Covid vaccine rollout in the US - who do you know that is getting the vaccine?

[HPstache]

Getting my Moderna Microchip installed today!

[JLee]

I just became eligible in my state and got my first Pfizer shot a couple days ago -- #2 is scheduled for early May. Can't wait!

[the_fixer]

Getting my Moderna Microchip installed today!

One note of caution.

Open your eyes slowly the morning after getting your Moderna shot.

It takes a while to learn how to control the 5G lasers that you are now equipped with. I damn near blew a hole in the roof of my house fortunately the ceiling fan was in the way and took the brunt of the blast.

Pro Tip -
Heating your lunch is easier than ever you can just blast it with your new Moderna Lasers... I set mine to stun and give it about 3 seconds, turn / flip and another 3 seconds on stun and BAM heat and eat from the comfort of your couch. (Make sure product reaches 175 internal temp before serving)


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[ChickenStash]

Wait, y'all are getting frickin laser beam eyes with the Moderna shot?!? All I got from the Pfizer shot was a few days of feeling sick. This sucks. I want my money back.

[Villanelle]

My god, I have a psycho semantics reaction to needles.  I hate them so much I have fainted getting a finger poke.  I tell the medical professionals ahead of time and have learned not to look.

Is that where someone says something that misuses a word and it drives you a bit bonkers when you hear it?  In that case, I had a psycho semantics reaction to this post!  ;) 

[jeroly]

My god, I have a psycho semantics reaction to needles.  I hate them so much I have fainted getting a finger poke.  I tell the medical professionals ahead of time and have learned not to look.

Is that where someone says something that misuses a word and it drives you a bit bonkers when you hear it?  In that case, I had a psycho semantics reaction to this post!  ;)

I think you’d enjoy the subreddit r/BoneAppleTea, which is filled with malapropisms like this one!

[RetiredAt63]

Wait, y'all are getting frickin laser beam eyes with the Moderna shot?!? All I got from the Pfizer shot was a few days of feeling sick. This sucks. I want my money back.

Same here.  Maybe we can get Moderna for our second shot?  I want laser beam eyes.

[Dollar Slice]

Wait, y'all are getting frickin laser beam eyes with the Moderna shot?!? All I got from the Pfizer shot was a few days of feeling sick. This sucks. I want my money back.

Same here.  Maybe we can get Moderna for our second shot?  I want laser beam eyes.

You don't want to mix them. Then the microchip in your arm from Pfizer shoots Moderna lasers and it lops your arm right off at the shoulder. Happened to a friend of mine. ;-)

[By the River]

You don't want to mix them. Then the microchip in your arm from Pfizer shoots Moderna lasers and it lops your arm right off at the shoulder. Happened to a friend of mine. ;-)

I heard if you get a mix of the two, its called an Arnold Pharma

[dougules]

Wait, y'all are getting frickin laser beam eyes with the Moderna shot?!? All I got from the Pfizer shot was a few days of feeling sick. This sucks. I want my money back.

Same here.  Maybe we can get Moderna for our second shot?  I want laser beam eyes.

You don't want to mix them. Then the microchip in your arm from Pfizer shoots Moderna lasers and it lops your arm right off at the shoulder. Happened to a friend of mine. ;-)

It doesn't matter which shot you get because it's all the same Microsoft chip.  We all know Bill Gates is the ultimate mastermind. 

[better late]

You don't want to mix them. Then the microchip in your arm from Pfizer shoots Moderna lasers and it lops your arm right off at the shoulder. Happened to a friend of mine. ;-)

I heard if you get a mix of the two, its called an Arnold Pharma

Ha! That made me chuckle :)

[EngineerOurFI]

Vaccine availability has completely shifted in my area (in a good way).  There are ten Walgreens locations within 15 miles of my house that have available appointments within next 24-72 hours for Johnson and Johnson vaccine.  If you apply to the county waitlist in any of the 3-4 neighboring counties, I know of dozens of people that have gotten appointments within ~5-7 days of applying to the waitlist.  Some within less than 3 days.  Basically anyone that wants the vaccine and has bothered to apply to a waitlist or do a couple google searches has been able to schedule an appointment.  Issue I'm seeing now is a large number of "vaccine hesitant" folks.  Anecdotally, I would say 30-40% of folks I know are delaying or refusing to get vaccinated for one reason or another.  Only ~10% of the people in my closer bubble/circle are refusing to get vaccinated.....the variance is likely a reflection of my general choices to not associate myself as closely with anti-vaxxers or far-right folks etc......but even among moderates I know some folks who are scared of a rushed vaccine, etc.

