Author Topic: Do we need to order checks from the bank?  (Read 21183 times)

Nudel

  • 5 O'Clock Shadow
  • *
  • Posts: 68
  • Location: Great White North...Koo-lo-ko-ko-koo-lo-ko-ko!
Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« on: February 27, 2013, 06:20:48 PM »
I hardly ever use checks from the bank. A booklet will last me years. I remember someone once writing me a check from a blank booklet where they wrote down their bank name and the transaction numbers but I've never seen once since.

It's not something I'm really trying to be cheapola about but I seriously do not need 50 which seems to be the smallest amount to order.

Is there a special requirement to have pre-printed ones, or is there a DIY or one-at-a-time alternative?

**I am typing this up as "check" so that the broader audience will catch what I'm talking about. I'm in Canada and we call them cheques. If being in Canada makes a difference to the requirement let me know.

mustachecat

  • Bristles
  • ***
  • Posts: 398
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2013, 06:34:23 PM »
I've never done this, but I'm pretty sure that you can get your checks from a third-party retailer; either you provide your banking info, or you can write it in? Not sure, though.

A quick Google search says that it costs about $6 (US), plus S/H. How does that compare to your bank?

mobilisinmobili

  • Stubble
  • **
  • Posts: 217
  • Age: 42
  • Location: Montreal
  • Advance daily
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2013, 06:52:55 PM »
There's so few situations that one actually needs to use checks for anymore.

mustachecat

  • Bristles
  • ***
  • Posts: 398
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2013, 07:08:33 PM »
Boom:

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=225825
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=195246

So, yes, you can print your own checks, and as long as whomever you're giving them to doesn't give you a hard time, they should clear your bank. Mind the comments about magnetic ink, though.

Alternately, it might be worth calling your bank and seeing if they'll just give you a starter pack of checks for free.

KimAB

  • 5 O'Clock Shadow
  • *
  • Posts: 79
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2013, 07:17:13 PM »
I'm not sure what the problem is.  I don't change banks and cheques don't spoil.  I ordered cheques for the first time in 15 years (?) because the bank changed my account number.  When I move I just put the free War Amps address labels over the old address and use them forever. 

Really, though, if you only need one cheque they should be able to print one for you.

Left

  • Handlebar Stache
  • *****
  • Posts: 1157
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2013, 08:54:03 PM »
Can you not go to the bank and ask them to print you a check to whomever you need to pay with it? My credit union does this the 1 or 2 times a year I use checks for free...

Punk

  • Stubble
  • **
  • Posts: 190
  • Age: 34
  • Location: Montreal - Canada
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2013, 08:58:05 PM »
I'm not sure what the problem is.  I don't change banks and cheques don't spoil.  I ordered cheques for the first time in 15 years (?) because the bank changed my account number.  When I move I just put the free War Amps address labels over the old address and use them forever. 

Really, though, if you only need one cheque they should be able to print one for you.

Because the address matters on cheques? I still haven't gone through my first 50-pack of cheques offered from my bank and they show an address that's old as balls. I must have moved 5 times since then and those cheques still work without any problem.

KimAB

  • 5 O'Clock Shadow
  • *
  • Posts: 79
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2013, 08:43:42 AM »
The cheque still works fine, but if it doesn't have my current address on it the property management shreds the cheque and says I didn't pay... 

Punk

  • Stubble
  • **
  • Posts: 190
  • Age: 34
  • Location: Montreal - Canada
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2013, 08:46:56 AM »
The cheque still works fine, but if it doesn't have my current address on it the property management shreds the cheque and says I didn't pay...

They are cunts. I live in a condo with a property management too and they accept my cheques with the wrong address. What's wrong with it? It still works and the important part is my name and my bank account numbers, not the address.

venkol

  • 5 O'Clock Shadow
  • *
  • Posts: 32
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2013, 09:05:46 AM »
You can open an online bank account with USAA which provides free checks and replacements and has great online tools such as instant availability of funds when you transfer from another bank ($300 for the first 30 days, then up to $2000 after I think).  I just ordered new checks about 10 minutes ago for free.  They do try to upsell you for pretty designs and faster shipping, but there are always free options.  100 Checks in two weeks for $0.00

I schedule an auto transfer into my USAA account on the 1st of the month and drop off my rent check with the office.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2013, 09:08:20 AM by venkol »

The Money Monk

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 619
  • Location: Nevada
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2013, 09:17:25 AM »
You can open an online bank account with USAA which provides free checks and replacements and has great online tools such as instant availability of funds when you transfer from another bank ($300 for the first 30 days, then up to $2000 after I think).  I just ordered new checks about 10 minutes ago for free.  They do try to upsell you for pretty designs and faster shipping, but there are always free options.  100 Checks in two weeks for $0.00

I schedule an auto transfer into my USAA account on the 1st of the month and drop off my rent check with the office.

