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Car Year Trend
« on: March 22, 2017, 06:30:46 AM »
So a random thought popped into my head yesterday as I was driving to work and I thought it may be an interesting trend to see with other Mustachians. What are the different year models of cars that you have owned? It made me chuckle because of the reverse trend once I learned of MMM and began to think about my finances more closes. What about everyone else?

  • 2001
  • 2004
  • 2013*
  • 2001
  • 2009

*It was three months into my 36 month lease that I found MMM and really started getting my finances in order.

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2017, 06:36:56 AM »
Model Year - Purchase Year - Purchase Price

1998 - 2003 - $2800
2001 - 2006 - $5200
2004 - 2010 - $7000
2008 - 2016 - $16,900

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2017, 06:49:03 AM »
Updated to include the purchase year and purchase price

  • 2001 - 2003 - $10,000
  • 2004 - 2009 - $0*
  • 2013 - 2013 - $20,000
  • 2001 - 2016 - $0**
  • 2009 - 2016 - $6,300

* - car was given to me from my parents as my 2001 was worth more for a trade-in than the '04
** - car was given to my from my girlfriend as she wanted to upgrade and I was working on finishing off my student loans. I was hoping the car would last longer than it did but unfortunately died after me driving it for six months with 205,000 miles. It needed a new engine and wasn't worth the money to repair.

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2017, 06:53:17 AM »
Year - Car Year
2001 - 1995 (bought $9k, sold $5k)
2005 - 1996 (bought $6k, sold $3k)
2009 - 1997 (bought $9k, sold $7k)
2013 - 2007 (bought $12k, sold $9k)
2017 - 2012 (bought $25k, sold ----)

« Last Edit: March 22, 2017, 06:55:05 AM by Last Night »

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2017, 07:05:08 AM »
1996: 1985 Accord $500
2003-ish: 1998 Civic (Free from friend getting a new car)
2008: 2007 Yaris, new. About $10k. It's now my husband's car.
2016: 2013 Leaf. All but $2000 paid for out of insurance settlement after my husband's car was totaled.

There were periods of carlessness ranging from months to years before each car.

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2017, 07:12:51 AM »
This is my confessional

My car history is easily the largest mistake I made before discovering MMM.  I had reasonable cars up until 2009.  Then I traded in my paid off 2000 Infinity for a 2009 Scion.  This started the pattern of rolling debt into the next car almost yearly.  I was that guy that traded in cars for whatever reason popped up. 

Year  -  Car Year  -  Model  -  Excuse I gave myself at the time

2000  -  1965  -  Pontiac Catalina    -  My parents sold this when they were about to lose the house.  It was in their name
2003  -  1989  -  Dodge Ram Van    -  Bought off a friend for $1.2k, then gave to my Brother in 2006 (bought F150)
2004  -  1990  -  Ford Taurus SHO   -  Bought off a friend for $500, gave away when Transmission went out AGAIN
2006  -  2001  -  Ford F150            -  After giving away Van.  Traded in when moving cities and would be driving a lot.
2007  -  2000  -  Infinity G20t         -  Had throughout most of College.
2009  -  2009  -  Scion tC               -  Traded paid-off Infinity for this after long-time GF left me.  :(
2011  -  2012  -  Hyundai Tucson     -  Traded Scion upside down since I graduated College and was dumb. ($575/mo)
2012  -  2013  -  Mazda3                -  Realized the Tucson was too expensive, this lowered my payment. ($450/mo)
2014  -  2015  -  Hyundai Veloster    -  Wanted to lower payment further when money was tight (Down to $350/mo)
2015  -  2014  -  Chevy Cruze TDI    -  Began job driving 40k miles/yr, Veloster was a lease, so I was going way over.

I often think, "If I'd have kept the Infinity, I bet it would still be running..."

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2017, 07:23:42 AM »
Good thread!

Model Year - Purchase Year - Purchase Price

Daily Drivers:
1997 - 2009 - $3,000 - Nissan Maxima
2001 - 2012 - $3,500 - Honda Insight
2007 - 2015 - $5,500 - Honda Fit

Work Truck:
1994 - 2014 - $1500 - Dodge Ram 1500 (may be replaced soonish?)

