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Fixed gear or hybrid bike?
« on: September 14, 2015, 07:48:36 AM »
I'm currently car-less and rely on the bus and walking to get around...but for anyone else that lives in Boston, you know how unreliable public transit is! I'm looking into getting a bike to shorten some of my walks.

I've been to a few bike shops that have sales on but I felt like I wasn't getting honest answers to my questions and was just being upsold to a model that I don't need. Are there any fixed gear riders out there that can tell me what their bikes are good for and when you wish you had something with gears? I'm looking at about a $75-100 difference between the two types and I'm wondering if it is worth the extra investment to get a lower-end hybrid.

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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2015, 08:10:19 AM »
Can't comment on fixed gear experience, but I commuted with a hybrid for a couple of years when I was in a more bike friendly city.  I think unless Boston is totally flat and you never plan on carrying anything, gears are going to be pretty much a necessity.  I always thought of fixies as being kind of a hipster fashion statement or tool for certain flatland tricks more than a functional form of transport, maybe someone can correct me?  I think if you're trying to get something to provide regular transport, the extra $75-100 is well worth it to add the ability to climb hills or carry heavy loads easily.  Some shallow hills that normally were quite easy got significantly harder with 30-40lbs of groceries in a backpack.   

FWIW my hybrid is a Giant brand, and was about $500 new from the bike shop.  Still works great.

Edit:  Also of note, even if the city is flat, entrance drives to stores or apartment complexes often have an incline.  The one at my apartment had the key code pad halfway up, and was pretty steep.  Without gears I probably would've had to get off my bike, key in the code, run back to the bike and get a long start to make it up the hill.  Not the worst thing in the world, but for something you do multiple times a day it was worth having gears for that alone.
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2015, 08:45:05 AM »
Yes you need gears. 

I can't believe this is even a question.

My 8 year old is upgrading to a bike with gears for heavens sake.

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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2015, 08:51:12 AM »
Are you asking about a fixed gear bike or a single-speed bike?

A fixed gear bike doesn't have a freewhile mechanism meaning the pedals constantly move when you're "coasting."

A hybrid bike can either be single speed or multiple speeds. Most people prefer multiple speeds to deal with different inclines. If your area is not particularly hilly then single should be fine but you want to make sure the gear ratio on the one speed you have is appropriate.
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2015, 09:40:15 AM »
agreed, a single speed would most likely work great for a short commute without many hills. Some single speeds will also have a flip flop hub that you can switch either gear size or to a fixed wheel. I love my Fixed gear bike, but as you always have to be spinning I could see it not being the best choice for commuting.

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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2015, 09:45:33 AM »
A fixie is for walking with from coffee shop to coffee shop, with occasional two or three block rides to show your hipster friends that you actually know how to ride a bike.

That, or blowing out your knees at an early age.

Your choice.

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Re: Fixed gear or hybrid bike?
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2015, 09:46:47 AM »
Fixed Gear bikes are a waste of the best part of cycling: coasting downhill. Single Speed make a lot of sense if you are mostly riding flat to 3% max grades. Anything 4% and up requires either massive quads or gears. This all assumes you are in decent shape. If you aren't then get gears.

Single speed make a lot of sense as they are cheaper to buy and there are less components to break or need tuning. They are dumb if you have to walk all the steep hills on your commute.

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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2015, 09:56:56 AM »
Single speeds are really low maintenance and they push you out of your comfort zone for times when the gearing isn't quite right. It's good for the body to challenge it. Fixed gear is not my thing but I can see how it would be fun at times. You can get one with a flip flop hub that will allow you to change between fixed and freewheel easily.

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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2015, 10:27:59 AM »
Geared bikes are wonderful inventions.

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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2015, 11:03:56 AM »
I use a single speed as a winter commuter.  Lots of ice, snow and salt making the maintenance of a geared by challenging to say the least.  My "simple single" is perfect for the task.

That being said, when the salt comes off the road, my geared bike comes out of the basement.  It's much better at everything.

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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2015, 12:26:52 PM »
A fixie is for walking with from coffee shop to coffee shop, with occasional two or three block rides to show your hipster friends that you actually know how to ride a bike.

That, or blowing out your knees at an early age.

