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Re: Bike or public transport?
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2014, 09:20:56 PM »
I've been car-free and traveling by a combination of bike and public transport for the last five years. My commute is 12 miles round-trip, which adds up to about an hour a day when I bike the whole way. I'm traveling mostly on city roads, with a few stretches on sidewalks. It also gets dark here in the winter (and icy -- which is why I sometimes take the bus).

The follow is the equipment I use and approximately what it cost (in US dolalrs):

1) Helmet: $20
2) U-lock: $20
3) Front and rear light set: $15
4) Regular-size bike pump: $10
5) White lightening chain lube: $5/bottle (I use 3-4 bottles a year)
6) Bicycle basket: $30

I probably spend $60-70/year on bicycle maintenance, but I let the shop where I bought the bike take care of that. They have a policy that people for whom a bike is their only vehicle get moved to the front of the queue, so I always get same-day service. I actually chose to buy from that particular shop, because I knew it would be easy to walk there if I had a problem. My situation may be different than yours in that I'm rarely more than two miles from a repair shop anywhere I travel (my city puts out a bike map with all the repair places clearly marked), so if I get a flat I can just walk somewhere and get it fixed. That's why I don't bother with a tire kit. And if my tires need extra air, all the shops let you pump up for free. So someone else will have to help you with those things.

Accidents aren't inevitable, but they're always possible. I slipped on some ice walking to the bus stop one morning this winter and ended up having to wear a wrist-brace for a month. I still got up the next morning and walked to the bus, though. And I was much happier walking (and am always tremendously happier biking!) than driving in a car.

My advice re:public transportation is to transition gradually. I two-hour commute is a big undertaking, especially if you have to do it every day. I kept my bus pass for the first two years I biked, and once I got the hang of negotiating heat/sun/traffic/rain/wind/snow/fatigue/etc, I switched to paying by the trip instead of getting the monthly pass. The only conditions I won't bike in are pouring thunderstorms, because I'm afraid cars won't see me, and severely icy conditions. Pittsburgh is a city of hills and the salt trucks aren't always that reliable. I can't handle a certain amount of excitement in my life, but hitting black ice on a bike on a high-traffic road is just too much.

But you probably don't get much ice in Australia, do you? Anyway, I'm super excited that you're thinking about biking! Honestly, it's one of the best things that's ever happened to me. I feel like my life gets better by the mile. Best of luck to you!

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Re: Bike or public transport?
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2014, 05:19:39 AM »
You need a lock, but you don't need the high vis vest.  The front and back lights you should be able to get in a set and I think it is generally cheaper this way.  Lights are legally required if riding in the dark.  If riding on the road I think lights can improve visibility for drivers to know where you are as well (I like it when cyclists and motor cyclists have their lights on during the day as they aren't blending into the background as much).  I find blinking lights annoying and don't get the brightest light (i.e. 1000w lights are not legal for cars, why should bike riders use them)...

One of my work mates had an accident via being clipped by another bike rider.  On the bike paths you will need to look out for pedestrians, and apparently if you ring your bell there will be varying reactions (e.g. standing still, going on to the other side of the footpath, etc, etc), so it is easier to just ride around people than to let them know your there.

From memory some of the common problems that work mates who commute by bike have are type punctures, spokes coming out, and maybe something to do with the chain (I'm not sure on the chain part).

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Re: Bike or public transport?
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2014, 06:46:02 AM »
I have slowly acquired stuff rather than all at once. Here's what I have:

1. Topeak JoeBlow floor pump ($35)
2. Topeak PocketBlaster mini pump ($15)
3. Front and rear light set (mixed experience with cheap ones, so I'm not going to recommend a particular model. I always put the rear in blink mode. The front I run blinking at dawn/dusk but full on at dark.) $25 and up
4. At minimum you will want a vulcanizing patch kit and tire levers for changing an inner tube. I find it easier to carry a spare tube and worry about patching the old one at home rather than in the field. $20ish for kit, levers, and tube.
5. SKS P50 fenders $50 I have an older FX bike and these installed relatively easily.
6. Generic rear bike rack my parents got me and a trunk bag for tools. I'll eventually get panniers, but I think I will bungee a bin to my rack for my commute and stick my bag in there.

