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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2450 on: September 08, 2018, 04:29:31 AM »
With no job lined up but not coping with the ridiculous demands of the corporate law gig, I walked into HR of my corporate law job and gave my 4 weeks notice. Instead of accepting my notice, they offered me a 6-month secondment at a community organisation which has great hours, low stress and the same corporate pay. I accepted the secondment. I've used my secondment time to search for a job, and I have just been offered my dream government job = great hours with good pay, job security AND in an area of law that I love.

If I had to secure another job before quitting, I wouldn't have been able to take up the secondment and I wouldn't have looked for and secured the government position. Of course I would not advocate quitting your job before having another job lined up, but I had a 6 month emergency fund and a month of leave saved up that would be paid out. Further, because I save over half of my income each month, the month leave would pay for more than 2 months of my living expenses...which means that I had over 8 months to find another job.

Even better? The position doesn't start for 2 months after my secondment finishes so I'm going to take a 2 month holiday over summer. I already have plans to go camping for a week, to go hiking in New Zealand, and I'm going to learn how to surf :)

I can take this 2 month holiday because of my emergency fund and month of leave...otherwise I would have to face returning to the corporate office to make ends meet. In fact, I won't even have to touch the emergency fund and I'll just use my month of leave payout :)

Not sure if this is "EPIC" and I'm nowhere near FIRE, but there's no way this would have happened if I wasn't financially prepared and frugal!
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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2451 on: September 08, 2018, 04:35:45 AM »
Nice story @EricL !  I did something similar with some of my textbooks after law school, but I didn't dress up or visit the grave afterward.  :)


Absolutely brilliant @aGracefulStomp !  So happy for you!

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2452 on: September 08, 2018, 06:41:34 AM »
My story that happened years ago, not with FU money but with a FU budget.

I had been working at a rural hospital an hour and half away from home and was completely miserable.  The hours were okay, basically 4 days a week, being on call 2 of those nights, I just stayed there at the hospital on those nights, so I drove round trip just twice a week.  The pay was good, the job itself was good.  The boss was not.  My boss was supervisor of the department, and being a small rural hospital, was my only co-worker in the department.  Basically we both covered our department. 

This woman was the type that you had to wait to see what mood she was in to know what kind of day you were having.  Mercurial moods, and extreme self-absorbed.  Not one person mattered on this earth more than she did.  Walk on egg shells.  You get the picture.  She also gave her management jobs to me, passing them off as her own to the CEO.  I was completely and utterly miserable and thought I had to put up with it.  I mean, we had bills to pay, right?  About that time I really got in to Dave Ramsey, and was on fire to get out of debt.  My job had a good salary, just thought I would put up with what I had to to get out of debt so I could have FU money and leave that place. 

Well, things don't always work as you plan.  It was affecting my health, losing weight, stomach pains, and all for what?  Once I started working on my budget I started realizing what my actual costs were with keeping that job, and what I was earning after it.  The job didn't sound worth it.  Got really motivated and started really looking into how I can reduce the budget more and more.  And the more I was seeing I really didn't have to stay at this place, the less able I was to handle working for this particular person.  Actually, there was a string of employees that had left before me, and I had heard from other workers that the director wasn't sure why this was happening.  Once I figured out that I really didn't need to stay there, the fire was lit. 

I walked out on a day I literally could not take it anymore.  Boss left for lunch, I wrote up a huge letter to the director detailing why I was leaving, the toxic environment, the work being passed on to others, put the letter under his door, put my badge and key on the desk, and left 2 minutes before she was due to return from lunch.  Hopped in the car and called my (late) husband to tell him and his immediate response was "Woohooo!!!!!". 

Not only were we okay on one income because of the FU budget, but we thrived!  While at home for the next year and doing things at the house to save money and putting every extra penny on debt, we were able to get rid of over $30k of debt, on one income.  I went back to work somewhere else after that year closer and for better pay and we managed to get rid of $26k more debt in 6 more months, debt free baby.  This was over 10 years ago.

Things have changed since, but I still work towards always maintaining and FU budget, because no job is worth the amount of shit some bosses put on a person.  I try to live like a single minimum wage job can still pay the bills, everything else is gravy.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2453 on: September 08, 2018, 09:12:27 AM »
Yessss!!!  Truly epic and a classic entry for this thread. 

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2454 on: September 08, 2018, 09:29:59 AM »
I have been FIRE for 3 years from teaching.

2 weeks ago, my former school called. They needed a long term sub for 3 weeks. It was my old position. I didn't really "want" to, but I did leave on great terms and still wish the school and program well. I negotiated what I believed to be a fair rate (close to full day of sub pay for 60% position) for my specialized experience (Computer Science). I bet I could have gotten a lot more, but I really didn't need the money. I even negotiated that the full amount be deposited in my 403b, so as to not count as income this year. And no scheduled meetings, of course :)

On the day I go in to accept, before I got to the district office, there were rumors that the position would be for more than 3 weeks. 6-8 weeks in fact. I told the HR director that I was only able to commit to the agreed 3 weeks, and we will see about the rest. He was fine with that. 5 minutes into our meeting, the HR director offered me a full time position whenever I wanted one. I laughed, and thanked him for the offer.

I was told that in the staff meeting when it was announced I was returning there was applause. It made my feel out of this world to think I was regarded like that. I wasn't there,because no meetings.

