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I received my first "Black Friday is only XX Days Away!" email this weekend.

And then I took to my angry soapbox via FB to bemoan the state of consumerism in our culture and the irony of stampeding people for deals 24 (or 48) hours after we ostensibly give thanks for the blessings in our lives.

I haven't participated in Black Friday in YEARS (not since I stopped working retail, and even then I was... well, working). I also know REI is getting flack for the "clear PR stunt" of their #optout movement (even though I think it's doing some important work about opening up a cultural conversation about retail stores, advertising, etc.)

And yet, I know people who make Black Friday a family outing; it's part of their holiday bonding experience. And I know people who have gotten excellent deals on Christmas presents (although, as a former retail employee, I like to point out that equally good deals exist throughout December).

So... thoughts? I imagine not many people here Black Friday (no gifts, homemade gifts, etc.) but I'd love to hear from people who do, either for the experience or the deals they find. Is it worth it?

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If there is something that I specifically need to buy, then I might consider searching for it in an online BF deal, but there is no way in hell I'd go out to a store in that insanit.  I went once about 10 years ago and it was an utter waste of time.  I can buy some POS electronics or 2nd tier album for 50% off?  Whoopie!

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Everything on sale Black Friday, aside from the doorbuster,s can be purchased online from the comfort of your own home.
I do a good portion of my Christmas shopping for family members on or near Black Friday, as you'll be hard pressed to find better deals outside of that window.


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I won't set foot in a retail store on Black Friday. I do my best to stay out of them any weekend during the Christmas madhouse, which I believe starts right about now.

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I won't set foot in a retail store on Black Friday. I do my best to stay out of them any weekend during the Christmas madhouse, which I believe starts right about now.
Ditto. I hit Walmart, Kroger, Family Dollar, and Harris Teeter this morning. They were all busy replacing the pumpkins with Santa.
Stay safe out there.

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I've worked seasonal in retail.
I've seen people fistfight over parking spots.
I've seen two elderly women, each with a death grip on one side of a scarf, hitting each other with their purses.  Took two grown security men to separate them.

I will work from home that day if possible and avoid even travelling past my mail box.

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I won't set foot in a retail store on Black Friday. I do my best to stay out of them any weekend during the Christmas madhouse, which I believe starts right about now.
Ditto. I hit Walmart, Kroger, Family Dollar, and Harris Teeter this morning. They were all busy replacing the pumpkins with Santa.
Stay safe out there.
Double ditto. It has never been my thing. I went once in the early 80s, which I believe predates the level of insanity and frenzy we see now (no big deals like $10 FLATCSREEN TV, supplies limited!!!!!). What. A. Nightmare.  Helped diagnose np my aversion to big crowds without a common goal.

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Overall, nay.

I too worked retail and the rush was kind of fun (never a dull moment) but then again, a lot of dbag customers to deal with...

I think Black Friday is useful if you need to buy something and can wait for a good deal to pop up. However, good deals pop up year round. I totally feel like the BF "deals" are largely an illusion.

The last time I shopped on Black Friday was when I was moving to a new apartment on Dec. 1 and had to buy a few new things (microwave, etc.). That was actually really convenient because I saved a ton of money.

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Black Friday's fine for me, I buy stuff online!  The stuff I buy is things I need/would've bought anyway, I just make myself wait till Black Friday to get them.  For example last year I needed a new phone as mine was crapping out on me, got a new on for free online!  Another trick is that the sales are actually all week long at most places, just nobody notices... so I'll go get stuff on like, Wednesday.  Same deal, no crowds.  But again, my buys are limited to think I already was going to buy, I'm sure most of the population does not do that.

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I won't set foot in a retail store on Black Friday. I do my best to stay out of them any weekend during the Christmas madhouse, which I believe starts right about now.
Ditto. I hit Walmart, Kroger, Family Dollar, and Harris Teeter this morning. They were all busy replacing the pumpkins with Santa.
Stay safe out there.
Double ditto. It has never been my thing. I went once in the early 80s, which I believe predates the level of insanity and frenzy we see now (no big deals like $10 FLATCSREEN TV, supplies limited!!!!!). What. A. Nightmare.  Helped diagnose np my aversion to big crowds without a common goal.

