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« Reply #50 on: August 27, 2016, 06:05:26 PM »
Worked in several different industries like casinos, banking, and manufacturing, but always in finance/accounting.  I stumbled upon a job in healthcare working for a non-profit health center with a bunch of sites and ten quickly got promoted to CFO.  We help a lot of people, especially farm-workers who don't have a lot of access to health care (medical, dental, pharmacy, mental health, optometry, etc).  In the last 4+ years, I have found myself really dedicated to the mission.  It is tremendously rewarding and is as close as i could come to "loving" work.  I know the decisions I make help nearly 200,000 patients, so it makes the job really rewarding.

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« Reply #51 on: August 28, 2016, 05:48:48 PM »
I love working as a Jr. Accountant, never saw this as something I would even like. But I am very systems based and love to solve problems. I enjoy going to work : )

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« Reply #52 on: August 29, 2016, 02:15:33 PM »
My favorite job of all time BY FAR was in high school working at a grocery store. Most of the time I was a bagger (didn't enjoy that much), but I LOVED working the parking lot. Basically it was always 2-3 guys out there and it involved bringing carts in from the stalls and loading groceries into peoples' cars (a "drive n' load" service). Even in the hot summers and frigid, snowy winters, I had a blast. Plenty of freedom to roam around the parking lot, chat w/ co-workers, minor interactions w/ customers, and lots of outdoor time and exercise. I'm keeping this job in mind if I ever need to go back to work to supplement my income.

I'm currently a pharmacist working in a clinic (not behind the counter of a retail pharmacy). I do enjoy it to an extent, especially getting to know some of my patients who trust me implicitly and really become a part of my life, but in the end I'm still in an office in front of a computer when I'd rather just be outside roaming the parking lot :)

My favorite night of the year was always July 4th. I don't care about fireworks at all, so I'd just volunteer to do the evening shift. The parking lot would be empty and I'd be the only employee outside, so I'd sit on the pallets of water-softener salt and just enjoy the pleasant summer evening in peace.

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« Reply #53 on: August 29, 2016, 02:25:16 PM »
Teaching from 2001 through about 2009 or so I loved very much.  After that, things just changed and it was no longer the same.  FIRE'd  in 2014.  Some day I might have returned to the 2001 teaching.  I would never return to the 2014 teaching.

Maybe if things change again I would return, but not because I need to.  Time will tell.

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« Reply #54 on: August 29, 2016, 02:27:14 PM »
Teaching from 2001 through about 2009 or so I loved very much.  After that, things just changed and it was no longer the same.  FIRE'd  in 2014.  Some day I might have returned to the 2001 teaching.  I would never return to the 2014 teaching.

Maybe if things change again I would return, but not because I need to.  Time will tell.

What changed?

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« Reply #55 on: August 29, 2016, 02:35:44 PM »
I have loved many/most of my jobs, but often they are modest livings. Best jobs I've had:
  • Teaching personal finance to college students (my current side gig)
  • Working as a live-in social worker at a long-term shelter for homeless young mothers - for all the challenges, seeing the change in these women's eyes, seeing their lives transform was worth the heartache
  • Full-time bicycle advocate - attend community meetings, pour over transportation plans, do community organizing, ride my bike for work
  • Librarian at small archive - did some really groundbreaking work with rare materials and got to read zines for my job
  • Dishwasher at high end restaurant- sounds silly, but I worked only 20 hours a week, could pay my bills and save on it, got tipped out and got to listen to the radio while I worked and had great coworkers
  • Merch for an indie rock band - loved it at the time, way too old for those kind of hours/that much van travel anymore

Jobs I've not liked:
  • Exotic dancer - there were elements I enjoyed (dancing, paid well in cash) , but the personal risk was high (stalkers/drunk clients getting handsy/violent) and the hours were terrible (not off work til 3AM). This job made me really resentful at men, too, over time, which was bad for my friendships outside of work. 
  • High pressure political job - just quit this after 90 days on the job. 80 hour weeks and lack of autonomy are not for me

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« Reply #56 on: August 29, 2016, 03:50:53 PM »
Teaching from 2001 through about 2009 or so I loved very much.  After that, things just changed and it was no longer the same.  FIRE'd  in 2014.  Some day I might have returned to the 2001 teaching.  I would never return to the 2014 teaching.