Got called in Thursday. Turns out my replacement had a heart attack, a double bypass, and is out a minimum of 3 months. Way more than I bargained for. I told them yesterday I will be there the 3 weeks I agreed to, but not more. If it was going to be 6 weeks, I would have been tempted. Had I not FIRED it very well could have been me. He is 4 years younger than me.

It has been a fantastic week of fond memories seeing former colleagues. When I left 3 years ago, it was the last day of the year that I decide not to return. As a result, I was not really able to say goodbye to very many people back then. It was great to be able to get back to say hello (and goodbye).

Seeing the program, however, was very difficult. Many courses were cut, and my replacement has been struggling. It took me less than 1 day to see I COULD save the program, but I really just have NO desire to do so. I gave my replacement some ideas, but he was not really that interested. One of the main reasons I will not extend my term. You can't save something that doesn't want saving.


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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2455 on: September 08, 2018, 12:50:43 PM »
Actually, there was a string of employees that had left before me, and I had heard from other workers that the director wasn't sure why this was happening.  Once I figured out that I really didn't need to stay there, the fire was lit. 

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I wrote up a huge letter to the director detailing why I was leaving, the toxic environment, the work being passed on to others, put the letter under his door, put my badge and key on the desk, and left 2 minutes before she was due to return from lunch.

Great story, but I want to know what happened to the horrible manager.  If there was a string of employees who had left, the director didn't know why, but when you left you wrote the director a note describing the work environment, did the director take action?  You can't leave that thread hanging!

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2456 on: September 09, 2018, 12:09:47 AM »
Actually, there was a string of employees that had left before me, and I had heard from other workers that the director wasn't sure why this was happening.  Once I figured out that I really didn't need to stay there, the fire was lit. 

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I wrote up a huge letter to the director detailing why I was leaving, the toxic environment, the work being passed on to others, put the letter under his door, put my badge and key on the desk, and left 2 minutes before she was due to return from lunch.

Great story, but I want to know what happened to the horrible manager.  If there was a string of employees who had left, the director didn't know why, but when you left you wrote the director a note describing the work environment, did the director take action?  You can't leave that thread hanging!
I want to know, too, so here's a bat signal to @Schmidty. Don't keep us hanging!
« Last Edit: September 10, 2018, 08:51:24 AM by Dicey »

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2457 on: September 10, 2018, 08:48:02 AM »
"I also took two summer classes so I could graduate on time the next May, classes were from about 8:00-12:00. Other than the job inherently sucking but otherwise paying ok, they would change the schedule constantly, and you had no input on your hours. Lot of work this month? The sched is now 6-6. They would tell us this on Friday, for the next Monday. Also on Fridays they would tell us whether we had to work Saturday. Impossible to make any weekend plans for this reason. I would constantly fall asleep in class in the mornings. The profs I had that summer must have known (small classes) but gave me good grades anyway. I was seriously afraid of falling asleep driving home after work. I constantly felt s***-faced drunk, kinda like a zombie.

I did the same thing for part of my college career. Multiple jobs, third shift, that shit-faced zombie, feeling your described during morning classes. You are so spot on with so many parts of the story. Thanks for the memories! Tough to listen to someone's job complaints when you know their situation could be so, so much worse. And we (wife and I) sure do appreciate where we are in life now compared to back then. Everyone needs to work a few really lousy jobs along the way.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2458 on: September 11, 2018, 10:35:27 AM »
Actually, there was a string of employees that had left before me, and I had heard from other workers that the director wasn't sure why this was happening.  Once I figured out that I really didn't need to stay there, the fire was lit. 

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I wrote up a huge letter to the director detailing why I was leaving, the toxic environment, the work being passed on to others, put the letter under his door, put my badge and key on the desk, and left 2 minutes before she was due to return from lunch.

Great story, but I want to know what happened to the horrible manager.  If there was a string of employees who had left, the director didn't know why, but when you left you wrote the director a note describing the work environment, did the director take action?  You can't leave that thread hanging!
I want to know, too, so here's a bat signal to @Schmidty. Don't keep us hanging!

Sorry to leave y'all hanging.  She showed up, naturally, at the job I was started with after my year off work.  AWWWKWARD.  She had already given notice there and it was her last week, we never spoke.  She was off to another state, so am unsure of if she repeated her antics at other places.  While questioning delicately at my new place how I was regarded after leaving like I did my former job, was told by more than one person that not one person held it against me, as "every one knows what she is like" having worked with her themselves.  Last I heard she was job-hopping places along with her husband-hopping (she was on #12 when I worked with her, am not even kidding). 

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2459 on: September 11, 2018, 11:14:58 AM »
... Last I heard she was job-hopping places along with her husband-hopping (she was on #12 when I worked with her, am not even kidding).

#12 husband?!?  I can see job #12 but after a certain number wouldn't you give up on being married?

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« Reply #2460 on: September 12, 2018, 08:27:41 AM »
... Last I heard she was job-hopping places along with her husband-hopping (she was on #12 when I worked with her, am not even kidding).

#12 husband?!?  I can see job #12 but after a certain number wouldn't you give up on being married?

You would think, huh?

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« Reply #2461 on: September 12, 2018, 08:39:17 AM »
Just had an FU-money experience this morning!

