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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1900 on: October 19, 2017, 05:15:22 AM »
Well done, Freedomin5!

I hope the future brings either better opportunities with competent managers or a happy and relaxed retirement.

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« Reply #1901 on: October 19, 2017, 09:15:21 AM »
Several years ago, the Old Company (OC) I worked for was acquired by New Company (NC).

OC hired highly qualified and experienced people that were managed by even more highly qualified and experienced people. After the acquisition, the qualified people were given new contracts with NC (since OC technically no longer existed). The kicker was that, according to NC management, under the NC's HR policy and salary structure, most people ended up in a lower salary band...as in between 30-50% lower salary.

Over the next several months, because qualified people refused to work for less than market rates and didn't even bother applying for positions or quit, they hired on a lot of unqualified people, then expected the remaining qualified ones to manage/mentor the unqualified ones, on top of maintaining their own existing workload...all for less pay.

FU money allowed me to:

1. Refuse to sign the new contract. When the new manager brought it up and told me I HAD to sign, I asked her, "You know what I make now, and what I would make under the new contract. As a logical, well educated person, would you sign the new contract if you were me?" She smiled sheepishly and then mumbled something about HR and salary structures that couldn't be changed, and how I didn't qualify for the highest band because of years of experience or something. I didn't really hear her because I didn't care enough to listen to the excuses. I was still paid my old salary.

2. Ignore all stupid new processes. When manager brought it up, I told her she could file the paperwork on my behalf if it was really that necessary. None of the paperwork was ever filed because in reality, none of it was that necessary.

3. I was eventually called in to chat with the VP of the group (my manager's manager's manager), who was brought in from NC headquarters. She basically asked me what was wrong with me, phrased as, "You don't seem very happy...why?" So I told her why I thought all the qualified people were leaving, then handed her my resignation letter and walked out of her office.
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« Reply #1902 on: October 19, 2017, 09:23:47 AM »
So I told her why I thought all the qualified people were leaving, then handed her my resignation letter and walked out of her office.

This made me so happy.  Well done!
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« Reply #1903 on: October 19, 2017, 11:52:05 AM »
3. I was eventually called in to chat with the VP of the group (my manager's manager's manager), who was brought in from NC headquarters. She basically asked me what was wrong with me, phrased as, "You don't seem very happy...why?" So I told her why I thought all the qualified people were leaving, then handed her my resignation letter and walked out of her office.

I bet the look on her face would be priceless. I would pay a lot of money to be in the room and observe this meeting.

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« Reply #1904 on: October 19, 2017, 11:56:01 AM »
3. I was eventually called in to chat with the VP of the group (my manager's manager's manager), who was brought in from NC headquarters. She basically asked me what was wrong with me, phrased as, "You don't seem very happy...why?" So I told her why I thought all the qualified people were leaving, then handed her my resignation letter and walked out of her office.

I bet the look on her face would be priceless. I would pay a lot of money to be in the room and observe this meeting.
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« Reply #1905 on: October 19, 2017, 02:13:45 PM »
Several years ago, the Old Company (OC) I worked for was acquired by New Company (NC).

OC hired highly qualified and experienced people that were managed by even more highly qualified and experienced people. After the acquisition, the qualified people were given new contracts with NC (since OC technically no longer existed). The kicker was that, according to NC management, under the NC's HR policy and salary structure, most people ended up in a lower salary band...as in between 30-50% lower salary.

Over the next several months, because qualified people refused to work for less than market rates and didn't even bother applying for positions or quit, they hired on a lot of unqualified people, then expected the remaining qualified ones to manage/mentor the unqualified ones, on top of maintaining their own existing workload...all for less pay.

FU money allowed me to:

1. Refuse to sign the new contract. When the new manager brought it up and told me I HAD to sign, I asked her, "You know what I make now, and what I would make under the new contract. As a logical, well educated person, would you sign the new contract if you were me?" She smiled sheepishly and then mumbled something about HR and salary structures that couldn't be changed, and how I didn't qualify for the highest band because of years of experience or something. I didn't really hear her because I didn't care enough to listen to the excuses. I was still paid my old salary.

2. Ignore all stupid new processes. When manager brought it up, I told her she could file the paperwork on my behalf if it was really that necessary. None of the paperwork was ever filed because in reality, none of it was that necessary.

3. I was eventually called in to chat with the VP of the group (my manager's manager's manager), who was brought in from NC headquarters. She basically asked me what was wrong with me, phrased as, "You don't seem very happy...why?" So I told her why I thought all the qualified people were leaving, then handed her my resignation letter and walked out of her office.

That is fantastic.

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« Reply #1906 on: October 19, 2017, 08:19:46 PM »
That's great, I'm thinking that the more experienced people hold their own and realize their worth, the more corporations will have to pay them or improve working conditions. In a way, Mustachian ways should help social equality in the long term... that's the hope anyway.

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« Reply #1907 on: October 20, 2017, 07:29:05 AM »
3. I was eventually called in to chat with the VP of the group (my manager's manager's manager), who was brought in from NC headquarters. She basically asked me what was wrong with me, phrased as, "You don't seem very happy...why?" So I told her why I thought all the qualified people were leaving, then handed her my resignation letter and walked out of her office.