Maybe if things change again I would return, but not because I need to.  Time will tell.

Was this a NCLB/Testing thing, or something else?  What did you teach?
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« Reply #57 on: August 30, 2016, 04:18:16 AM »
I really like my current job. There's definitely something to be said for finding something to do that feels meaningful and gives you a sense of purpose. If I was at the point of financial independence right now, I wouldn't outright retire, I would just drop myself down to part-time.

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« Reply #58 on: August 30, 2016, 06:10:20 AM »
Yes and no. I love my work but hated my job.

I'm a software (well firmware) engineer. I never disliked the technical parts of my work, just the arbitrary 9-5 Monday-Friday imprisonment period.

The first step I took towards loving what I did was to negotiate a 4 day per week part-time deal (thank you FU money). This was much better - I'd say I was twice as happy compared to when I worked full-time. However, I ultimately didn't want to organise my life around a job so I got into the position where I could do similar work as a freelancer.

Now I earn a lot more for every hour that I work and so I only work very part-time. I no longer feel the urge to chase FI quite so hard and really get absorbed in my work when I do it. I now have a career that gives me a lot of non-monetary rewards, feel financially secure and don't have the job stress that I used to hate. Ironically, if I ramped up the freelancing, I could reach FI much more quickly than I could have done as an employee, but I no longer want to.

In my experience, a lot of people feel similarly, i.e. enjoy their work but not the arbitrary structure imposed on them by a job. I always try to encourage people in that situation to see if there's a way to keep the good bits of the career whilst getting rid of the bits that don't suit them. I made a few (or maybe a lot of) missteps on this journey but it was definitely planned.

Perhaps constraining the question to 'jobs' is a bit limiting. I don't think there's any way I could ever enjoy a 9-5 job but I'm still in love with my career choice.





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« Reply #59 on: August 30, 2016, 07:49:55 AM »
When I was looking about for what I wanted to do after the Navy (4 years, fun, but not for a full career), I started with "What Color Is Your Parachute?" and similar books about choosing careers. My thinking was if I picked a field I found ethical, interesting, and at the macro level good work, I could refine from there. The answers came up I like books, so I got an entry-level job in academic book publishing. Bad pay, but I really liked the idea of making books. My worst boss ever was that first boss. I stuck it out a year and I had an offer to work for someone else. Turns out my ability to put up with Shithead was seen as extremely admirable. Then I heard about a job in the same company where I would be basically a project manager, the job required nitpicky attention to detail, the ability to juggle many projects and tasks (never only doing one thing all the time), and was mostly suited to an introvert, although I did have to make calls and do vendor relations. Lots of reading, proofing, budgeting, scheduling, and generally being master of my own domain. Despite moving a lot, I have held 4 similar jobs since then, with some others mixed in. I really did love it. And my current job is the 4th production editor job with a very respected company and I still enjoy the challenge of helping get a manuscript edited, have covers designed, page layout and proofreading done, anticipating and solving problems, and sending the new baby out into the world to help educate people.

BUT...my current job has some company and managerial culture aspects that make me feel black rage almost daily. Yet, I can work from home mostly, I still mostly am master of my domain, and holy cow the benefits are crazy good. That's how publishing retains people. But I'm ready to do something else. Lately I've been thinking I'd like to learn to upholster furniture...

You have to really know yourself. Think more about what you naturally like. For me, working alone and not in groups is best. I like autonomy. And I'm always happy and proud to see my product. I couldn't work somewhere I didn't feel was contributing to the good.

