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goldchucker

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Deleting Blog Comments?
« on: June 26, 2013, 05:30:14 AM »
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Re: Deleting Blog Comments?
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2013, 05:42:51 AM »
Do you actually have a question or are you asking people to give their opinion on some other blog's rules?

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Re: Deleting Blog Comments?
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2013, 05:47:56 AM »
Oh, I'm sorry.  Just sharing.

George_PA

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Re: Deleting Blog Comments?
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2013, 07:39:06 PM »
That article has a point; I wish that next to the comment box for this blog, they would at least have a small warning message that all comments are subject to moderation or review. 

The absence of this warning message gives a false impression that every comment will remain which isn't true.

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Re: Deleting Blog Comments?
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2013, 08:54:10 PM »
Have there been many deleted comments?

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Re: Deleting Blog Comments?
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2013, 09:04:39 PM »
Have there been many deleted comments?

From what I understand, MMM is not shy about deleting comments on the main blog.

One example, though there have been more.
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Re: Deleting Blog Comments?
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2013, 09:07:50 PM »
I had one of mine deleted. Wasn't the most productive comment though, I'll admit.

I like George_PA's idea; I had no clue comments were deleted until mine was.

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Re: Deleting Blog Comments?
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2013, 09:17:13 PM »
http://clubthrifty.com/deleting-blog-comments-is-for-pussies/
The whole blog post is "this is my opinion, and here's why: it's my opinion". I mean, could it possibly get more tautological?

I don't like it. Here's why I say that: because I don't like it.

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Re: Deleting Blog Comments?
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2013, 11:08:16 PM »
Having read some of Holly's early contributions to GRS, and not been very impressed, I think this post is the most intelligent thing I've ever seen from her.

She basically says "if you activate the comments section on your blog, you should allow people to comment on your blog".  I think it's hard to argue with that in a way that isn't either self-contradictory or ridiculous.

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Re: Deleting Blog Comments?
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2013, 04:14:31 AM »
I'm as big a MMM fan as many are here, however I find it ironic how MMM's blog post comment sections sometimes read more like the sort of positively-spun infomercial testimonial he would despise rather than a balanced discussion that entertains majorly dissenting views. Thankfully, this forum allows more balanced discussions, albeit sans MMM involvement. Nonetheless, this is still one of my favourite sites on the internet, so it can't be that big a deal for me.


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Re: Deleting Blog Comments?
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2013, 06:00:43 AM »
I just avoid commenting on blog posts. I think it's a terrible form of engagement personally. It just doesn't work to have the same back and forth I can have here.

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Re: Deleting Blog Comments?
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2013, 06:10:48 AM »
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Re: Deleting Blog Comments?
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2013, 07:35:05 AM »
She basically says "if you activate the comments section on your blog, you should allow people to comment on your blog".  I think it's hard to argue with that in a way that isn't either self-contradictory or ridiculous.

Actually, it's hard to argue that if you activate the comments section, you should allow all comments through. That's one approach, but it's based on personal opinion. Why should someone let all the comments through? Because you don't like it when they don't? Because "censorship"?

Too often when we write on the web, our tone is, "You're wrong, and you suck!" I'm fine with deleting comments like that. That's the sort of thing that drove ERE Jacob away from blogging.

If anyone has the text of a comment that MMM deleted, I'd be interested to see it.

And why are goldchucker's links even allowed to stay when all her posts are just naked links to a for-profit blog? Moderator, consider editing to remove spam links.

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Re: Deleting Blog Comments?
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2013, 09:28:33 AM »
And why are goldchucker's links even allowed to stay when all her posts are just naked links to a for-profit blog? Moderator, consider editing to remove spam links.

Missed the pattern, good catch.

Every single post except this one:
Oh, I'm sorry.  Just sharing.

was a naked link with no discussion direct to that site.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2013, 09:40:20 AM by arebelspy »
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Re: Deleting Blog Comments?
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2013, 11:27:28 AM »
  I have no problems with blog commented being edited/removed.  I have seem to much Monty Python's argument clinic being posted.  Some just want to create controversy. 

  "I disagree" - Snot
Moderator - "OK."
  "I really disagree" - Snot
Moderator - "sure."
  "I hate it" - Snot
Moderator - "The why are you still reading it?"
  "Cause I hate it." - Snot
Moderator - "Please go somewhere else."
  "deleted by Moderator" - Snot
Moderator - "See I do get the last word.  Good-bye snot."

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Re: Deleting Blog Comments?
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2013, 07:17:56 PM »
everyone makes good points;

Of course we have to remember that this MMM's blog.  He busted his ass to build it so it does not matter what anyone else thinks about whether blog comments should be delete or not.  He is the final decision maker on the issue.  Heck he could shut this whole thing down tomorrow and there is nothing me or you could do about it.


That being said, the problem with the selectively censorship, is that casts a glimpse of doubt into the validity of the positive feedback shown on the main blog's pages.  The fact that we know any least some comments have been removed, yet we don't know what those comments said, means that there is not full disclosure.  Thus, how can one truly trust that the positive comments posted really are an accurate public measure of opinions expressed? 

How do we know whether legitimate criticism has been blocked or not?  I think this what is prompted, in part, a discussion on reddit recently criticizing MMM's moderation.  I like this blog and however this comment moderation might a source as to why it does not get more credit from the general public.  I don't know whether allowing every comment through is best solution though, however I think this reasoning explains why some people doubt the feedback as being so positive.
 
« Last Edit: June 28, 2013, 07:22:07 PM by George_PA »

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Re: Deleting Blog Comments?
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2013, 08:02:28 PM »
From the giant section of comments, I didn't think there was much moderation, especially considering the amount of opposing opinion I would find. One thing moderation is good for though is to prevent trolls and malcontents from steering the conversation into useless ditches and bickering. This obviously can be used to silence factual and honest disagreeance (not simple arguing without facts), which unfortunately has been used here as well. I find it a sign of weakness to take this course, though I'm actually glad about it as it once again forces me to question EVERYTHING. If a blog owner cannot accept a simple fact directly contradicting his conclusion, I'll just be that much more careful about whatever else he states. I urge others to as well. Don't take anyone as an absolute authority.

Edit-perhaps I took it too personally, apparently others don't get their comments posted for random other reasons as well. :-/
« Last Edit: June 28, 2013, 08:21:45 PM by -JR »