I bet the look on her face would be priceless. I would pay a lot of money to be in the room and observe this meeting.
Indeed!  What was the reaction like?

At first, she was all pretend concerned, like she had read the latest "how to manage people" book and was practicing her empathetic face. She was actually sort of aware of the problems. I just laid them out in a straightforward manner. She took notes as I talked. When I walked out with a big old smile on my face, she was kind of speechless but also kind of not surprised that this happened. They had been experiencing a steady exodus of qualified people for months before I walked.

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« Reply #1908 on: October 20, 2017, 08:39:18 PM »
3. I was eventually called in to chat with the VP of the group (my manager's manager's manager), who was brought in from NC headquarters. She basically asked me what was wrong with me, phrased as, "You don't seem very happy...why?" So I told her why I thought all the qualified people were leaving, then handed her my resignation letter and walked out of her office.

I bet the look on her face would be priceless. I would pay a lot of money to be in the room and observe this meeting.
Indeed!  What was the reaction like?

At first, she was all pretend concerned, like she had read the latest "how to manage people" book and was practicing her empathetic face. She was actually sort of aware of the problems. I just laid them out in a straightforward manner. She took notes as I talked. When I walked out with a big old smile on my face, she was kind of speechless but also kind of not surprised that this happened. They had been experiencing a steady exodus of qualified people for months before I walked.

That's beautiful!

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« Reply #1909 on: November 02, 2017, 11:51:57 PM »
I don't know if this involved FU money, but I hope so. Someone on their last day at Twitter shut down 45's account. It stayed down for eleven minutes.


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« Reply #1910 on: November 03, 2017, 02:55:26 AM »
I don't know if this involved FU money, but I hope so. Someone on their last day at Twitter shut down 45's account. It stayed down for eleven minutes.

That's brilliant. That guy has earned some serious good karma.

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« Reply #1911 on: November 03, 2017, 06:39:58 AM »
I don't know if this involved FU money, but I hope so. Someone on their last day at Twitter shut down 45's account. It stayed down for eleven minutes.

This is why corporations have such a ruthless policy on people leaving, to the extent some have security escort you to the door the minute you resign.  Some let you know you are fired by your key-card no longer working when you arrive in the morning.

I had an old co-worker who was given a notice of termination, went to his computer, and destroyed three months of his work.

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« Reply #1912 on: November 03, 2017, 07:30:10 AM »
I don't know if this involved FU money, but I hope so. Someone on their last day at Twitter shut down 45's account. It stayed down for eleven minutes.

That's brilliant. That guy has earned some serious good karma.

What are you talking about?  The guys name is going to be released.  Future employers will not hire him due to the fact that if he ever leaves he may fuck up something at their organization.  Boy he sure showed them...all of 11 minutes.  What a douche monkey.

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« Reply #1913 on: November 03, 2017, 07:32:01 AM »
I don't know if this involved FU money, but I hope so. Someone on their last day at Twitter shut down 45's account. It stayed down for eleven minutes.

This is why corporations have such a ruthless policy on people leaving, to the extent some have security escort you to the door the minute you resign.  Some let you know you are fired by your key-card no longer working when you arrive in the morning.

I had an old co-worker who was given a notice of termination, went to his computer, and destroyed three months of his work.

Yup...we just had 3 people get laid off.  They were told and escorted off the property immediately.  Management had to round their things up in their offices and meet them outside to deliver. 

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« Reply #1914 on: November 03, 2017, 07:43:41 AM »
I don't know if this involved FU money, but I hope so. Someone on their last day at Twitter shut down 45's account. It stayed down for eleven minutes.

That's brilliant. That guy has earned some serious good karma.

What are you talking about?  The guys name is going to be released.  Future employers will not hire him due to the fact that if he ever leaves he may fuck up something at their organization.  Boy he sure showed them...all of 11 minutes.  What a douche monkey.

Which he won't care about if he retired. Maybe he doesn't need the money and wanted to start a conversation.

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« Reply #1915 on: November 03, 2017, 08:41:58 AM »
I don't know if this involved FU money, but I hope so. Someone on their last day at Twitter shut down 45's account. It stayed down for eleven minutes.

That's brilliant. That guy has earned some serious good karma.

He put his ideology above the mission of his company, and in the process took a swipe at a sitting US president. Yeah, brilliant.

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« Reply #1916 on: November 03, 2017, 08:59:02 AM »
I don't know if this involved FU money, but I hope so. Someone on their last day at Twitter shut down 45's account. It stayed down for eleven minutes.

This is why corporations have such a ruthless policy on people leaving, to the extent some have security escort you to the door the minute you resign.  Some let you know you are fired by your key-card no longer working when you arrive in the morning.

I had an old co-worker who was given a notice of termination, went to his computer, and destroyed three months of his work.

This should be impossible to do from a computer. I understand disgruntled former employees can do some damage, but every company should know this and have a robust system of data backup with multiple sources of verification to protect against accidental AND purposeful loss. Shame of the former employee, as well as the company.

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« Reply #1917 on: November 03, 2017, 09:00:55 AM »
I don't know if this involved FU money, but I hope so. Someone on their last day at Twitter shut down 45's account. It stayed down for eleven minutes.

That's brilliant. That guy has earned some serious good karma.