ETA: Despite all of the above, once I have FI I'm so gone.
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« Reply #60 on: August 30, 2016, 08:53:07 AM »
I am a wildlife biologist and have always loved my job. It's what I went to college and grad school for, so I knew right out of high school what I wanted to do.  I get to study all kinds of interesting animals and work in beautiful places.  I have worked with bears, moose, deer, bighorn sheep, turkeys, mountain lions, songbirds, game birds, endangered species, and lots more.  A lot of it is hard work, but it's rewarding.  Unfortunately, my job led to the death of one of my dogs last year.  A mountain lion came into our camp while we were putting up our tents at night and grabbed our golden retriever right next to us.  It was terrifying and now I wonder if my job is really worth it.  It sort of sucked the joy out of my job because now I worry all the time about my dogs. Much of our work now is done off trail at night.  But the dogs have so much fun going with me and I know that golden retriever got to do so much more and enjoy so many things that most dogs never do.  I don't think she would have traded the outcome for living with someone who stayed inside most of the time. 

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« Reply #61 on: August 30, 2016, 09:23:19 AM »
Dude - MS Wildlife Ecology here too!!  Same with my jobs though I've done fisheries quite a bit and work in the western Pacific and Azores recently.

Sorry to hear about the pup.  It is great to have a working dog out there with you.

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« Reply #62 on: August 30, 2016, 09:33:22 AM »
Teaching from 2001 through about 2009 or so I loved very much.  After that, things just changed and it was no longer the same.  FIRE'd  in 2014.  Some day I might have returned to the 2001 teaching.  I would never return to the 2014 teaching.

Maybe if things change again I would return, but not because I need to.  Time will tell.

Was this a NCLB/Testing thing, or something else?  What did you teach?

Computer Science in High School.  It was not 1 thing, it was a long list of things that accumulated with time.  Some of them:

Class size increased from 24 to 30
Added responsibilities not related to teaching
Less prep time
Leadership change that was not necessarily bad, but was not better.
Reduced benefit package
Elimination of a clear path to increased financial compensation
Turnover rate of faculty/staff (about 80% in 4 years)
A subjective review plan tied to compensation
Fatigue and total burnout (BIG TIME)
Moral of faculty/staff
I hit my FIRE #
The fact that I could not set classroom management plans to dictate student phone use
Social promotion.  One story:

I taught an AP (college) course with students that were not qualified to be there.  The limitations were not in programming, that was why I was there.  They ALL had programming limitations. Many had deficiencies I was untrained to address. In April, I taped 10, three digit numbers to my wall, in random order. One month before the college exam  I told the 22 students to place the 10 numbers in order from least to greatest on a sheet of paper to collect.  I then asked them to raise their hand if they thought everyone in class turned in a correct sheet.  No hands went up.  First thing they got right all year :)  I was unable to teach college concepts to students that were not ready for 5th grade, yet there they were.


I do not mean to sound bitter.  It was a great career for quite a while, but I would not recommend starting now. I still talk with existing staff. I do not see policies that are making things better, just different. I left when I should have, and I was very grateful and lucky to have that experience.

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« Reply #63 on: August 30, 2016, 09:54:35 AM »
Teaching is a tough gig.  My partner, with and advanced science degree, left the field and went into teaching.  Year 19 now as second career.  Loves the kids and gets great feedback - been invited to kids middle school, high school, and college graduations.   She does feel she makes a difference in kids' lives and the parents and they make it worthwhile. 

The down side is usually administration.  One of her colleagues taught for 40 yrs and had kids of the kids he taught.  Quite a legacy and several generations came to his retirement party.  My partner will make it to 20 yrs and then dial it back - maybe working with the university to help improve science programs. 

She gets paid ok - but it is pretty time intensive.  I saw a bumper sticker recently "I support my wife's habit - she's a teacher"

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« Reply #64 on: August 30, 2016, 09:57:13 AM »
I've enjoyed several jobs that I've worked . . . for a while.  Eventually they tend to become a grind.  It's not that the work is intolerable or even that it has significantly changed . . . it's that it gets less fun day after day with little things that become more annoying over time.

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« Reply #65 on: August 30, 2016, 10:14:23 AM »
Teaching from 2001 through about 2009 or so I loved very much.  After that, things just changed and it was no longer the same.  FIRE'd  in 2014.  Some day I might have returned to the 2001 teaching.  I would never return to the 2014 teaching.