I also have USAA so I get free checks. Only military or their dependents/spouses can open a USAA account though, so it isn't an option for everybody.

BlueMR2

  • Handlebar Stache
  • *****
  • Posts: 2341
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2013, 09:35:01 AM »
Just ask the bank for free checks.  I can't believe anyone would still pay for checks in this day and age.  Banks will just give them to you if you ask.  In my case I don't even have to ask.  They just periodically send me some (I burn through about 4 a month for the basic utilities, so I only use one book of 50 a year on average).

venkol

  • 5 O'Clock Shadow
  • *
  • Posts: 32
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2013, 10:05:05 AM »
You can open an online bank account with USAA which provides free checks and replacements and has great online tools such as instant availability of funds when you transfer from another bank ($300 for the first 30 days, then up to $2000 after I think).  I just ordered new checks about 10 minutes ago for free.  They do try to upsell you for pretty designs and faster shipping, but there are always free options.  100 Checks in two weeks for $0.00

I schedule an auto transfer into my USAA account on the 1st of the month and drop off my rent check with the office.

I also have USAA so I get free checks. Only military or their dependents/spouses can open a USAA account though, so it isn't an option for everybody.

Only the insurance and some minor features (such as deposit check by phone) require a military association.  Anyone can sign up for a free checking account.

Crash87

  • Stubble
  • **
  • Posts: 163
  • Age: 38
  • Location: St. Louis
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2013, 05:06:25 PM »
I am checkbook free and use Capital One 360 (used to be ING). I can't forsee a reason I would need to physically own checks since I can have the bank mail checks from my phone or use text messaging to send money.

sheepstache

  • Handlebar Stache
  • *****
  • Posts: 2417
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2013, 05:49:23 PM »
Also if you google "free checks" I think there are some companies that will print them for you.  It will have an advertisement like www.freechecks.com on it or something but you probably don't care about that.

Freedom2016

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 899
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2013, 05:55:59 PM »
Does your bank have online banking? Mine does, and I can send checks for free from there. I just enter the payee's information, how much to send them and when, and the bank fires off a check on the appropriate date.

Jaherman99

  • 5 O'Clock Shadow
  • *
  • Posts: 37
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2013, 07:58:53 AM »
Does your bank have online banking? Mine does, and I can send checks for free from there. I just enter the payee's information, how much to send them and when, and the bank fires off a check on the appropriate date.

Same for me.  I think all online bank bill pay services cut checks when they can't do electronic transfers and mail them. 

burly

  • Stubble
  • **
  • Posts: 151
  • Location: East
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2013, 10:53:56 AM »
Hello,

I was a bank branch manager for sometime... Not sure what bank you're with, but this may apply.

1. Ask how to get free checks? With many banks, all you need is a qualifying direct deposit, or your employer may have some agreement with their bank that gives employees better banking benefits.

2. In addition to #1, there are often checking accounts that provide free checks if you have $XX balance. Often around 1000-2000 balance. You can upgrade to this 'premium' bank account and downgrade in a month. This would get you your checks.

3. Online bill pay does send physical checks if there is no electronic payment available. To test, just send an e-check to yourself at your address. I used to pay my rent for years this way. My landlord would receive the check in the mail.

4. If you only ever need just 1 check, your local branch CAN print out checks. Depending on your checking account plan, history with the bank, they may be free or may waive the charge. It's about 1.50 per check they print, but is OFTEN waived.

5. Do you have investments? Most brokerage accounts provide checks - e trade did to me without me even asking. Free too. If you only ever need a check a few times a year, do a transfer to your brokerage and write that check out.


I personally do use checks because many local services in my small town do not take plastic.

rugorak

  • Bristles
  • ***
  • Posts: 395
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2013, 08:50:18 AM »
The "manual" version of checks are starter checks that they used to give out when you first opened an account. Most places won't take them because they are so easy to commit fraud with. So most banks don't even give them out now.

Plenty of great suggestions about how to avoid paying for checks. And even if you do end up having to pay for them there are many cheaper places to order them. I think I paid $8 for my last box of 500 (which will last me years).