Your choice.
pretty much...

if you want the simplicity and constant control of all forward and backward movement (and all the limits that brings) then I'd recommend going for a unicycle

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Re: Fixed gear or hybrid bike?
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2015, 12:48:17 PM »
I'm currently car-less and rely on the bus and walking to get around...but for anyone else that lives in Boston, you know how unreliable public transit is! I'm looking into getting a bike to shorten some of my walks.

I've been to a few bike shops that have sales on but I felt like I wasn't getting honest answers to my questions and was just being upsold to a model that I don't need. Are there any fixed gear riders out there that can tell me what their bikes are good for and when you wish you had something with gears? I'm looking at about a $75-100 difference between the two types and I'm wondering if it is worth the extra investment to get a lower-end hybrid.

I have bikes with gears and a single speed (not a fixie, I can still coast).

I got my single speed specifically for commuting. My commute is about 8 miles each way. Slight elevation loss on the way to work, and slight incline on the way back with a more significant climb over the last mile or so. Only a couple stoplights, otherwise uninterrupted trail for the most part.

I got the singlespeed because I wanted a cheap solution that required less maintenance for my daily commute. Fewer parts to worry about, no derailleur, easier cleaning and maintenance. In my opinion it's much simpler for hopping on and commuting daily, and that's what I was looking for.

Variable terrain and speeds are the biggest concern. Not having the ability to switch between gears becomes a major issue when you have to combine uphills with riding on flat ground. Lots of stoplights would also be an issue, because you'd be more often starting from a stop and pushing a big gear for that slow speed. With gears, starting from a stop in a low gear and then increasing gears when you accelerate is easier.

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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2015, 01:25:19 PM »
I used to have a pretty expensive bike with 7 gears.. Even though it was good it was pretty high maintenance and had lots of different parts that needed to be tightened and oiled now and then.

Half a year ago I tried a singlespeed (still coast, but no gears). A decision I have never regretted. I ride around 12 miles everyday and go up some pretty steep hills now and then. Still I feel like I can ride faster on the SS - also up the hills (just don't stop and start on it, keep a decent speed going into it).
It is also lighter and A LOT easier to maintain. And imo it is a much better ride. This my "car":



I keep another older one for winther and snow times though.

And  you definitely have to get used to not having gears.. But I actually prefer not having it - I like riding and trying to time the stop lights and other stuff so I don't have to brake to much.
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2015, 02:28:47 PM »
I am in love with my cheap, no frills single gear bike with thin/road wheels. Then again, I live in London, UK so it's quite flat and weather is fine except for rain and frost a few times in winter. I am faster taking off in lights than those who still fiddle with their gears and peddles and it's really good exercise for your thighs and bum. The thin tyres make me glide, and even though sometimes gobble stones can be difficult to ride on, it's not that often. It's not a fancy bike as I don't want to risk it being stolen, even if it's cheap, which is common. In reference to the hipster comments here, I am a woman, no beard (moustache is getting there though), skinny jeans, no tattoos (yet) and I love my elegantly brewed coffee and my bike, but these days it's more mainstream than hipster! At least the hipsters are mustachian :-)

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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2015, 11:34:34 PM »
My gear levers broke earlier in the year, and the bike shop refused to fix it (they're fucking lame), so I waited until my Dad came to town a month later to fix them. Holy crap, riding a bike with only a single gear for a month was TERRIBLE. Taking off from stop signs/lights in traffic was very slow, and a bit scary. I quite like being able to start in the gear that I want, and take off easily.

That being said... my thighs got huge, and it got easier over time.

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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2015, 11:36:53 PM »
Single speeds are really low maintenance and they push you out of your comfort zone for times when the gearing isn't quite right. It's good for the body to challenge it.

No, they're a great way to blow out your knees.

This shouldn't be a question.  Get a bike with gears.  If it turns out you hate gears, you can always leave a multi-gear bike in one of them, but they exist on the vast, vast majority of bicycles sold for a very good reason: They're incredibly useful!

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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2015, 10:28:50 AM »
id go single speed  before  fixed gear.   I can't complain with my coconino.

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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2015, 10:47:12 AM »
I love riding single speed bikes, rode one to work and back every day (2 miles each way) for a few months before my job moved a lot farther away. Very relaxing and simple method of transportation! Still have the bike and use it around town, just don't ride it to work.