Maybe if things change again I would return, but not because I need to.  Time will tell.

Was this a NCLB/Testing thing, or something else?  What did you teach?


See my last post for more detail.  I think NCLB did have an impact on some of those changes. I did not have a big issue with the testing part.  What was frustrating is getting those test results, but then not getting time or resources to do anything with that information.

I believe Act 10 did have more of an impact (I taught in Wisconsin) than NCLB, but I do not see it at the cause.  I would call it a factor to my departure. I am sure many people like what has come from Act 10.  My opinion was that Act 10 did not and will not make schools a better place to teach, but that was not the point.  It was done to save money, and it did save a lot of money.  Time will tell if they get better results.  Actually, time might not help because they keep changing the testing methods.




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« Reply #66 on: August 30, 2016, 11:12:52 AM »
Teaching from 2001 through about 2009 or so I loved very much.  After that, things just changed and it was no longer the same.  FIRE'd  in 2014.  Some day I might have returned to the 2001 teaching.  I would never return to the 2014 teaching.

Maybe if things change again I would return, but not because I need to.  Time will tell.

What changed?

Sorry mtn.  My first reply was for you :)

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« Reply #67 on: August 30, 2016, 11:50:03 AM »
I really love my job although my workplace is going through some rough times.  I teach job readiness, basic computer skills, and some vocational classes to people who are looking for work. On any given week, I may work with someone who just got out of prison, someone with a Ph.D, or someone who is looking for a PT job in retirement.  I love working with people  and hearing their stories. I also feel like I make a positive difference in people's lives by helping them do simple things like creating a resume or teaching them how to dress and act during an interview.  People are generally extremely gracious and appreciative for the help, and I have seen something as simple as a nice resume make a person stand up a little straighter and hold their head a little higher.  It is pretty amazing!


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« Reply #68 on: August 30, 2016, 11:54:09 AM »
Dude - MS Wildlife Ecology here too!!  Same with my jobs though I've done fisheries quite a bit and work in the western Pacific and Azores recently.

Sorry to hear about the pup.  It is great to have a working dog out there with you.

:)

I haven't done much international wildlife work....volunteered to monitor some radioed chamois in Switzerland when I was there for a different job.  Azores must be an interesting place to work!  what species?  that's fisheries there too?

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« Reply #69 on: August 30, 2016, 12:01:23 PM »
Looking back over my far too long career, the jobs that I liked most were high pressure but short time engagements.  I was the one who got called into other companies when no one on staff could fix the problem, or I was called in to do <2 month projects.  The pace was fast and the risk of failure was high, but the reward was great.  Unlike working for a single company, I got some relief between assignments and praise/gratitude from above.  Any time I've been an inside employee, it was just pressure to do more with less, more with less, what do you mean you want to take a weekend off? 

I was hoping that my current job was going to be more consulting since my title is Sr Solutions Consultant, but it is actually just babysit the sales reps.  I only work about 20 hours a week, but it is some boring work. 

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« Reply #70 on: August 30, 2016, 04:26:57 PM »
Yes. Professor at a college.... I never plan on retiring...

A quick test for jobs people seem to love might be can you imagine xxx emeritus

i.e. do you have to shove them out the door with a special title and privileges that allow them to keep doing the  work when they do retire

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« Reply #71 on: August 30, 2016, 05:05:48 PM »
Dude - MS Wildlife Ecology here too!!  Same with my jobs though I've done fisheries quite a bit and work in the western Pacific and Azores recently.

Sorry to hear about the pup.  It is great to have a working dog out there with you.

:)

I haven't done much international wildlife work....volunteered to monitor some radioed chamois in Switzerland when I was there for a different job.  Azores must be an interesting place to work!  what species?  that's fisheries there too?

Fruit bats, megapodes, white-eyes, and Tinian monarch (bird) in western Pacific - more landscape-scale land planning in the Azores- terrestrial work.  those are outliers - mostly work in OR, WA, AK, MT, ID.