I've never been ever.  I am a bit averse to crowds anyway.  I'd pay extra to buy it another day if there was something I really wanted.

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Once, a couple years ago, my brother (+ his gf) and I tried to do Black Friday by going to Target on Thursday evening.  Turns out that the store was opening an hour later than anticipated, possibly due to some state law issues (this was Massachusetts).  We didn't feel like waiting around, and as we drove away our mouths dropped open at the size of the line of people waiting to get in.  Actually came back the next day in the afternoon - place was totally dead, picked up some cute items of clothing.

Stores open on Thanksgiving Thursday because it's profitable, because for many Americans Thanksgiving is partially about buying stuff at low prices.  The only effective way to voice disagreement with Black Friday's expanding scope ... is to stay away from stores on Thanksgiving Thursday and Black Friday.  Talk is cheap, making a stand with your money is powerful.  Can't help but think like an economist on this issue.  I used to have several retailers as clients.  I remember one very interesting analysis on a sporting goods store's circular.  You know, what up with people buying the heavily discounted kayaks and other big-ticket items?  Were they buying other higher margin items?  For retailers, there's a lot of money to be made on Black Friday (with the scope increasing to Thursday).  Black Friday keeps getting bigger and starting earlier because Americans keep buying more shit.  Buy less shit on those days, and stores will find that their calculations on whether staying open makes sense, might yield a different answer.

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I'll shop online for things I can't easily get second hand.  For the last month, I've been waiting to see if any 32" tvs go on sale for $200 since that is what my son wants and our second hand optionsfor tvs here are pretty limited.  I suspect that BF and Boxing Day will have the best deals for tvs, but I will keep looking before then.

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I prefer not to Black Friday shop. Sometimes I do get dragged outside by my mother to go black Friday shopping, but usually anything I purchase that weekend (not much) is done so online. Etsy's prices are usually the best of the year that weekend, so any Christmas gifts I've found on there I'll get that weekend.

In addition, this year I am going to try the "I'll buy nothing for you if you buy nothing for me" route with my sib and sib-in-laws. Husband and I probably won't get anything for each other either. I will probably still have to buy for my nieces and nephews, and something for the parents and in-laws. Hopefully that's it!


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Several thoughts:

The last time I went to Walmart on Black Friday -- yeah, I know, big mistake -- was about 15 years ago.  I saw two women fist fighting over the last bicycle, and while they were rolling around on the floor together, someone else came and took the bike.  I turned tail and went straight home, realizing then and there that I just don't hang in that kind of crowd. 

I'll go out on Black Friday ... but not too early and not to the really insane places like Walmart.  The best thing I bought last year was a Target gift card for 10% off.  Of course, I "gifted" it to myself so I could then buy whatever I wanted for 10% off.  They had some movies, etc. for low prices too. 

What I think is better than actually going out is buying online.  A couple years ago we wanted a new TV, and I ordered it online on Black Friday ... had it shipped to the store through Walmart ... and waited about a week to go pick it up.  When I went in, I just had to show my purchase print-out and my ID, and minutes late I was walking out with my TV.  I got the price AND avoided the crowds.  I'd do that again in a heartbeat. 

If you do want something that's advertised at Best Buy, see if you know any teenagers who'd stand in line for you.  Yes, seriously -- kids will wait in line for you for $25.  I know a group of teenaged boys who've been spending the night in front of Best Buy for years now (they're now college students).  They bring sleeping bags and make a game of it.  Their moms deliver sandwiches and hot chocolate during the night.  Here's the thing:  When the store's about to open, Best Buy hands out "tickets" for the hot ticket items.  They go down the line saying, "What're you waiting for?"  And the teenaged boy who's waiting for you says, "I'm waiting for the TV and the ipad."  Best Buy gives him the tickets for those two items (until they're gone), and you show up promptly at 8:00 (or whenever the store opens), and the kid gives you the ticket, and you buy the item without waiting. 
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Why did this ever even become a tradition?  I have always enjoyed eating and drinking merrily on Thanksgiving, meeting up with old friends on Thanksgiving night and sleeping late on BF.  I hate the stores!

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Absolutely not.

I've never gone to a Black Friday anything. I cannot fathom how it would be fun. 