Backstory: I work at a Mega-Corp, tens of thousands of employees, facilities all over the world, etc. There's a global project to remediate a number of our products, including some at my site. I've been involved in one specific (and specialized) part of the project since January. Another part of the project requires a lead at each site, someone who will organize the activities to be done, people needed, etc. A Project Manager-type role. I am not a Project Manager.

But you know where this is going. This past spring when the division said, "Who's your site lead?" the managers got together, hemmed and hawed, and all said, "My people are Too Busy, but Maenad is already involved, have her do it." My manager agreed and gave the assignment to me.

Over the past 6 months or so it's become brutally clear that I do not have the skills needed for this role. At all. Hell, I don't even know what I don't know. It's to the point that if I continue, I could actually damage my professional reputation by taking on something I'm unprepared for.

So this morning I went to my boss and told him I'm refusing this role and why. And that I understand that this can have negative ramifications on my job, but the impact to my career otherwise would be worse. I really, really didn't want to have that conversation, but the managers of the areas that should be doing this are thinking that if they just say No long enough, I'll cave, and I needed to make it clear to my boss that that isn't an option.

It was a really uncomfortable conversation, but it felt so good to know that I didn't have to hurt my career* just to save my job. And as it turns out, my boss didn't see this as refusing a direct order at all, so he's OK with me saying no.

*Currently projected to last only another 1.5 years, but still.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2462 on: September 20, 2018, 01:18:29 PM »
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I don't have much sympathy for those with huge 6-figure school loan debt because I assume there's no way they were working as much as possible to help pay for school.

That was a good story.
Yes, six fig loans are ridiculous.

But what you did was dangerous.  I don't consider working and going to school until you nod off to be at all safe.  Now, I worked PT in college and studied my ass off (4 hours of sleep a night, whee!) and fell asleep in class too - but at least I didn't own a car and only walked across campus.  I wasn't going to accidentally kill someone doing that.

I wouldn't recommend anyone work themselves to exhaustion like that.

DW worked 3 part time jobs in college, while she took extra classes to graduate in 3 years.  4am at the Y, morning classes, tutor midday, afternoon classes, work for the newspaper in the evenings, homework until the 4am shift started. Sleep was weekends and naps.  She graduated debt free, but it probably wasn't the wisest.


Anyway, she always had cash, and did have an epic FU story

One summer she was waitressing for a new local Mexican restaurant (she is very white, that'll be relevant).  Owners daughters ran the place and were incompetent pieces of work.  She enjoyed the job most of the summer and got along with her co-workers (many of whom were Mexican), a story of even a crap job can be fun with the right people.

One day the managers told her it would be her last week, there weren't enough hours to go around for the wait staff.  She was only there for the summer, which was ending in a few weeks anyway, so that kinda sucks, but whatever, not a huge deal. 

Her last day she shows up, and they introduce her to a new (Mexican) waitress, and ask her if she can train her replacement. 

DW says "dafuq, i thought there wasn't enough work"
Managers say "well... Also... Actually... You're not exactly authentic enough" (that's an actual quote)

So no, she did not train her "more authentic" replacement, she dropped her apron on the cash register and walked out

A week later the last white waiter was gone too


Unfortunately she was too upset to enjoy her FU, but we give the place the middle finger when we drive by

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2463 on: September 20, 2018, 02:48:42 PM »
Her last day she shows up, and they introduce her to a new (Mexican) waitress, and ask her if she can train her replacement. 

DW says "dafuq, i thought there wasn't enough work"
Managers say "well... Also... Actually... You're not exactly authentic enough" (that's an actual quote)
Wow.  At least they had the courage to state the reason.

I dunno about the rest of you, but the skin color and facial features of my server are about the last thing I care about when I go out to eat.  What type of person cares whether their server's skin matches that of the people who live in the country where the food originated?

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« Reply #2464 on: September 20, 2018, 04:05:06 PM »
Not sure if "courage" is correct, or just astonishment that at the racism is called out.

I had a housemate who was very blond, and worked at an East Indian restaurant. I thought it was pretty cool.

I'm more concerned that the restaurant Clientele matches the restaurants ethnicity, but only in locales with enough appropriate persons of that ethnicity.  However, sometimes middle of nowhere has the most awesome ethnic food, with ALL the local ethnics working at that restaurant.

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« Reply #2465 on: September 20, 2018, 07:53:12 PM »
Not sure if "courage" is correct, or just astonishment that at the racism is called out.

I had a housemate who was very blond, and worked at an East Indian restaurant. I thought it was pretty cool.

I'm more concerned that the restaurant Clientele matches the restaurants ethnicity, but only in locales with enough appropriate persons of that ethnicity.  However, sometimes middle of nowhere has the most awesome ethnic food, with ALL the local ethnics working at that restaurant.

I'm confused. Why does it matter whether the clientele matches the restaurant's ethnicity? If I'm white and want to eat at an Asian restaurant, or if I'm Asian and feel like Italian food, why does it matter whether I'll "match" the restaurant's food, regardless of how many "appropriate persons of that ethnicity" reside at that particular location? I think I'm misunderstanding something here.

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« Reply #2466 on: September 20, 2018, 08:13:04 PM »
If you go  to a chinese place in chinatown and everyone there is white, you're probably in some americanized joint like the mandarin that sells chicken balls and other deep fried barely-chinese knockoffs.  If most of the customers are chinese, and the menu is mostly in chinese, and there aren't any forks on the table (only chopsticks) you've probably found a place that's authentic, and good enough that the people most experienced in the cuisine think it's good.