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« Reply #72 on: August 31, 2016, 02:04:57 AM »
Great stories, guys, thanks for sharing.  Maybe it's naive of me, but I do still have hope for the future in terms of finding a job I'll love.  Do any of you listen to Radical Personal Finance podcast by Joshua Sheats?  He suggests on several episodes that maybe instead of gritting your teeth to work at a job you hate until you can retire altogether, it would be a better plan to find something you like to do enough that you don't ever want to retire, similar to what liberate_life was saying.  I think that is a good goal to strive for in my case. 

My current job has been steadily becoming more intolerable, and I finally hit my limit and gave notice today.  I feel....kind of like a gigantic vise has been removed from my head.  I still have to hang on for a bit until they find someone to replace me, but honestly, it is a relief to know that my time there is limited.  I'm hopeful they'll find someone quickly and maybe I won't have to stay until the end of my resignation term.

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« Reply #73 on: August 31, 2016, 02:30:18 AM »
Great stories, guys, thanks for sharing.  Maybe it's naive of me, but I do still have hope for the future in terms of finding a job I'll love.  Do any of you listen to Radical Personal Finance podcast by Joshua Sheats?  He suggests on several episodes that maybe instead of gritting your teeth to work at a job you hate until you can retire altogether, it would be a better plan to find something you like to do enough that you don't ever want to retire, similar to what liberate_life was saying.  I think that is a good goal to strive for in my case. 

Joshua's mentioned that same idea to me.

The problem is I already had a job I loved (see above), but it still wasn't compatible with what I wanted to be doing (raising kids full time, traveling the world full time).  Just because you have a job you love doesn't mean you don't want to FIRE.  There are plenty of examples here on the forum where we enjoyed our jobs very much, but still had other things we wanted to do as well.

Because of how many lives I have, I don't think there's any one job I'd want forever.

I taught for 8 years.  8 years is enough to do anything.  Now there's other things I want to do, which would be prohibited if I had to be somewhere at 8am.

I definitely think you should do that WHILE saving up FI money.  Get a job you love, and do it until you're FI.  If you still want to do it, great.  But if you want to FIRE and do other things instead, awesome.  You'll have that option and opportunity.  Choosing solely one (work in a miserable job to save up lots of money), or the other (work in a job you like but never plan to retire), seems silly to me, when you can have your cake and eat it too.  :)
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« Reply #74 on: August 31, 2016, 03:28:01 AM »
I've done plenty of things I love, then started doing them for money… then it lost it's magic.
I agree with

However, now that we've made it, more than ever, I feel like it's just a job.

Here's a quote a friend posted on fb: "'Pilots who learn too much about their craft, Mark Twain writes in Life on the Mississippi, often undergo a regrettable transformation. As they become increasingly skilled at reading the language of the river, they seem to grow correspondingly less able to appreciate its beauty and poetry. Features of the river—a floating log, a slanting mark on the water, a patch of choppy waves—that once aroused feelings of wonder and awe become increasingly appreciated only instrumentally, in terms of the use they have for piloting'. . . .from The Great Equations by Robert P. Crease"
 

I think most of the joy really comes from
1. accomplishment of long term goals, and
2. freedom in how to get there, and
3. positive relationships with the people that you work together with.
That’s why I love project work, very little danger of falling into a rhythm and just doing things on autopilot. I think that’s also why teaching can be so fulfilling – if you have a steady class and you see the kids grow.

The rest of the joy is really only avoiding thinks you dislike. If you don’t like to be out in every weather, an office job might make you a happier. If you love nature and every kind of weather, better to stay away from office jobs. You hate social interaction, avoid jobs where the top priority is to make customers happy while being in direct interaction with them. And so on and so forth.

I think most people are thinking in much too narrow terms of finding the perfect job. That's like to trying to pick the perfect cake by reading in great detail the list of ingredients. Should I pick a cake that needs 50gr of butter or one that 60gr of butter... that's not going to help you find out whether you may like it.

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« Reply #75 on: August 31, 2016, 08:48:45 AM »
I've done plenty of things I love, then started doing them for money… then it lost it's magic.
I agree with

However, now that we've made it, more than ever, I feel like it's just a job.

