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I so enjoyed the dumb ski/winter recreational pursuits thread, sharing my pursuits and jealously hearing about what others are up to, that I decided to start one for the other seasons.

So share your dumb outdoor stuff with others, even if it's expensive and/or not very Mustachian.

I'll kick things off by sharing that I'm having a blast on my new mountain bike. I maintain my bikes and got 12 years of heavy use from my previously full suspension bike (2012 Tallboy Long-Travel), riding 2-3x/week ~9 months/year. So while initially expensive, the total cost over the lifetime usage is relatively low.

My old bike, while maintained, was starting to show its age and I was chronically over-biked (travel and geometry) -- with age I'm doing less downhilly stuff and more flowy and longer rides with more climbing. So the day after getting my latest clean bill of health (short version: cancer, thankfully still in remission), I ordered a new Tallboy, a short-travel trail bike. I'm not really a Santa Cruz loyalist, it's just one of the few brands that sells XXL bikes (I'm very tall) and their carbon layup process is tailored for each size. Their XXL bikes, unlike other brands I've tested, don't feel like a wet noodle under heavy load. And while a bit heavier than others, they are very durable. The shorter travel along with overall more centered/upright geometry is fantastic for my style of riding.

I live in the North End of Boise, and we have a pretty amazing 200+ mile network of trails a few blocks from my house. I almost never drive to a trailhead unless I want to change things up. My typical short ride is about 10 miles with 1000' of climbing and takes about an hour. Starting to add a longer ride per week in the 20 miles range with 2500-3000 feet of climbing, which usually takes a little under 3 hours. Hoping to build towards a longer 40 mile loop with around 5000' of climbing this summer/fall.

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River levels are too high right now with spring runoff to wade/fly fish safely, by late June levels should come down. In the meantime, have some pond/like fishing with my dad planned.

Hoping to get in a few backpacking trips, but out here this isn't realistic until more of the snow is gone, late June at the earliest. I did a couple trips last summer, but was recovering from surgery and chemo so these were on the shorter side (5-6 miles in). Ideally would like to visit some places I've really enjoyed in the past that are about 12 miles in with a lot of elevation gain. All the mountain biking should help with this :)

What are you up to or have planned?
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Re: Dumb outdoor Spring/Summer/Fall recreational pursuits - 2024 Edition
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2024, 10:11:25 AM »
The best part about being FI/CoastFI for me is I get to spend a lot of time outside in the summer and indulge my hobbies.

Road cycling - by definition the most mustachian hobby, usually go 3-4 times a week with one or two group rides. My city is very well connected by trails and there's a large federal park with great climbing 20km from my door. This is completely free aside from regular maintenance which I do myself, and of course after the upfront cost of the bike.

Golfing - a most unmustachian hobby but I love it. Not too bad maybe 40-50 for a round at an 18-hole municipal course, skip the powered carts of course. But I'm just as content just shooting a bucket at the range for $7. Once or twice a week.

Hiking - completely free, just the gas to get you there. 1-2 times a week. Some road trips peppered here and there during the summer to hike at higher elevations or some further away provincial parks, will usually camp there.

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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2024, 12:25:42 PM »
Ooh I like this idea. I haven’t had the chance to read through the other thread yet, but a big part of my FI pursuit is to continue my recreational enjoyments without the burden of a typical work schedule.

MTB is on my list as well. Coming up on two years of owning a nice Kona hardtail, I’ll be out most of the summer on our local trails. I live in Mississippi, so no mountains and lots of hot weather, but mornings in the summer offer some amazing solo biking on nice trails. The best part is my DS, who just turned two in march, is already killing it on the balance bike and moving to pedals. He wakes up every morning ready to go outside with only his bike and a diaper. We leave for a week long trip in May to explore the central California coast. I’ve already found some great trails and found way to haul the kid’s balance bike in my backpack. Can’t wait.


Hurricane season is between June and the end of October here in the South, so I’ll be spending some good days surfing as the bigger storms roll through. I grew up surfing in Southern California, but honestly the crowd-less beaches during the storms are much preferred for me.


Summer trail running is always a big change around here. 90%+ humidity and 90°+ temps make it a sufferable event, but still get out a few days a week. Last summer I trained for my third 50 miler, but this summer I’ll just be out for fun since I have some other pursuits for now.

Lastly, I’ll be competing in jiu jitsu for the 4th summer in a row. I’ll end up down two weight classes and up a belt level, so I have been putting in some concentrated efforts to improve. Not necessarily outdoors, but still an activity I’ll be heavily involved in as long as I can.

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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2024, 02:54:07 PM »
My pursuits are tailored around the kids.

Backpacking this summer would be great. Some canoeing is in order. Maybe a canoe overnight at a primitive campsite. Biking maybe, I don’t have a bike though, not really a problem to get an unwanted one.  The kids want to bike.

I will do some above treeline hikes without the kids.

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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2024, 04:55:48 PM »
Gardening.

We’re planning some camping and a trip to a water park and bike rides and stuff, but mainly it’s gardening.

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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2024, 05:11:58 PM »
Currently contemplating a new pack in the 30L range.  I have a 55L and a running vest, but I’m thinking I want something in between.

Oh and gardening.  My Balcony is finished last week, I have a new raised bed and some weather tech mats to protect said balcony on order.  It will be a nice $400 watermelon I’m sure.
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2024, 06:06:52 PM »
I have a few of expensive outdoor things.
 
I garden with a friend on another friends property. I spend at least $400 a year on this adventure. But I am still eating the squash from last year so I guess that is not that bad cost wise. On the stove now is a pot of pumpkin lentil curry.