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2017, 07:29:36 AM »
1995 Honda Accord--free to me in 2007--(parents let me use it, then sold it to my uncle)

2010 Subaru Impreza--purchased for $20000 in 2009--(huge facepunch; it had the new car smell and everything; gave this to my brother when I paid it off and didn't ask for anything in return, so didn't get anything out of it)

2000 Jeep Wrangler--$10000 purchased in 2014--(additional facepunch; it was my dream car since I was a kid; paid cash, sold for $8000 in 2016)

2003 Toyota Camry--$4000 purchased in 2016--(Hopefully this one lasts quite a while, it's very nice; paid cash)

I'm now firmly squared into the "buy something 10 years old and drive it into the ground" camp. It's been nice not having any car payments for a while.
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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2017, 07:34:39 AM »
Model  Year - Purchase Year - Purchase Price - Comment

1992 - 1997 - $0 - "kids car" my parents purchased and let me drive to college, crap car
1990 - 2002 - $0 - dad gave me a truck, probably felt bad about the crap car, immediately needed $2k transmission work
2004 - 2003 - $19,500 - loan, but paid off in a year <-- had amazing cup holders!  My 90s cars were lacking in this area.
2013 - 2012 - $17,500 - paid cash <-- ultimately disappointed in cup holders, but I'll manage

I've been pretty happy with my car decisions.  Yes, I've purchased new, and don't regret it a bit.  I've been car-payment free all but one year of my life, which I think is pretty cool.

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2017, 07:41:23 AM »
Year - Car Year - Price- Comments
1998 - 1990 - $1700 - High school, first car
2000-1999-$0-High school graduation present from parents
2004-2004-$30,000-College graduation present to myself
2007-2003-$22,000-bought my dream sports car
2011-2011-$30,000-daily driver, bought in part with proceeds from double dipping paychecks; got laid off and got a new job right away, but old job paid 2 months' severance

I regret nothing.

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2017, 08:00:38 AM »
Year | Model Year | Price | Car | Trade/Sale | Loss
1996 | 1985 | $50 | Honda Accord (3-door hatch) | $50
1998 | 1983 | $200 | Chevrolet Cavalier (5-door wagon) | $200
1999 | 1985 | $1500 | Honda Prelude (2-door sports car) | $250 | -1250
2000 | 1991 | $2900 | Nissan 240SX (2-door sports car) | $1500 | -1400
2001 | 1999 | $14500 | Subaru Impreza (2-door sports car) | $12500 | -2000
2001 | 1994 | $8500 | Dodge Stealth (2-door sports car) | $3000 | -5500
2004 | 1999 | $9000 | Chevrolet Tahoe (6-door SUV) | $4700 | -4300
2007 | 2007 | $15000 | Honda Fit (5-door hatchback) | $11000 | -4000
2011 | 2008 | $28000 | Acura TL (4-door luxury sedan) | $20000 | -8000
2012 | 2013 | $20000 | Mazda CX-5 (5-door hatchback) | $16200 | -3800
2014 | 2008 | $9400 | Honda Fit (5-door hatchback) | $4800 | -4600
2015 | 2006 | $13900 | Nissan 350Z (2-door sports car, extra car) | $13500 | -400
2016 | 2015 | $27000 | Chevrolet Silverado (4-door RWD truck) | $23000 | -4000
2016 | 2014 | $30000 | Chevrolet Silverado (4-door 4WD truck)
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Total loss: $39,250 over 20 years of car ownership (average $1963 / year) and about 300,000 miles ($0.13 / mile in depreciation). But a lot of that loss comes just from the luxury sedan and the RWD truck I owned for way too short a time (and should've sold, not traded.)

I'm terrible with cars. Not long after getting "into" MMM I traded in the CX-5 for an older Fit and left the dealership with a $6k check. But... I probably would've been better off just keeping the CX-5 and not cycling through cars that aren't right for me. The truck isn't right for me (or MMM-friendly) so who knows how long it'll last......
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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2017, 08:29:52 AM »
Age - Year of car - Car - Bought - Sold

16  1992  Olds Sillohouete   5k    2k
21  1992  Bonneville            3k    2k
23  1995  Olds Intrigue       3k    0
26  1999  Camry                5k     1.5k
32  2007  Prius                   5k     Currently worth 4.5k
Current age 34 (33, but birthday is in a week)

Years I've driven cars: 18 years
Total purchase prices:  21k
Total sales prices: 10k
Amount lost in depreciation over 18 years: 11k
So, depreciation has sucked a little over $600/year from my net worth since I started driving. 