I've received my first Pfizer shot and am getting second one this week.  I received mine at a county mass vaccination site and I must say the vaccination process was exceptionally smooth - perhaps the most streamlined government-run process I've ever been party to.

[engineerjourney]

My brother got his 1st dose last Monday.  Husband and I got our 1st dose of Pfizer last Friday.  We are all in our 30s.  Extremely well run vaccination site at one of the local casino convention centers.  People in uniform (national guard?) were helping and seemed very happy to be there!  I am 26wks pregnant and had no issues.  Arms were sore for both husband and I but I thought it was better than the Tdap you get during pregnancy so pretty un-phased.  Hoping we both don't get too much reaction to the 2nd dose that we will get on the 30th.. since we have two kids under 5 to take care of the next day, whoops on scheduling together for that, maybe I will try to get my parents to take them overnight just in case and they are fully vaccinated.

[jehovasfitness23]

JnJ shots paused for now.

https://www.king5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine/fda-cdc-pause-johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccines/507-38e11e66-1e96-46ea-97a7-0569a6956d02

[By the River]

I just hit 14 days after the second shot so I guess my immunity is fully formed (I know not bulletproof but close).  Just in time as we all started working full time at the office again this week.  I no longer wear my mask when my coworkers (also vaccinated) come into my office or when we are in a conference room.  But I still wear it in public areas of the buildings and inside stores/other buildings. 

[Adventine]

I'm done with my Pfizer shots. I didn't experience any side effects with the first dose, but a few hours after my second dose, the fatigue hit me pretty hard. I felt much better a day later. And nothing beats the peace of mind of being fully vaccinated.

[Raenia]

So Federally-based J&J vaccinations are paused, but still uncertain what is happening with State-based supplied sites - one of my coworkers who had an appointment today was told she'll be getting Moderna instead of J&J.  Two others haven't been told anything, one had his appointment cancelled.  I haven't heard anything about our appointments tomorrow, will call the pharmacy this afternoon to find out if we should still come, and if we'll still be getting J&J or if we need to book a second appointment.

I'm more than willing to take a 1-in-a-million risk to get the shot - I'll be taking worse odds driving to the site and back.  Just have to see if they're still willing to give it to me.

[better late]

My immediate family is vaccinated and 80% of my extended family is also vaccinated (many health care workers).  Friends mostly have had their second shots too. I’m amazed and feeling so fortunate.

[Trifle]

I just got Pfizer #2 -- so happy!  I didn't have any side effects from #1, so fingers crossed for the same this time around. 

I'm surprised they paused the J&J for 1 bad side effect per million . . . I wonder what the regular rate of bad side effects is for a new vaccine.  I would totally get a shot at those odds -- 1 in a million is not concerning, to me.   

[waltworks]

For all practical purposes, the CDC just decided to horribly exacerbate the vaccine hesitancy/refusal problem.

The J&J shot would be worth giving people even if it outright killed one in a million right on the spot. We're still averaging what, 730 or so deaths a day? Even if you gave the J&J vaccine to every adult in the US, you'd only kill 1/3 of the people we are losing EVERY DAY.

Madness. We have collectively lost the ability to assess relative risk.

-W

[MudPuppy]

I agree, @waltworks.  The vaccines are all still safer than actually catching Covid. The vaccine-hesitant just have some sort of cognitive dissonance that Covid won’t happen to them or if it does they certainly won’t have issues with it.

[verfrugal]

Yah, the J&J pause seemed counter-productive to me when I first read it this morning, especially when the same people announcing it are also saying that the side effect prevalance is less than that of oral contraceptives.