We backpack. Once the gear was bought the cost to go out is not that high. But we take our 13 year old and her gear is going to need to be accessed this year as we are pretty sure she has outgrown a few things. And if we want to take weight out of our packs and make her carry her stuff she might need some lighter gear.

We paddle board and kayak.  This year we bought dry bags to put our backpacking gear into and we are going to kayak camp a few times.

We also bike Both hubby and I have a road bike and a mnb bike each. I do not think the teen will need a new bike as she only has one that is more on the hybrid end of bikes to not save on cost...but we do not have space in the garage to store another bike.

We also day hike a lot so we do go through gear that way too. I am always needing to replace my hiking pants, or hiking boots for one reason or another. I am just hard on my gear.


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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2024, 05:39:56 AM »
I try my hardest not to do dumb stuff. The general motto is to know what I like and do more of it.

Just got back north from a nice south Florida winter season—life is a biking-all-year-long thing for me now. 250 road bike miles a month in the winter and 350 road/mountain/touring/fat-tire miles in the spring, summer, and fall. I have started supplementing biking with kayaking and seem to be able to squeeze in about 9 months’ worth a year. Still renting them tho, so I still feel like a voyeur.

Getting back home also means a return to civilization, with more concerts, theater, lectures, long walks in Manhattan, and quality time with old friends.  I treat Florida as a nature habitat; beach everyday, walk vs. drive, salads and poke bowls for dinner. Back home it’s planes, trains, and automobiles—with BBQs, old haunt restaurants, and REAL bagles and pizza.

Life is tough…

Florida, January through April, offers a nice balance in retirement. And winter sports was never my thing so.

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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2024, 08:32:29 AM »
Love hearing what you all are up to this year. Keep 'em coming :)

And I enjoy learning about what folks are doing in different locations. There's fun and interesting stuff to do everywhere, seems like the key is enjoying a place on its own terms. E.g. hurricane season being great for surfing in the South is not something that ever occurred to me, but makes sense.

And it seems like Mountain Biking can be done in most locations, even if there are no mountains to speak of. Guessing everyone already knows about this, but MTB Project is a great resource for finding trails and the phone app works really well off-line. As much as I enjoy a good climb, my favorite trails are more undulating flowy trails vs. steep and fast descents.

RE water sports: We have so many rivers around us that we've thought about getting into whitewater SUP. Have borrowed boards a couple times and it was fun. Just not sure if I should add yet another hobby. Seems like I'm trying to collect them all, LOL.

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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2024, 08:40:55 AM »
I've been doing a lot of hiking since we got our dog last spring.  Sundays we try to do at least ten to fifteen km, although the boy has been complaining a lot recently so I might start bringing his bike so he can just ride around the trails rather than having to stay on his feet the whole time.  Lot of ticks in this area now that never used to be around ten years ago.

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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2024, 08:48:08 AM »
We will hike, bike, run, trail run, kayak, pickleball, all of which are free or nearly so...and sail (the least mustachian thing we do).

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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2024, 09:44:04 AM »
Let's see, I'll plan to mountain bike with my dad & the teens. I'm hiking with my mom in Sedona next week, and then in Moab in September with a friend. Will definitely plan to SUP & kayak this summer as well.

We just started playing pickleball, but I can see us getting more interested in that, and finding a local court to play on.

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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2024, 09:57:04 AM »
Early April, I did a solo 2 week mixed backpacking & hiking trip to the Grand Canyon, Zion & Bryce NPs.  Rental car was the biggest expense, then hotels.  Flights were covered by redeeming miles.
I try to get out at least 2x week mtn biking, not always easy here with the amount of rain we get.    I also like to walk the trails with maintenance tools-saws, cutters, McLeod etc to basically do my own volunteering while hiking. 
Hoping to get some WW kayaking in.  Bought a used boat several years ago & have not been able to get much time for it.   Same with getting more time packrafting.   Hope to find some bike or hike in & packraft out trails near me.    I have pretty much all the gear I need at this point, so most of the $ is in transporation to/from. 

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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2024, 12:33:26 PM »
Not really limited to non-winter seasons where I live, but certainly a ton of mountain biking, and some kayaking.  Also hiking, but hard to call that dumb with near-zero cost to it, especially since a lot of the hiking I do is right out my front or back door. 

Mountain biking would be the most 'dumb' from a Mustachian sense.  I almost never drive to hit the trails, so at least there's no car expense on top of it, but in addition to my regular MTB (purchased used, thankfully), I splurged and bought an eMTB this year.  The eMTB has unfortunately been in the shop with a warranty issue for more than half of the time I owned it...don't get me started...but that has at least forced me to get back into shape with many rides on the regular MTB, chasing 2-4 e-bikers around the mountain on most rides.  Out of shape because of less frequent riding in the winter.

I'm not one to spend tons of money on upgrades, at least, so the big MTB cost is the initial purchase, then minor maintenance costs, most of which I do myself.

Kayaking used to get about half of my outdoor activity time, but MTB has encroached on that quite a bit, partially due to the social aspects, as I have plenty of MTB buddies but nobody I kayak with regularly.  Another issue with kayaking is that I need a car to hit the water, unlike my ability to ride to the trailhead.  As we're a one-car family, that means I have to work around family schedules to kayak.

However, I will admit to my current lust being kayak-related, as I've had my eye on a surfski kayak for the past year, specifically a model that's more beginner friendly, the Epic v8.  They just released a model that really caught my eye, the v8 Tourer, which has storage capacity like a touring kayak, but otherwise is just like the regular surfski.  As I have aspirations in the direction of overnight trips and kayak camping, but also like speed and fitness paddling, it's just so tempting....but also dumb.