Mistakes I've made:
#1) When I was young, I did full coverage insurance until I was about 29 years old because I was stupid and didn't understand the math. 
#2) Drove cars that were gas inefficient until recently
#3) Lived too far from work for 4 crucial years when gas was super high, costing me thousands of extra dollars.

I'll grade myself a "B" for car choices over the years by American standards, and a "C" by the standards of this community.

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2017, 08:34:36 AM »
Cars were my weak spot before I got my head out of my ass financially.  My car buying started in 1986 and the list is long.  I often had 2 vehicles at once.  I'm not going to list the dozen or so that were flip for profit.

1965 Chevy Impala - didn't run, rebuilt top end and sold 3 months later at a profit
1967 Mustang - did a ground up restore
1965 Dodge Dart - had to scrap when the driver's seat fell through the rusty floor
1972 Datsun 210 - sold to a random stranger who walked up and offered me more than I paid
1984 Ford Ranger
1990 GMC full size truck - first new purchase
1992 Ford Ranger - new, caught fire and burned to the ground on the freeway
1972 Chevy truck - another restoration
1988 Ford Fiesta
1992 Pontiac Firebird
1997 Nissan Hardbody - new
1989 Mercury Cougar
1996 Chevy S-10
1988 Jeep
1957 Chevy Bel Air - frame off restoration
1999 Ford Ranger
2001 Jeep Cherokee
2003 Nissan Frontier
2002 Ford Ranger
2006 Ford Mustang
2008 VW Rabbit
2009 Dodge Ram
2014 Nissan Altima - new, was a gift
2008 Dodge Ram - current truck, inherited when Dad passed

I now have no desire to swap cars.  Both are paid for, in good shape, and do exactly what I need them to. 

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2017, 08:54:00 AM »
Purchase Year - Model Year - Price - Notes

2012 - 1988 - $1000 - drove for 23k miles, then smashed it up in 2013 because I was an idiot.
2013 - 1996 - $2000 - replacement for 1988, drove for 13k miles, then sold for ~$1800 in 2014 because it was the wrong tool for the job.
2014 - 1999 - $1000 - replacement for 1996, drove for 36k miles, engine locked up May 2016, sold for $40 (yes really)
2014 - 1992 - $700   - additional car, drove for 42k miles, engine blew August 2016, sold for scrap ($150)
2016 - 2009 - $1000 - single replacement for both cars, 10k miles in so far and doing well.  Feels weird driving a car 17 years newer than the 1992.  Worth slightly more than I paid for it, as I bought it with a bad heater core and fixed that.

~$2700 in depreciation for ~124k miles over five years (2.2c/mi, $540/yr), even with some fuckups and inefficiency.  Not too bad.

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2017, 09:06:50 AM »
Years owned | Car | Purchase price | Sale price
2002 - 2007 1987 Toyota Supra $2,400 $500 (wrecked)
2004 - 2010 1995 Subaru Legacy Outback $3,400 $2,000
2006 - 2007 1995 Nissan Truck $1,500 $1,700
2007 - 2013 1991 Toyota Supra Turbo $7,000 $4,500
2009 - present 2005 Subaru Legacy GT wagon $4,900 (not running) + $9k in repairs N/A
2013 - present 2013 Subaru BRZ $30,000 including taxes/fees N/A

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2017, 09:17:00 AM »
Model Year - Purchase Year - Purchase Price

1985 - 1987 - $1700
1983 - 1990 - $0 (gift)
1998 - 2001 - $7000
1999 - 2007 - $2,500 (out of pocket cost; insurance company kicked in ~4K)

My lifetime car purchase costs are currently <$12,000. Ive been driving my own vehicles for 30 years now. (Purchase) Cost per year < $400.

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2017, 10:23:49 AM »
Model Year - Purchase Year - Purchase Price - Sold - Net cost

1987 - 1998 - $1200 - $700 - $500 Honda Prelude
1995 - 1999 - $5300 - $2400 - $2900 Nissan Altima
1995 - 2003 - $0 (received after graduating college, hand me down from parents). However I have spent an average of $285/yr on mx costs on it.

Still driving it...