He put his ideology above the mission of his company, and in the process took a swipe at a sitting US president. Yeah, brilliant.

Why does everyone assume it is a he?

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« Reply #1918 on: November 03, 2017, 09:02:57 AM »
Statistics? More men than women in Tech.

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« Reply #1919 on: November 03, 2017, 09:10:40 AM »
Statistics? More men than women in Tech.

In addition, men are usually more aggressive, and therefore more likely to make a career-ending mistake. It may turn out to be a woman, of course, but until we know, we'll keep using "he".

And besides all that, "they" is still just weird when referring to a single person.

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« Reply #1920 on: November 03, 2017, 09:11:51 AM »
And besides all that, "they" is still just weird when referring to a single person.

You need to get over that. :)

I enjoyed their act of chaos.
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« Reply #1921 on: November 03, 2017, 09:25:12 AM »
Said employee may be a customer support/first line employee, where the gender distribution is much closer to 50/50 than engineering roles.

Not that it matters in any way, it's still a dumb move regardless of who they are.

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« Reply #1922 on: November 03, 2017, 10:39:46 AM »
This should be impossible to do from a computer. I understand disgruntled former employees can do some damage, but every company should know this and have a robust system of data backup with multiple sources of verification to protect against accidental AND purposeful loss. Shame of the former employee, as well as the company.

For a software developer - yes.  For some generic middle manager Excel user many be not.  The words "commit", "check in", "repo" and "branch" have very different meanings outside tech :-)

I have always wondered a bit what rights a former employees has to personal effects in there office.  Can they legally only expect an "honest effort to collect and return personal effects" be made by the company or do they have any right to inspect and remove things?
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« Reply #1923 on: November 03, 2017, 10:52:24 AM »
Anticipatory FU story coming in:

My wife and I moved recently and last year she wasn't able to have Christmas with her family. This year, they're flying out and we'll spend some time with them; the first Christmas she'd have spent with them in a few years, and their first time visiting us.

She asked off for the 26th of December and was denied PTO - back over three months ago. So she's going to call out sick. If they fire her, so be it. It's ridiculous that with so much notice, in her line of work, she "can't" take that time off when family is in town. We've got the cash to deal with her getting fired if that's what happens. Feelsgoodman

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« Reply #1924 on: November 03, 2017, 11:32:42 AM »
Anticipatory FU story coming in:

My wife and I moved recently and last year she wasn't able to have Christmas with her family. This year, they're flying out and we'll spend some time with them; the first Christmas she'd have spent with them in a few years, and their first time visiting us.

She asked off for the 26th of December and was denied PTO - back over three months ago. So she's going to call out sick. If they fire her, so be it. It's ridiculous that with so much notice, in her line of work, she "can't" take that time off when family is in town. We've got the cash to deal with her getting fired if that's what happens. Feelsgoodman

Most excellent. It's a great feeling to look your boss in the eye and dare him to fire you that way. FU money is awesome. My guess is they will shrivel in fear and just let it pass. It would be dumb of them to make a big deal out of it.

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« Reply #1925 on: November 03, 2017, 12:12:28 PM »
Anticipatory FU story coming in:

My wife and I moved recently and last year she wasn't able to have Christmas with her family. This year, they're flying out and we'll spend some time with them; the first Christmas she'd have spent with them in a few years, and their first time visiting us.

She asked off for the 26th of December and was denied PTO - back over three months ago. So she's going to call out sick. If they fire her, so be it. It's ridiculous that with so much notice, in her line of work, she "can't" take that time off when family is in town. We've got the cash to deal with her getting fired if that's what happens. Feelsgoodman

Most excellent. It's a great feeling to look your boss in the eye and dare him to fire you that way. FU money is awesome. My guess is they will shrivel in fear and just let it pass. It would be dumb of them to make a big deal out of it.
If an employee's in some safety critical role then 26th December has to be staffed.  Or if its something like retail with sales starting, or customer service on items that are commonly given as Christmas gifts.  When cover is needed in cases such as those then it is usual for the newest employees to be required to take the unpopular shifts/days and that seems fair.

But if its a standard office type job with nothing critical it should be entirely possible for cover by phone/internet to be arranged to be undertaken by willing employees (and perhaps paid extra for).
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« Reply #1926 on: November 03, 2017, 12:18:39 PM »
Anticipatory FU story coming in:

My wife and I moved recently and last year she wasn't able to have Christmas with her family. This year, they're flying out and we'll spend some time with them; the first Christmas she'd have spent with them in a few years, and their first time visiting us.

She asked off for the 26th of December and was denied PTO - back over three months ago. So she's going to call out sick. If they fire her, so be it. It's ridiculous that with so much notice, in her line of work, she "can't" take that time off when family is in town. We've got the cash to deal with her getting fired if that's what happens. Feelsgoodman

Most excellent. It's a great feeling to look your boss in the eye and dare him to fire you that way. FU money is awesome. My guess is they will shrivel in fear and just let it pass. It would be dumb of them to make a big deal out of it.
If an employee's in some safety critical role then 26th December has to be staffed.  Or if its something like retail with sales starting, or customer service on items that are commonly given as Christmas gifts.  When cover is needed in cases such as those then it is usual for the newest employees to be required to take the unpopular shifts/days and that seems fair.