Lina

  • 5 O'Clock Shadow
  • *
  • Posts: 71
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2013, 12:22:31 PM »
Out of curiosity, what do you pay with checks?

Paying with checks is something that I associate with long queues and old french ladies during my exchange year in France. I didn't realize that you still use them in some countries.

einzweidrei

  • 5 O'Clock Shadow
  • *
  • Posts: 11
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2013, 04:00:34 PM »
I am required to submit my maintenance payment for my co-op to the management company via check. The apartment I used to rent also only accepted checks. And this requires me to buy stamps as well. Not a fan.

Morning Glory

  • Walrus Stache
  • *******
  • Posts: 5368
  • Location: The Garden Path
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2018, 04:52:05 PM »
Out of curiosity, what do you pay with checks?

Paying with checks is something that I associate with long queues and old french ladies during my exchange year in France. I didn't realize that you still use them in some countries.

My dentist gives me a 5% discount if I pay the same day with cash or check. The trash haulers do not accept online payments, so I mail them a check once a year. Also my propane is slightly cheaper if I use a check instead of credit card. Then there are random school fund raisers and small charitable contributions where the cancelled check is the only proof that I donated. Once in a while I also have to hire a contractor and most do not accept credit cards, or charge extra for doing so. When my MIL died we had to pay an extra 2% for her funeral because we didn't have a checkbook with us (she died in another state and we rushed down there to see her before she passed) and the place charged extra to run a debit or credit card. I probably write five or ten checks per year. I am also using checks with an old address with no problems. Local government here also charges extra if you use anything besides cash or check.

Cadman

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 524
  • Location: Midwest
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2018, 06:43:16 PM »
The whole anti-check thing has always seemed strange to me. Why not just order 50 and keep them with your other office supplies? They don't go bad, and the savings in time and gas to drive to the bank the couple odd-times you might need one are worth it alone.

I know of several business that give you a 'cash discount' if you use a check instead of a CC, including a local gas station (10 cents off/gal). In fact, our county treasurer will charge you an extra 2.5% on property tax and car tag renewal if you try to use a credit card. Check? Free.

No reason not to keep a couple in the glovebox, or fold one up to keep inside your wallet or phone case. This has saved my bacon on more than one occasion.

I've been told that there's really no such equivalent in Europe anymore, that it's all done electronically. I've always wondered how people "wheel and deal" on side hustles in such a case. Carry lots of cash on you? Sometimes the best opportunities have caught me a couple hundred miles from home with no significant cash on me and no ATM in sight.


JLee

  • Walrus Stache
  • *******
  • Posts: 7685
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2018, 06:52:43 PM »
The whole anti-check thing has always seemed strange to me. Why not just order 50 and keep them with your other office supplies? They don't go bad, and the savings in time and gas to drive to the bank the couple odd-times you might need one are worth it alone.

I know of several business that give you a 'cash discount' if you use a check instead of a CC, including a local gas station (10 cents off/gal). In fact, our county treasurer will charge you an extra 2.5% on property tax and car tag renewal if you try to use a credit card. Check? Free.

No reason not to keep a couple in the glovebox, or fold one up to keep inside your wallet or phone case. This has saved my bacon on more than one occasion.

I've been told that there's really no such equivalent in Europe anymore, that it's all done electronically. I've always wondered how people "wheel and deal" on side hustles in such a case. Carry lots of cash on you? Sometimes the best opportunities have caught me a couple hundred miles from home with no significant cash on me and no ATM in sight.

I can mail checks for free through my bank - fill out the info/amount, and bam it's on the way.  I don't think I have ever lived in one place long enough where I'd go through one book of checks before I'd at least need an address change.

Chances of me taking a personal check for anything that would otherwise require "lots of cash"? Zero.  Venmo? Paypal? Sure!

Frankies Girl

  • Magnum Stache
  • ******
  • Posts: 3722
  • Age: 87
  • Location: The oubliette.
  • Ghouls Just Wanna Have Funds!
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2018, 06:57:28 PM »
THIS THREAD IS OVER 5 YEARS OLD. PLEASE DO NOT KEEP ADDING COMMENTARY - IT WAS BUMPED BACK TO LIFE BY SPAM.

Here's hoping the mods kill the zombie replies and let this poor shambling horror of a necrothread go back to the grave where it belongs...

Gronnie

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 630
  • Age: 39
  • Location: MN
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2018, 07:02:40 PM »
THIS THREAD IS OVER 5 YEARS OLD. PLEASE DO NOT KEEP ADDING COMMENTARY - IT WAS BUMPED BACK TO LIFE BY SPAM.