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No way!   Some years ago I was suckered into going to a Bass Pro Shop with some relatives.  Had nothing else to do and since they were waiting until the store had already been open a couple hours I figured it couldn't be a big deal.   Good grief.  There was still a line to get in.  The check out lines wrapped through the store aisles.  Won't do it again.

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Why did this ever even become a tradition?  I have always enjoyed eating and drinking merrily on Thanksgiving, meeting up with old friends on Thanksgiving night and sleeping late on BF.  I hate the stores!

I'm with you on this one.   BF has become the crazy thing it has during my lifetime and I've never, ever understood why.

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I'll shop online for things I can't easily get second hand.  For the last month, I've been waiting to see if any 32" tvs go on sale for $200 since that is what my son wants and our second hand optionsfor tvs here are pretty limited.  I suspect that BF and Boxing Day will have the best deals for tvs, but I will keep looking before then.
$200 is hell lot for a 32"! Even on a normal day, leave alone BF. You may wanna check Dell. They have the Samsung/LG 32" TV's very frequently for $200-250 plus tax (use rebate sites to negate the tax) with a free $100-150 Dell e-gift card valid for 90days. Ofcourse, the free e-gift cannot be considered as cash... But still can be used for some technology crap or even buy something and resell on Craigslist.

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I'll shop online for things I can't easily get second hand.  For the last month, I've been waiting to see if any 32" tvs go on sale for $200 since that is what my son wants and our second hand optionsfor tvs here are pretty limited.  I suspect that BF and Boxing Day will have the best deals for tvs, but I will keep looking before then.
$200 is hell lot for a 32"! Even on a normal day, leave alone BF. You may wanna check Dell. They have the Samsung/LG 32" TV's very frequently for $200-250 plus tax (use rebate sites to negate the tax) with a free $100-150 Dell e-gift card valid for 90days. Ofcourse, the free e-gift cannot be considered as cash... But still can be used for some technology crap or even buy something and resell on Craigslist.

I am guessing you aren't Canadian.

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I'll be brave enough to be the lone dissenter.  I do BF every year with my oldest friend.  We use it as a time to visit and catch up primarily but do generally buy at least a few things.  We find generally people are in a truly wonderful mood and haven't run into anything too nuts.  This is probably due to the fact that we start at the unbelievably late time of 9-10am (after truly crazy people are winding down), refuse to set foot in any store like Walmart/ToysRUs/BestBuy and stop for a non-mustachian lunch halfway through the day.  And we long ago decided it if ever became not fun (either overall the tradition or just in a given day) we'd just stop.  Neither of us NEEDS to shop that day and don't do it for any "deals" (other than maybe the free $10 at Kohls) so we could hide at my house (sans children) and likely have nearly as much fun.  Ha!

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I'll shop online for things I can't easily get second hand.  For the last month, I've been waiting to see if any 32" tvs go on sale for $200 since that is what my son wants and our second hand optionsfor tvs here are pretty limited.  I suspect that BF and Boxing Day will have the best deals for tvs, but I will keep looking before then.
$200 is hell lot for a 32"! Even on a normal day, leave alone BF. You may wanna check Dell. They have the Samsung/LG 32" TV's very frequently for $200-250 plus tax (use rebate sites to negate the tax) with a free $100-150 Dell e-gift card valid for 90days. Ofcourse, the free e-gift cannot be considered as cash... But still can be used for some technology crap or even buy something and resell on Craigslist.

I am guessing you aren't Canadian.
Muricaa! F Yeah!

/Ignore my comment if you aren't in the USofA.

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I'll shop online for things I can't easily get second hand.  For the last month, I've been waiting to see if any 32" tvs go on sale for $200 since that is what my son wants and our second hand optionsfor tvs here are pretty limited.  I suspect that BF and Boxing Day will have the best deals for tvs, but I will keep looking before then.
$200 is hell lot for a 32"! Even on a normal day, leave alone BF. You may wanna check Dell. They have the Samsung/LG 32" TV's very frequently for $200-250 plus tax (use rebate sites to negate the tax) with a free $100-150 Dell e-gift card valid for 90days. Ofcourse, the free e-gift cannot be considered as cash... But still can be used for some technology crap or even buy something and resell on Craigslist.