But if its a standard office type job with nothing critical it should be entirely possible for cover by phone/internet to be arranged to be undertaken by willing employees (and perhaps paid extra for).

The issue is because it's a Tuesday and that's the 'busy day' for her, arbitrarily. Not in a safety critical role, plenty of other folks to cover.

Edit: And to clarify she's been with the company for six years, but when we moved she switched offices. She is no longer the new person even by that standard...They've screwed her out of bonuses THREE years where she realistically should have gotten them (first was because she was a temp until early January, so she didn't work there the full year = no bonus; second was her old office because she was only there a partial year; third was her new office because she was only there a partial year. Other years the offices hit their goals but the company didn't, so no bonuses...overall that's left a really bad taste in her mouth on the company in general).

She's ready for a change regardless of what happens on the 26th.
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« Reply #1927 on: November 03, 2017, 01:03:38 PM »
Love the anticipatory FU money story - that brought a big smile to my face.

Regarding the Twitter employee whose exploits I posted - I have no way of knowing if this is truly an FU money story, or simply a person who just burned all their bridges. One way or another, it was certainly a definitive act.

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« Reply #1928 on: November 03, 2017, 01:09:24 PM »
Anticipatory FU story coming in:

My wife and I moved recently and last year she wasn't able to have Christmas with her family. This year, they're flying out and we'll spend some time with them; the first Christmas she'd have spent with them in a few years, and their first time visiting us.

She asked off for the 26th of December and was denied PTO - back over three months ago. So she's going to call out sick. If they fire her, so be it. It's ridiculous that with so much notice, in her line of work, she "can't" take that time off when family is in town. We've got the cash to deal with her getting fired if that's what happens. Feelsgoodman

Most excellent. It's a great feeling to look your boss in the eye and dare him to fire you that way. FU money is awesome. My guess is they will shrivel in fear and just let it pass. It would be dumb of them to make a big deal out of it.
If an employee's in some safety critical role then 26th December has to be staffed.  Or if its something like retail with sales starting, or customer service on items that are commonly given as Christmas gifts.  When cover is needed in cases such as those then it is usual for the newest employees to be required to take the unpopular shifts/days and that seems fair.

But if its a standard office type job with nothing critical it should be entirely possible for cover by phone/internet to be arranged to be undertaken by willing employees (and perhaps paid extra for).

The issue is because it's a Tuesday and that's the 'busy day' for her, arbitrarily. Not in a safety critical role, plenty of other folks to cover.

Edit: And to clarify she's been with the company for six years, but when we moved she switched offices. She is no longer the new person even by that standard...

Folks without FU money, sadly.  Good for her!
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« Reply #1929 on: November 03, 2017, 01:12:52 PM »
Anticipatory FU story coming in:

My wife and I moved recently and last year she wasn't able to have Christmas with her family. This year, they're flying out and we'll spend some time with them; the first Christmas she'd have spent with them in a few years, and their first time visiting us.

She asked off for the 26th of December and was denied PTO - back over three months ago. So she's going to call out sick. If they fire her, so be it. It's ridiculous that with so much notice, in her line of work, she "can't" take that time off when family is in town. We've got the cash to deal with her getting fired if that's what happens. Feelsgoodman

Most excellent. It's a great feeling to look your boss in the eye and dare him to fire you that way. FU money is awesome. My guess is they will shrivel in fear and just let it pass. It would be dumb of them to make a big deal out of it.
If an employee's in some safety critical role then 26th December has to be staffed.  Or if its something like retail with sales starting, or customer service on items that are commonly given as Christmas gifts.  When cover is needed in cases such as those then it is usual for the newest employees to be required to take the unpopular shifts/days and that seems fair.

But if its a standard office type job with nothing critical it should be entirely possible for cover by phone/internet to be arranged to be undertaken by willing employees (and perhaps paid extra for).

The issue is because it's a Tuesday and that's the 'busy day' for her, arbitrarily. Not in a safety critical role, plenty of other folks to cover.

Edit: And to clarify she's been with the company for six years, but when we moved she switched offices. She is no longer the new person even by that standard...

Folks without FU money, sadly.  Good for her!

She's looking at a career change anyway, so honestly it's not a big deal anyway. Really nice to have the FU Money. May put some plans on pause but well worth it :)

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« Reply #1930 on: November 03, 2017, 03:41:17 PM »
I don't know if this involved FU money, but I hope so. Someone on their last day at Twitter shut down 45's account. It stayed down for eleven minutes.

That's brilliant. That guy has earned some serious good karma.

What are you talking about?  The guys name is going to be released.  Future employers will not hire him due to the fact that if he ever leaves he may fuck up something at their organization.  Boy he sure showed them...all of 11 minutes.  What a douche monkey.

I agree.....would never hire this guy.  Sorry, but extremely unprofessional...

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« Reply #1931 on: November 03, 2017, 05:47:22 PM »
I'd hire him. He's got personal integrity and balls of steel. I like people that won't sit around letting crap happen and are prepared to burn something to the ground to make a point. It's not a bad thing NOT to be a yes-sir-no-sir monkey. These are the people that make things happen. The guy's just got to find himself a field where being the square peg is the advantage. I speak as a very experienced square peg. What used to be described as 'trouble maker' and 'stirrer' is now 'brought in to change the corporate culture' and 'cutting out the deadwood'.