So, I'll start with the assumption that they know what they are doing and understanding statistics and the data better than I do, and likely have a more detailed statistical model than what limited data I have available.

Could it be that the observed incidents is lower, but with the number of shots administered thus far, the confidence interval is wider, and thus actual prevalance could be much worse or much better than observed?

Could it be that with two other vaccines available that are exhibiting these effects, the decrease in vaccination rate from the pause of J&J is not significant?  It would appear that J&J doses are not getting into arms (4.9m out of ~14m distributed as of April 9th) -- less than 5% of shots going into arms according to the vaccine "czar" in the Biden admin.

They likely are looking at bands of age/risk and not just total population too.  This is happening in younger women, so we would want to compare the observed rate to the observed rate of that same cohort to have similiar impactful effects from covid (which is MUCH lower than the general population).

In short, they are not making a decision between J&J to everyone and J*J to noone, they are making a decision to pause administration of 1/20th of their current vaccinations (by administration).  They may re-instate, changing guidance on who gets it.

I think they are acting in an environment where there is great anxiety about these vaccines.  There is also the complications of communication, sensational headlines, limited public understanding and information.  Modern public health organizations understand plasticity of compliance decisions.  What set of people will *change* their behavior after this announcement?  About getting J&J, about getting any covid vaccine?  Would they delay it or not get it at all?  Would it improve or reduce their trust in subsequent CDC

I don't think the CDC has lost that ability to assess risk, I think they have a more sophisticated model, more data and more options.

EDIT:

Apparently the fact that current practices for treating the symptoms exacerbates the risk... So this is as much about ensuring guidance on treatment is updated as anything else....

https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/04/us-cdc-fda-call-for-pause-in-use-of-jj-vaccine-due-to-rare-blood-clots/

[Trifle]

Hey @turketron, and anyone else in Madison, WI -- have you been having any luck with Walgreens?  I'm trying to schedule an appointment for my MIL for her second Moderna shot (long story) and coming up short in the city itself.  If I go as far out as Viroqua, no problem . . . but it seems like the city is pretty booked up.  Grateful for any tips! 

[iluvzbeach]

@Trifele, check out the vaccinespotter.org search tool. It looks like the closest spots with availability are 50-60 miles away.

[Trifle]

Thanks @iluvzbeach!

[jehovasfitness23]

I just hit 14 days after the second shot so I guess my immunity is fully formed (I know not bulletproof but close).  Just in time as we all started working full time at the office again this week.  I no longer wear my mask when my coworkers (also vaccinated) come into my office or when we are in a conference room.  But I still wear it in public areas of the buildings and inside stores/other buildings.

As long as every adult at your house is also vaxxed would be ideal or for your co-workers as well.

It looks like very little risk but still not certain if vaxxed asymptos can spread it.

[YoungGranny]

Got my second dose of Moderna yesterday evening. My arm is less sore than the first dose and I don't have any other side effects, fingers crossed it stays that way :)

[waltworks]

So, I'll start with the assumption that they know what they are doing and understanding statistics and the data better than I do, and likely have a more detailed statistical model than what limited data I have available.

Normally I would agree with this, but I've lost a lot of confidence after it took _2 months_ to allow Moderna to fill vials all the way up with 15 doses (which would have gotten a lot of doses out/in a lot quicker). That's such an easy decision to make that I'm still scratching my head about it - the FDA literally killed people by not letting Moderna put 15 doses in a vial that holds... 15 doses.

-W

[turketron]

Hey @turketron, and anyone else in Madison, WI -- have you been having any luck with Walgreens?  I'm trying to schedule an appointment for my MIL for her second Moderna shot (long story) and coming up short in the city itself.  If I go as far out as Viroqua, no problem . . . but it seems like the city is pretty booked up.  Grateful for any tips!