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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2024, 06:55:16 PM »
My greatest outdoor-related financial risk is wildlife photography since that's my newest pursuit and the one I am most under-equipped for.  I would like to upgrade to a mirrorless camera but that is going to have to wait.  Meanwhile, I am probably not all that held back by the mostly-used but quality equipment I acquired last year.

I will say that wildlife photography has led to a greater appreciation of the natural world which makes our other outdoor activities more interesting.  I am a bit disappointed that I waited so long to get interested but that's water under the bridge.

We will of-course be canoeing, kayaking, mountain biking, hiking, and camping as usual but are well-equipped for all those so it's a sunk cost.  I agree with the notion that good camping gear pays dividends if you use it instead of hotels when traveling and camping is preferable from my point of view.

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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2024, 06:15:50 AM »
Currently disassembling and reassembling my mountain bikes into fun new configurations while I wait for the trails to dry out.   




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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2024, 06:19:10 AM »
My greatest outdoor-related financial risk is wildlife photography since that's my newest pursuit and the one I am most under-equipped for. 

That is a great shot!   

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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2024, 07:48:09 AM »
I'm mostly into camping.  Sometimes I do backpacking, but I'm leaning more towards car-camping this summer.  I'm in the mood for more of a road-trip exploration, but combined with sleeping under the stars.

I have a solo-trip planned this summer that includes Black Canyon of the Gunnison, Valley of the Gods, Bridges National Monument, and Colorado National Monument.  All in an EV. 

I'm at the awkward age with kids where I want to start taking them on more adventurous outings, but they're not quite ready yet.  I took my 11 year old on her first backpacking trip last summer.  She had the energy to hike in about 1.5 miles.  It was fun and a good father/daughter experience, but it's still very different than what I'd do on my own.  I'd like to add Mountain Biking or some type of kayaking/rafting, but my 7 year old doesn't quite have the swimming skills for that yet. 

I'm very open to suggestions on adventures that work well for both parents and kids.  I seem to be in a rut, as the process of getting past kids whining and moaning takes enough joy out of these adventures that I don't try as much as I should. 

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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2024, 08:34:37 AM »
I'm at the awkward age with kids where I want to start taking them on more adventurous outings, but they're not quite ready yet.  I took my 11 year old on her first backpacking trip last summer.  She had the energy to hike in about 1.5 miles.  It was fun and a good father/daughter experience, but it's still very different than what I'd do on my own.  I'd like to add Mountain Biking or some type of kayaking/rafting, but my 7 year old doesn't quite have the swimming skills for that yet. 

I'm very open to suggestions on adventures that work well for both parents and kids.  I seem to be in a rut, as the process of getting past kids whining and moaning takes enough joy out of these adventures that I don't try as much as I should.

What has worked for us for backpacking with the kids: Keep the hike in short and easy (you're already doing this). Go to a destination with fun stuff to do, e.g. a lake or river/stream with swimming hole, fishing. Bring fun stuff for the kids, like s'mores/dessert, lightweight card games, inflatable watercraft, backpacking hammock (surprisingly popular with my kids), etc. Bring food they like, even if a bit heavy (another reason to keep the distance and duration short). Go with friends or a close cousin, the goal here is for them to have other kids to play with, but also to rope in parent(s) to help hike in gear and help at camp. As you say, not quite the same as your typical backpacking trip, but a ton of fun, and if the kids have fun they'll be more open to bigger trips as they get older.

ETA: Your kids are an ideal age for road trip and the National Parks. I think the key is to keep the drives under about 5-6 hrs. Good snacks for in the car. Audio books. Activity books. Keep camp simple: tent, a couple chairs, and simple cooking setup (I prefer a single storage container with all the kitchen stuff). Simple meals like tacos, burgers, etc. Mix in some cheap motels with pools, visit local swimming holes, or even add in the occasional water slide park or other attraction along the way. Oh, and if any of the parks you're visiting have a grand dining room, book a reservation and bring some appropriate clothing, and enjoy a fancy dinner together.
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« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2024, 09:17:24 AM »
In 2023 I narrowly achieved a goal of "5x500:" 500 miles each of:
  • Road bike - Piece of cake...my favorite of the activities. Also helps when you knock out 100 miles in one day
  • Mountain Bike - Started out as trail riding specific, but morphed into riding the mountain bike on city streets, often pulling my youngest on his trailer bike. We've got a surprising variety of nice trails around here, but time was a factor
  • Running - I've never enjoyed "distance" running, but it is starting to grow on me as a forced habit.
  • Walking - Seems simple on the surface, but I only counted specific walks/hikes >1 mile that I deemed worthy as an activity. Procrastinated a bit and walked a lot in December...
  • (Indoor) Rowing - Picked up a Concept 2 during the pandemic, and nearing the 3-million meter mark. Especially great in the dark/winter. I'd love to one day do some real rowing, but there are some big barriers to entry

For 2024, I've got similar, but less prescriptive goals:
  • Total Mileage - 2,500 mi
  • Activity Hours - 366 (1 hr/day).
  • Biking - 2,000,000 meters (1,243 mi). My choice on how to distribute between mountain/road
  • Running - 1,000,000 meters (622 mi).
  • (Indoor) Rowing - 1,000,000 meters (622 mi).