I'm 35 and have spent net of $3400 on cars to date. Looking at buying another one here in a little while.
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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2017, 10:34:08 AM »
Okay, I'll play along.  Including wifey cars (but not ex-wifey cars because memory sucks going back that far.)  All numbers are suspect because my brain has a very hard time holding on to numbers.  Yes, this seems like a lot of vehicles to me, too.

years ownedcarpurchase pricesale price
1980-1991
1975 Chevy Monte Carlo "Jason"
gifted hand me down
$500 (and possibly not worth that much)
1983-present
1975 Triumph TR6 "the Turnip"
$3,300
still own
1990-2000
1990 Toyota pickup
$12,000
$3,000
1995-2014
1995 Ford Mustang GT
$18,000
$2,500
2000-2013
1999 Ford Expedition "Nancy"
$23,000
$3,000
2006-2015
1981 Chevrolet Pickup "Sally"
traded for extra large pizza with everything (~$25)
$0 (donated to charity for free "tow this away")
2007-present
2007 Kubota L3400 "Tilly"
$13,000
still own
2013-present
2005 Toyota Matrix "Neo"
$7,000
still own
2013-present
2010 Toyota Rav4 "Red Ryder"
$15,000
still own

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2017, 11:27:19 AM »
  • 1994
  • 1997
  • 1998
  • 2011

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2017, 11:39:01 AM »
This is my confessional

My car history is easily the largest mistake I made before discovering MMM.  I had reasonable cars up until 2009.  Then I traded in my paid off 2000 Infinity for a 2009 Scion.  This started the pattern of rolling debt into the next car almost yearly.  I was that guy that traded in cars for whatever reason popped up. 

"If I could get all the money back I ever spent on cars, I'd spend it on cars." - Nick Mason

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2017, 11:43:16 AM »
"If I could get all the money back I ever spent on cars, I'd spend it on cars." - Nick Mason

You know, Chris22 posted in this thread... and has that in his signature? ;)

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2017, 11:53:46 AM »
Cars that I've owned and driven; excludes one I bought that the ex-wife drove and took with her in the divorce:

1991 - 1995:  1985 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera, received as a wedding gift from parents, sold to a coworker for $500.
1995 - 2014:  1995 Toyota Corolla, bought new for $14,500 on a 4 year note, paid off note several months early.  Sold via Craigslist with ~240K on the odometer for $1900.
2014 - present:  1993 Lexus GS300, received as a gift from my parents.  Approximately worth $2K and has ~150K on the odometer.
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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2017, 11:59:24 AM »
We live in the US now (since 2013), but all of our purchases were made while in Canada (so prices are in CDN).

I think you win at car buying by owning as long as you can. Got this philosophy from my parents, who usually try to buy year old dealer show cars with very low miles to avoid freight. They then keep them for 10-15 years.

Years Owned -----------Car -----------------Price ---------------------Sale-------Notes
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2005-2012-----------1996 Civic-------------$2,000-------------------$500-----Sweet hart deal from my parents. Sold at 200k km with birth of 2nd kid.
2008-present--------2006 Corolla-----------$8,500-------------------N/A------Currently has ~ 200k kms. Hoping to keep it for another 3-5 years.
2012-present--------2011 Venza------------$29,000-----------------N/A-------Currently has ~ 75k miles. Hoping to keep for another 8-10 years.

I wish that I would have sold the Civic privately, but I did it as a trade in with the Venza purchase. Lost on that part of the deal.

Bought the Corolla used from a non-branded dealer with about 50k km, still under warranty. Formerly owned by rental company. Maybe the last car ever manufactured with manual windows. Will try to drive it until the frame rusts out (we're in upstate NY).

Bought the Venza new at the beginning of the 2012 model year while they were clearing out the 2011s. Got invoice pricing from Car Cost Canada and bought at $7k below MSRP. Probably helped that (a) Toyota was going through the phantom acceleration issue and (b) the dealership "won" on our trade in. Plan to drive this car until the frame rusts out.

Don't know that we'd buy new again, but at the time we paid the same as we would have for a 2 year old Venza with ~ 50k kms (excluding freight so we paid about $1,250 for the first 50k kms). This is a larger vehicle (still a 4 cyl) that has room for 3 car seats in the back (although we only need 2 now). We added our own hitch and have a Thule box on the back when we go for longer excursions.

