fit everyone's lifestyle.  Me personally, I eat a lot of meat and enjoy it.  But I can understand it being cheaper, considering I would say most of the stuff I get from Costco are protein sources (meat, eggs, dairy)

Heh.  I feel like every other time I go in there, I checkout and my car is just 2 gallons of whole milk, 36 eggs, 1 package of chicken breast, 1 package of ground turkey

[Fireman]

1/3 of the cost of food was meat. Way cheaper eating a plant-based diet.

Plant based diets are what my food eats.

+1!

[MrMyMoney]

1/3 of the cost of food was meat. Way cheaper eating a plant-based diet.

Plant-based diets are causing obesity and diabetes, amongts other things. No thanks. Also, I'm a bodybuilder so I need my valuable meat protein.

Nomnomnom! 

[taekvideo]

1/3 of the cost of food was meat. Way cheaper eating a plant-based diet.

Plant-based diets are causing obesity and diabetes, amongts other things. No thanks. Also, I'm a bodybuilder so I need my valuable meat protein.

Nomnomnom!

Vegetarians are at a lower risk for obesity/diabetes/heart disease...etc than omnis.
And you get more protein per dollar from plant based sources (eg beans) than from meat.

[dragoncar]

1/3 of the cost of food was meat. Way cheaper eating a plant-based diet.

Sure, here's your low-cost shopping list:

Big bag of beans.
Big bag of rice.

[prodarwin]

1/3 of the cost of food was meat. Way cheaper eating a plant-based diet.

Sure, here's your low-cost shopping list:

Big bag of beans.
Big bag of rice.

Do you have any more data on this?  I've seen this mentioned on here, but

Google lists "Rice and Beans" as having:

18g F
121g Carbs
21g Protein

for a 461g, 695 Calorie meal.

If you combine them in the perfect ratio, how much more protein are you going to get?  Do some of the 121g of carbs turn to protein?  If so, how much?

[FuckRx]

1/3 of the cost of food was meat. Way cheaper eating a plant-based diet.

animal based diets are the main reasons we doctors have so much business. please hold off on such advice until I get to my FI goal. :)

[Shor]

While Costco is my main source of produce and protein purchases, I also take the chance to grab the 3-4 lb salad/spinach bags. It's a healthy race to finish it before it goes icky!

As always with Costco, not Everything is super-cheap priced per unit. So pull out the calculator before you pull out your wallet!

[jba302]

Plant-based diets are causing obesity and diabetes, amongts other things. No thanks. Also, I'm a bodybuilder so I need my valuable meat protein.

Nomnomnom!

You what the what now? Are you sure it isn't just absurd levels of inactivity and poor dietary habits? Don't get me wrong I consider meat to be 3 of the 4 essential food groups (Red meat, white meat, seafood, and vegetables), but I think this statement might be a little off the mark in terms of causality.

[MrMyMoney]

I'm exactly sure of what I'm talking about. Fruits and vegetables are fine, grains are not. Evolutionary speaking, our bodies aren't meant to eat all these carbs (sugar). Every time I have to help someone lose weight, I put them on a meat+ animal fat diet with very little carbs and they their body fat goes away so fast it's ridiculous.

[prodarwin]

I'm exactly sure of what I'm talking about. Fruits and vegetables are fine, grains are not. Evolutionary speaking, our bodies aren't meant to eat all these carbs (sugar).

I think there is some evidence of that. And its not just from a body weight/fat standpoint.  I recall hearing something recently about how before humans learned to farm they had much better dental health (determined by cavities present in fossils) because there was very little carb or sugar intake.

[ichangedmyname]

1/3 of the cost of food was meat. Way cheaper eating a plant-based diet.

Plant based diets are what my food eats.

+1!

+1 :) Love me some bacon.

[jba302]

I'm exactly sure of what I'm talking about. Fruits and vegetables are fine, grains are not. Evolutionary speaking, our bodies aren't meant to eat all these carbs (sugar). Every time I have to help someone lose weight, I put them on a meat+ animal fat diet with very little carbs and they their body fat goes away so fast it's ridiculous.

I'm going to drop this here instead of responding. Mostly because I believe this is better credentialed than anonymous vs. anonymous discussion and I feel like this will get off the rails fast. #9 relates to you -

http://paleomovement.com/alan-aragon-paleo-critic/

[MrMyMoney]

I'm exactly sure of what I'm talking about. Fruits and vegetables are fine, grains are not. Evolutionary speaking, our bodies aren't meant to eat all these carbs (sugar). Every time I have to help someone lose weight, I put them on a meat+ animal fat diet with very little carbs and they their body fat goes away so fast it's ridiculous.