I am guessing you aren't Canadian.
Muricaa! F Yeah!

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lol

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I had a really surreal experience last Thanksgiving. I decided to go to a bar after the family celebration wound down, because a good friend of mine was bartending on Thanksgiving and it's the slowest night of the year. (He works nights and weekends, I work weekdays, we basically don't see each other unless I visit him at work.) There were just a few people in the bar (some tourists from countries that don't celebrate Thanksgiving) and he and I had a fun, laid-back time talking and playing our favorite music on the big stereo system while he served drinks. I ended up getting completely trashed (something I never, ever do). Made my way home around 3AM, the subway train was really empty and quiet... I was having to try hard to stay awake and alert. Until we went through midtown Manhattan and suddenly the train was full of INSANE PEOPLE with a ton of shopping bags who had done the Thursday night midnight shopping thing on 5th Avenue and in Herald Square and all that where all the big department stores are. Holy cow. I didn't even know what was going on - just blearily, drunkenly staring at this sudden mob of excited jackasses with no idea where they came from or why... LOL. Like a scene out of my nightmares. I realized the next day that I'd stumbled into the early-opening Black Friday scene by accident.

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I received my first "Black Friday is only XX Days Away!" email this weekend.
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So... thoughts? I imagine not many people here Black Friday (no gifts, homemade gifts, etc.) but I'd love to hear from people who do, either for the experience or the deals they find. Is it worth it?

Hell will freeze solid with the devil in the middle before I do BF. I didn't do BF even BEFORE I was mustachian, because I figured out years ago that all the actual good deals are during the month of October. The real deals are gone by 2nd week in November.

It took me 30 years just to get my momma to quit buying that shit to give to me. I'd rather her make me some biscuits and pork chops.

Great thing now is, I get biscuits and pork chops any time I go home to visit. Life is good!
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We budget with a sinking fund for Christmas gift giving throughout the year.  Buying on BF can sometimes help our saved funds stretch a little further, that's about all there is to it.

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No BF for us. Occasionally I'll buy something we need online during the weekend's discounts - a couple of years ago we bought a chest freezer and last year we bought a TV.

We very rarely give store bought consumerist gifts for Christmas. In fact, with many friends, we don't give gifts at Christmas at all. Throughout the year we make an effort to give gifts when people need them. Many of our friends are having kids, so this can include many home cooked meals, babysitting, taking over routine errands for a bit (grocery shopping, house cleaning, etc.). For the kids in our family, they usually get something handmade or an experience gift, such as an annual membership to the zoo/museum, paid for classes (swim, dance, etc)., or a special day with us. Or books, I do buy books for kids.

Kids and adults don't need stuff, so basically we give time.

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We did BF last year - it's actually fun if you go with a tourist/zoo/peoplewatching mindset. Yes, even Walmart, where we got a very cheap tablet for the toddler. Still works great, he gets to watch the PBS kids shows when we need a break.

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Black Friday, 1997, somewhere in the wilds of eastern Kentucky.

Working at the Evil Empire Walmart.

Had to come in at three in the morning.

That year's must-have toy was Tickle Me Elmo.

The line was around the building when I got there. 

The guy who had the misfortune of getting the duty of unlocking the doors literally had to jump over the crowd or else he would have been trampled.

Five of us were giving out Elmo.  Flanked by two armed cops.

Fist fights were breaking out all over the place.

A woman tried to shove in front of someone and grabbed my left hand to try to get Elmo out of it.  When I wouldn't let go, she dug her filthy fingernails into the back of it and ripped.  It later got infected.  I still have the scars.

I was there for eleven hours and got ONE five-minute break and ONE small bottle of water the whole time.  A few years later, I netted a $500 check from a class action lawsuit over the lack of breaks and water.  I only worked there six months and the payouts were based on time employed, so I imagine some people got a very nice check. 

Eff Black Friday.  Double-eff the Evil Empire.

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On the day after Thanksgiving (I reject any other moniker for the day) a couple of years ago, we got really baked and cruised the mall. First time I'd smoked weed in years. Excellent people watching. It was so crowded it was like being alone.
I did buy some things: Ice cream, lunch, a couple of beers in the mall restaurant/bar. Felt like a kid again.