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2017, 12:01:44 PM »
"If I could get all the money back I ever spent on cars, I'd spend it on cars." - Nick Mason

You know, Chris22 posted in this thread... and has that in his signature? ;)

haha! Good catch! I didn't even realize.

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2017, 12:02:32 PM »
1985 to 1993  1982 Toyota pickup  $5000 sold $1500

1993 to 2000  1988 F150 pickup   $7500 sold $1200

2000 to 2010  2001 F150 pickup   $25000 gave to child

2010 to 2016  2005 F250 Diesel    $19000 gave to child

2016              2008 F250 gasoline $10000


It would be possible for me to go to my Ford dealer and buy a not so special New F250 Diesel and cost as much as I've spent since 1985.  Two of those were gifted to my son.  The F250 Diesel at 12 years old I gave him looks and runs like new.  It could easily last till 20 years old.  My current truck could last till 20 years old.  Our current lifestyle/work requires the use of heavy trucks.  An EV is likely in my FIRE future.
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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2017, 12:06:41 PM »
1989 - $2,000 - Nissan 240SX
2000 - $10,000 - Nissan Maxima
2013 - $21,000 - Mazda3

Looks like my next car will probably be in the 2024-2026 year range.

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2017, 12:08:45 PM »
Model Year   Purchase Year   Purchase Price
1998                2006                Hand-me-down (high school)
2001                2011                $1900
2003                2014                $5000

Still driving the 2003 today

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2017, 12:23:32 PM »
1. 1997 Saturn SL, owned from 2004-2007, bought for $700 in high school. Was coerced into giving it to my parents while I was away at college (their own beater died, and it was on their insurance). Still bitter!

2. 2000 Plymouth Neon, owned from 2010-2017, bought for $6000 by my husband's parents in 2002. He drove it from 2002-2010, then gave it to me. It needed major repairs I didn't want to do, so I gave it to my family (freely, this time) in January. My brother is currently using it to work delivering sandwiches.

3. 2015 Volkswagen Beetle, just bought for $14000. My baby! She was a rental before.

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2017, 12:45:29 PM »
Bought - Model - Paid - Sold/Died
1998 - 1984 Chevy Citation II 180K - $300 - Gave away to a younger neighbor ~200K miles
2002 - 1972 Ford Maverick 250 inline 6 - $0 + $2500 for a custom rebuilt 302- Eventually sold as I didn't have the money to do what I wanted to it while in College - 2006
2003 - 1993 Ford Taurus - $0 + ~$800 for a junkyard motor and parts - 2005 Sold with blown headgasket on second motor for $300
2005 - 1977 Ford Thunderbird - $0, got from brothers PIL -  2007 gave it back for them to sell
2005 - 1993 Ford F150 ~170K miles - $0 family hand me down - 2007 Sold for $800 to a friend with over 200k on it
2007 - 1997 Ford F150 ~ 100K miles - $4500 took over sister's note. Bent valve after 2 years - Went carless for ~10 months, sold for $4000 after I rebuilt the heads.
2010 - 2010 Mazdaspeed3 - $23,000, bought partly because I wanted a sporty car, and friends/gf were complaining about me walking everywhere("I'll be there in 45 minutes!") - 2015 Traded in on truck
2011 - 1994 Chevy K1500 210K - $1500 - Sold in 2015 for $400 ~230K
2015 - 2014 Ford F150 - $32000 - current vehicle, used for my business and recreation

Edit: added old work truck 2011-2015
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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2017, 03:09:34 PM »
1984 - 1975 Toyota Corolla 0 was a total dad bought back and gave to me. I gave it back to him when I bought the truck
1986 - 1980 Chevy S10 pickup 3k financed
1987 - 1984 Toyota Celica 6.5k - traded in truck financed,
1987 - 1985 Subaru XT 8.5k sold 7.2k - traded in celica, financed
1989 - 1984 Volkswagon Rabbit 5k cash, sold 3k
1992 - 1984 Honda Accord 4k sold 3k in 1993 - when given Honda
1993 - 1981 Honda Accord FREE
1993 - 1967 Mustang Fastback - 4k cash sold 5.5k childhood dream car (we did some work on it and enjoyed it for a couple of years) - was going to get us speeding tickets! this was our 4th car Yikes!
1996 - 1996 Honda Celica Hatchback 13k - was super cheap, not impressed. financed 0%
1999 - 1997 Subaru Limited (traded in Honda for it) 22k financed<- this was the most I've ever paid monthly for a car $327
2001 - 1997 Dodge Ram 1500 16k (traded in Subaru, got more for the subaru than paid for the truck) pd cash for the difference.
2010 - 1998 Dodge Ram 2500 (6.7k) - pd cash - gave to DH for his rental work truck after I sold my horse.
2013 - 2008 Mazda Miata - 19.2k pd cash loved this little car! Sold it in 2016 for 13k
2016 - 2004 Dodge RAM 3500 Dually - 27.5k pd cash (bought 2016 fifth wheel new, had a trailer to trade in pd. $35k cash) <- this is our current home
2017 - consigned 1998 dodge for 6k to me when sold (bluebook 8.3k)