Here's a quote a friend posted on fb: "'Pilots who learn too much about their craft, Mark Twain writes in Life on the Mississippi, often undergo a regrettable transformation. As they become increasingly skilled at reading the language of the river, they seem to grow correspondingly less able to appreciate its beauty and poetry. Features of the river—a floating log, a slanting mark on the water, a patch of choppy waves—that once aroused feelings of wonder and awe become increasingly appreciated only instrumentally, in terms of the use they have for piloting'. . . .from The Great Equations by Robert P. Crease"
 

I think most of the joy really comes from
1. accomplishment of long term goals, and
2. freedom in how to get there, and
3. positive relationships with the people that you work together with.
That’s why I love project work, very little danger of falling into a rhythm and just doing things on autopilot. I think that’s also why teaching can be so fulfilling – if you have a steady class and you see the kids grow.

The rest of the joy is really only avoiding thinks you dislike. If you don’t like to be out in every weather, an office job might make you a happier. If you love nature and every kind of weather, better to stay away from office jobs. You hate social interaction, avoid jobs where the top priority is to make customers happy while being in direct interaction with them. And so on and so forth.

I think most people are thinking in much too narrow terms of finding the perfect job. That's like to trying to pick the perfect cake by reading in great detail the list of ingredients. Should I pick a cake that needs 50gr of butter or one that 60gr of butter... that's not going to help you find out whether you may like it.

The 60gr of butter cake will be better.

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« Reply #76 on: August 31, 2016, 09:00:33 AM »
Great stories, guys, thanks for sharing.  Maybe it's naive of me, but I do still have hope for the future in terms of finding a job I'll love.  Do any of you listen to Radical Personal Finance podcast by Joshua Sheats?  He suggests on several episodes that maybe instead of gritting your teeth to work at a job you hate until you can retire altogether, it would be a better plan to find something you like to do enough that you don't ever want to retire, similar to what liberate_life was saying.  I think that is a good goal to strive for in my case. 

My current job has been steadily becoming more intolerable, and I finally hit my limit and gave notice today.  I feel....kind of like a gigantic vise has been removed from my head.  I still have to hang on for a bit until they find someone to replace me, but honestly, it is a relief to know that my time there is limited.  I'm hopeful they'll find someone quickly and maybe I won't have to stay until the end of my resignation term.

Best of luck.  IMO - no sense staying in a job that you feel is wearing you down.  Life is too short - my take is -- find work where you feel you are contributing something of worth in the world, that challenges your brain, where other smart folks work and enjoy their work, and that pays decent enough for your efforts.  Always been my mantra and served me well. 

And I suspect others disagree - but if all you are getting from your work is money - that is a hard row to hoe.

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Re: Does (Did) Anyone Have a Job They Love(d)?
« Reply #77 on: August 31, 2016, 04:53:22 PM »
I ran my own greeting card manufacturing business for 25 years and made enough money to buy a house and support myself and become FIRE.  I loved working at home and all my business relationships were contract based.  NO employees.  Yeah! The only problem is UPS came to my house everyday to pickup a bunch of boxes.  Luckily my neighbors didn't mind. I sure didn't need my MA or BA degree to do this.

Just a note: People often write to me about this and I get way too many emails, so I wrote a blog reference page to answer most people's questions about this industry. http://kateharperblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/how-to-articles-for-card-designers.html  I guess that's my polite way of requesting people not write to me about this.  (Sorry, I dont' want to be rude)!
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« Reply #78 on: September 01, 2016, 12:47:36 PM »
Another teacher/stumbler chiming in.  How I stumbled on it was:  kids were getting a older and time to work full time. The school district needed subs.  I found that special ed jobs were the easiest to get, especially those "in the south end of the district".  I found I adored working with kids, especially high-needs kids.

I still remember the day I knew it was for me:  I was subbing for sweet little babies, both special ed and poor (one little girl had an adult sized shirt on held together with paper clips).  Another sub who was supposed to be there showed up, looked around, and said, "sorry, I can't do this", and walked out.  Right then I knew these kids needed adults who cared and would advocate for them. 

