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Count of San Francisco

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First Post - Serious Career Conundrum
« on: June 06, 2017, 10:11:52 AM »
Hello folks!  We are a DINK couple, 35 and 36.

I am at a serious crossroads with my job/career and really don't know what to do.  I have been at my current job about 5 years, I work for a nonprofit.  I will admit that I made the mistake of treating this job in too much of a "corporate" manner.  I worked quite hard (frequent 50-60 hour weeks and weekend work) and constantly looked for and suggested ways to save money for the organization.  I thought these things would "reward" me, but it's taken me almost 5 years to realize it's almost the opposite.  I got 1 promotion with a very modest pay raise, and that was only because my supervisor left, rather than anything I did.  Other than that, it's been paltry 2% type raises in the years they've given them.  I've realized now that I've topped out here, there's no where to advance.  The "corporate" things I've been doing are not rewarded.  Rather the culture here is to just put your 40 hours in, and just chill.  They don't care if you are saving them money, they have an annual budget and they try their hardest to spend it all and that's that.  What's maddening is instead of rewarding high performers (such as myself and some others) with more pay, they'd rather take the money and just hire more people.  Seems really inefficient, but it is what it is.

Another issue with this position is I'm not learning any transferrable skills. I do mundane work on proprietary software.  As such I'm quite valuable to this employer in this position, but basically useless to any other position in this organization AND also of course for basically any other job.  I'd have to re-train, go back to school, or take a very entry level type position if I want to leave.  Again, this is my fault for not realizing these things earlier. I was hoping I'd have a brighter future and could continue growing at my current employer, but realized too late that's not happening.

Now, here are the benefits of my position.  First, literal benefits.  I get generous 401k match, good health care, free gym, etc.  As mentioned above, 40 hour weeks are considered the norm.  I currently have the option to telecommute 2 days a week, thought I don't do it because I live very close to work.  And my salary, while low in comparison to most here in the SF Bay Area, is probably "fair" for a nonprofit and the work I do.

Our financial position/goal is this.  We want to hit $1 million investable assets by age 40.  On pace to do this with our current savings rate added to what we have so far.  At that point I want to consider FIRE, while my wife insists she wants to keep working (she's ok with me FIRE'ing).  So that $1 million is enough for us to do a lean FIRE in a cheaper COL if my wife changes her mind, and more than enough for just me to do FIRE if we want to continue living here in the Bay Area, since my wife's salary alone covers our expenses. 

So the conundrum is this.  Despite the positives of my job, I hate that I am not really learning anything new and not really progressing.  But at the same time, if I can just make it 5 more years and neither my wife nor I lose our jobs, I hit my "number".  Of course, if I lost my job for some reason, I'm in a bad position due to the lack of transferrable skills. And there's a part of me that's not sure about FIRE'ing at 40. It sounds nice, but I might want to continue working and pursuing some more meaningful work.

Anyways, any suggestions/advice would be terrific to hear.  Thank you.

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Re: First Post - Serious Career Conundrum
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2017, 10:29:59 AM »
Sounds like an easy choice to me.

Keep the job with the fair pay and good benefits and scale back your working hours to the expected 40/wk.

Use the extra time to find a side gig to speed up the savings.

If you're only 4-5 years from your FIRE finish line, why rock the boat now?

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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2017, 10:53:56 AM »
Sounds like an easy choice to me.

Keep the job with the fair pay and good benefits and scale back your working hours to the expected 40/wk.

Use the extra time to find a side gig to speed up the savings.

If you're only 4-5 years from your FIRE finish line, why rock the boat now?

I agree with this. Stop working so hard. Use that time to start building skills if you want to switch jobs or make a career change. Heck, you could even go back to school or something. Worst case scenario, you are FIRE in 5 years.

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Re: First Post - Serious Career Conundrum
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2017, 11:37:42 AM »
You have my dream job, imo. But! 5 years is a long time to be miserable. I suggest since you are already a software engineer(?) you can do a part time coding bootcamp to retrain in your free time.

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Re: First Post - Serious Career Conundrum
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2017, 12:03:33 PM »
5 years is a long time to be miserable.
This. I know what it's like to be miserable in a job. As others have mentioned, I wonder if there's anyway a cutback in hours/side gig could make you happier while keeping you moving toward that number. I guess I'd be a little nervous about the potential major expense of new training/getting a new job. Sometimes finding a new job isn't as easy as you think it can be. It really depends on whether you think there's any set of circumstances (slacking, side gig, focusing on other things outside of work, etc.) that could improve your quality of life for those last years. I have to say I'd be tempted to try and find something that would expedite my progress toward my FIRE number, or even see if I could make any adjustments that would lower my FIRE number a little bit, or maybe even a combo of both, which could shave significant time off the remaining years.

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Re: First Post - Serious Career Conundrum
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2017, 12:24:54 PM »
Well if the job is truly making him miserable then yeah, 4-5 years is a long time. I didn't get "miserable" from the post though. Bored and frustrated, yeah.

It sounds like he can do the job on autopilot and can even do 2days from home per week. If it were me I'd skate by on the minimum required effort and find something else to keep me interested and/or earn more money. But that's just me.

Count of San Francisco

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Re: First Post - Serious Career Conundrum
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2017, 12:51:30 PM »
You have my dream job, imo. But! 5 years is a long time to be miserable. I suggest since you are already a software engineer(?) you can do a part time coding bootcamp to retrain in your free time.

Haha, nope not a software engineer.  If I was I don't think I'd have the same concerns as they are in heavy demand around here with very good incomes. 

Incidentally though, I am leaning towards some of the other suggestions here, to keep my job and look for hobbies/side gigs.  A hobby of mine lately has been to learn to code.  Not sure how realistic that is with my age, but I'm hoping I might be able to get good enough to land some contract/PT gigs or maybe write some apps for money?  But so far it's just a hobby.

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Re: First Post - Serious Career Conundrum
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2017, 01:34:17 PM »
Sounds like an easy choice to me.

Keep the job with the fair pay and good benefits and scale back your working hours to the expected 40/wk.

Use the extra time to find a side gig to speed up the savings.

If you're only 4-5 years from your FIRE finish line, why rock the boat now?

I also agree with this. Also, take the two work-from-home days. If you get everything done in the other 24 work hours, use this time to learn new skills.

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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2017, 05:12:56 PM »
Good suggestions already about learning new skills or taking on some side jobs, but also it never hurts and costs nothing to look for a "better" job while you're already employed. I put better in quotes because I agree with others that a 40-hour, decent-paying, low-stress job is just about as good as it gets, especially when you're close to being able to retire! But who knows, you might land something even better. Or, you may discover that there really is no better alternative out there without enhancing your skills/expertise, and that would be valuable information too.

 

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