Everyone has their preferences as far as chains go. I got a big bottle of Simple Green Crystal degreaser for cleaning, and I've had good luck with TriFlow as a lube (only use outdoors!)

I'd avoid the vest, but possibly get a roll of reflective tape and apply to the bike.

Lights and the tire tools are the bare minimum of what you'll want. Fenders and a rack are nice to have. If you buy the bike new, the LBS may give a basically free installation. If you buy used, a lot of bikes already have them on, at least in my area.

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Re: Bike or public transport?
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2014, 01:09:08 PM »
Even if the bike cost more, you're getting the benefit of exercise at the same time.  So, factor that into your circumstance...  :-)

For me personally, I'd walk on my thumbs to work before using public transportation each day.  I've tried it before and left me wanting to stab myself in the face with a rusted fork.  I don't know how anyone can stand it.  :-)

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Re: Bike or public transport?
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2014, 01:48:09 PM »
For me personally, I'd walk on my thumbs to work before using public transportation each day.  I've tried it before and left me wanting to stab myself in the face with a rusted fork.  I don't know how anyone can stand it.  :-)

Perhaps you live in a place with a horrible public transport. I commute with a train every day (ca 35 km one way) and it's mostly a relaxing experience. Certainly better than driving the same distance every day.

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Re: Bike or public transport?
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2014, 10:31:23 PM »
Most of those accessories can probably be acquired on eBay pretty cheaply if they're occasional-use stuff. I bought a bicycle maintenance kit from Aldi a couple of years ago which has come in handy.

Depends on your circumstances. I'm about 20km from work and walking distance from a train station, and find that public transport works best for me for the commute. For short local trips (ie: to the shops) I'm more than happy to use the bike or walk.

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Re: Bike or public transport?
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2014, 11:09:35 PM »

Also: I plan to ride slowly and defensively in off-road/ completely separated bike path at all times. Is bike accident inevitable in the long haul even in this type of scenario?

No, an accident is not inevitable. " Accidents", in my experience, tend to be associated with two things: speed and shitty infrastructure.  People that race and like to go fast are the ones that end up in collisions (and I've experienced that myself, racing with cars through a stoplight and being right-hooked).  If you're cautious around congested areas (bike, pedestrian, or cars), you're pretty unlikely to have a collision.  Being forced to ride in places with bicycle infrastructure that places you in conflict with other modes (intersections are typically where these mistakes are made) heightens your chances of collisions.

If you're off-road or on completely separated paths, you're not racing, you're not drunk, and you're aware of your surroundings and reasonably cautious, you'll most likely avoid any type of collision.

I've still been in more car accidents (4, of which I was in the passenger seat in 2 of them) than bicycle accidents (1).  The amount of time I've spent biking is at least equal to the amount of time I've spent driving or riding in a car at this point in my life.

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Re: Bike or public transport?
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2014, 07:04:11 PM »
I think it's slightly more expensive here to use public transport vs bike.  My wife rides the bus every day because she likes being able to turn off and read, but I prefer not being beholden to a time table and crowds, so bike for me.

You can always mix it up when you start out and see which one you prefer.  If it's summertime you might be able to get away without a light for your first few weeks while you sort it out.

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Re: Bike or public transport?
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2014, 07:35:39 PM »
I'm looking to get a Trek FX 7.2 to commute 2 hours return trip to/ from work. I'm overwhelmed by the accessories I seem to need. Looks like I need a helmet, tyre kit, a bell, back lights, front light (it gets dark in winter where I live), a yellow vest, a small and big pump - is that all I need? Also, I'd like to do basic maintenance myself so what sort of kit do I need for that? What sort of price am I looking at for all these excluding the bike? I'm in Australia.

Also: I plan to ride slowly and defensively in off-road/ completely separated bike path at all times. Is bike accident inevitable in the long haul even in this type of scenario?

My public transport cost per year is $1050.00. Should I just forget bike keep using PT?

How many hours would it take you to commute by public transport? If it takes 2h round trip via bike and, say, 1h round trip via public, I'd stick to the public trans.

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Re: Bike or public transport?
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2014, 07:42:58 PM »
Spend a little bit more and get lights that plug into a USB port to recharge. You can sit them on your computer all day at work and you won't have to worry about them running out. Replaceable battery operated lights are for the birds, avoid at all costs.