I know some other folks who were able to get them thru Walgreens, but that was before it opened up to anyone 16+, and my wife and I didn't have any luck ourselves. We booked ours through SSM who had plenty of openings throughout the Madison area (at least for first shots). Their online scheduling is for first shots only but it looks like there's a number you can call and they may be able to assist with scheduling just the second one for your MIL: https://www.ssmhealth.com/newsroom/2021/1/covid-19-vaccine-rollout-in-wisconsin

I also know the WI DHS is doing vaccines at the Alliant Energy Center, but I can't see appointment times without fully completing their registration form. There's a number listed to call on this page as well so they may be able to help out: https://vaccinate.wi.gov/en-US/

Good luck!

[Trifle]

Hey @turketron, and anyone else in Madison, WI -- have you been having any luck with Walgreens?  I'm trying to schedule an appointment for my MIL for her second Moderna shot (long story) and coming up short in the city itself.  If I go as far out as Viroqua, no problem . . . but it seems like the city is pretty booked up.  Grateful for any tips!

I know some other folks who were able to get them thru Walgreens, but that was before it opened up to anyone 16+, and my wife and I didn't have any luck ourselves. We booked ours through SSM who had plenty of openings throughout the Madison area (at least for first shots). Their online scheduling is for first shots only but it looks like there's a number you can call and they may be able to assist with scheduling just the second one for your MIL: https://www.ssmhealth.com/newsroom/2021/1/covid-19-vaccine-rollout-in-wisconsin

I also know the WI DHS is doing vaccines at the Alliant Energy Center, but I can't see appointment times without fully completing their registration form. There's a number listed to call on this page as well so they may be able to help out: https://vaccinate.wi.gov/en-US/

Good luck!

Thank you so much @turketron!

[verfrugal]

So, I'll start with the assumption that they know what they are doing and understanding statistics and the data better than I do, and likely have a more detailed statistical model than what limited data I have available.

Normally I would agree with this, but I've lost a lot of confidence after it took _2 months_ to allow Moderna to fill vials all the way up with 15 doses (which would have gotten a lot of doses out/in a lot quicker). That's such an easy decision to make that I'm still scratching my head about it - the FDA literally killed people by not letting Moderna put 15 doses in a vial that holds... 15 doses.

-W

Their original vials were smaller.  You are over-simplifying.

I don't expect any clarification or counter-evidence of these matters to change your lack of confidence in these institutions tho -- my evidence being that you blame the FDA for killing people over the packaging of a vaccine.  I don't think that's in any way reasonable and is likely a rhetorical expression of your fear and anger over what *we* went thru in the last year.  Me, you, the people who made those decisions, the people reading this forum.  I hear, and have shared, that fear and anger.  I have made similiar over-simplifications, lost trust in institutions too.

Calming down, taking the time to dig into things before I got triggered or upset about headlines, and remembering that other humans around me are falllable like me, but also intelligent, and capable like me...  That is what helps.

Stay frosty Walter 8^)

[ixtap]

I was able to get DH scheduled for tomorrow when I tried at 2am, but then I remembered that he just had a tetanus shot last week, so he has to wait a few more days. And I cannot find another open date for him, especially since the supercenter closest to us was giving J&J.

[mizzourah2006]

Curious why they are continuing with the original idea of 2 shots when the new evidence coming out suggests that one shot gets you to 80-85% efficacy and the booster is more advantageous if it is spread out further than the proposed 21 or 28 days. Seems like having 60% of the country at 80% efficacy is better than 30% of the country at 95% efficacy to me. Then everyone can get a booster in the June/July timeframe.

[Raenia]

So Federally-based J&J vaccinations are paused, but still uncertain what is happening with State-based supplied sites - one of my coworkers who had an appointment today was told she'll be getting Moderna instead of J&J.  Two others haven't been told anything, one had his appointment cancelled.  I haven't heard anything about our appointments tomorrow, will call the pharmacy this afternoon to find out if we should still come, and if we'll still be getting J&J or if we need to book a second appointment.

I'm more than willing to take a 1-in-a-million risk to get the shot - I'll be taking worse odds driving to the site and back.  Just have to see if they're still willing to give it to me.

Our appointments were cancelled :(  DH was able to schedule through his work, so he now has his first dose Friday.  After a long day of fighting with websites, I managed to schedule for the following Friday.  I'll be getting Moderna.  DH doesn't know yet which he'll be getting, but either is fine.