Starting in June, I've been approved to work part-time (3x8hr). So looking forward to the more favorable work-life balance to fit in my own activities without feeling like I am trading off family time. Some other things I've got planned for this year:

  • Summer ultimate frisbee league - Love this, and will keep doing as long as I am able. My wife plays as well. I'm definitely starting to feel more like an old man playing a young mans game...but that doesn't stop me from trying too hard. Lost a toenail and sprained an ankle last year, as well as lots of turf burn from diving recklessly for uncatchable discs.
  • Fishing trip to Canada - this is an annual weeklong family tradition. My Grandpa started going with my dad 49 years ago. Fairly remote camping...we usually don't see another person from the time we leave the highway.
  • Family camping trips. We've got 3 planned so far, and are planning some more.
  • My wife and I entered the lottery to backback the Crand Canyon in September. Fingers crossed.

I'm mostly into camping.  Sometimes I do backpacking, but I'm leaning more towards car-camping this summer.  I'm in the mood for more of a road-trip exploration, but combined with sleeping under the stars.

I have a solo-trip planned this summer that includes Black Canyon of the Gunnison, Valley of the Gods, Bridges National Monument, and Colorado National Monument.  All in an EV. 

I'm at the awkward age with kids where I want to start taking them on more adventurous outings, but they're not quite ready yet.  I took my 11 year old on her first backpacking trip last summer.  She had the energy to hike in about 1.5 miles.  It was fun and a good father/daughter experience, but it's still very different than what I'd do on my own.  I'd like to add Mountain Biking or some type of kayaking/rafting, but my 7 year old doesn't quite have the swimming skills for that yet. 

I'm very open to suggestions on adventures that work well for both parents and kids.  I seem to be in a rut, as the process of getting past kids whining and moaning takes enough joy out of these adventures that I don't try as much as I should.

I hear you on the kids! Also interested in ideas. Ages 8, 8, and 6 here. They enjoy being outside, but when it comes to things like hiking, it can be a big struggle. Biggest hurdle is getting all three on board with starting in the first place...usually once we're out they have a good time. I've resorted to letting then have Pepsi as an incentive to get out the door :) They much prefer to climb on logs, build forts, play in creeks, etc. than actually hike.

Sports were a big part of my life growing up, but my kids have minimal interest so far. We have tried a few organized sports, but nothing has stuck, and we definitely aren't pushing them into anything they aren't interested in. Currently they do a weekly climbing class at the indoor climbing gym which they seem to like. I offer to play catch, go watch local high school sports events, etc. quite a bit. They rarely take me up on it, but we did go to a track meet last week. Oftentimes we bring a football or frisbee to neighborhood playgrounds. My kids end up doing their own thing while I play catch with other random kids.
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« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2024, 08:35:51 PM »
With snow season over I've been riding my bikes a lot. Managed a short bike tour two weeks ago, organized a gravel/ATB group ride this weekend and rode my mountain bikes a lot in between.

I've got to fly east and visit my mom for two weeks. Once I'm back I'm going to ramp up my trail running and skateboarding now that snowboarding isn't taking up a bunch of my time. I've got a couple weekend mountain bike campout events I am organizing in May and June. I've also got quite a few mountain bike/trail running events I am volunteering at throughout the summer.

My goal for 2023 was to not get injured as I lost a bunch of sporty time in 2022 with injuries and the related recovery. My going with the same goal for 2024. So far so good. Without getting hurt my fitness has stayed high and there hasn't been a real low point and rebuild. I've been worried about the opposite issue so I've been building in as many rest days as I can manage.

I'm looking forward to a great summer.

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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2024, 07:34:35 AM »
I so enjoyed the dumb ski/winter recreational pursuits thread, sharing my pursuits and jealously hearing about what others are up to, that I decided to start one for the other seasons.

So share your dumb outdoor stuff with others, even if it's expensive and/or not very Mustachian.

I'll kick things off by sharing that I'm having a blast on my new mountain bike. I maintain my bikes and got 12 years of heavy use from my previously full suspension bike (2012 Tallboy Long-Travel), riding 2-3x/week ~9 months/year. So while initially expensive, the total cost over the lifetime usage is relatively low.

My old bike, while maintained, was starting to show its age and I was chronically over-biked (travel and geometry) -- with age I'm doing less downhilly stuff and more flowy and longer rides with more climbing. So the day after getting my latest clean bill of health (short version: cancer, thankfully still in remission), I ordered a new Tallboy, a short-travel trail bike. I'm not really a Santa Cruz loyalist, it's just one of the few brands that sells XXL bikes (I'm very tall) and their carbon layup process is tailored for each size. Their XXL bikes, unlike other brands I've tested, don't feel like a wet noodle under heavy load. And while a bit heavier than others, they are very durable. The shorter travel along with overall more centered/upright geometry is fantastic for my style of riding.

I live in the North End of Boise, and we have a pretty amazing 200+ mile network of trails a few blocks from my house. I almost never drive to a trailhead unless I want to change things up. My typical short ride is about 10 miles with 1000' of climbing and takes about an hour. Starting to add a longer ride per week in the 20 miles range with 2500-3000 feet of climbing, which usually takes a little under 3 hours. Hoping to build towards a longer 40 mile loop with around 5000' of climbing this summer/fall.


Same as you. I'm in Northwest Arkansas, and have a few mountain bikes. I have my regular FS Rocky Mountain Instinct for group rides and then when I go out by myself I usually just take my Levo SL. Unfortunately because of kids sports this spring I haven't been out nearly as much as I'd like. Hoping to get out a lot more in May as soccer wraps up and we just have summer ice hockey.

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« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2024, 07:36:21 AM »
I've been fishing a lot, specifically salmon fishing in the lower Columbia River.
I'm waiting for a new hip (in August!) so I can't do a lot, but I can damn sure sit in my boat all day.

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« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2024, 07:54:18 AM »
I'm thinking fishing and biking are kid friendly.  These seem the most similar to downhill skiing to me and we had success downhill this winter with kids 7, 6 and 4.