I once worked as a cleaner at a church that was a little too celebratory of 'white culture', if you know what I mean.  On the day they had a scheduled a festival of said 'white culture', a festival months in the organising, with renowned guest speakers on the subject of 'white culture', I filled every lock in the building with glue. Of course, they just called the locksmiths and the festival went ahead, but I got more than 11 minutes of annoyance for the bastards!


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« Reply #1932 on: November 03, 2017, 06:01:14 PM »
I don't know if this involved FU money, but I hope so. Someone on their last day at Twitter shut down 45's account. It stayed down for eleven minutes.

That's brilliant. That guy has earned some serious good karma.

He put his ideology above the mission of his company, and in the process took a swipe at a sitting US president. Yeah, brilliant.


This post made me laugh. I seriously could not give even the faintest flying crap about the mission of my company. I only spout their silliness because they pay me to do so. I'm actually all about my personal ideology. I really can't imagine the kind of person who wouldn't be this way! Equally, I don't have the slightest care or respect for the office of the president of the US or any other title that supposedly connotes authority. I take people as I find them and your president I find to be an A grade twat. I'm equally likely to be as disrespectful to the local minister, the chief of police or a surgeon, if I dislike them. If it suits me to be superficially polite and charming and respectful, I'll play the game. If not, I won't. Here we are on a site that actively encourages bucking the system. I'm astounded that most people who have posted about this twitter thing can't see the value in subversive acts. Especially essentially HARMLESS subversive acts. What twitter guy did was quiet resistance, that didn't hurt anyone, and I applaud him for it.

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« Reply #1933 on: November 03, 2017, 07:13:15 PM »
Can we not ruin one of the best threads on the forum with stupid political bullshit?
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« Reply #1934 on: November 03, 2017, 07:53:57 PM »
Can we not ruin one of the best threads on the forum with stupid political bullshit?

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Take your political fights out of this thread!!!
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« Reply #1935 on: November 03, 2017, 09:58:12 PM »
I'd hire him. He's got personal integrity and balls of steel. I like people that won't sit around letting crap happen and are prepared to burn something to the ground to make a point. It's not a bad thing NOT to be a yes-sir-no-sir monkey. These are the people that make things happen. The guy's just got to find himself a field where being the square peg is the advantage. I speak as a very experienced square peg. What used to be described as 'trouble maker' and 'stirrer' is now 'brought in to change the corporate culture' and 'cutting out the deadwood'.

I once worked as a cleaner at a church that was a little too celebratory of 'white culture', if you know what I mean.  On the day they had a scheduled a festival of said 'white culture', a festival months in the organising, with renowned guest speakers on the subject of 'white culture', I filled every lock in the building with glue. Of course, they just called the locksmiths and the festival went ahead, but I got more than 11 minutes of annoyance for the bastards!

That's called vandalism. 

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« Reply #1936 on: November 03, 2017, 10:13:28 PM »
I don't know if this involved FU money, but I hope so. Someone on their last day at Twitter shut down 45's account. It stayed down for eleven minutes.

That's brilliant. That guy has earned some serious good karma.

What are you talking about?  The guys name is going to be released.  Future employers will not hire him due to the fact that if he ever leaves he may fuck up something at their organization.  Boy he sure showed them...all of 11 minutes.  What a douche monkey.

I agree.....would never hire this guy.  Sorry, but extremely unprofessional...

+1. It is one thing to be able to leave a crappy job and have FU money to back it up, which I think what we are celebrating here.

It is a whole different conversation when one destroy his/her work or do damages as walking out the door. This is vandalism and illegal, and that company can press charges. If you are that unhappy with you job, just leave. Why risk losing FU money - if the company press charges, I am sure hiring a lawyer are not cheap. Not to mention possibility of fine and/or jail time. How is that going to look in a resume...

And yes, no need for political rant here - there is a thread for that.

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« Reply #1937 on: November 04, 2017, 03:01:54 AM »
I don't know if this involved FU money, but I hope so. Someone on their last day at Twitter shut down 45's account. It stayed down for eleven minutes.

That's brilliant. That guy has earned some serious good karma.

What are you talking about?  The guys name is going to be released.  Future employers will not hire him due to the fact that if he ever leaves he may fuck up something at their organization.  Boy he sure showed them...all of 11 minutes.  What a douche monkey.

I agree.....would never hire this guy.  Sorry, but extremely unprofessional...

+1. It is one thing to be able to leave a crappy job and have FU money to back it up, which I think what we are celebrating here.

It is a whole different conversation when one destroy his/her work or do damages as walking out the door. This is vandalism and illegal, and that company can press charges. If you are that unhappy with you job, just leave. Why risk losing FU money - if the company press charges, I am sure hiring a lawyer are not cheap. Not to mention possibility of fine and/or jail time. How is that going to look in a resume...

And yes, no need for political rant here - there is a thread for that.
But Twitter guy didn't exactly destroy anything (the account was recovered in full) and did limited damage (the account was recovered within minutes).  Easier to argue he did Twitter a favour by pointing out how poor their internal security was - for which reason I suspect the chances of them taking any action against him are non-existant.