I'm going to drop this here instead of responding. Mostly because I believe this is better credentialed than anonymous vs. anonymous discussion and I feel like this will get off the rails fast. #9 relates to you -

http://paleomovement.com/alan-aragon-paleo-critic/

Related to no.9 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

I understand my position on nutrition is not popular, but you know what else is not popular and sounds completely insane to most people? Early retirement and savings. It's not because most people don't do it or tell you you're wrong or wasting your life away by removing certain things from your "spending diet" that makes it wrong. Look at the people around you: people are getting fatter and fatter in the same way people save less and less and spend more and more. How many people have or will tell you you should be more "moderate" about your savings strategies? Are they correct, or do you have knowledge they don't have?

A driving point of Alan is that if you like something you should have it (in moderation). My counter-argument is that it's fine to have carbs in moderation, but for me moderation means less than 30-50g/day at most. Some days I go entirely without. The sugar I get comes from fruits for the most part. I guess I'll have a donut or an apple pie once a month, maybe.

I used to be 260lbs, I'm 160 today and I bench 225 and I never touched steroids and I don't plan on using them. To get there I had to throw away my old rulebook on diet and get one that works.

I used to be in debt. I'm debt-free today, and I'll retire in 15 years or less. To allow this, I recently had to throw away my old ways and career and I'm starting my new life/career in 2 months. I have a goal and I'm going to get there, but if I don't do the right things I'm not going to get the results I want.

[eyePod]

Yeah, but that doesn't fit everyone's lifestyle.  Me personally, I eat a lot of meat and enjoy it.  But I can understand it being cheaper, considering I would say most of the stuff I get from Costco are protein sources (meat, eggs, dairy)

Heh.  I feel like every other time I go in there, I checkout and my car is just 2 gallons of whole milk, 36 eggs, 1 package of chicken breast, 1 package of ground turkey

I get looked at weird when I have my 10 dozen eggs coming out of BJs.  I eat 4 eggs every morning.  Please stop judging.

[MrMyMoney]

Yeah, but that doesn't fit everyone's lifestyle.  Me personally, I eat a lot of meat and enjoy it.  But I can understand it being cheaper, considering I would say most of the stuff I get from Costco are protein sources (meat, eggs, dairy)

Heh.  I feel like every other time I go in there, I checkout and my car is just 2 gallons of whole milk, 36 eggs, 1 package of chicken breast, 1 package of ground turkey

I get looked at weird when I have my 10 dozen eggs coming out of BJs.  I eat 4 eggs every morning.  Please stop judging.

I won't judge you man. I have 6-8 eggs every morning and 3-4 chicken breasts/day + milk, whey protein shakes and so on. I'd love steaks other meats, but living in China atm and they're either too expensive or too low quality.

[ichangedmyname]

Bacon and eggs cooked in bacon ***grease***, best breakfast ever.

[Fireman]

Bacon and eggs cooked in bacon eggs, best breakfast ever.

I think you meant bacon and eggs cooked in bacon grease.  Because that is, in fact, the best breakfast ever!

[dragoncar]

Bacon and eggs cooked in bacon eggs, best breakfast ever.

I think you meant bacon and eggs cooked in bacon grease.  Because that is, in fact, the best breakfast ever!

MMM ... Pig eggs

[wtjbatman]

1/3 of the cost of food was meat. Way cheaper eating a plant-based diet.

animal based diets are the main reasons we doctors have so much business. please hold off on such advice until I get to my FI goal. :)

I think it's more McDonald's + Sedentary lifestyle.

Full disclosure: Long MCD :)

[Hamster]

I recall hearing something recently about how before humans learned to farm they had much better dental health (determined by cavities present in fossils) because there was very little carb or sugar intake.

Crappy teeth predate agriculture. Fossils show that pre-agricultural hunter-gatherers also got nasty cavity-ridden teeth. In this case, from acorns and pine nuts, apparently.

[jba302]

Related to no.9 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

I understand my position on nutrition is not popular, but you know what else is not popular and sounds completely insane to most people? Early retirement and savings. It's not because most people don't do it or tell you you're wrong or wasting your life away by removing certain things from your "spending diet" that makes it wrong. Look at the people around you: people are getting fatter and fatter in the same way people save less and less and spend more and more. How many people have or will tell you you should be more "moderate" about your savings strategies? Are they correct, or do you have knowledge they don't have?

A driving point of Alan is that if you like something you should have it (in moderation). My counter-argument is that it's fine to have carbs in moderation, but for me moderation means less than 30-50g/day at most. Some days I go entirely without. The sugar I get comes from fruits for the most part. I guess I'll have a donut or an apple pie once a month, maybe.