I was 10 when I started overnights with my dad.  We did 6-10 mile days and stayed at the AMC huts in the whites.  One night.  I can't think what it was about it that made me want to do it. As suppose I have always liked hiking, but it has almost always been type 2 fun except for the rare occasions I have been in good physical condition.

I'll try some hikes with the kids this year, but I am wary of needing to meet any type of schedule.

Mountain biking is seeming more and more acceptable to me. I have resisted it for a long time. But the kids will probably love it.

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« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2024, 08:02:41 AM »
No kids here, but I was one once a long time ago and that's when I first fell in love with the outdoors. I think the thing that did it was it was an opportunity to take my first tottering steps towards personal freedom. Biking, hiking, and camping were opportunities to go do stuff with minimal adult supervision. Was also a member of an amazing boy scout troop- the adults let us plan all the trips. They stayed pretty hands off and just drove us around and kept us (mostly) in check.  Got to do some amazing things that would sill be really fun for me today. 

Then I got a driver's license at 16 and things when sort of sideways for a bit, but I'm better now.  (Biked in to work today in light rain, 38F)   

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Re: Dumb outdoor Spring/Summer/Fall recreational pursuits - 2024 Edition
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2024, 08:39:37 AM »
I'm thinking fishing and biking are kid friendly.  These seem the most similar to downhill skiing to me and we had success downhill this winter with kids 7, 6 and 4.

YMMV on fishing.  I always found it boring as a kid so was surprised when my son (10) said he wanted to try fishing.  Took him out a few times . . . he's good for a few minutes of casting, and then gets bored.  :P

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Re: Dumb outdoor Spring/Summer/Fall recreational pursuits - 2024 Edition
« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2024, 08:55:44 AM »
I'm thinking fishing and biking are kid friendly.  These seem the most similar to downhill skiing to me and we had success downhill this winter with kids 7, 6 and 4.

YMMV on fishing.  I always found it boring as a kid so was surprised when my son (10) said he wanted to try fishing.  Took him out a few times . . . he's good for a few minutes of casting, and then gets bored.  :P

Similar experience for me.  My kids enjoyed it for about 10 minutes and lost interest.

I also struggle with the patience side of fishing.  I wish I was the type of person that enjoyed it, but I’ve come to the realization that it’s just not my thing. 

My mom asked to do a broader family “Dude ranch” experience for her 75th about a year from now.  I’m kind of looking forward to it, as it will surely involve some outdoor activities that I wouldn’t otherwise try.  Flyfishing will probably be one of them. 

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Re: Dumb outdoor Spring/Summer/Fall recreational pursuits - 2024 Edition
« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2024, 08:59:54 AM »
On the other hand, from age 6-12ish, fishing was the pinnacle of all activities for me.  I *loved* fishing. You could get me up at 5am to go sit in a boat for hours without issue.

I don't know exactly when or how I lost interest, but now I've got a pretty good trout stream literally in my backyard and well.... did you know you can just go to the store and buy fresh fish and it's already cleaned and everything?   

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Re: Dumb outdoor Spring/Summer/Fall recreational pursuits - 2024 Edition
« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2024, 12:44:43 PM »
Kids are way more likely to enjoy fishing if they, you know, actually catch fish. Bait fishing for bluegill/sunfish is a great way to have fun with the kids. And since they're kids it doesn't need to be a long activity, an hour or less at the end of a dock or from a boat. Hooks, bobbers, worms... easy.

Or, backpack to a lake which usually means way better fishing. My daughters love throwing spinners in high alpine lakes for trout. They think it's fun to help clean the fish, and they love eating the fillets fried up in some olive oil. My oldest particularly loves eating the crispy skin.

For small trout streams nothing beats the simplicity and fun of a Tenkara rod and a fly. Fling the fly above pools and let it cascade down to the trout.
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Re: Dumb outdoor Spring/Summer/Fall recreational pursuits - 2024 Edition
« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2024, 01:50:52 PM »
I'm sorry . . . but in my experience, 'fishing' rarely involves catching fish.  The people who seem to enjoy it seem only tangentially interested in fish.  And props to you if you catch fish in an hour or less every time you go out.  I've only had that kind of success rate with blasting caps, but dad always told me this was cheating.

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Re: Dumb outdoor Spring/Summer/Fall recreational pursuits - 2024 Edition
« Reply #30 on: April 29, 2024, 02:33:22 PM »
I'm sorry . . . but in my experience, 'fishing' rarely involves catching fish.  The people who seem to enjoy it seem only tangentially interested in fish.  And props to you if you catch fish in an hour or less every time you go out.  I've only had that kind of success rate with blasting caps, but dad always told me this was cheating.

I've been fishing my entire life, so that may have something to do with it. And Idaho has pretty good fishing if you know where to go.

Easily accessible lakes get a lot of pressure and are often difficult to fish. I can usually catch a couple in such places, often on the smaller side, but the fishing is slow.

If I hike several miles to a lake I'll almost always catch fish very easily. Like, catch my limit in less than an hour, though I'm usually catch-and-release except one or two for dinner. A lot is knowing where to fish and with what. I can generally look at an Alpine lake, things like the surrounding topology, inlets, and underwater structure and have a pretty good sense where to fish. Season, time of day, and water color influence what I fish with. Sometimes a lake will stump me at first, but with trial and error I figure it out and start catching consistently.