Of course, you might want chicken balls, so it depends what you're after.

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« Reply #2467 on: September 20, 2018, 08:13:35 PM »
Not sure if "courage" is correct, or just astonishment that at the racism is called out.

I had a housemate who was very blond, and worked at an East Indian restaurant. I thought it was pretty cool.

I'm more concerned that the restaurant Clientele matches the restaurants ethnicity, but only in locales with enough appropriate persons of that ethnicity.  However, sometimes middle of nowhere has the most awesome ethnic food, with ALL the local ethnics working at that restaurant.

I'm confused. Why does it matter whether the clientele matches the restaurant's ethnicity? If I'm white and want to eat at an Asian restaurant, or if I'm Asian and feel like Italian food, why does it matter whether I'll "match" the restaurant's food, regardless of how many "appropriate persons of that ethnicity" reside at that particular location? I think I'm misunderstanding something here.
My guess is he means that if you see your local Chinese community frequent a particular restaurant, it means the restaurant's food is likely more authentic/yummier.

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« Reply #2468 on: September 20, 2018, 10:54:45 PM »
Not sure if "courage" is correct, or just astonishment that at the racism is called out.

I had a housemate who was very blond, and worked at an East Indian restaurant. I thought it was pretty cool.

I'm more concerned that the restaurant Clientele matches the restaurants ethnicity, but only in locales with enough appropriate persons of that ethnicity.  However, sometimes middle of nowhere has the most awesome ethnic food, with ALL the local ethnics working at that restaurant.

I'm confused. Why does it matter whether the clientele matches the restaurant's ethnicity? If I'm white and want to eat at an Asian restaurant, or if I'm Asian and feel like Italian food, why does it matter whether I'll "match" the restaurant's food, regardless of how many "appropriate persons of that ethnicity" reside at that particular location? I think I'm misunderstanding something here.
My guess is he means that if you see your local Chinese community frequent a particular restaurant, it means the restaurant's food is likely more authentic/yummier.

Where I live only the serving staff will be Chinese. Often the guys in the back will be Hispanic.  Panda Express may have every ethnicity but Chinese employed.  Not that it matters much.  American Chinese food, while tasty, is not actual Chinese food. 

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« Reply #2469 on: September 21, 2018, 05:50:27 AM »
Probably too late...but...termination due to race?

Probably something that would be worth a quick consult.

I seriously brought it up multiple times, because I was pretty sure we could get 1 or 2 others waiters who got let go in on it, but she didn't want the hassle, they only screwed her out of a couple weeks pay

I did forget to mention, she left them hanging in the middle of lunch rush

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« Reply #2470 on: September 21, 2018, 08:06:47 AM »
Just had an FU-money experience this morning!

Backstory: I work at a Mega-Corp, tens of thousands of employees, facilities all over the world, etc. There's a global project to remediate a number of our products, including some at my site. I've been involved in one specific (and specialized) part of the project since January. Another part of the project requires a lead at each site, someone who will organize the activities to be done, people needed, etc. A Project Manager-type role. I am not a Project Manager.

But you know where this is going. This past spring when the division said, "Who's your site lead?" the managers got together, hemmed and hawed, and all said, "My people are Too Busy, but Maenad is already involved, have her do it." My manager agreed and gave the assignment to me.

Over the past 6 months or so it's become brutally clear that I do not have the skills needed for this role. At all. Hell, I don't even know what I don't know. It's to the point that if I continue, I could actually damage my professional reputation by taking on something I'm unprepared for.

So this morning I went to my boss and told him I'm refusing this role and why. And that I understand that this can have negative ramifications on my job, but the impact to my career otherwise would be worse. I really, really didn't want to have that conversation, but the managers of the areas that should be doing this are thinking that if they just say No long enough, I'll cave, and I needed to make it clear to my boss that that isn't an option.

It was a really uncomfortable conversation, but it felt so good to know that I didn't have to hurt my career* just to save my job. And as it turns out, my boss didn't see this as refusing a direct order at all, so he's OK with me saying no.

*Currently projected to last only another 1.5 years, but still.

Iím a little late to celebrating this, but well done standing up for yourself and communicating what you needed in this instance!  Perfect use of having some FU money :)

I have noticed something similar in my own life - having a stronger handle on my finances (not necessarily FU money yet but I can see that on the horizon). Anyway, just having that confidence makes it much easier to be direct and upfront at work when something isnít working for me or could be better.

Nice job!

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2471 on: September 21, 2018, 09:11:25 AM »
Not sure if "courage" is correct, or just astonishment that at the racism is called out.

I had a housemate who was very blond, and worked at an East Indian restaurant. I thought it was pretty cool.

I'm more concerned that the restaurant Clientele matches the restaurants ethnicity, but only in locales with enough appropriate persons of that ethnicity.  However, sometimes middle of nowhere has the most awesome ethnic food, with ALL the local ethnics working at that restaurant.

I'm confused. Why does it matter whether the clientele matches the restaurant's ethnicity? If I'm white and want to eat at an Asian restaurant, or if I'm Asian and feel like Italian food, why does it matter whether I'll "match" the restaurant's food, regardless of how many "appropriate persons of that ethnicity" reside at that particular location? I think I'm misunderstanding something here.
My guess is he means that if you see your local Chinese community frequent a particular restaurant, it means the restaurant's food is likely more authentic/yummier.
Yep, what zolotiyeruki said.   Applies to other ethnicies too, not just Chinese.  Of course, more authentic might not be to your taste ie, YMMV.