I love my job teaching special ed at an inner city charter school.  I've been here 5 years, and plan on staying until I retire (poor previous financial planning means I will never RE, in fact, I will have to RL LOL).  I adore my co-workers, love the kids, and occasionally even like administration, although I disagree with a lot of their decisions and the fact that if they took educating these kids seriously, many things would be done differently, esp for my department.



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« Reply #79 on: September 01, 2016, 06:51:56 PM »
Best of luck.  IMO - no sense staying in a job that you feel is wearing you down.  Life is too short - my take is -- find work where you feel you are contributing something of worth in the world, that challenges your brain, where other smart folks work and enjoy their work, and that pays decent enough for your efforts.  Always been my mantra and served me well. 

And I suspect others disagree - but if all you are getting from your work is money - that is a hard row to hoe.
Thanks.  Things got a little testy with the boss, and might be a little tense with my manager, but I think I can gut it out.  And I agree with you: as good as the money is, I'm profoundly unhappy, and I don't think I'm doing anyone any good by staying here any longer than strictly necessary.

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« Reply #80 on: September 01, 2016, 06:59:27 PM »
Teaching for me too.  Miss it.  Don't have to go back, but I really want to. 

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« Reply #81 on: September 02, 2016, 02:11:55 PM »
No.

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« Reply #82 on: September 04, 2016, 09:44:21 AM »
I've worked far more jobs that I've loved than ones that I have not loved.

In high school and the early college years I worked as a lifeguard and swim instructor, both outdoor pools and indoor pools. Loved my co-workers for the most part, my bosses, the hours, and the kids and parents who were the customers. Even the pay was pretty good. Those jobs led me to the next job that I loved: assistant swim coach. I got the job because I just called and asked if they would let me volunteer as an assistant swim coach (I wanted the experience) and they hired me. I coached for 5 seasons and loved all of it.

First job I didn't love was as a research assistant. I didn't mind conducting the research study itself -- we were studying how children learn certain aspects of the English language -- so I mostly just had to play very structured games with children and video tape everything. But I hated writing up the research.

The next job I had that I loved was as a standardized test prep teacher/tutor. I started the job because I thought it would be a good job for the summer right after I graduated college. I always intended to look for a "real" job after the summer was over. But I loved the job, the hours were pretty great, my co-workers were awesome, and the pay was solid. So I stayed for 15 years. And the company kept giving me opportunities to expand what I could teach/tutor, and they gave me opportunities to manage things, sometimes really big things ($5MM budget big), and then I retired early at the age of 36.

But then I was bored. So I went to grad school. And it was expensive. And I was no longer FI at the level I desired, so I went back to work.

And that was the next job that I didn't love. I worked for a start-up as the COO. I had the operations and finance background to do the job, but I hated the industry and that should have been enough to keep me from taking the job, but it seemed so interesting on paper...

Now I'm at another job that I love. I teach as an adjunct at the local community college. Sometimes the politics are annoying and the rules are stupid, but the job itself is pretty awesome. I started out teaching in one department and now teach in five. My job never gets boring because I never teach more than 2 sections of the same subject in one semester. The pay isn't anywhere near what I would make if I returned to a corporate job, but I don't care. Right now I work 40+ hours a week for 14 weeks each semester and the rest of the time I can work if I want. Or not.

I'm easily bored. So I started two side businesses for fun. They both involve teaching.

Anybody notice a theme?

Sophomore year in HS my English teacher told me that I would be a teacher when I grew up. I told her I was going to be a dolphin trainer at Sea World. Guess she was right.

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« Reply #83 on: September 04, 2016, 04:10:14 PM »
31 years old here and have been lucky to have a job that I love for 8 years now. But, I figure I'll list them all: I worked as a cook for 6 years in high school and college. This job was great and gave a respect for people that work in the restaraunt industry. Went to college and majored in sociology/criminal justice. Graduated college got accepted to teach for America. Nobody turns down teach for America, so even though I never really thought about teaching I figured I would help make society a better place by teaching at an inner city school. I quickly realized that I didn't enjoy teaching and I dreaded going to work everyday.