Lake fishing is fun, but fly fishing has become my favorite summer/fall obsession. Reading a river is really a lot of fun, and is very technical and involves knowing the local ecosystem. Looking for seams in the current, boulders, holes... anything that might make for a good spot for a fish to hang out and eat what the current brings. And then knowing insect hatches, which can change hourly. Things like inspecting what's flying around, looking under rocks to see what kind of aquatic insects are there, paying attention to activity in the river, and selecting flies that match. Then wading around to find the right approaches. It's very active, and once I figured out some of the pieces I started catching fish in the Boise River in town, which is nice because I bike there. I can usually catch at least 1 fish per hour, but have had quite a few days of 5-6 per hour.
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Re: Dumb outdoor Spring/Summer/Fall recreational pursuits - 2024 Edition
« Reply #31 on: April 29, 2024, 05:08:53 PM »
Around here fishing can be as easy or as hard as you want to make it. Catching the easy fish isn't hugely rewarding, but it's fun in the same way eating ice cream is. Great up to a point. The challenging fish take a lot more time vs. fish on the line, but each fish feels more amazing based on the effort put into the "hunt".

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Re: Dumb outdoor Spring/Summer/Fall recreational pursuits - 2024 Edition
« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2024, 10:43:05 AM »
Spring in the Alaskan temperate rainforest we live in means joining friends on their boats fishing for Spot Prawns and Dungeness Crab, hunting Sooty Grouse, fly fishing for Steelhead, and of course my favorite activity; hiking, hiking, and more hiking. Summer time will be fishing for salmon and halibut, hiking further up into the mountains as the snowpack recedes, Inca Trail in Peru w/ our reluctant to travel teenagers, hunting for Black Tail deer, and gardening. No clear plans for Fall other than an interior AK moose hunt in October. And I'd love to squeeze in a hiking trip to SW Utah sometime in the Fall.

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Re: Dumb outdoor Spring/Summer/Fall recreational pursuits - 2024 Edition
« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2024, 10:50:11 AM »

I'm at the awkward age with kids where I want to start taking them on more adventurous outings, but they're not quite ready yet.  I took my 11 year old on her first backpacking trip last summer.  She had the energy to hike in about 1.5 miles.  It was fun and a good father/daughter experience, but it's still very different than what I'd do on my own.  I'd like to add Mountain Biking or some type of kayaking/rafting, but my 7 year old doesn't quite have the swimming skills for that yet. 

I'm very open to suggestions on adventures that work well for both parents and kids.  I seem to be in a rut, as the process of getting past kids whining and moaning takes enough joy out of these adventures that I don't try as much as I should.

We've had a bunch of fun doing canoe trips with our kids and their friends about that age. Kids favorite was a fall canoe trip of Labyrinth Canyon down the Green River in UT over 5 days. Tex's Riverways will set you up!

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« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2024, 11:18:27 AM »
I'm at the awkward age with kids where I want to start taking them on more adventurous outings, but they're not quite ready yet.  I took my 11 year old on her first backpacking trip last summer.  She had the energy to hike in about 1.5 miles.  It was fun and a good father/daughter experience, but it's still very different than what I'd do on my own.  I'd like to add Mountain Biking or some type of kayaking/rafting, but my 7 year old doesn't quite have the swimming skills for that yet. 

I'm very open to suggestions on adventures that work well for both parents and kids.  I seem to be in a rut, as the process of getting past kids whining and moaning takes enough joy out of these adventures that I don't try as much as I should.

Uhh, what? Maybe you jumped into it too quick? Work up to it. We do some sort of hike with the kids about weekly, and "family walk" around the neightborhood multiple times per week. Of course a "hike" with the kids can be as little as a mile.. But my 6 year old daughter has done ~6 miles (no pack), per my gps watch. I remember because I was surprised..lol. She's usually is ok doing at least 4+ miles, and did 5 mi for her first backpack trip, at about 5 yo. Of course I carry most of the stuff, but give her a small pack with a few things. And since we're only hiking a 'kid distance' I don't mind if my pack is closer to 40-50 lb.

I plan to take my 9 year old on a backpack trip just the two of us soon, and expect he should be able to do at least 7-8 mi (about 1mi/age), with a "real" backpack with some light stuff in it.

Not much to do about the moaning unfortunately. Sometimes it happens, sometimes they're fine. Do it often. Have snacks/rewards. Make it fun, engage them in the planning, map reading etc. Have a goal (e.g. they always enjoy getting to an AT shelter. So; "it's just around the corner..")

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« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2024, 11:49:35 AM »
I'm at the awkward age with kids where I want to start taking them on more adventurous outings, but they're not quite ready yet.  I took my 11 year old on her first backpacking trip last summer.  She had the energy to hike in about 1.5 miles.

Was she carrying too much weight, could you take half of her load?  My 6 year old can easily hike 1.5 miles, so I'm thinking for an 11 year old it must have been weight or crazy terrain.

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« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2024, 12:30:37 PM »
Without a deep freeze winter here in Tennessee, we cycle through most sports year round.
Spring brings on family river trips (canoe, kayak, and raft depending on the river)
Mountain Biking is year round, so much good trail around here.  Good call on the new Tallboy OP, I have one, and if I had to have just one bike, that'd be it hands down. 
I've been ramping up the running (especially trail) this season as I've fallen in with a good crew of like minded folks who also run
and finally, we've been rock climbing indoor and outdoor as a family at least 3-4 times a month.
We're fortunate enough to live in a great area with jobs that have a little flexibility.  I try and get out and do something for at least an hour 5x a week. 

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Re: Dumb outdoor Spring/Summer/Fall recreational pursuits - 2024 Edition
« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2024, 04:55:38 PM »
I'm at the awkward age with kids where I want to start taking them on more adventurous outings, but they're not quite ready yet.  I took my 11 year old on her first backpacking trip last summer.  She had the energy to hike in about 1.5 miles.