Also applies to "American" resturants overseas.  "more authentic" is never spot on, but sometimes surprisingly close.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2472 on: September 21, 2018, 11:29:59 AM »

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I have noticed something similar in my own life - having a stronger handle on my finances (not necessarily FU money yet but I can see that on the horizon). Anyway, just having that confidence makes it much easier to be direct and upfront at work when something isnít working for me or could be better.

Nice job!
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Exactly this! I've binge-read this thread over the last few days, and it's given me a whole new mindset. I'm not anywhere near FIRE, but I'm working on it. I've been cutting expenses for 18 months & socking more into savings. Knowing that I have a little FU money (maybe 'Thanks, But No Thanks money), plus easily translatable job skills, helps me be more relaxed at my job. It also gives me this same kind of confidence. What are they going to do, fire me? Great, I'll collect unemployment and work some side gigs until I find another job at my level.

Thanks so much to everyone who's posted here!

(Foam: y'all can be singular, like when you don't want to call out an individual or cause offense (as in the car-backing out story another poster told) or like my grandma used it. "Y'all want somethin' ta eat?"; not implying that my mother hadn't offered me food or that I wasn't capable of preparing it myself, but that she would gladly prepare me something to eat. :)
Also, it works beautifully as a gender-neutral second person pronoun, and I use it regularly in the hospitality industry. Don't know the preferred pronoun? 'Y'all' to the rescue! This is from Oklahoma, with family by way of Virginia and Appalachia:)

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« Reply #2473 on: September 25, 2018, 05:03:26 PM »
This discussion on restaurants and race reminded me of the cultural appropriation uproar in Portlandia last year.  How could a Mexican or an Indian restaurant even consider hiring a white person?

https://www.tastingtable.com/dine/national/portland-kooks-burritos-cultural-appropriation-restaurant-list

/sarc off

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« Reply #2474 on: October 04, 2018, 08:30:24 AM »
Just wanting to bump this awesome thread that I've bingeread this week!

Not my FU story, but my mum:
She worked for one of the Big Four and when she was 52 she turned around to her bosses and said she wanted to retire, assuming they'd negotiate a steadily decreasing part-time arrangement over the next year to hand over her projects etc (in the same way two of her peers were in the process of doing). The partner who supervised her PANICKED, blurting out that they couldn't afford that, no-one had any of her knowledge, there was no-one to take over and he had no plan for replacing her as her skillset was probably unique in the world, let alone the UK.

She came out of that meeting with three weeks of extra PTO and an agreement to let her have a 3 month half-pay sabbatical the following year (the reason she wanted to retire early was to travel and enjoy some new cultures). Stupidly, they didn't set a time limit in the agreement for how long she had to stay so after she'd come back from the sabbatical and been back working for about 6 months, back she comes into his office. "I want to retire." This time, she walks out with another two weeks of PTO and a £15k pay increase.
Another year passes, another "retirement", out she walks with yet another two weeks of PTO and another big pay increase.

Eventually, she retires aged 63, with a whopping 22 weeks of PTO per year, having had three sabbaticals, paid £112k more per year than she was when she first tried to retire and, as a result, with a defined benefit pension plan that had been boosted massively. Even now (5 years later) she's going back to consult 2 or 3 days a month for 160% of her retiring salary...

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2475 on: October 04, 2018, 08:38:56 AM »
This discussion on restaurants and race reminded me of the cultural appropriation uproar in Portlandia last year.  How could a Mexican or an Indian restaurant even consider hiring a white person?

https://www.tastingtable.com/dine/national/portland-kooks-burritos-cultural-appropriation-restaurant-list

/sarc off

Portland when you start messing with Por Que No? You've gone too far...

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2476 on: October 04, 2018, 08:42:23 AM »
Just wanting to bump this awesome thread that I've bingeread this week!

Not my FU story, but my mum:
She worked for one of the Big Four and when she was 52 she turned around to her bosses and said she wanted to retire, assuming they'd negotiate a steadily decreasing part-time arrangement over the next year to hand over her projects etc (in the same way two of her peers were in the process of doing). The partner who supervised her PANICKED, blurting out that they couldn't afford that, no-one had any of her knowledge, there was no-one to take over and he had no plan for replacing her as her skillset was probably unique in the world, let alone the UK.

She came out of that meeting with three weeks of extra PTO and an agreement to let her have a 3 month half-pay sabbatical the following year (the reason she wanted to retire early was to travel and enjoy some new cultures). Stupidly, they didn't set a time limit in the agreement for how long she had to stay so after she'd come back from the sabbatical and been back working for about 6 months, back she comes into his office. "I want to retire." This time, she walks out with another two weeks of PTO and a £15k pay increase.
Another year passes, another "retirement", out she walks with yet another two weeks of PTO and another big pay increase.

Eventually, she retires aged 63, with a whopping 22 weeks of PTO per year, having had three sabbaticals, paid £112k more per year than she was when she first tried to retire and, as a result, with a defined benefit pension plan that had been boosted massively. Even now (5 years later) she's going back to consult 2 or 3 days a month for 160% of her retiring salary...

LOVE THIS!!!