I get what you are driving at, and I truly fully agree with it. People eat too much sugar, and a keto-esque diet helps them lose weight for a variety of reasons (straight sugar is not filling above all else). I'm totally on board with this very generalized idea for obese persons and weight loss. I suggest the same for people who ask me how I stay thin (5'11" 200 pounds is apparently thin, but being a lifter helps). It's an easy to adhere to policy that culls the low hanging fruit of too many god damn calories.

However, the idea that a straight vegetarian diet directly leading to obesity, which I felt was implied by your initial point, was not the same point you make here. That's what I was addressing. I have observed the opposite effect - the strict vegetarian/vegans that I know are sickly thin and weak.

Summation of thoughts - I would not point the finger at an "animal based protein" diet based on an obese person plowing through chicken wings at a buffet any more than I would do so on a vegetarian who eats nothing but pasta and soda and defines a workout as "standing up without assistance."

[ArcticaMT6]

Bacon and eggs cooked in bacon eggs, best breakfast ever.

I think you meant bacon and eggs cooked in bacon grease.  Because that is, in fact, the best breakfast ever!

MMM ... Pig eggs

You could do Platypus eggs if you wanted mammal eggs...

[ichangedmyname]

Bacon and eggs cooked in bacon eggs***GREASE***, best breakfast ever.

I think you meant bacon and eggs cooked in bacon grease.  Because that is, in fact, the best breakfast ever!

LOL yeah.

[TheValentines]

Related to no.9 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

I understand my position on nutrition is not popular, but you know what else is not popular and sounds completely insane to most people? Early retirement and savings. It's not because most people don't do it or tell you you're wrong or wasting your life away by removing certain things from your "spending diet" that makes it wrong. Look at the people around you: people are getting fatter and fatter in the same way people save less and less and spend more and more. How many people have or will tell you you should be more "moderate" about your savings strategies? Are they correct, or do you have knowledge they don't have?

A driving point of Alan is that if you like something you should have it (in moderation). My counter-argument is that it's fine to have carbs in moderation, but for me moderation means less than 30-50g/day at most. Some days I go entirely without. The sugar I get comes from fruits for the most part. I guess I'll have a donut or an apple pie once a month, maybe.

I get what you are driving at, and I truly fully agree with it. People eat too much sugar, and a keto-esque diet helps them lose weight for a variety of reasons (straight sugar is not filling above all else). I'm totally on board with this very generalized idea for obese persons and weight loss. I suggest the same for people who ask me how I stay thin (5'11" 200 pounds is apparently thin, but being a lifter helps). It's an easy to adhere to policy that culls the low hanging fruit of too many god damn calories.

However, the idea that a straight vegetarian diet directly leading to obesity, which I felt was implied by your initial point, was not the same point you make here. That's what I was addressing. I have observed the opposite effect - the strict vegetarian/vegans that I know are sickly thin and weak.

Summation of thoughts - I would not point the finger at an "animal based protein" diet based on an obese person plowing through chicken wings at a buffet any more than I would do so on a vegetarian who eats nothing but pasta and soda and defines a workout as "standing up without assistance."

Pasta nor soda is a plant or even comes from a plant. So yes, based on your theory people who only eat pasta and soda like foods will be obese. That isn't a plant based diet., it may be meat free, but not plant based. I have yet to meet someone who is obese from eating too much kale.

[jba302]

I'm glad we are now discussing a grain not being a plant.

[Cromacster]

Pasta nor soda is a plant or even comes from a plant. So yes, based on your theory people who only eat pasta and soda like foods will be obese. That isn't a plant based diet., it may be meat free, but not plant based. I have yet to meet someone who is obese from eating too much kale.

No, but I have met people who can't lift a sack of groceries and is always lethargic because they only eat kale and sprout fermented bread or whatever. 

Granted this doesn't look poorly on a plant based diet, but more so the fact that people are afraid of fat.  On a plant based diet I would need to eat about two avocados a day to maintain my proper fat intake.  I just choose to eat meat for my fat content (along with an avocado every now and then).

[soccerluvof4]

calories in, calories out. Everything in moderation and exercise 3-4 times a week. A little common sense goes along ways too.

[sheepstache]

Personally I prefer eggs fried in steak grease.  I call it the waffle house special.  Cheapest steak you can find because hey, at least you're not eating cereal or some other bullshit breakfast.  Love me some bacon too but the grease is kind of a diluted flavor.

[dragoncar]

I'm glad we are now discussing a grain not being a plant.

And corn.

Admittedly, soda and pasta is not a vegetable based diet.