Also, if they did try to take action, I predict that Twitter guy would have lawyers lining up to argue that he properly took down an account which contravened Twitter rules against harassing people or issuing death threats.
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« Reply #1938 on: November 04, 2017, 03:59:34 AM »
I apologise for the political rant. Wasn't really intended as a political rant. I don't care enough about politics even in my own country to truly rant. Anyhoo, the comments on this twitter thing are funny and I'm highly amused by the whole situation.

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« Reply #1939 on: November 04, 2017, 04:46:11 AM »
That's called vandalism.

I've known of two cases of this.  One was a librarian guy in a data-delivery company, passive aggressive to extremes.  You would never have known, based on his unctuous smiles and nervous head-nods, that he was poisonously aggrieved, and we had us a semi-active Bartleby in our office.  He never said a word about whatever was bothering him.  Never to management, never to friends (he did not seem to have any at work.)  He lined up another job, and wipedisked his hard drive.  And no, the company did not have a good backup policy, and ended up going to one of those data-recovery outfits, which failed, so it lost his work plus his part of team tasks.  I would class his replacement job as a form of FU money.

The other was a sadder case, which I think was attributable to a lack of FU money.  It was a startup, and had the usual employees-are-kleenex attitude.  But it was the best job she had ever had (she had a worthless profligate husband and a family to support), and by her conduct she made sure it would be the best job she would ever have.  She desperately needed the job, and when the company worked the flush handle and many of us were circling the toilet bowl, she locked herself in her office, sobbing, and cut up the floppy disks containing the company's QA program with a scissors.  (This was a long time ago, and an irony was that the company was one of the very first to be putting data on optical disks, but was still operating based on floppies.) 

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« Reply #1940 on: November 04, 2017, 08:19:29 AM »
I don't know if this involved FU money, but I hope so. Someone on their last day at Twitter shut down 45's account. It stayed down for eleven minutes.

That's brilliant. That guy has earned some serious good karma.

What are you talking about?  The guys name is going to be released.  Future employers will not hire him due to the fact that if he ever leaves he may fuck up something at their organization.  Boy he sure showed them...all of 11 minutes.  What a douche monkey.

I agree.....would never hire this guy.  Sorry, but extremely unprofessional...

+1. It is one thing to be able to leave a crappy job and have FU money to back it up, which I think what we are celebrating here.

It is a whole different conversation when one destroy his/her work or do damages as walking out the door. This is vandalism and illegal, and that company can press charges. If you are that unhappy with you job, just leave. Why risk losing FU money - if the company press charges, I am sure hiring a lawyer are not cheap. Not to mention possibility of fine and/or jail time. How is that going to look in a resume...

And yes, no need for political rant here - there is a thread for that.
But Twitter guy didn't exactly destroy anything (the account was recovered in full) and did limited damage (the account was recovered within minutes).  Easier to argue he did Twitter a favour by pointing out how poor their internal security was - for which reason I suspect the chances of them taking any action against him are non-existant.

Also, if they did try to take action, I predict that Twitter guy would have lawyers lining up to argue that he properly took down an account which contravened Twitter rules against harassing people or issuing death threats.

I am not a lawyer, and not going to argue with you if this guy "didn't exactly destroy anything" or did, or if his "limited damage" is actually doing Twitter a favor or not.

Maybe he will have lawyers lining up pro-bono to defend him, maybe he won't, and have to spend money to defend himself. Considering Twitter has a lot more money to burn than this guy, I think we all agree if Twitter press charges, sue him, take him to court, successful or not, it can make life very difficult for this guy, right? So how is this exactly a good thing for this guy? Not to mention that I think some company will not hire him from this - I know I would not. This is not a behavior that should be rewarded imo.

I wonder how this will play out in court, if it goes that far. IMO feels a little like Robin Hood: your honor, I only rob the bank so I can give the money to the poor. If one use this type of argument, then he will not end up in jail? I think not :)

Lets go back to the topic at hand, ok?  :D

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« Reply #1941 on: November 04, 2017, 09:56:21 AM »
So let's get this back to good FU stories!  I've got another one - after posting one just a few pages back!

So I've been unemployed for 6 months now.  At around the 4 month mark I got a call from a company for an interview.  The job was an extremely close match on paper.  I had 10 years experience doing exactly what they needed.  I went in and had a mediocre one hour interview with a panel of about 8 people.  To my surprise the next week they made me an offer for about 70% of my market value!  I've literally known them for all of one hour, and they are making me an offer to work for them (Red flag #1)!  This company, come to find out, was awful.  Their stock, once traded at $250/share was now trading for 5 shares for a penny (Red flag #2).  Horribly mismanaged by all accounts.  I had no tour of the building (red flag #3), no meeting with the people to really get to know that it was a good fit from a chemistry perspective (red flag #4), and no chance to really understand what they wanted me working on in the first 90 days (red flag #5).  Glassdoor reviews were awful - one even says, "Get ready. I'm sure the IRS will be coming for you soon for all your shady dealings. Loose lips sink ships. A lot of employee's won't have any issue telling the Feds their true stories."  (red flag #6).  The job also came with a shitty 25 minute commute on a good day (red flag #7) and shitty benefits (red flag #8).