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2477 on: October 04, 2018, 11:23:06 AM »
Just wanting to bump this awesome thread that I've bingeread this week!

Not my FU story, but my mum:
She worked for one of the Big Four and when she was 52 she turned around to her bosses and said she wanted to retire, assuming they'd negotiate a steadily decreasing part-time arrangement over the next year to hand over her projects etc (in the same way two of her peers were in the process of doing). The partner who supervised her PANICKED, blurting out that they couldn't afford that, no-one had any of her knowledge, there was no-one to take over and he had no plan for replacing her as her skillset was probably unique in the world, let alone the UK.

She came out of that meeting with three weeks of extra PTO and an agreement to let her have a 3 month half-pay sabbatical the following year (the reason she wanted to retire early was to travel and enjoy some new cultures). Stupidly, they didn't set a time limit in the agreement for how long she had to stay so after she'd come back from the sabbatical and been back working for about 6 months, back she comes into his office. "I want to retire." This time, she walks out with another two weeks of PTO and a £15k pay increase.
Another year passes, another "retirement", out she walks with yet another two weeks of PTO and another big pay increase.

Eventually, she retires aged 63, with a whopping 22 weeks of PTO per year, having had three sabbaticals, paid £112k more per year than she was when she first tried to retire and, as a result, with a defined benefit pension plan that had been boosted massively. Even now (5 years later) she's going back to consult 2 or 3 days a month for 160% of her retiring salary...

LOVE THIS!!!

Yeah.  @UK Dancer , your mum rocks.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2478 on: October 04, 2018, 11:41:37 AM »
@UK Dancer that is awesome! Interested to hear what her skillset was if you don't mind sharing?

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« Reply #2479 on: October 05, 2018, 12:55:56 AM »
Bearing in mind quite how unique it seems to be as a skillset and given she's still consulting, I'd probably better not be too specific, but it's a highly complex area of international tax law.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2480 on: October 05, 2018, 05:21:34 AM »
Your mum is a BOSS!!

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2481 on: October 05, 2018, 06:49:55 AM »
This discussion on restaurants and race reminded me of the cultural appropriation uproar in Portlandia last year.  How could a Mexican or an Indian restaurant even consider hiring a white person?

https://www.tastingtable.com/dine/national/portland-kooks-burritos-cultural-appropriation-restaurant-list

/sarc off

My favorite restaurant in my (second) college town was a Mexican restaurant that was purchased by an Indian family. Best everything ever.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2482 on: October 05, 2018, 06:29:57 PM »
When is an Asshair not an asshair?  (Asshair#5) the latest in a 20+ year saga...


Can you continue to work, please?  These are great stories and I think you need more content to entertain us.

TIA


Not likely, but I *DO* have a follow-up on Asshair#5 which is karmicly interesting...  funny(?)... you tell me.

Around August 14th, I rode my bike back to my last contract job site to treat myself to a free fancy coffee.  Even without a badge, I walked right in.  In fact, someone who knew me arrived at the same minute I did, and HELD THE DOOR FOR ME(!) 
I had rolled off the contract work on July 31st after training my back-fill person, and saying my goodbyes.  I found my former project co-workers exactly where I expected - 'camping' in the plush kitchen area in one of the more artistic buildings on campus.  We were discouraged from 'camping', but we had been promised a regular place to sit & work since APRIL, so... we did what we had to do to continue to perform good work. 

They were both happy to see me - my friendly co-worker AND my 'backfill'.  BUT... Asshair#5 wasn't scowling in his corner apart from the other two.  But while they seemed glad to see me, they also seemed... nervous.

ME:  So?  What's up? Where's AH5, and why so nervous?
THEM:  He was released from the project yesterday.  (!!!???!!!)  After you left, he had no one to talk him down from the ledge and he continued to muddle in 'corporate politics' (note: a BIG NO-NO when you're a contractor - just 'do-the-job').  The John let him go.  Today, we're meeting with the director to learn OUR fate this morning at 10am. 

WHOA!  Apparently the guy that caused me to pull the "FI" card [admittedly that was a bit passive aggressive, but I could afford to be that way... I certainly wasn't going to get into playing office politics the way Asshair#5 was doing] was 'released' (fired) from the project because he was overreaching his position, and trying to dictate how the development resources should get THEIR jobs done.  There was a massive butting of heads, and it was a fight he wasn't going to win. 

I briefly thought... S#!T, I could slip back in and project manage this thing in his place - I know how *I* would run it, and it would be much more to the client's liking!  But then, I realized I had already starting selling off all my stuff, donating stuff to Goodwill & other thriftstores, etc to prepare to sell the house and move to a LCOL area.  I'd rented the truck for 8/20 - and it wasn't worth postponing FI again just to butter my ego.  Ces't la vie!

Instead, I went into 'calm these guys down' mode.  "You're the two who are actually doing the WORK on the product / Project planning side, and they'd be crazy to let you go.  Just let them know you're still doing the work, and look forward to be able to give direct feedback instead of funneling everything through the 'Asshair#5 Filter'.  It was a bittersweet reunion, but I smiled all the way home after using their 'barista machine' to make myself two fancy coffee's.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2483 on: October 05, 2018, 09:12:10 PM »
When is an Asshair not an asshair?  (Asshair#5) the latest in a 20+ year saga...


Can you continue to work, please?  These are great stories and I think you need more content to entertain us.