Was she carrying too much weight, could you take half of her load?  My 6 year old can easily hike 1.5 miles, so I'm thinking for an 11 year old it must have been weight or crazy terrain.

I carried most of it.  We weighed her pack at 10-15lbs if I remember correctly.  I felt it was appropriate at the time.

It was a slight uphill.  I think it was mostly because it was an uncomfortably warm day.

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« Reply #38 on: May 02, 2024, 03:14:13 PM »
I'm at the awkward age with kids where I want to start taking them on more adventurous outings, but they're not quite ready yet.  I took my 11 year old on her first backpacking trip last summer.  She had the energy to hike in about 1.5 miles.

Was she carrying too much weight, could you take half of her load?  My 6 year old can easily hike 1.5 miles, so I'm thinking for an 11 year old it must have been weight or crazy terrain.

I carried most of it.  We weighed her pack at 10-15lbs if I remember correctly.  I felt it was appropriate at the time.

It was a slight uphill.  I think it was mostly because it was an uncomfortably warm day.

If you know to expect 1.5 miles, find a hike where there's something cool in 1.5 miles. That's on you, to do the planning so the weakest member of your group has fun.

Our kids are now older, but some things we did with them:
Loads of walking when they were small. Some hikes. Our first (and regular: once or twice/year, sometimes with friends) backpacking trip with them was a SHORT access hike: something like 1.5 miles (and, er, 1500 vertical feet) up a mostly dis-used trail into a hanging valley that hardly anyone knows about. So for the cost of a 45 minute drive and a bunch of challenging hauling of gear for the parents, we got into a mostly-empty backcountry valley.  Some years DH made two trips to get all the stuff up there. (Some years we were carrying an toddler, along with all the camping gear for our family...)

They did a bunch of camps focused on wilderness skills, and we learned what games were played there. Once we got to our backpacking site and got set up, multiple rounds of "predator" were played. (It basically involves sneaking up on "it" -- the first round you have to hide yourself so "it" can't see you, then "it" closes his/her eyes and you have to try to sneak up and touch them. If "it" points directly at you (because s/he can hear you) you're out.) We spotted stuff (fish! plants! mushrooms! once, a Moose that was way-the-heck too close!). We hiked nearby "peaks" in the range that surrounded our valley. We lay out at night and spotted stars and planets. We let the kids do all the talking they wanted, and took advantage of the opportunity to hear what they were thinking about without distractions. We let them wander off and have alone time, if that's what they wanted.

We also took our kids on twice/annual ski trips to backcountry huts. Again, the parents hauled immense loads when the kids were small, but it meant that once we got there we had plenty of food, some games to play, a kid-sized potty seat (they have outhouses ... and in our defense, we only did that once, when a kid was potty-training at just the wrong moment..) After the kids were no longer tiny we stopped towing them in, but they had a deal with my DH who was pulling a cargo toboggan -- he'd tow them on the flat sections, they had to walk (it was snowshoes at that point) on the steeper bits. We hauled in their downhill ski gear, so they could ski out. Ultimately, they were upgraded to various versions of backcountry gear, so they could go up and down on the same equipment... Some years friends came with us. Some years, friends and their families came with us. A couple of times the weather or situation turned bad, and we had to turn around.

The moral of this storytelling: do whatever you need to so that it's fun for the kids. Make up stories and tell them around the campfire! Invent appropriate-scale adventures. Haul ALL the stuff yourself: the recommendation is that kids should start out carrying less than 10% of their bodyweight, and if that's too much, they should drop down further. Make very sure that they have what they need to be comfortable (yes, for small kids this means carrying an entire change of clothes in case they fall in a creek). Make sure there are ample tasty treats. Train ahead of time with them, so that you (and they) know that they can handle the physical part. (There's a peak that overlooks our town, so we started out by hiking up that. With cookies!)

(Now our "kids" are 20 and 23, and on our Christmas hut trip in 2023 they carried greater than 50% of the weight. In fact, I handed off a (decanted, I'm not an idiot) bottle of wine to the older one halfway in, when he asked why I was sl slow.)

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Re: Dumb outdoor Spring/Summer/Fall recreational pursuits - 2024 Edition
« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2024, 08:24:08 AM »
Just got back from a hiking trip to Sedona, and definitely want to go back. On this trip, I was with my 71 year old mom, who is in amazing shape. We hiked for three days (stayed in a condo, this wasn't a camping trip) & got in plenty of hikes, including an accidental 13 miler.

For May, I'm planning to run 70+ miles, if possible, as I'm training for a relay this summer. And, get in 3 hikes locally.

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« Reply #40 on: May 06, 2024, 02:39:45 PM »
Camped near Sevierville, TN. Hiked near Elkmont this past weekend. Want to do much more soon.

Not likely to backpack anytime soon as I need to get my fitness sorted but I'll car camp anytime, anywhere (that isn't too hot, I have problems with heat).

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« Reply #41 on: May 07, 2024, 11:46:44 AM »
This year is going to be fairly low key.  I play my last hockey game of the season this coming Sunday.  I've got my fishing license and plan to spend a lot of time trout fishing near our house.

As for 'special' things I intend to do at least 2 salmon charter days, probably with one or both of my kids and some other family or friends.  Worth it, a lot of fun and everyone loves salmon.  I also have a friend with a fishing boat and we'll probably be getting lots of crab and other stuff, but that depends on how available he is (he's wealthy but also workaholic).

Financially we are in a lean year so I won't be doing much else.  We are at the tail end of some immense child related expenses, which will thankfully end very soon.  Short term pain/long term gain.  Eldest recently bought a ticket to Europe for 5 weeks in the summer - I'm not going but being a parent I'll be setting aside a few thousand in case an emergency comes up that requires intervention.