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Got a great deal on much needed snow tires last year. Ordered online picked them up the next week.

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We did BF last year - it's actually fun if you go with a tourist/zoo/peoplewatching mindset. Yes, even Walmart, where we got a very cheap tablet for the toddler. Still works great, he gets to watch the PBS kids shows when we need a break.

This is what my husband and I do most days of the year. It's really a necessity if we set foot in some place like Wal-Mart.

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I don't need anything... and most stuff on black friday is either the same old shit that's not even on sale (maybe the price was raised then "lowered" to be on sale, or just straight up "sale" plastered on it with no change in price), or specially-made cheap shit (factory rejects, etc), or dumping ground for old stock of shit that really shouldn't even sell at the new "lowered" prices.

But I mean, if they have exactly what you want for cheap, then, great.

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My grandma was the queen of a deal. She, my mom, my sister, and I have always done BF shopping as a family bonding activity.  We lived in a small town, so the "crowds" were not crowded by a long shot. 

We had certain bargains that were always great.  Lowes or Home Depot (can't remember which) has 1$ poinsettias.  Jo Anns has 1$ a yard flannel.  Etc.  I spend very little money most years.  Some years I wait for something I really need and get a great price on BF (2 years ago we needed new bed sheets, and I've found great Pyrex deals on BF), while having fun with my mom and sister (Grandma has passed now).  We never went super early or anything. 

But for the most part I think the whole thing is crazy and avoid the crazy parts. 

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In high school in Northern Virginia in 1986, I worked at at Erol's video store, which was Blockbuster before Blockbuster, at least in the mid-Atlantic area. I don't recall if we were open on Black Friday (or if we even called it that), but I do recall New Year's Eve and Wednesday night before Thanksgiving being insane. People would come in and rent absolutely everything we had -- maximum six rentals, which most people took -- and we had thousands of tapes (VHS and Beta!) in stock. I always thought it was pretty sad that people needed 12-15 hours of truly bad '80s films (what else was there?) to get through the holidays with family.

BF is more a commentary on people having shopping as their main hobby, something to do when they're not working and don't want to watch television.

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I typically go out on BF in the late morning. Husband and I hit up Menard's before noon, when they still have the early bird deals going and the crowds have died out. Some years I don't even look at the ads beforehand, I just show up with some items in mind and see if what's left will fit the bill. For Menard's, though, we are usually buying for ourselves. Last year, hubs got a "little giant" style ladder, scaffolding, and who knows what else for ridiculously low prices. He is working in construction, so these items get used. We also got a great deal on LED bulbs, and the year before we bought a dutch oven for around $30. Works great. We hate shopping, but make an exception for BF and buy ourselves a lot of items we put off throughout the year. Another bonus? In the late morning, crowds are gone and the stores still have every register open. We see store employees just standing around waiting to help people.

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I do not hate Black Friday, when I was in retail as a peon and manager it was a great way to make extra money (tips, bonuses).  But I truly cannot stand the idea of stores opening on Thanksgiving (I talked to my director of stores when I was a manger about it but he was very old school and found the idea equally repugnant).  After my tour of retail duty I take BF as a time to sleep in and largely do nothing, it is a like a whole new holiday.

Somethings that bear saying:

1. There is not extra in the back
2. Cannot use the coupon on the doorbusters
3. If the sale ends at 11 no joy at 11:30
4. BF items are not for sale/markdown on Wednesday night.

The only BF item I ever bought (with my Dad as I was working) was a Samsung 50" DLP TV, came with a stand as well.  That was in 2005 and I still use it as my primary TV today (fixed it twice myself)


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No. We have a big small business and local crafters/artists event downtown on the Saturday after Thanksgiving so I like to buy presents at the local places or from the craft market that day.

I did once but the door buster tv at target a few days early and then did a price match later in the day on Black Friday. I'm not sure if they do that anymore. The stores are usually empty by 2-3pm and the sales are still going on.

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I went a few years ago as a bonding experience with female friends.  It wasn't very exciting.  I don't think we have the proper Black Friday Spirit here.

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If there is something i really want, i will wait till black Friday ads are out to see if there is a deal, otherwise hell no. I am in the market for a second slow cooker so that may be my black Friday purchase if there is a great deal.