TIA


Not likely, but I *DO* have a follow-up on Asshair#5 which is karmicly interesting...  funny(?)... you tell me.

Around August 14th, I rode my bike back to my last contract job site to treat myself to a free fancy coffee.  Even without a badge, I walked right in.  In fact, someone who knew me arrived at the same minute I did, and HELD THE DOOR FOR ME(!) 
I had rolled off the contract work on July 31st after training my back-fill person, and saying my goodbyes.  I found my former project co-workers exactly where I expected - 'camping' in the plush kitchen area in one of the more artistic buildings on campus.  We were discouraged from 'camping', but we had been promised a regular place to sit & work since APRIL, so... we did what we had to do to continue to perform good work. 

They were both happy to see me - my friendly co-worker AND my 'backfill'.  BUT... Asshair#5 wasn't scowling in his corner apart from the other two.  But while they seemed glad to see me, they also seemed... nervous.

ME:  So?  What's up? Where's AH5, and why so nervous?
THEM:  He was released from the project yesterday.  (!!!???!!!)  After you left, he had no one to talk him down from the ledge and he continued to muddle in 'corporate politics' (note: a BIG NO-NO when you're a contractor - just 'do-the-job').  The John let him go.  Today, we're meeting with the director to learn OUR fate this morning at 10am. 

WHOA!  Apparently the guy that caused me to pull the "FI" card [admittedly that was a bit passive aggressive, but I could afford to be that way... I certainly wasn't going to get into playing office politics the way Asshair#5 was doing] was 'released' (fired) from the project because he was overreaching his position, and trying to dictate how the development resources should get THEIR jobs done.  There was a massive butting of heads, and it was a fight he wasn't going to win. 

I briefly thought... S#!T, I could slip back in and project manage this thing in his place - I know how *I* would run it, and it would be much more to the client's liking!  But then, I realized I had already starting selling off all my stuff, donating stuff to Goodwill & other thriftstores, etc to prepare to sell the house and move to a LCOL area.  I'd rented the truck for 8/20 - and it wasn't worth postponing FI again just to butter my ego.  Ces't la vie!

Instead, I went into 'calm these guys down' mode.  "You're the two who are actually doing the WORK on the product / Project planning side, and they'd be crazy to let you go.  Just let them know you're still doing the work, and look forward to be able to give direct feedback instead of funneling everything through the 'Asshair#5 Filter'.  It was a bittersweet reunion, but I smiled all the way home after using their 'barista machine' to make myself two fancy coffee's.

Would it be too self-serving to point out that I made a t-shirt based on Asshair#5?  https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07FKRCC8M

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2484 on: October 06, 2018, 12:29:59 PM »
This discussion on restaurants and race reminded me of the cultural appropriation uproar in Portlandia last year.  How could a Mexican or an Indian restaurant even consider hiring a white person?

https://www.tastingtable.com/dine/national/portland-kooks-burritos-cultural-appropriation-restaurant-list

/sarc off

That article, just... wow.
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No offense to the easily offended (which is most Americans these days), but my family has lived on this continent for 15,000 years and in one branch or another absorbed almost every other immigrant group that has entered the territory that is now the United States for the past 400 years. I will make and eat (and sell if I feel like it) any damn food I want. I will also wear any clothes I want, any Halloween costume I want, listen and make any music I want, and produce any kind of art I want. If people don't like it, then they can move to another country that isn't multicultural like ours. [/rant]

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2485 on: October 17, 2018, 11:45:14 AM »
Hey,  for those of you with a long memory - I posted on here 2 years ago about a hideous boss.   Seems I was not alone in thinking so...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/4557549/kingston-pet-sitting-business-allegedly-mismanaged-says-former-workers-client/amp/


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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2486 on: October 22, 2018, 09:41:25 PM »
I am about to apply my FU stache and quit a toxic boss/job within the next week or so.  Will be back on this thread to provide an update of how it went!  No job to go to btw.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2487 on: October 23, 2018, 02:36:43 AM »
Hey,  for those of you with a long memory - I posted on here 2 years ago about a hideous boss.   Seems I was not alone in thinking so...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/4557549/kingston-pet-sitting-business-allegedly-mismanaged-says-former-workers-client/amp/
OMG, I totally remember the horrible "you're fired" texts. I hope you landed on your feet, and that everyone gets a fair settlement.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2488 on: October 23, 2018, 05:54:27 AM »
Of course I landed on my feet - I'm a MUSTACHIAN!   LOL :)
I had the feeling she wasn't going to pay me so I told her I'd be holding on to all the clients' keys until she e-transferred me all the money she owed me. She was outraged and threatened to call the police... I told her to go right ahead.
She had no choice but to pay right away, then  she cowardly sent someone else over to collect the keys.   I had that person sign for them and that was that.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2489 on: October 23, 2018, 07:42:24 AM »
Hey,  for those of you with a long memory - I posted on here 2 years ago about a hideous boss.   Seems I was not alone in thinking so...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/4557549/kingston-pet-sitting-business-allegedly-mismanaged-says-former-workers-client/amp/
For those who don't have the time to track it down:

The text message exchange between the boss and Cannot Wait!: https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/welcome-to-the-forum/epic-fu-money-stories/msg1015592/#msg1015592

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2490 on: October 23, 2018, 08:18:09 AM »
Hey,  for those of you with a long memory - I posted on here 2 years ago about a hideous boss.   Seems I was not alone in thinking so...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/4557549/kingston-pet-sitting-business-allegedly-mismanaged-says-former-workers-client/amp/
For those who don't have the time to track it down:

The text message exchange between the boss and Cannot Wait!: https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/welcome-to-the-forum/epic-fu-money-stories/msg1015592/#msg1015592

I remember the one job I had where the manager would text. I haven't allowed it since. Have had people text and I will respond by email or some other method when I am back in the office.