Boston isn't terrible for hills so you're probably fine there, but a SS does limit your max speed in traffic, so if you'll be riding in much mixed traffic at all I'd recommend gears just for keeping the speed differentiation lower. If not, go for the SS.

Fixed gear reduces your level of control over the bike because you can't backpedal at all - there are coping mechanisms, but that's what they are. They're great for riding in velodromes... not so great for streets, despite all the people out there who ride them (some without any actual brakes, because brakes are apparently cheating?).

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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2015, 10:52:39 AM »
Wow, a lot of ignorance spread in this thread. Fixed gear bikes are a lot of fun, and a great way to train. They actually handle better at low speeds than freewheel bikes. I don't get the poster that says you are in less control, as when I ride a fixed gear bike i feel more in control. 

Blowing out your knees comes from backpedaling or skid stopping instead of braking, or pushing too big of a gear.  Get some brakes and don't push a gear that is too big for your fitness level.

Anyone that loves cycling should try riding a fixed gear bike, they are just another extension of cycling.

I suspect a lot of the posters here have never even tried a fixed gear bike, and they just like to bash them because of the supposed "hipster" effect.

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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2015, 11:07:52 AM »
Wow, a lot of ignorance spread in this thread. Fixed gear bikes are a lot of fun, and a great way to train. They actually handle better at low speeds than freewheel bikes. I don't get the poster that says you are in less control, as when I ride a fixed gear bike i feel more in control. 

Blowing out your knees comes from backpedaling or skid stopping instead of braking, or pushing too big of a gear.  Get some brakes and don't push a gear that is too big for your fitness level.

Anyone that loves cycling should try riding a fixed gear bike, they are just another extension of cycling.

I suspect a lot of the posters here have never even tried a fixed gear bike, and they just like to bash them because of the supposed "hipster" effect.

I've tried it and didn't enjoy it nearly as much as everyone said I would - much prefer SS. Maybe that's just the mountain biker in me, I don't like not being able to backpedal and control where my pedals are at all times! I suppose you're right that if you have brakes, don't backpedal brake, and don't push a big gear it's probably fine. However, that doesn't fit the majority of fixies I've seen...

As a cycling advocate, I also dislike fixie "culture" because of the bad vibes it tends to give off to non-bicyclists... we've got enough haters out there already, don't need anyone skid stopping (or worse, not stopping) all over the place and pissing people off...



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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2015, 11:22:20 AM »
I suspect a lot of the posters here have never even tried a fixed gear bike, and they just like to bash them because of the supposed "hipster" effect.

Or live in areas with steep enough hills that involve spinning in the lowest gear range at ~70rpm to maintain a forward speed of 3mph.  If I gear for that hill, I can't go anywhere at any useful speed.  If I gear for the flatlands, I'll be walking the bike up that hill every day.

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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2015, 11:34:54 AM »
I suspect a lot of the posters here have never even tried a fixed gear bike, and they just like to bash them because of the supposed "hipster" effect.

Or live in areas with steep enough hills that involve spinning in the lowest gear range at ~70rpm to maintain a forward speed of 3mph.  If I gear for that hill, I can't go anywhere at any useful speed.  If I gear for the flatlands, I'll be walking the bike up that hill every day.

I ran a FG bike in Seattle just fine. You have to compromise. Learn to spin.

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« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2015, 12:02:14 PM »
Yes.  I'll compromise and pay the tiny weight/complexity penalty for gears.

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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2015, 04:05:18 PM »
A derailer is not that hard to maintain, even in salt country. The main point of failure is the last cable shroud before the rear derailer. Salt water gets in and rusts the cable to the shroud. Put a small needle nozzle on your tire pump (or an air compressor if you have it) and periodically blow the gunk out of the shroud. Then squirt some lightweight silicone lube through, and hit it with air again to spread the lube.

That cable will (almost) never seize up again.

Otherwise you have just as much maintenance on the chain, tires, etc.

I'd personally have a really hard time with a single speed. I will admit I've never tried one, but picking the gear ratio would be hard. Either I'd risk straining my knees (a problem even as it is with all my gears to work with) or I'd be hugely sacrificing top end speed. No thanks.