After a few months into a two year commitment, I quit teaching and became a police officer. I love what I do and get to make the community a better place from a different angle. Pay is awesome (in my humble opinion), vacation is plentiful, and my wife (same career) and I will be able to retire at 46 and make 60% or so of our salary for the rest of our lives. Sweet! We both enjoy what we do so much that though we will be financially able to retire at 46 and be dandy forever, we wonder if we will actually make that leap.

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« Reply #84 on: September 05, 2016, 09:36:39 PM »
I LOVE teaching young children.  Last year, I thought, "I will teach another year."  In June they told me that my musical instruments will be locked in a room and I will deliver my music programme by pushing a cart with cd player on it.  Have decided to get all documents in order and then give notice of retirement.  I can not teach music without a music room........  No joy in this.

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« Reply #85 on: September 05, 2016, 10:59:36 PM »
A roving classroom for a music teacher is nuts.
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« Reply #86 on: September 06, 2016, 08:24:38 PM »
A roving classroom for a music teacher is nuts.

I was at a district that had a roving art teacher who had a cart and no classroom.  I felt so bad for her - she tried her best to make it work.

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« Reply #87 on: September 06, 2016, 09:27:37 PM »
When I was young - 18 - 24 or so - I was a professional river boatman all over the west.  Yampa, Green, Desolation Canyon, Cataract, Middle Fork, Salmon, Hell's Canyon of Snake River, Cataract, Grand Canyon.  I loved that but thought I needed to have a serious job of some sort. 

I was a ranger in one of the huge, rivered, western National Parks for 3 years.  Had a patrol staff doing interpretation and law enforcement, did concessions management, worked with many many riparian researchers, made some ranger pards with whom I am still close these decades later.  Flat hat, gray shirt, gold badge, green pants, .357, Type V lifejackets.  I loved that.  But I came home one day to a wife who said, "In August I'm going back to Denver and taking the kids.  You can come or not."  I was never a fan of Marriage by Ultimatum.  So by then I was thinking, "I wouldn't cross a placid street for you, but I'm not being separated from my kids."  I was yet to learn that any marriage that needs to be salvaged isn't worth saving.

Lately I started re-reading El Ingenioso Hidalgo Don Quixote de la Mancha, to try to figure out why Cervantes included that dismal episode about the love-slain pseudo-shepherd Grisostomo, and the virtuous and beauteous Marcela who was his unintended and inadvertent basilisk.  I found myself thinking, "I wonder if any of these people on the Forum have an opening for a caballero andante.  That seems like a good 10th career for me.  Me and Travis McGee."   Then I realized I had had a job after FI where I was a sort of ombudsman and simultaneous enforcer at a very large subsidized housing project, saving from eviction the tenants the staff had unfairly targeted, casting the violent assholes who had imposed upon the staff and terrified the tenants out into the street.  I loved that, though in a very different way, and it is only now, years later, that I see how quixotic it was and how the quixotic part was what attracted. 

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« Reply #88 on: September 07, 2016, 03:43:08 PM »
Most of the time I love my job.  I've been an aviation junkie since preschool and the interest has never waned.  Like anyone I occasionally wake up and wish I could be playing golf or hiking or finishing a project around the house instead of working, but overall it's a pretty great job. I fly with many interesting and talented people. I never really know what challenges I'll face that day so it doesn't usually get stale. When I'm done for the day I'm left alone. I don't take work home.

Every day I log on here I get a reminder of how much worse it can be.  The stories of office politics, jackass bosses, backstabbing coworkers, job hopping every few years to get market wages, etc... makes me realize how lucky I really am with my profession. I'd be gung ho about FIRE instead of just the FI part if I had to deal with that crap every day. Since my company doesn't have time to babysit 4,000+ pilots we're pretty much left alone as long as we don't do anything too outrageous. A saying I've heard from chief pilots at multiple airlines is that they spend 98% of their time dealing with 2% of the pilot group.  Don't be in that 2% and things are usually pretty good.