Here's hoping the mods kill the zombie replies and let this poor shambling horror of a necrothread go back to the grave where it belongs...

Sorry thread police.

By the fact that there is discussion going on it shows the topic (whether one needs checks) is still relevant and warrants discussion.

JLee

  • Walrus Stache
  • *******
  • Posts: 7685
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2018, 07:10:54 PM »
THIS THREAD IS OVER 5 YEARS OLD. PLEASE DO NOT KEEP ADDING COMMENTARY - IT WAS BUMPED BACK TO LIFE BY SPAM.

Here's hoping the mods kill the zombie replies and let this poor shambling horror of a necrothread go back to the grave where it belongs...

Sorry thread police.

By the fact that there is discussion going on it shows the topic (whether one needs checks) is still relevant and warrants discussion.

Yep.  The decision to prevent further discussion is one for a moderator to make.

I actually was paid by a friend with a paper check last week and this thread reminded me that I forgot to deposit it. I'm so used to electronic transfers..

Cadman

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 524
  • Location: Midwest
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2018, 07:54:52 PM »
Quote
I can mail checks for free through my bank - fill out the info/amount, and bam it's on the way.  I don't think I have ever lived in one place long enough where I'd go through one book of checks before I'd at least need an address change.

Chances of me taking a personal check for anything that would otherwise require "lots of cash"? Zero.  Venmo? Paypal? Sure!

Does the address thing matter? I honestly don't know. I've rec'd checks with the old one crossed out and new one written in.

But just because you'd be leery of accepting a check for some large amount doesn't mean it's not a good safety net to have them around in the reverse position. Half the people I've written checks to don't have Paypal, or Venmo, or even a smart phone. Agreeing to a price and then saying, okay, I'll be back as soon as I can find an ATM usually means the item is gone by the time I get back or the seller has had time to change their mind. A lot of auction companies still charge extra for a CC transaction, as do many estate sales. You can kiss that bargain Heywood-Wakefield set goodbye that you spotted on the way to work.

I'm not saying there aren't better options, just that checks can be a useful tool in the arsenal of cash and credit. And with most business accepting CC's these days, I honestly don't carry that much cash with me.

JLee

  • Walrus Stache
  • *******
  • Posts: 7685
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2018, 08:43:37 PM »
Quote
I can mail checks for free through my bank - fill out the info/amount, and bam it's on the way.  I don't think I have ever lived in one place long enough where I'd go through one book of checks before I'd at least need an address change.

Chances of me taking a personal check for anything that would otherwise require "lots of cash"? Zero.  Venmo? Paypal? Sure!

Does the address thing matter? I honestly don't know. I've rec'd checks with the old one crossed out and new one written in.

But just because you'd be leery of accepting a check for some large amount doesn't mean it's not a good safety net to have them around in the reverse position. Half the people I've written checks to don't have Paypal, or Venmo, or even a smart phone. Agreeing to a price and then saying, okay, I'll be back as soon as I can find an ATM usually means the item is gone by the time I get back or the seller has had time to change their mind. A lot of auction companies still charge extra for a CC transaction, as do many estate sales. You can kiss that bargain Heywood-Wakefield set goodbye that you spotted on the way to work.

I'm not saying there aren't better options, just that checks can be a useful tool in the arsenal of cash and credit. And with most business accepting CC's these days, I honestly don't carry that much cash with me.

You and I live in different worlds. :)

Morning Glory

  • Walrus Stache
  • *******
  • Posts: 5368
  • Location: The Garden Path
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2018, 08:59:03 PM »
I didn't realize it was an old thread, the dates are too small to read on my phone.

eaknet

  • 5 O'Clock Shadow
  • *
  • Posts: 43
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2018, 12:57:39 AM »
THIS THREAD IS OVER 5 YEARS OLD. PLEASE DO NOT KEEP ADDING COMMENTARY - IT WAS BUMPED BACK TO LIFE BY SPAM.

Here's hoping the mods kill the zombie replies and let this poor shambling horror of a necrothread go back to the grave where it belongs...

Sorry thread police.

By the fact that there is discussion going on it shows the topic (whether one needs checks) is still relevant and warrants discussion.

Yep.  The decision to prevent further discussion is one for a moderator to make.

I actually was paid by a friend with a paper check last week and this thread reminded me that I forgot to deposit it. I'm so used to electronic transfers..
Always a worthwhile discussion, “why do checks still exist,” etc. The fact is they’re still part of our banking world, and we keep some around for multiple purposes. A single box lasts for many years.