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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2015, 04:17:20 PM »
Fixed gears (no coasting) can be fun and good training, but I wouldn't suggest them for someone who isn't already pretty experienced. If you get a single-speed (allows coasting), you will probably regret it if you ever want to ride anywhere that has hills. I suggest you get a hybrid that is the right size for you--it will be the most versatile.

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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2015, 12:50:27 AM »
My commuter (or as I call it, my "car") is a fixed-gear Specialized Langster, and I adore it. I ride 6.5km each way on it, every day in every weather, and i have to spend very little time or money maintaining it. My commute includes a 2km, 130m vertical climb, and with appropriate gearing it's not an issue. I have it set up with brakes and basically a road position and have used it for rides up to 120km.

That said, I've been racing bikes for 20 years, inc 5 or so racing singlespeed XC mountainbikes at Elite level - so I'm not your average commuter. I've seen people damage their knees, more from offroad singlespeed than fixies, but always it's the guys who ride macho big gears and don't know how to spin/keep momentum up. I also wouldn't advise it to kids/teenagers, unless they're already pretty well trained and have the musculature to support the loads. But make no mistake, for the right rider fixed/singlespeed is a really great option.

For your average casual rider, a geared hybrid will always be more versatile and easier. If you're only doing short trips in a flat area, and you want to keep hassle and maintenance down, maybe consider a singlespeed. The money you save using a bike over other forms of transport makes a price difference of a C-note or two pretty insignificant, it's money well spent.

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« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2015, 03:14:25 AM »
If you're a true pedalling enthusiast, a fixed gear is a cool adventure. You need to develop the technique though.
If you just want to get places with the least hassle, a single speed or a geared bike is way more practical.

No one is mentioning that for single speed bikes, the choice of gear is important.
You get to pick the size of the rear cog. So consider how fit you are, what hills are on your route etc.
AS you get fitter you can change to different single gear.

When I used to ride a ss mountain bike all winter, I picked a gear that made me pedal a bit too fast on flat ground: it helped stay warm.
But on my commute's only hill, it was a bit too hard--which made me do a bit of muscle work.

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« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2015, 08:20:08 AM »
Fixies are cheap and sexy, like mustachians.  The "hills" in Boston, if I recall correctly, aren't extreme enough to worry about.

The downsides that may be relevant to you would be:
-Fixed gear frames tend to not have mounting points for racks, so limited carrying capacity.  Fine for commuting w/ backpack, bad for groceries.
-" " frames tend to only clear skinny tires, could be problematic in snow

It's a scientific fact that people that can track stand live longer than those who can't, so take that into consideration.

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Re: Fixed gear or hybrid bike?
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2015, 09:12:17 AM »
Fixies are stylish and fun to ride, but for practical use in the city I would opt for a 'Dutch' bike with fenders and more upright position.

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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2015, 01:00:46 AM »
Just get a bike, if you don't like it sell it and get a different one. Every type has pros and cons.  Fall in love with bikes. 10 years from now you'll have 4 or 5 bikes and laugh about how  you tried to save a few hundred bucks and couldn't decide on what kind of bike to get.  Half dozen bikes  are still cheaper than car, gym, gas and insurance.

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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2015, 01:06:46 AM »
Sheldon (who lived in the Boston area) tells you all you need to know about fixed gear:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/fixed.html

I've ridden from New Hampshire (white mountains) back home to Somerville on a fixed gear.  I've ridden from Boston to NYC on fixed.  I ride all over Seattle on a fixed gear when I'm not riding my cargo bike (which has a Nuvinci N360 internal gear hub, because derailleurs are THE WORST).


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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2015, 06:07:02 AM »
The only reason people around here ride a fixed gear is so they can tell other people they ride a fixed gear and appear to be cool. How much maintenance do your geared bikes take? I pretty much never do anything to mine except for the off spray of oil.

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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2015, 07:46:13 AM »
Whoa! I 100% did not realize how the type of bike you chose said something about you! That being said, thank you for all the input guys. I'm considering all of my options, and I know I'm the type of person that only likes to buy just as much bike or car etc that I need. Someone mentioned that in a few years I will have multiple bikes...? I'm hoping that I can choose just one that works well and will get me from point A to B for many years to come. I also have a storage issue, so one is going to be more than enough. Maybe that means that something a little more expensive with gears is going to be my best bet.

