Author Topic: Churning IRA accounts?  (Read 1934 times)

Arktinkerer

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Churning IRA accounts?
« on: April 04, 2015, 06:43:09 PM »
Been lurking a while.  Great site! 

Saw the info on churning credit cards.  I wondered if anyone had engaged in churing their IRAs?  Several offer $500 or more for opening an IRA.  Looking at stepping away from corporate world soon and was thinking of rolling the 401K to multiple IRAs and then consolidating after a year.  Percentage wise it may be small but picking up a couple thousand dollars for a couple phone calls is nothing to ignore.

Not sure if you couldn't continue to do this every year or two...
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retireatbirth

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Re: Churning IRA accounts?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2015, 06:49:59 PM »
I think the IRS limits your rollovers between IRAs, but not 100% sure if the details.

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Re: Churning IRA accounts?
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2015, 09:09:03 PM »
I think the IRS limits your rollovers between IRAs, but not 100% sure if the details.

I'm pretty sure the limit is on indirect rollovers.  So that limit does not apply to direct rollovers.

http://www.irs.gov/Retirement-Plans/IRA-One-Rollover-Per-Year-Rule
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Direct transfers of IRA money are not limited
This change wonít affect your ability to transfer funds from one IRA trustee directly to another, because this type of transfer isnít a rollover (Revenue Ruling 78-406, 1978-2 C.B. 157). The one-rollover-per-year rule of Internal Revenue Code Section 408(d)(3)(B) applies only to rollovers

OP, sounds like it could be a lot of work keeping track of things, especially if you churn multiple accounts, but theoretically it could work.

SaintM

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Re: Churning IRA accounts?
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2015, 10:08:46 PM »
There is almost always a fee for closing IRA accounts and moving assets out.  This will eat into your new account bonuses.

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Re: Churning IRA accounts?
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2015, 10:12:58 PM »
I just rolled my IRA over to a new provider and it took about 2 weeks total out of the market. I lost a lot on the market gains during that time being out of the market. I do not think this is worth it.

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Re: Churning IRA accounts?
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2015, 12:09:16 AM »
I just rolled my IRA over to a new provider and it took about 2 weeks total out of the market. I lost a lot on the market gains during that time being out of the market. I do not think this is worth it.

You should be able to transfer securities directly from one provider to another, especially if you use Vanguard ETFs instead of mutual funds.