In 1990 I got married and then we were a 3 to sometimes 4 car duo. This lists my own vehicles. I didn't to too bad overall. by 2001 I realized car payments were silly. I did have a bit of a fetish for three sports cars, first the XT, drove it, loved it, got over it... then the 1967 Mustang I just had to have, it was hard to drive, after a couple of years, got over it...finally my midlife crisis car, the Mazda Miata PHRT - this is the BEST car I've owned, I changed the battery and it never had any problems, sold it to retire.

DH did have a payment for a bit longer than I. His was $404/mo for a Brand New Jeep Grand Cherokee (1996). Since DH drove a work van, he put very few miles on his vehicles. Then In 2001 we moved close to my work and none of our vehicles had long commutes.

We drove the 1981 Honda Accord until it died, same with the 1997 Dodge Truck, in the end I traded it for a year of free horse shoeing.

I don't think I've seen any of our vehicles with much over 120k miles, perhaps the 1981 honda had more? not really sure. The Miata I bought with 23k miles and sold it with 26k miles, those were the best three thousand miles of my driving life!

After we finish slow traveling, I plan to get something small to putt around in, I like the Honda Fit, but who knows how long slow travel will work for us!

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2017, 07:57:51 PM »
Model Year - Purchase Year - Purchase Price - Kilometres on odometer

1988 - 2002 - $2600 (from 266k to 359k)
1994 - 2006 - $5000 (145k to 155k)
1993 - 2006 - $5000 (177k to 241k)
2001 - 2010 - $10250 (154k to 210k)
2002 - 2014 - $3000 (111k to 132k at present)

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2017, 08:59:48 PM »
In case anyone wondered, the typical American drives an eleven-year-old car.

My car model years have been 1981, 1990, 1997 and 2003 (my current car since 2005). I've been driving since 1991.

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2017, 11:04:40 PM »
I've only been driving since 2003, but looking at this thread, I feel like I've owned a lot of cars.

Model - purchased year - purchase price - sale price

1989 Chevy Beretta - 2003 - Free from grandparents - $1200 (sold to buy newer car)
2001 Ford ZX2 - 2004 - $5000 - $1200 (sold when moving to Alaska after running the back end into a truck in a parking garage. Drove it for 9 years with almost no issues. I loved that car.)
2005 Ford Escape - 2009 - $11,000 - Still have it and it runs great
2006 Toyota Avalon - 2014 - $8800 - $6000 (stupid, stupid mistake and I knew it was driving it home. Turns out the car had been in a fairly major wreck and a ton of minor things went wrong with it in the two years we owned it. I was so happy the day we sold it.)
2013 Toyota Prius V - 2017 - $17,000 (husband drives all over the metro area for work in this car. We're getting $600-800/mo in mileage reimbursements. So far a good buy.)

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2017, 08:44:45 AM »
In case anyone wondered, the typical American drives an eleven-year-old car.

My car model years have been 1981, 1990, 1997 and 2003 (my current car since 2005). I've been driving since 1991.

This is an interesting stat as the auto industry is hitting record sales numbers even as the average car "age" grows as well. I would be curious to see a report on house the number of cars per household has grown over the years which could affect this along with a multitude of other reasons.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/04/news/companies/car-sales-2016/

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2017, 11:57:35 AM »
In case anyone wondered, the typical American drives an eleven-year-old car.

My car model years have been 1981, 1990, 1997 and 2003 (my current car since 2005). I've been driving since 1991.