That conversation was off-the-clock (hourly job) where I just asked for clarification on what the duties were, and the response started with "Fortunately, I am your supervisor and I can tell you what you need to do..." and very abrasive messages followed afterwards. Quit the next day.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2491 on: October 23, 2018, 08:23:10 AM »
Hey,  for those of you with a long memory - I posted on here 2 years ago about a hideous boss.   Seems I was not alone in thinking so...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/4557549/kingston-pet-sitting-business-allegedly-mismanaged-says-former-workers-client/amp/
For those who don't have the time to track it down:

The text message exchange between the boss and Cannot Wait!: https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/welcome-to-the-forum/epic-fu-money-stories/msg1015592/#msg1015592

Wow!

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2492 on: October 23, 2018, 08:35:21 AM »
Copied from my journal.


So our Executive Director came in my office and told me she wanted to take on a 'leadership role' now that my supervisor was leaving. I said I would need the title of interim director and the according pay. She immediately shot that down. When I said that wouldn't work for me she started threatening me with double speak and dog whistles. I decided life is too short to put up with that crap and sent HR my two weeks notice.

I have some money saved and a part time job. But if anyone wants to buy one of my short stories, here's a link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CKSBZT1

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« Reply #2493 on: October 23, 2018, 09:26:17 AM »
Copied from my journal.
..... I said that wouldn't work for me she started threatening me with double speak and dog whistles.....

I've read 1984 so I know about double-speak, but I'm curious what constitutes dog whistles.

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« Reply #2494 on: October 23, 2018, 10:19:45 AM »
Copied from my journal.
..... I said that wouldn't work for me she started threatening me with double speak and dog whistles.....

I've read 1984 so I know about double-speak, but I'm curious what constitutes dog whistles.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/dog-whistle-political-meaning

When she started saying she would be checking in with me every day and making sure everything got done, she was signaling she would make my life miserable. I decided she can make someone else's life miserable. :)

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« Reply #2495 on: October 23, 2018, 10:47:04 AM »
Copied from my journal.
..... I said that wouldn't work for me she started threatening me with double speak and dog whistles.....

I've read 1984 so I know about double-speak, but I'm curious what constitutes dog whistles.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/dog-whistle-political-meaning

When she started saying she would be checking in with me every day and making sure everything got done, she was signaling she would make my life miserable. I decided she can make someone else's life miserable. :)

Good for you!

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #2496 on: October 23, 2018, 06:52:13 PM »
Copied from my journal.


So our Executive Director came in my office and told me she wanted to take on a 'leadership role' now that my supervisor was leaving. I said I would need the title of interim director and the according pay. She immediately shot that down. When I said that wouldn't work for me she started threatening me with double speak and dog whistles. I decided life is too short to put up with that crap and sent HR my two weeks notice.

I have some money saved and a part time job. But if anyone wants to buy one of my short stories, here's a link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CKSBZT1

Loved your story.  Congratulations!

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« Reply #2497 on: October 26, 2018, 05:50:28 PM »
   Awesome job asking for the pay and title rather than just taking the rotten offer! We had one today at work, mid to late 50s senior purchasing guy quit today, and his last day is this coming Wednesday! His boss was an abrasive tool. (Arrogant without an ounce of smarts to back it up, I suspect he was born with a "Craftsmen" birthmark). He resigned with 3 days notice and pretty sure he bailed about 2 today. I heard this and congratulated him on the great big double bird to Megacorp. He just laughed and said "F this place, I'm retired". He drives a Prius and brings his lunch most days. Pretty GD funny as the joint has lost a number of bright folks in the last few years.  Made my day to see him grinning from ear to ear and happy as hell.

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« Reply #2498 on: October 27, 2018, 03:55:07 AM »
   Awesome job asking for the pay and title rather than just taking the rotten offer! We had one today at work, mid to late 50s senior purchasing guy quit today, and his last day is this coming Wednesday! His boss was an abrasive tool. (Arrogant without an ounce of smarts to back it up, I suspect he was born with a "Craftsmen" birthmark). He resigned with 3 days notice and pretty sure he bailed about 2 today. I heard this and congratulated him on the great big double bird to Megacorp. He just laughed and said "F this place, I'm retired". He drives a Prius and brings his lunch most days. Pretty GD funny as the joint has lost a number of bright folks in the last few years.  Made my day to see him grinning from ear to ear and happy as hell.


Can you ask him if he's on the mmm forum?

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« Reply #2499 on: October 27, 2018, 08:51:08 AM »
   I will ask him if he is a fellow MMM traveler for kicks. He has been in the thick of managing/payment processing an $85,000,000 project (sterile pharmaceutical filling line) and a direct quote after his F this place statement  was "I don't need the money and I sure as hell don't need the bullshit". He has been well past the IDGAF phase for awhile and is a genuinely pleasant and funny guy to work with for a couple years.  Hoping to buy him a beer next week. :)