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NYCMustachian

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Disability insurance
« on: October 09, 2016, 02:11:16 PM »
Does anyone here have disability insurance? It's seems like my income is my #1 biggest asset and it may be worth the $15/month to protect it.

Thoughts?

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Re: Disability insurance
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2016, 02:14:40 PM »
I have it as does my husband.  I find it more likely to happen than death and very important to insure my income until I can live on my investments.

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Re: Disability insurance
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2016, 09:09:20 PM »
I have it through my work but my SAHD hubby has none.  Can SAHP purchase it?

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Re: Disability insurance
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2016, 09:17:52 PM »
I have it through my work but my SAHD hubby has none.  Can SAHP purchase it?

Disability insurance is to replace a percentage of your income, so I can't imagine that you could get it without income.

I have short-term and long-term disability through work, but also carry an individual LTD policy. (I don't necessarily plan on staying with my current job for very long and therefore it's better to just keep up the LTD than to have to go through underwriting again.)

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Re: Disability insurance
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2016, 12:43:30 AM »
Yep!  We have it, and I too, think it is more important than life insurance for us.   

You can buy it privately if you want some, but work does not offer it.   At least unlike life insurance, if you are between jobs, you really don't need it, so employer group plans work just fine.... 

Lower cost ones have a higher deductible, FYI.  (Deductible = months to wait before your first claim)

$15 per month seems like a "purchase quickly" level of value, OP.

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Re: Disability insurance
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2016, 04:25:33 AM »
To all US readers.  READ your policy.  Look for the "claw back". 

My brother had a LTDP.  The "claw back" was that for every dollar he got from Social Security Disability, the policy would "claw back" the same amount.  Also, if Social Security Administration denied his disability claim, the LT policy would not pay anything.

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Re: Disability insurance
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2016, 01:35:31 PM »
To all US readers.  READ your policy.  Look for the "claw back". 

My brother had a LTDP.  The "claw back" was that for every dollar he got from Social Security Disability, the policy would "claw back" the same amount.  Also, if Social Security Administration denied his disability claim, the LT policy would not pay anything.

You should definitely ask for the actual insurance documents and make sure you know what you're getting and that you're comfortable with the coverage you have. In my experience, work policies usually have some significant gotchas and you may or may not want a supplemental policy. Other things to look out for:

Own occupation or any occupation - Walmart greeter anyone?
Payout period  - Some policies only pay out for a certain amount of years
Definition of disabled - Who determines whether you are disabled or not? SSA? A review board? Your doctor?
Partial disability coverage - This is good if you have a reduced ability to work or a slow recovery period.
How long is long? - How long do you need to be disabled before benefits kick in?
COLA - Cost of living adjustments or fixed payout?
Amount - Percentage of income, limits, etc?

IIRC, my work policy covers so many years of disability for my own occupation at 60% of my income, but after that it switches to any occupation and I believe there's a maximum number of years it will pay out for, 5-10 I believe. An insurance review board determines my disability status. On the other hand, my personal policy covers up to a set amount of my income that I chose, less the amount that SSDI or other policies pay out. That's pretty typical AFAIK, but definitely evaluate your needs accordingly. It is my own occupation forever, pays out until full retirement age with cost of living adjustments, and disability is determined by my own personal doctor. It kicks in after 3 months and also covers partial disability where I have a reduced ability to work. As I get closer to FI, I can reduce the amount I am insured for until I drop it when I no longer need it, but in the meantime I should be covered even if SSA denies my claim or I run out of my work benefits.

NYCMustachian

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Re: Disability insurance
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2016, 06:18:03 PM »
I have it through my work but my SAHD hubby has none.  Can SAHP purchase it?


I'm sorry... what does SAHD and SAHP mean?

Thanks!

And thanks to everyone who responded! I'm going to have to look at a lot of fine print before I commit to anything.

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Re: Disability insurance
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2016, 06:23:05 PM »
You may find this discussion helpful: http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/post-fire/what-do-you-have-planned-for-longterm-care/

I think this is the meaning:
SAHD = stay at home dad
SAHP = stay at home parent

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Re: Disability insurance
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2016, 06:58:10 AM »
Yes, thanks for explaining my acronyms Exhale.  Sorry for confusing anyone.

NYCMustachian

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Re: Disability insurance
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2016, 07:31:43 AM »
Thanks, Exhale for the explanation and the link. But that seems to deal more with planning for long term care. I'm specifically interested in disability insurance. Still, I found the thread interesting

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Re: Disability insurance
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2016, 07:34:15 AM »
Yep!  We have it, and I too, think it is more important than life insurance for us.   

You can buy it privately if you want some, but work does not offer it.   At least unlike life insurance, if you are between jobs, you really don't need it, so employer group plans work just fine.... 

Lower cost ones have a higher deductible, FYI.  (Deductible = months to wait before your first claim)

$15 per month seems like a "purchase quickly" level of value, OP.

What do you mean by a "purchase quickly level of value"? Is DI usually more than that?

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Re: Disability insurance
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2016, 07:50:53 AM »
Yep!  We have it, and I too, think it is more important than life insurance for us.   

You can buy it privately if you want some, but work does not offer it.   At least unlike life insurance, if you are between jobs, you really don't need it, so employer group plans work just fine.... 

Lower cost ones have a higher deductible, FYI.  (Deductible = months to wait before your first claim)

$15 per month seems like a "purchase quickly" level of value, OP.

What do you mean by a "purchase quickly level of value"? Is DI usually more than that?
My husband pays $500/year for disability (so $41/month) for $1200/month covering his specific job so I'd say yes assuming this is coming your job not ANY job.

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Re: Disability insurance
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2016, 12:25:42 PM »
Yep!  We have it, and I too, think it is more important than life insurance for us.   

You can buy it privately if you want some, but work does not offer it.   At least unlike life insurance, if you are between jobs, you really don't need it, so employer group plans work just fine.... 

Lower cost ones have a higher deductible, FYI.  (Deductible = months to wait before your first claim)

$15 per month seems like a "purchase quickly" level of value, OP.
$15 per month seems like a "purchase it today" decision.
What do you mean by a "purchase quickly level of value"? Is DI usually more than that?

 

Wow, a phone plan for fifteen bucks!