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I generally have specific things I'm looking for and if I happen to see a great deal, I'll jump.  This year I am contemplating a suspension upgrade for my overland/expedition vehicle, and if the price is right I might jump.

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Here's how I've been successful in my Black Friday career:

-Black Friday is just a marketing ploy to get people to go in and buy a bunch of stuff. Don't go in and just "look around". That's what they want you to do and is only a waste of time. You'll get wrapped up in things that aren't even on sale. Look for specific deals. 5 years ago I went for a new laptop. Last year I went for a Nintendo 3DS.
-Look for freebies. Staples usually has AA and AAA batteries with full Staples Rewards reimbursement. One year Home Depot had free holiday-themed doormats that my sister got for her restaurant. Sports Authority usually has a scratch off ticket system when you walk in for free store credit ($10 min).
-Think outside the box. I love to take advantage of price matching. One store is advertising X item for a good price. Well, everyone will go to that store, so simply go to a price matching store and get the same item without having to deal with other people.

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I have been doing BF shopping for about 10 years now and I love it. I usually go for specific door buster items that are truly worth it. It's also a great time to buy donation items for the holiday. I get many great deals for needy families. Recently I've been enjoying going Thursday night with a group of friends and family. We all work together to make sure everyone gets what we came for. It's a fun bonding time with great deals. Obviously YMMV and it's not for everyone.

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I enjoy Black Friday...even waiting in lineups for store opens (although I don't have the stomach/interest to wait more than 30 mins).

No the deals are not all stupendous. But it is the one time of the year where there are reasonably decent deals pretty much everywhere. I consider it one stop shopping for Christmas.

One year, DH and I started at 8pm on the Thursday and continued until 10am the next morning. We didn't expect to stay out that long...but I got a lot of the stuff I wanted. And it was kinda fun to be part of the madness :)

I do admit, I sometimes return stuff I buy on BF if I find better deals in the following weeks.

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I've only gone shopping on Black Friday one time. When I was 16 I got obsessed with getting a digital camera as this was before smart phones. My step-brother worked at Best Buy and let me know that the camera I had been drooling over was going on sale for 75% off. I was so excited I woke up at 3 AM to go drive out to the store and get it. While this was before the craziness of stampedes and month long campouts at stores, there was still a large devoted line at the doors. When I got off the highway I saw the huge amount of people and promptly turned around and went back home to sleep. A camera isn't worth that, nothing is. I like to believe that was a proto-mustachian moment for me.

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Not worth it to me. I rarely have off work the day after Thanksgiving, but this year is an exception. I plan to sleep in, prepare a late brunch with French press coffee, and maybe do some reading. Maybe I'll get in some exercise later in the day, but otherwise have no plans to go out. Black Friday traffic is as deadly as the stores anyway. 

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I'll shop online (also on "cyber Monday"), and sometimes go out to the stores for stuff I need that isn't usually the big focus of the sales. For example, BF is usually good for stocking up on motor oil for really cheap.

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Reading over this thread got me thinking maybe I should go to walmart on BF, not to buy anything but just to people watch. 

Long ago an ex GF dragged me to some department store, I think she got like all her xmass shopping done in 2hr with 20% off; was a good deal for her I guess in getting gifts she would have got anyway.  Sort of sucked getting up early, going shopping then going to work :-(  but I think I am doing that wrong.

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Nay.

I try to stay out of all retail establishments (other than grocery stores and hardware stores, for practical reasons) between Thanksgiving Day and Christmas Day -- well, really since day before and day after, respectively.  Pretty easy to do nowadays, what with online options.

If a store has a brick-and-mortar branch that is open on Thanksgiving day, I don't shop at it at all (online or off) between Thanksgiving and Christmas. 

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"SHOP" is a four-letter word.

I can't think of anything less mustachian than the idea of going to BF. The degree to which "shoppers" give up control over their time, environment, prices and purchases is so far beyond my tolerance for shenanigans that I can only hope BF caves in on itself at some point in the future due to "shopper backlash".

My plans are to conjure up something super-badass to do with that day. Maybe insourcing some yard work, bicycle or car maintenance. There's gonna be excellent homebrew as well.
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Wow, a phone plan for fifteen bucks!