This is an interesting stat as the auto industry is hitting record sales numbers even as the average car "age" grows as well. I would be curious to see a report on house the number of cars per household has grown over the years which could affect this along with a multitude of other reasons.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/04/news/companies/car-sales-2016/

I don't believe the number per household has increased much recently, I believe it's actually trended down slightly the last decade or so. The number of total households with cars has increased though, due to population increase and less relative poverty.

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2017, 01:09:02 PM »
Years owned           Year/model                        Purchase Price              Sale Price
1989-2008            1971 Ford Maverick              $0 Gift                         $500
1991-1993            1984 Dodge Aries K             $0-Gift to DW                $500
1993-2001            1966 Mustang GT                 $5700                          $1500 after wreck
1998-2000            1989 Dodge Colt                  $1800                          $400
1999-2000            1991 Mazda                         $800                            $400
2001-2002            1993 Chrysler New Yorker    $1800                           $1800
2002-2002            1986 Ford Ranger                $1200                           $800
2002-2005            1991 Ford Escort                 $1200                           $1000
2002-2008            1999 Pontiac Sunfire            $4000                           $0- Gift to SIL
2004-2005            1998 Saturn                        $1500                           $1800
2005-2010            1984 Ford Ranger                $1500                           $600
2008-2012            2000 Mercury Sable             $2900                           $1500
2010- present        1994 Geo Metro                  $1000
2011- present        2001 VW Passat                  $1500
2014- present        1991 Chevy 1500                $3500

Summary: We now own three vehicles, are considering getting rid of either the VW or truck. Net cost of vehicles for 28 years of driving is $17,600.

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2017, 01:59:32 PM »
Model Year - Purchase Year - Purchase Price

1991- 1990 - 8,000 - Ford Escort Pony (new).  Drove 50miles to college 2x/wk but lived at home for free.
1998- 1998- 25,000 - Toyota Camry (new),  rear ended on freeway, car was totaled.
2006- 2006 - 50,000 - Mercedes SUV (new)
2005- 2010- 10,5000- Dodge Caravan (used).  Found MMM, car totaled by dealer on a test drive after they replaced something.
2006 - 2013 - 14,700 -  Toyota Sienna (used)

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2017, 02:07:27 PM »
1995 (hand me down grand am with no AC)
2003 current car

Actually looking at cars older than the current 2003. All the new cars are too expensive for what they offer. I don't care about fancy electronics or heated seats.

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2017, 02:08:59 PM »
2005- 2010- 10,5000- Dodge Caravan (used).  Found MMM, car totaled by dealer on a test drive after they replaced something.
Wow, that must have been a fun phone call to get.

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2017, 02:28:59 PM »
In 2010 I purchased a 2009 Toyota Matrix for $11K. It is the only car I have ever purchased, and I intend to drive it for as long as it lasts.

My husband purchased a 1991 Toyota 4Runner in 2009 for $1 (it didn't run) - he spent about $1K (and lots of time) and got it running.

He did the same with a Nissan Sentra a few years before (which he was driving when we met).

He is super proud of himself for never spending more than ONE DOLLAR on a car.

Can you see why I married him - he was mustachian long before we heard of MMM.


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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #40 on: March 23, 2017, 02:32:42 PM »
Yeah, I couldn't stop laughing.   Guy on the phone was really nervous.    He thought was going to get cussed out.  Dealership paid for the rental car for 3 months.  I was in no hurry to replace the van they crashed.   

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2017, 02:39:53 PM »
To get back to the original topic... age (trend) at purchase:

9
15
14
19
2
3
5
0
3
0
6
9
1
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Not the ideal Mustachian trend. The only real "win" I had was when I found MMM, I went from a 2 year old car to a 6 year old one.

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #42 on: March 23, 2017, 04:05:27 PM »
Here's mine:

1997 : 1979 Mini Clubman Estate, Petrol      1.0L  - Shared with parents, cheesy classic car and great fun
1999 : 1990 Rover Metro, Petrol              1.0L? - Shared with parents, small and practical, but a bit bland
2000 : 1991 Ford Escort, NA Diesel           1.8L? - My first personal car. Not fast, but very economical. Got stolen :(
2001 : 1994 Vauxhall Astra Mk3, Turbo Diesel 1.8L  - Trusty workhorse. Lasted for years, eventually blew radiator and siezed engine.
2009 : 2004 Vauxhall Astra Mk4, Petrol / LPG 1.8L  - Complete and utter lemon, tried to make it work properly for years then gave up in disgust.
2013 : 2011 Vauxhall Astra Mk6, Petrol       1.4L  - Solid, economical, reliable, but not much power. Still, I like it.