We'll be doing a lot of hiking this year - we live in a hiking and mountain biking destination and there are literally thousands of trails within a 20 minute drive (and hundreds in walking distance from our home).  Sometimes I'll bring my fly rod with me.

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Re: Dumb outdoor Spring/Summer/Fall recreational pursuits - 2024 Edition
« Reply #42 on: May 07, 2024, 11:56:17 AM »
As the kids get older I am a big fan of having a controlled environment where they can run wild but still be nearish to us. Ideally it would be out our backdoor but these controlled places also come with friends without having to plan so that helps!

In the winter its our local ski hill

In the summer it is our local lake beach/park. We park ourselves in the shade and the kids will have some sort of friend show up. As they get older I hope it continues but my son has shown an interest in golf. When I was in my early teens I LIVED at the golf course, for a $200 junior membership my mom kept me busy all summer. Turns out my golf skills were from muscle memory and not talent because I definitely peaked then.

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« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2024, 07:49:32 PM »
I signed up for a thing here called the Boise Trails Challenge. The goal is to mountain bike about 175 miles of specific trail segments over a month, with around 36,000 ft of climbing.

Not sure if I'll be able to complete it, but sounds fun. I get in a bit of a rut riding the same loops near in our neighborhood, so should also be good motivation to explore other areas of the trail network. Just signing up has already helped me ride more and longer distances to scout some routes.

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« Reply #44 on: May 26, 2024, 12:56:05 PM »
Spent a full 7 days in Santa Cruz, Redwood Forest, and Yosemite with DW, DS, and another couple recently. Probably the final big trip before DD gets here in the fall. Flights were free for all of us with CC points, so all we had to purchase was our airbnbs, a rental car, and food/activities. The three of us spent about $1,200 total and that included stuff like the Monterey Aquarium, good local food, park passes and souvenir stuff. Hope all of you are still getting out there doing some recreation!

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« Reply #45 on: September 30, 2024, 07:56:20 PM »
Resurrecting this thread to hopefully hear reports from other people.

We started the summer with some yurt glamping at a state park in southern Idaho. Very remote and beautiful. Great hiking and biking trails, and a decent fishing pond nearby. We had the entire park to ourselves at night, and just a handful of day use visitors during the day.

I completed the Boise Trails Challenge mentioned up thread. Ended up riding close to 300 trail miles. It was a ton of fun and finished with plenty of time. I now have a bunch of new favorite rides near my house. IMO Boise is underrated for its mountain biking. Sure, it's not the most extreme or technical riding, which I don't particularly enjoy anyway, but really great for endless flowy trails and great views.

Got in a couple of longer distance backpacking trips with amazing scenery and fishing.

DD got into archery so we've been going to the archery range near our house. I need to get my bow checked out and tuned up (it's been a few years) and then I can join her. Ideally would like to get her to a proficiency where we can do the 3D course (series of foam animal targets) up in the hills.

We had really bad wildfire smoke in August, which put a damper on outdoor activity. Thankful that the air cleared a few weeks ago.

More recently the fly fishing has gotten really good as river flows are down and it's easier to wade. Southern Idaho has a ton of great rivers in all directions. Everything from high alpine streams down to desert canyons. It's a little overwhelming at times, but I'm starting to figure out some spots. Caught some really nice 18" rainbow trout last week, heading to that same spot tomorrow to try again.

We're getting some splashes of fall color here and cooler temps. Fly fishing should be really good for another 2-ish months. After that, looking forward to ski season starting up again.

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« Reply #46 on: September 30, 2024, 08:22:12 PM »
I just finished a 6 week learn to row course here at the local NAC rowing club. We were out in the bay the second class, and it was a ton of stuff to learn all at once! I got to try out both sweep and sculling, and I learned I had a bunch of tiny stabilization muscles that I never knew I had (or could be this sore!) I don’t think I want to join the rowing team, but I do plan on trying out paddling with the outrigger team next. Maybe in a month or so, I need a bit of a recovery break!

I think the next thing I’ll do is the Wilderness Travel Course put on by our local Sierra Club that starts in January.
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« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2024, 08:27:02 AM »
Spent September hiking the 48 4k+ peaks of NH.  Started out with 12 already done from AT section hiking, did another 28 last month in the perfect dry weather, and hoping to do another 4-6 before the end of the year.  So far we've done 40/48 and seen some amazing views.  My body has rarely felt this good.

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« Reply #48 on: October 08, 2024, 11:33:48 AM »
I like this thread! Two reasons: One, my large collection of conqueror of the useless hobbies is regularly in tension with my frugality. Two, like the OP, I also live in Boise! I'm in the east end and spend a lot of time on the trails so I expect that I've crossed paths with FINate at some point.

I had a great spring of river trips both days up in Banks on the Payette River and a couple of longer multiday trips including the middle fork/main salmon here in Idaho and the Copper River in Alaska that my wife and I snuck in before a work assignment I had in the area. Other than that, I've taken up running this year and gotten a lot of miles in on the local trails from my house as well as a few cool runs in the mountains and a couple of longer running events that were a blast.

This fall, I'm keeping up with running while mostly spending extra free time on house projects. We've got Kiddo #1 coming in February and I know the DIY projects will get a lot tougher to find time for after that.

I think this is my first post on the forum after years of lurking, so it's nice to break the seal and join the conversation. I've really loved discovering the MMM ethos and it has certainly changed my life. After a decade of double income no kids life and applying the principles I've learned here, we are arguably FI right now and just working on my one more year syndrome. I'm particularly interested to see how becoming a parent affects my outlook.
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