We could all rant about how electronic payments are better, cheaper, faster, etc....but unless you’re actively doing something about it, that’s all it is - ranting. Welcome to the internet.

JLee

  • Walrus Stache
  • *******
  • Posts: 7685
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2018, 12:59:52 AM »
THIS THREAD IS OVER 5 YEARS OLD. PLEASE DO NOT KEEP ADDING COMMENTARY - IT WAS BUMPED BACK TO LIFE BY SPAM.

Here's hoping the mods kill the zombie replies and let this poor shambling horror of a necrothread go back to the grave where it belongs...

Sorry thread police.

By the fact that there is discussion going on it shows the topic (whether one needs checks) is still relevant and warrants discussion.

Yep.  The decision to prevent further discussion is one for a moderator to make.

I actually was paid by a friend with a paper check last week and this thread reminded me that I forgot to deposit it. I'm so used to electronic transfers..
Always a worthwhile discussion, “why do checks still exist,” etc. The fact is they’re still part of our banking world, and we keep some around for multiple purposes. A single box lasts for many years.

We could all rant about how electronic payments are better, cheaper, faster, etc....but unless you’re actively doing something about it, that’s all it is - ranting. Welcome to the internet.

wat?

How on earth am I ranting?  I am doing something about it, though - I don't use checks....

eaknet

  • 5 O'Clock Shadow
  • *
  • Posts: 43
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2018, 01:18:07 AM »
THIS THREAD IS OVER 5 YEARS OLD. PLEASE DO NOT KEEP ADDING COMMENTARY - IT WAS BUMPED BACK TO LIFE BY SPAM.

Here's hoping the mods kill the zombie replies and let this poor shambling horror of a necrothread go back to the grave where it belongs...

Sorry thread police.

By the fact that there is discussion going on it shows the topic (whether one needs checks) is still relevant and warrants discussion.

Yep.  The decision to prevent further discussion is one for a moderator to make.

I actually was paid by a friend with a paper check last week and this thread reminded me that I forgot to deposit it. I'm so used to electronic transfers..
Always a worthwhile discussion, “why do checks still exist,” etc. The fact is they’re still part of our banking world, and we keep some around for multiple purposes. A single box lasts for many years.

We could all rant about how electronic payments are better, cheaper, faster, etc....but unless you’re actively doing something about it, that’s all it is - ranting. Welcome to the internet.

wat?

How on earth am I ranting?  I am doing something about it, though - I don't use checks....
Sorry about that, my comment wasn’t directed at you at all, I just happened to be replying to your post. The reason I used the Reply button was because I was agreeing with your statement that closing a thread was business for the mods. Hence my comment about it being a worthwhile discussion; that was serious.

The rest was 3AM stream of consciousness musing, more directed at the internet in general. It had nothing to do with the contents of your posts. My apologies for not clarifying.

JLee

  • Walrus Stache
  • *******
  • Posts: 7685
Re: Do we need to order checks from the bank?
« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2018, 01:22:37 AM »
THIS THREAD IS OVER 5 YEARS OLD. PLEASE DO NOT KEEP ADDING COMMENTARY - IT WAS BUMPED BACK TO LIFE BY SPAM.

Here's hoping the mods kill the zombie replies and let this poor shambling horror of a necrothread go back to the grave where it belongs...

Sorry thread police.

By the fact that there is discussion going on it shows the topic (whether one needs checks) is still relevant and warrants discussion.

Yep.  The decision to prevent further discussion is one for a moderator to make.

I actually was paid by a friend with a paper check last week and this thread reminded me that I forgot to deposit it. I'm so used to electronic transfers..
Always a worthwhile discussion, “why do checks still exist,” etc. The fact is they’re still part of our banking world, and we keep some around for multiple purposes. A single box lasts for many years.

We could all rant about how electronic payments are better, cheaper, faster, etc....but unless you’re actively doing something about it, that’s all it is - ranting. Welcome to the internet.

wat?

How on earth am I ranting?  I am doing something about it, though - I don't use checks....
Sorry about that, my comment wasn’t directed at you at all, I just happened to be replying to your post. The reason I used the Reply button was because I was agreeing with your statement that closing a thread was business for the mods. Hence my comment about it being a worthwhile discussion; that was serious.

The rest was 3AM stream of consciousness musing, more directed at the internet in general. It had nothing to do with the contents of your posts. My apologies for not clarifying.

Ahh ok, I'm not confused anymore :P