I started reading MMM just before I bought the 2011 car. But I bought it anyway, so there :P

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #43 on: March 23, 2017, 04:47:08 PM »
Ugh, me and cars.

Car                                 |      PchsYr   |   P Price|    SPrice
1985 Chvy S10                |    2002       |      $0   |   $140   - Dad bought new. I pulled it out of the weeds and fixed it. Sold it for scrap when trans failed.
1972 Chevy Nova             |     2003       |    $800 |  NEVER!  I have over $15K in this thing since I bought it, restored it, and started restoring it again.
1985 Toyota corolla FX16 |     2005       |  $1000 |   $500    - Bought it for college, Drove it for 4 years... it was fun! it had a Mr2 engine in it factory... sold it to a friend to make a racecar out of. He raced it for a few years, then he sold it back to me. for $500.
2008 Aveo                      |     2008       | $7500   |  $11,500   - bought this stupid car before the $4.25 gas run-up. Totalled it at the height of the gas prices... value shot up. Insurance payout was nice.
1999 Trans Am               |  2008           |  $11,500| $8000  - I was in college, had a job, tired of lame little econo cars. Fuck yeah. Almost grew a mullet.
2006 Chevy 1500           |  2010           |  $8200   |  $7200 - Needed a truck for remodeling my house.
-----Discovered MRM, sold the 2006 chevy.
1978 chevy truck            | 2013            | $200     |$ 1000  - Dad used to park this truck in a field with a hay wagon behind it. cows caved in EVERY body panel. It was primer gray. Known to my coworkers as "gray sexy."
2001 Civic                      | 2013           | $4500    | $4500 - Needed something that got better mileage than gray sexy.
2014 Ram 1500              | 2014           |$27,500  |---     I wanted a nicer truck, planed to race cars. Sold gray sexy and the civic. got this truck with 9K miles on it, it originally sold for $37,000.



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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #44 on: March 23, 2017, 05:07:33 PM »
Wow, some of you guys really go through the vehicles! Me, at 54:
  • 1979 Plymouth Sapporo, new (a friend totaled it)
  • 1980-something CRX SI, used
  • Early 90s Acura RS, used
  • 2002 Subaru Impreza, new
We also have a '96 GMC Savana that we use for road trips.

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #45 on: March 23, 2017, 05:54:42 PM »
Me
1991 ----> 2003
Wife
1994 ----> 1995 ----> 1996 ----> 2008

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #46 on: March 23, 2017, 06:23:47 PM »
I bought my first car in 1998:

1985 Mercury Grand Marquis: $330 (Died less than a year later)
1984 Mercury Grand Marquis: $400 (Died less than a year later)
1990 Subaru Legacy: Free (Died five years later)
2000 Honda Civic (Totaled a year later): $5000
2000 Chrysler Concorde (Purchased with insurance money. Traded in four years later): $4800
2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid (Current car. Purchased brand new on clearance for cash): $25000

My current car wasn't particularly Mustachian when I bought it, but it was paid for and it's extremely reliable so I kept it after discovering MMM. I am hoping to get at least another 6 or 7 years out of it. Maybe more since the engine only runs part of the time and usually at less than 2000 rpm. Long-term fuel economy: 41 mpg.

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Re: Car Year Trend
« Reply #47 on: March 23, 2017, 07:35:10 PM »
I'm only had two cars so far but both of them were acquired pre-MMM so none of them would win me any awards.

Year Acquired/Car Year/Model

2004/2005/Mazda3 - 4 yr lease (since my parents were big fans of leasing and I had my head in the sand), bought it out at end of lease for $12000 cash but can't remember what monthly lease payments were (around $300/mth) --> I LOVED that car until it was written off in mid-2015

2015/2010/Toyota Rav4 - bought used through a dealership, loan was for $19000-ish and I've been making accelerated payments, should be paid off in 3 months (2 years ahead of schedule) --> not MMM and I'm considering selling it for something smaller (but she's my baby!)