The extremely poor offer (red flag #9) was the final straw.  I wanted out of this deal bad.  However, I had to be careful because if I refused an offer I could potentially lose my unemployment benefits.  So I negotiated for 100% of my market rate, additional training (~$5k worth), and an additional week of vacation.  Honestly, this was a great deal for both parties - I figured I'd do the job and keep my resume floating around and be ready to jump ship when the right thing came along.  They declined my counter offer, and decided that they were going to look for other candidates.  Phew!  Got out of that one by the skin of my teeth.

During our negotiations the HR person I was working with said they've been talking with other people with twice the experience that wanted less than I did.  I said, "What are you talking to me for then?"  I really wish I could have seen her face when I said that - we were on the phone.  But the truth is that they still haven't found anyone.  I saw they posted the job again 8 days ago - for much less than what they offered me (40% to 60% of the going rate) - they'll never find someone with 5+ years of experience stateside for that salary.

I'm considering posting interview information to glassdoor about my awful experience as well.  Probably also encouraging their current employees to leave if they are making that kind of money.  I mean, I've heard of C grade companies, but I really think they were trying to take advantage of me and seeing if I was hungry.  Thank god for FU money!

I've got one more FU story - but I'll save it for another day.

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« Reply #1942 on: November 04, 2017, 10:10:34 AM »
I am not a lawyer, and not going to argue with you if this guy "didn't exactly destroy anything" or did, or if his "limited damage" is actually doing Twitter a favor or not.

Maybe he will have lawyers lining up pro-bono to defend him, maybe he won't, and have to spend money to defend himself. Considering Twitter has a lot more money to burn than this guy, I think we all agree if Twitter press charges, sue him, take him to court, successful or not, it can make life very difficult for this guy, right? So how is this exactly a good thing for this guy? Not to mention that I think some company will not hire him from this - I know I would not. This is not a behavior that should be rewarded imo.

I wonder how this will play out in court, if it goes that far. IMO feels a little like Robin Hood: your honor, I only rob the bank so I can give the money to the poor. If one use this type of argument, then he will not end up in jail? I think not :)

Lets go back to the topic at hand, ok?  :D

Three paragraphs about whether the Twitter quitter's actions will get him in trouble, and then "Let's get back to the topic at hand"?  I can support "Let's get back to the topic", but not "Here's my opinion, you guys can't give yours."

I wasn't going to comment until now.  Here goes:

1. This thread is for epic FU money stories.  The original poster stipulated that the money part is unknown.  Arguments against the Twitter quitter have basically been "she's wrong" or "she'll be in trouble" or "I wouldn't hire her"... but no one has asserted it isn't epic.
2. Regardless of what side of the aisle you're on, if quitting your job makes thousands of random people on the internet talk about it, and your feat involves the Leader of The Free World, it's probably epic.
3. If that one's not epic, the bar's being set pretty high.

Also - some people fall into the Lawful Good camp, others are Chaotic Good.  Sounds to me like the Chaotic Good are arguing (between gleeful guffaws) that it's an epic prank, while the Lawful Good are harrumphing that it's Not Lawful At All.  I'm inclined to acknowledge the difference and accept the submission on the basis that the poster felt it was epic, because neither the Lawful nor Chaotic are going to agree about the specifics.  I'd rather have an inclusive thread than one that rules too many stories out.
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« Reply #1943 on: November 04, 2017, 12:34:36 PM »
.....3paragraph  snip"..........
Lets go back to the topic at hand, ok?  :D

Three paragraphs about whether the Twitter quitter's actions will get him in trouble, and then "Let's get back to the topic at hand"?  I can support "Let's get back to the topic", but not "Here's my opinion, you guys can't give yours."

yet another snip

Also - some people fall into the Lawful Good camp, others are Chaotic Good.  Sounds to me like the Chaotic Good are arguing (between gleeful guffaws) that it's an epic prank, while the Lawful Good are harrumphing that it's Not Lawful At All.  I'm inclined to acknowledge the difference and accept the submission on the basis that the poster felt it was epic, because neither the Lawful nor Chaotic are going to agree about the specifics.  I'd rather have an inclusive thread than one that rules too many stories out.

Happy to see what I perceive as a D&D reference in 2017.

+1 on the "I can support "Let's get back to the topic", but not "Here's my opinion, you guys can't give yours.""

Right or wrong, POTUS  or not ( think CEO , garden variety), still Epic, my vote.



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« Reply #1944 on: November 04, 2017, 03:06:35 PM »

Three paragraphs about whether the Twitter quitter's actions will get him in trouble, and then "Let's get back to the topic at hand"?  I can support "Let's get back to the topic", but not "Here's my opinion, you guys can't give yours."

I wasn't going to comment until now.  Here goes:

1. This thread is for epic FU money stories.  The original poster stipulated that the money part is unknown.  Arguments against the Twitter quitter have basically been "she's wrong" or "she'll be in trouble" or "I wouldn't hire her"... but no one has asserted it isn't epic.
2. Regardless of what side of the aisle you're on, if quitting your job makes thousands of random people on the internet talk about it, and your feat involves the Leader of The Free World, it's probably epic.
3. If that one's not epic, the bar's being set pretty high.