I didn't know that the fixie has the potential to put more strain on your knees, even if you ride well. That's very helpful info for me, I have a knee injury I try to be careful around.

Thank you everyone for doing my research for me :) Now I'm going to go try a few and I'll let you know what I pick!

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« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2015, 09:21:47 AM »
Yes you need gears. 

I can't believe this is even a question.

My 8 year old is upgrading to a bike with gears for heavens sake.

Sheldon Brown (RIP) would like to have a word with you...

As have been stated above already, single speed is definitely an option. Don't forget, single speed does not mean single gear ratio. You can always increase the gear ratio as you become more fit. A chain ring/cassette cog cost only a few bucks and is pretty easy to change.

A benefit of single speed is that the chain path is much more direct which transmit more of the power to the ground (less wasted effort).

I have a bike with 24 gears and I only really use 2 of them.


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Re: Fixed gear or hybrid bike?
« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2017, 12:13:37 AM »
Fixed Gear bicycle is a nice  way to get around and get a tremendous work out at the same time. The Fixies, like  Harper Single-Speed model, come with a Flip-Flop Hub that easily allows you to change to Single-Speed, which allows for coasting with out peddling, based off your riding preference. The key thing to consider before purchasing a Fixie for your daily commute is what type of terrain and distance you will be covering on the way to work.

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« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2017, 06:21:59 AM »
In my racing days,fixed gears were a "great" way to teach you how to spin properly and smooth out that pedal stroke. ....shudders

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« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2017, 06:44:10 AM »
I'm currently car-less and rely on the bus and walking to get around...but for anyone else that lives in Boston, you know how unreliable public transit is! I'm looking into getting a bike to shorten some of my walks.

I've been to a few bike shops that have sales on but I felt like I wasn't getting honest answers to my questions and was just being upsold to a model that I don't need. Are there any fixed gear riders out there that can tell me what their bikes are good for and when you wish you had something with gears? I'm looking at about a $75-100 difference between the two types and I'm wondering if it is worth the extra investment to get a lower-end hybrid.

Costco has multigear bikes for ~$200 new.

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« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2017, 08:08:08 AM »
I love my fixie!  I use it for my 10km daily commute on very flat ground and it works really well for me.  As others mentioned, the low maintenance is great and the low cost gives me peace of mind when I leave it locked somewhere slightly shady.  Even though I have a flip-flop hub that includes a free wheel, I ride fixed.  It takes a little while to get used to it, but I find the constant connection with the drive train to work really well in stop-and-go traffic.  I have and use breaks – riding on the streets with a track configuration sounds very unsafe to me.

I would probably go for something with gears if I my commute had more hills or if I was out of shape.  As powskier says, don't over analyze and just start riding.  Both options are good and will give you a ton of fun.

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« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2017, 02:39:34 PM »
In case you are using fixed gear literally, I don't recommend it.  Single speed however, I love.

I have a single speed mountain bike.  I use it on simple dirt trails in the area.  It's a very zen experience.  Its certainly slower, especially if you are on a street on a long slow decline, but its very calming knowing there is literally nothing you have to think about.....

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« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2017, 09:07:58 AM »
Although there have been quite a few replies I'd like to weigh in here since I live on bikes.

On what your bike says about you: That only matters on the internet, in the real world no one gives a shit except people who post on bike forums more than they ride. :D

On Fixies: The guy above who posted about ignorance is 100% spot on. Fixies are fun and good training, they won't blow out your knees if you gear properly and use your brakes, haha! I don't know that I'd use one as my only bike or my first bike, but it's an option. I'd advise SS for that.

On Singlespeed: Great option! And again you don't need to be a monster to ride one. My wife is not a hardcore cyclist but rides an SS 7 miles each way to play volleyball in the park then rides back, and yes there are hills. Start with an easy chainring/cog combo. Stand to climb and learn to rock back and forth with your whole body when climbing. Low maintenance and a more pure riding experience. You've got pedal and brakes, that's it!

On hybrids/gears: Nothing wrong with this either, gears are nice if you're doing extended climbing, want to go faster on flats and so on. I love my geared bike for my work commute. You should learn to basic maintenance since there is a little more to maintain. You might have to tune shifting, you tube is your friend.