[the_fixer]

Curious why they are continuing with the original idea of 2 shots when the new evidence coming out suggests that one shot gets you to 80-85% efficacy and the booster is more advantageous if it is spread out further than the proposed 21 or 28 days. Seems like having 60% of the country at 80% efficacy is better than 30% of the country at 95% efficacy to me. Then everyone can get a booster in the June/July timeframe.

I for one am glad they are sticking to the tested / recommend method I would rather not have politicians deciding to push out the timeline.

If the manufacturer has tested, recommended and it was approved to push the timeline then I would be ok with that as well.

But honestly with the amount of vaccine being provided and the amount of shots being administered I am guessing everyone that wants it will be fully vaccinated by June / July if their state is doing a good job so not sure it will make that much of a difference. Supply of vaccine is going to out pace people willing to take it in the next few months here in the US and that will be the real struggle.

As of yesterday 38% of Colorado has had at least one shot. And that does not account for the kids under 16 (around 25% of the state population) that are not eligible so guessing we are in the ~60% range of the eligible population with one shot in mid April and Colorado is kind of middle of the pack for administering shots.


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[waltworks]

One shot ASAP has been tested. On a whole country (the UK). It worked *awesome*.

If that's not enough evidence, I don't really know what to say.

When you have a deadly disease, you have to be aggressive. Regulators have been much, much too cautious.

-W

[redhead84]

Hey @turketron, and anyone else in Madison, WI -- have you been having any luck with Walgreens?  I'm trying to schedule an appointment for my MIL for her second Moderna shot (long story) and coming up short in the city itself.  If I go as far out as Viroqua, no problem . . . but it seems like the city is pretty booked up.  Grateful for any tips!

I know some other folks who were able to get them thru Walgreens, but that was before it opened up to anyone 16+, and my wife and I didn't have any luck ourselves. We booked ours through SSM who had plenty of openings throughout the Madison area (at least for first shots). Their online scheduling is for first shots only but it looks like there's a number you can call and they may be able to assist with scheduling just the second one for your MIL: https://www.ssmhealth.com/newsroom/2021/1/covid-19-vaccine-rollout-in-wisconsin

I also know the WI DHS is doing vaccines at the Alliant Energy Center, but I can't see appointment times without fully completing their registration form. There's a number listed to call on this page as well so they may be able to help out: https://vaccinate.wi.gov/en-US/

Good luck!

My co-workers Mom does scheduling for SSM, and she said they are booked through mid-June right now in Madison but have a lot more availability outside of Dane County. That was before the J&J pause, and they were distributing all 3 vaccines so it may be even more difficult. She said you'll definitely need to call and explain the situation to ensure you get a second dose Moderna appointment as the online bookings are designed for first doses as most locations schedule the second dose automatically. Good luck!

[mizzourah2006]

Curious why they are continuing with the original idea of 2 shots when the new evidence coming out suggests that one shot gets you to 80-85% efficacy and the booster is more advantageous if it is spread out further than the proposed 21 or 28 days. Seems like having 60% of the country at 80% efficacy is better than 30% of the country at 95% efficacy to me. Then everyone can get a booster in the June/July timeframe.

I for one am glad they are sticking to the tested / recommend method I would rather not have politicians deciding to push out the timeline.

If the manufacturer has tested, recommended and it was approved to push the timeline then I would be ok with that as well.

But honestly with the amount of vaccine being provided and the amount of shots being administered I am guessing everyone that wants it will be fully vaccinated by June / July if their state is doing a good job so not sure it will make that much of a difference. Supply of vaccine is going to out pace people willing to take it in the next few months here in the US and that will be the real struggle.

As of yesterday 38% of Colorado has had at least one shot. And that does not account for the kids under 16 (around 25% of the state population) that are not eligible so guessing we are in the ~60% range of the eligible population with one shot in mid April and Colorado is kind of middle of the pack for administering shots.