Also - some people fall into the Lawful Good camp, others are Chaotic Good.  Sounds to me like the Chaotic Good are arguing (between gleeful guffaws) that it's an epic prank, while the Lawful Good are harrumphing that it's Not Lawful At All.  I'm inclined to acknowledge the difference and accept the submission on the basis that the poster felt it was epic, because neither the Lawful nor Chaotic are going to agree about the specifics.  I'd rather have an inclusive thread than one that rules too many stories out.
+1 on all counts.  This is absolutely an epic FU money story whether you agree with the twitter employee's actions or not.  Same as that flight attendant who took a beer, opened the emergency door, and rode to freedom. 
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« Reply #1945 on: November 04, 2017, 03:40:54 PM »

Three paragraphs about whether the Twitter quitter's actions will get him in trouble, and then "Let's get back to the topic at hand"?  I can support "Let's get back to the topic", but not "Here's my opinion, you guys can't give yours."

I wasn't going to comment until now.  Here goes:

1. This thread is for epic FU money stories.  The original poster stipulated that the money part is unknown.  Arguments against the Twitter quitter have basically been "she's wrong" or "she'll be in trouble" or "I wouldn't hire her"... but no one has asserted it isn't epic.
2. Regardless of what side of the aisle you're on, if quitting your job makes thousands of random people on the internet talk about it, and your feat involves the Leader of The Free World, it's probably epic.
3. If that one's not epic, the bar's being set pretty high.

Also - some people fall into the Lawful Good camp, others are Chaotic Good.  Sounds to me like the Chaotic Good are arguing (between gleeful guffaws) that it's an epic prank, while the Lawful Good are harrumphing that it's Not Lawful At All.  I'm inclined to acknowledge the difference and accept the submission on the basis that the poster felt it was epic, because neither the Lawful nor Chaotic are going to agree about the specifics.  I'd rather have an inclusive thread than one that rules too many stories out.
+1 on all counts.  This is absolutely an epic FU money story whether you agree with the twitter employee's actions or not.  Same as that flight attendant who took a beer, opened the emergency door, and rode to freedom.

I vaguely remember something about that, but now I need to find it again.

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« Reply #1946 on: November 04, 2017, 04:46:17 PM »
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+1 on all counts.  This is absolutely an epic FU money story whether you agree with the twitter employee's actions or not.  Same as that flight attendant who took a beer, opened the emergency door, and rode to freedom.

I vaguely remember something about that, but now I need to find it again.

It was a good yarn but I think he was a recovering alcoholic so not the best in that way.
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« Reply #1947 on: November 04, 2017, 08:51:58 PM »
I'm in traveling healthcare, and because of my stash I am able to take long breaks between assignments without too much worry. Today was my last day and I got questioned about 100 times from my coworkers about what I was doing next. A few were a little wide eyed when I smiled ear to ear and said "I'm unemployed!!"

Every contract starts out promising and I think "This is a nice place! Maybe I can stay here" but then after about 3 months I am just pacing in my cage waiting to run away as soon as the door opens. And now I'm free!!!!!!!  It's not really an epic FU story, but it allows me to keep building my stash and not be afraid of the insecurity of the job schedule I have. Honestly since I graduated with my degree I have not been able to keep a full time job for more than 9 months. Not because I'm a bad employee! I still have standing offers for pretty much any job I have ever left (the fact that ALL of them are still unfilled or have high turnover should tell you something). I am just counting down the years to FIRE. But these long breaks let me breathe a little bit. And seek needed medical and dental care lol. A vacation to go to the doctor!

The plan this time is just to get a part time job over the holidays, now that my health insurance is coming through COBRA for a few months. My expenses are so low that even with a part time job I should be able to increase the 'stache.
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« Reply #1948 on: November 05, 2017, 02:49:11 AM »
Anticipatory FU story coming in:

My wife and I moved recently and last year she wasn't able to have Christmas with her family. This year, they're flying out and we'll spend some time with them; the first Christmas she'd have spent with them in a few years, and their first time visiting us.

She asked off for the 26th of December and was denied PTO - back over three months ago. So she's going to call out sick. If they fire her, so be it. It's ridiculous that with so much notice, in her line of work, she "can't" take that time off when family is in town. We've got the cash to deal with her getting fired if that's what happens. Feelsgoodman
Though it's great you guys can afford this, it's insane tht a single PTO day does not get approved, even when requested months in advance. Any decent vacation would end up including a Tuesday after all. What line of work is she in?

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« Reply #1949 on: November 05, 2017, 03:08:34 PM »
These aren't my stories but here goes.

When I worked at a newspaper in the late '90s, one of the reporters got fed up and just basically left. He said he had enough money to live on until he found something else. He was only in his 20s so I wondered how the heck he'd managed to save that much money.

This is an FU story. An online acquaintance was working for a college. Apparently her boss was a real witch, and one day, she just snapped and walked out. She really didn't have any money to speak of. The best part was: She sent a letter through the college's email system to the entire staff and faculty, telling everyone how horrible the witch was. (Update: A few years later, she is poor but happy. Inherited a little bit of money, can collect social security, and works small jobs. Just moved to the city of her dreams).

I have an online pen pal who worked in the insurance industry for a long time. She said she saved for a rainy day, and when it rained it poured. When she lost her job, she spent two years looking for another, and never found one. She never went back to work and doesn't have to. She's only 55. I wish I knew her secret...

Well, that last one really wasn't an FU story, but...