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Re: Fixed gear or hybrid bike?
« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2017, 02:42:39 PM »
Hi stants.
I am a Boston bike commuter for over 16 years. I can recommend you check out Bikes not Bombs in JP they have a ton of bikes in the spring, some rebuilt single speeds that are very cool, and they put all new brakes and wheels, just recycle the frame.
Also REI had some good bikes the brand is Novara and it is not bad. They always have a sale in the fall.
If you buy from a bike shop they give you a 30 day tune up , or 60 days something like that because new cables stretch and they re tighten every thing after you ride 200 miles or so .
So if you buy at   dicks sporting goods you miss out on the great maintenance a bike shop can offer. I know I have 9 bikes, including 2 electric.
Let me know if you have any questions. PM me.

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Re: Fixed gear or hybrid bike?
« Reply #41 on: April 03, 2017, 08:56:23 AM »
If salt and dirt and derailleurs keep you awake at night, don't buy a single speed bike - buy one with an internal shifter hub. All the gearing is inside the hub and protected from the elements.

Where I live I wouldn't even make it out of the neighborhood with one gear. Gears are a must in my mind - you might want to take your bike with you out of your town.

I agree with other posters - buy something versatile for your first bike and then when you want something more specific, add another bike.

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Re: Fixed gear or hybrid bike?
« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2017, 10:09:25 AM »
Where I live I wouldn't even make it out of the neighborhood with one gear. Gears are a must in my mind - you might want to take your bike with you out of your town.

You couldn't make it out on 32/20 gearing? Do you live in the himalayas? :D

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Re: Fixed gear or hybrid bike?
« Reply #43 on: April 03, 2017, 11:57:51 PM »
Fixies are for insufferable hipsters. They all disappear when the weather turns. Get a good reliable hybrid, road, or even mountain bike. And get fenders. When it rains you'll be glad you did.

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Re: Fixed gear or hybrid bike?
« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2017, 05:08:04 PM »
Although there have been quite a few replies I'd like to weigh in here since I live on bikes.

On what your bike says about you: That only matters on the internet, in the real world no one gives a shit except people who post on bike forums more than they ride. :D

On Fixies: The guy above who posted about ignorance is 100% spot on. Fixies are fun and good training, they won't blow out your knees if you gear properly and use your brakes, haha! I don't know that I'd use one as my only bike or my first bike, but it's an option. I'd advise SS for that.

On Singlespeed: Great option! And again you don't need to be a monster to ride one. My wife is not a hardcore cyclist but rides an SS 7 miles each way to play volleyball in the park then rides back, and yes there are hills. Start with an easy chainring/cog combo. Stand to climb and learn to rock back and forth with your whole body when climbing. Low maintenance and a more pure riding experience. You've got pedal and brakes, that's it!

On hybrids/gears: Nothing wrong with this either, gears are nice if you're doing extended climbing, want to go faster on flats and so on. I love my geared bike for my work commute. You should learn to basic maintenance since there is a little more to maintain. You might have to tune shifting, you tube is your friend.

This is all spot on.  As a current fixie rider, I wanted to chime in as well.  I used to agree with all the above posters about fixies being stupid hipster bikes not good for anything.  Then I got my 21-speed bike stolen.  I started looking on craigslist for a cheapish touring or road bike replacement.  This being SF, fixies are everywhere and were half the price for a nicer bike in my price range, so I gave it a try, for a few reasons:

1) The aforementioned cost difference
2) I always looked down on them, but had never actually rode one, so it was an opinion of ignorance, so at least if I tried it it could be an informed negative opinion :-)
3) To learn something new.  I love riding a bicycle, but when was the last time you actually had to learn a new cycling skill?  After 30+ years of riding that opportunity doesn't come up often.  The more I thought of it the more this appealed to me.  And it is definitely a new skill and a new challenge.

So to those that say you need multiple gears for a bicycle to be usable: you absolutely do not.  If we can do it in SF, you can do it anywhere.  I wouldn't go on a long-distance tour on it, but for city commuting, perfectly reasonable.  If you don't want to work hard on your bicycle, then get one with gears.  Or an electric assist.  Hills and especially headwinds are definitely harder, as you can't downshift and slow down, but have to maintain your speed to keep a comfortable cadence.