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I would have agreed with your timeline when JNJ was an option. It'll be interesting to see what happens to the timeline if JNJ is shelved for any significant period of time. I had considered waiting a bit for more appointments to remain open so I could be sure I wasn't taking an opportunity from someone more in need, but had decided to go out to rural Oklahoma a few weeks ago where appointments were abundant. I'm certainly glad I did so now. I think in my area appointments are going to begin to become hard to get like in many other areas of the US if JNJ is indeed shelved.

[OtherJen]

One shot ASAP has been tested. On a whole country (the UK). It worked *awesome*.

If that's not enough evidence, I don't really know what to say.

When you have a deadly disease, you have to be aggressive. Regulators have been much, much too cautious.

-W

The UK has also been in lockdown for months, and not everyone is eligible. My colleagues in England are in their 30s and still unvaccinated.

I think it's a strategy worth considering, but the UK case has a major confounding factor.

[the_fixer]

One shot ASAP has been tested. On a whole country (the UK). It worked *awesome*.

If that's not enough evidence, I don't really know what to say.

When you have a deadly disease, you have to be aggressive. Regulators have been much, much too cautious.

-W

I am glad it worked for the UK but the fact remains that they went against what was recommended / tested at the time and rolled the dice and took a chance.

All I am saying is that for me personally I am glad we followed the recommendations instead of trying to experiment. It gives me faith that the people making the decisions are doing so based on tested, vetted scientific data that they had at the time.

Maybe they will change the recommendation going forward based on the data they have now and that is great.

If you are talking US centric we are already at the point where supply is greater than demand in some states so it is kind of moot at this point. Now for getting the world vaccinated this could be greats news maybe the recommendation will change and they can get it spread far and wide I am all for getting everyone vaccinated ASAP in a safe and effective manner.


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[the_fixer]

Curious why they are continuing with the original idea of 2 shots when the new evidence coming out suggests that one shot gets you to 80-85% efficacy and the booster is more advantageous if it is spread out further than the proposed 21 or 28 days. Seems like having 60% of the country at 80% efficacy is better than 30% of the country at 95% efficacy to me. Then everyone can get a booster in the June/July timeframe.

I for one am glad they are sticking to the tested / recommend method I would rather not have politicians deciding to push out the timeline.

If the manufacturer has tested, recommended and it was approved to push the timeline then I would be ok with that as well.

But honestly with the amount of vaccine being provided and the amount of shots being administered I am guessing everyone that wants it will be fully vaccinated by June / July if their state is doing a good job so not sure it will make that much of a difference. Supply of vaccine is going to out pace people willing to take it in the next few months here in the US and that will be the real struggle.

As of yesterday 38% of Colorado has had at least one shot. And that does not account for the kids under 16 (around 25% of the state population) that are not eligible so guessing we are in the ~60% range of the eligible population with one shot in mid April and Colorado is kind of middle of the pack for administering shots.


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I would have agreed with your timeline when JNJ was an option. It'll be interesting to see what happens to the timeline if JNJ is shelved for any significant period of time. I had considered waiting a bit for more appointments to remain open so I could be sure I wasn't taking an opportunity from someone more in need, but had decided to go out to rural Oklahoma a few weeks ago where appointments were abundant. I'm certainly glad I did so now. I think in my area appointments are going to begin to become hard to get like in many other areas of the US if JNJ is indeed shelved.

Even with the pause in J&J we are hitting new highs of over 60k shots per day in Colorado over the last few days maybe we will see the impact in a few weeks or a month I suppose time will tell but I do not think I am that far off on my guesstimate.


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[waltworks]

Number of doses per day is steadily rising, so it's silly to make predictions based on today's numbers. But people are not great with exponential thinking, so we keep reading articles about "at current pace it'll take until August!".

Some places will also finish with everyone who wants a vaccine and then that supply will go elsewhere, so the endgame will be a lot quicker than you might think.

My own county is now at 75% and a lot of things are starting to go to normal again - but we won't need any doses at all soon, so they can go elsewhere. No masks at the rec centers, it was awesome today!

