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Frugal In Virginia

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Estimated SS Retirement Benifits
« on: March 02, 2014, 06:40:34 AM »
I'd like to get an estimate of my Social Security Retirement benefits if I retire early but don't claim benefits until age 66 or 70 (or whenever I decide). The Social Security Web site gives estimates based on the assumption that you will work until your retirement age. Can someone point me to a site or formula that will give me this estimate based on my earnings history to date?

Jags4186

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Re: Estimated SS Retirement Benifits
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2014, 07:25:30 AM »
SS is calculated based on total wages earned in your most productive 30 years of work. If you plan to FIRE early expect to not get much.  For example if you only work from ages 22-40, you'll get 12 years of 0 earnings thrown into your SS calculation.

Here is how you can calculate what you'd receive in retirement.

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10070.pdf

Frugal In Virginia

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Re: Estimated SS Retirement Benifits
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2014, 07:59:00 AM »
After posting I did some more googling and found this site

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/retire2/AnypiaApplet.html

Enter your earnings and estimates in out years and the date you expect to start receiving benefits. This is what I was looking for.

I'm 57 so beyond what most here consider early retirement but am thinking of pulling the trigger within the next year and just want to to estimate all income streams going forward.

Thanks.

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Re: Estimated SS Retirement Benifits
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2014, 12:00:02 PM »
Note: Consider everything as 2014 dollars.

My wife and I are almost the same age, but she stopped working ~9 years ago. Unless she goes back to work after the kids are all in school, her personal SS income will be pretty low: ~$650 in todays dollars at age 62. Mine would be ~$1,500. If I wait until age 70, it rises to ~$2,600.

So, what if my wife takes her personal benefit at 62, and I take a spousal benefit while I let my own SS keep growing until 70? At that point, we swap over to my benefits

From 62-> 70, we would be getting $975 a month.

At age 70, it would change to ~$3,800 due to a family cap.

Is this doable under the current SS system?

Yes, as we get closer, we would look at how the numbers would change at various points. For now, just consider this extreme example.

My pension does NOT have a cost of living adjustment*. Once I retire, it doesn't change. It also vanishes when I die, unless I take a lower payout. So, I'm looking at this to "ladder" Social Security as an inflation adjustment.

So, I will be able to pull my pension in 16 years at age 56, roughly $3,000/month.
At 62, it rises to roughly $4,000 with the first SS bump.
At 70, it rises to roughly $6,800 with the second SS bump.

Thoughts? Social Security experts?

*unless there is a surplus in the pension fund. Currently there is a moderate deficit, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. If nothing changes, it is projected to go empty in ~60 years when I am 100 years old. Inflation will have eaten away most of the usefulness anyway. Instead of taking the lower pension payout to have it continue after my death, it will probably be cheaper to get term life insurance. Again, something to run through as this gets closer.

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Re: Estimated SS Retirement Benifits
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2014, 08:41:43 AM »
Are you and your wife the same age?

You can't collect under her and reject your own unless you are over age 66.  So depending of if you are the same age, older, or younger - that factors in if you can use the plan you set out.  If when she is 62, you are under 66, you won't be able to do it. 

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Re: Estimated SS Retirement Benifits
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2014, 09:50:40 AM »
TomTX - Can you provide more details about your situation?  How close in age are you and your wife (as giggles asked)?  How did you come up with a family cap of $3800?  Is there anyone besides you and your wife that will be claiming on your record?