I will say if you're thinking about getting a single-speed, just get a fixie (or flip-flop hub).  Same limitations, but more fun and challenging, imo.  For heavens sake get a real bike with brakes though.  I see idiots around here with no brakes because they want to be 'purists' or 'hardcore' or whatever and only use their legs to stop.  I do get to see and hear some exciting stories of them careening into intersections unable to stop in time, or bailing into a patch of grass.  You can still use your legs to decelerate if your bike has brakes.

Will I get another fixie when this one gets stolen?  Not sure, maybe.  Depends on what I want out of it at the time.  I don't bicycle commute much anymore (due to overly crowded subway to get across the bay not being fun to cram a bicycle on, not because of the riding aspect).

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Re: Fixed gear or hybrid bike?
« Reply #45 on: June 21, 2019, 07:37:13 PM »
You go faster for less effort with a geared bike at the cost of a very slight increase in maintenance.

That's a no-brainer for me.

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Re: Fixed gear or hybrid bike?
« Reply #46 on: June 21, 2019, 10:25:42 PM »
I love my fixie!  I use it for my 10km daily commute on very flat ground and it works really well for me.  As others mentioned, the low maintenance is great and the low cost gives me peace of mind when I leave it locked somewhere slightly shady.  Even though I have a flip-flop hub that includes a free wheel, I ride fixed.  It takes a little while to get used to it, but I find the constant connection with the drive train to work really well in stop-and-go traffic.  I have and use breaks – riding on the streets with a track configuration sounds very unsafe to me.

I would probably go for something with gears if I my commute had more hills or if I was out of shape.  As powskier says, don't over analyze and just start riding.  Both options are good and will give you a ton of fun.
I feel similarly. Nice things about fixed gear:
- Nicer feeling to ride, less noise, less mental distractions thinking about gears. Makes me more keen to cycle places.
- Especially when braking: better feel for what's actually going on.
- Easier to maintain - I wasted a lot of time tuning gear alignment with non-fixed in the past (gear noise really grates me - I've noticed most casual cyclists don't care or notice though).
- Less prone to damage when someone parks their bike on top of yours.

For a mostly flat location, they're perfect, and I'm pretty sure I travel faster now with a fixed gear. For hilly locations - trickier, but I did survive travelling around San Francisco with a fixed gear (I stopped cycling there for other reasons - the roads in SF are in a bad condition, and the drivers dangerous). In my current town, most of my cycling is flat but (A) I live up a hill which is slightly tough but doable (good exercise), and there are some hills if I go for a fun ride along the lake (also doable, good exercise, and not as steep as the hill I live on).

Like most other people are already saying: do installl brakes. I use mine (well, the front one only) quite a bit because of hills - there's just no point in straining my legs to go down hills at a normal speed. Back brake is useless but legally required where I live and I guess it works as a backup...

It took me about a week to get used to the fact that I can't stop pedalling on a fixed gear - it's not a huge transition. Since then, cycling bikes with a freewheel just feels terrible - as if I have very little connection the bike and road.

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Re: Fixed gear or hybrid bike?
« Reply #47 on: June 21, 2019, 11:04:49 PM »
I rode a Fixie in NYC to commute to work until it was stolen. Tons of fun and fast! I do recommend a flip flop hub and brakes. I rear ended a car once, he swerved for a parking spot, I was going to fast to stop or get around him. Hills... you get used to it.

Next bike I buy will be a hard tail. Fixie was fun and all, but I do love jumping down stairs and up and down curbs and such. Need something that can commute, but also hit single track or a bike park occasionally.

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Re: Fixed gear or hybrid bike?
« Reply #48 on: June 22, 2019, 06:45:23 AM »
Ugh, I'm way too old and injured for a single speed, and my doctor would slap me upside the head if I bought a fixie.

Gears are glorious, wonderful inventions.

Enjoy whatever bike you get and don't overthink it. Try some bikes, buy what feels right.

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Re: Fixed gear or hybrid bike?
« Reply #49 on: June 22, 2019, 08:39:25 AM »
Ugh, I'm way too old and injured for a single speed, and my doctor would slap me upside the head if I bought a fixie.
Why and why?