-W

[Acastus]

My family each ended up with different vaccine dispensers. Wife went 1st through her oncologist connection, using the county mass distribution site. I got the quickest appointment at a pharmacy a few towns over. My son got his at the state run mass distribution site across town. We are 2 weeks from all getting 2 injections, 4 weeks from fully immunized.

Try multiple appointment web sites for the best slot.

[sui generis]

Got the shot Tuesday as did my sister, coincidentally.  She went with her husband (an educator) for his second shot and they offered her her first, so she took it.  Both of us had incredibly sore arms, and I had even more pain in my my rib cage (up near my armpit) for a day.  I assume swollen lymph nodes, but it really felt like something was broken in my rib cage.  Anyway, all better now, but given the talk about the severity of the effects of second dose and yet the small increase in immunity it provides....we were definitely talking about not getting the second shot in a kidding/not kidding way.  We're rule followers so we will, but....

[Dollar Slice]

Got the shot Tuesday as did my sister, coincidentally.  She went with her husband (an educator) for his second shot and they offered her her first, so she took it.  Both of us had incredibly sore arms, and I had even more pain in my my rib cage (up near my armpit) for a day.  I assume swollen lymph nodes, but it really felt like something was broken in my rib cage.  Anyway, all better now, but given the talk about the severity of the effects of second dose and yet the small increase in immunity it provides....we were definitely talking about not getting the second shot in a kidding/not kidding way.  We're rule followers so we will, but....

I actually had much less soreness in my arm for the second one. The only thing I did differently was to stretch, flex, and rub the muscle periodically for about 6 hours after getting it - I had heard that helped by making it less focused in one spot and helping it spread around instead of staying in the muscle. Not sure if that worked or if it was for some other reason, but it went from "can't sleep on this side for two days" after #1 to "hardly worth mentioning" after #2.

My mom did have worse arm soreness on the 2nd one, but she didn't do the stretch-n-flex routine. So my extremely small anecdata set says 100% of people who stretch, rub and flex their arm muscle significantly improve arm pain. ;-)

[sui generis]

Got the shot Tuesday as did my sister, coincidentally.  She went with her husband (an educator) for his second shot and they offered her her first, so she took it.  Both of us had incredibly sore arms, and I had even more pain in my my rib cage (up near my armpit) for a day.  I assume swollen lymph nodes, but it really felt like something was broken in my rib cage.  Anyway, all better now, but given the talk about the severity of the effects of second dose and yet the small increase in immunity it provides....we were definitely talking about not getting the second shot in a kidding/not kidding way.  We're rule followers so we will, but....

I actually had much less soreness in my arm for the second one. The only thing I did differently was to stretch, flex, and rub the muscle periodically for about 6 hours after getting it - I had heard that helped by making it less focused in one spot and helping it spread around instead of staying in the muscle. Not sure if that worked or if it was for some other reason, but it went from "can't sleep on this side for two days" after #1 to "hardly worth mentioning" after #2.

My mom did have worse arm soreness on the 2nd one, but she didn't do the stretch-n-flex routine. So my extremely small anecdata set says 100% of people who stretch, rub and flex their arm muscle significantly improve arm pain. ;-)

I did lots of stretching and flexing, but no rubbing.  That must be the key step!

[Dollar Slice]

I did lots of stretching and flexing, but no rubbing.  That must be the key step!

Well, dang. There goes my extremely scientific theory based on one data point and something I read on Facebook!

[MudPuppy]

@Dollar Slice @sui generis i had worse soreness at the second and my spouse had none at all! Neither of us had flu like symptoms with either dose, though.

[desk_jockey]

Got my 2nd Moderna story yesterday.  Feel like ass today.  Sore and exhausted like the first but this time with chills too.   Used the Kroger Pharmacy website as I knew we could get Moderna there.  Site was a bit of a pain a month ago because you had to find the availability for the 2nd shot at the same pharmacy exactly 28 days later or it wouldn’t let you book either appointment.   But now I’m done until the boosters come out. 

[Trifle]

Got my second Pfizer three days ago.  No symptoms to speak of, just a tiny soreness at the injection site like the first time.  Hope that doesn't mean anything bad, like my immune system isn't kicking in or something . . .