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Safe removal of poison ivy?
« on: May 15, 2015, 08:48:57 AM »
We moved in a year ago, and discovered there is poison ivy near the swingset (prior owners co-owned it with the next door neighbor, but the ivy is mostly on our side of the set).  Our friend's kids use the swing set when they visit, so we need to remove it rather than ignoring it.  Any tips beyond wearing gloves?  And if we wear gloves, will it "live" on the gloves (in other words, do I have to worry about using the gardening gloves a week later and getting poison ivy on me then)?

We live on a pond (and it's right under our willow tree), so would prefer if possible to not use chemicals to remove it.  There are some other plants nearby mixed in with it that I'd like to keep if possible, but would sacrifice if need be.

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Re: Safe removal of poison ivy?
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2015, 08:59:25 AM »
Is there a goat available? 

If that doesn't sound very convenient, there is a roundup product made especially for poison ivy but then you still have to remove it (hence the suggestion for the goat).

My DH is very sensitive so once removal is complete, I basically have to scrub him down with witch hazel immediately to ensure the oils don't set in.

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Re: Safe removal of poison ivy?
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2015, 09:02:47 AM »
Beyond covering up well, immediately wash any skin that might be exposed with dish soap.  It is high in surfactant, so the oils will come away well.  There is also commercial soap for this, but I don't think it works better.

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Re: Safe removal of poison ivy?
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2015, 09:08:29 AM »
Poison ivy/oak oils do not break down easily.  If you don't wash away the oils, they can still cause a reaction a year later.  They are very stable oils.  It will stay on clothes/gloves/shoes, etc. until washed.

Also, to make you feel better about the willow tree, round up will only work if it comes in contact with leaves, so you should be safe, but as mentioned before, you will have to remove the vine after it dies.

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Re: Safe removal of poison ivy?
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2015, 09:17:24 AM »
Any tips beyond wearing gloves?  And if we wear gloves, will it "live" on the gloves (in other words, do I have to worry about using the gardening gloves a week later and getting poison ivy on me then)?

Yes.  As others have mentioned, it is an oil that causes the reaction.  Throwing the gloves through the washing machine will fix the problem.  Be sure what ever you wear is rubber coated or otherwise impervious.  My favorite method for small amounts is to take a plastic grocery bag, put it over my hand, pull the PI then turn the bag inside out, tie and toss.  If you have a lot of it, mowing the area short (just wear long pants and wash afterwards!) and cutting any vines on the trees will eventually kill most of it, but it will take a few years to completly eradicate.  You can start with the first two methods then follow up with a spray to clean up any residual plants that hang on.  Just about any weed/brush killer will work.  I just use generic roundup mixed 2x strength, it works well and is much cheaper than some of the fancier sprays. 

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Re: Safe removal of poison ivy?
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2015, 09:33:07 AM »
Our friends with the twins who play on it did suggest a goat :)

Ok, well I've got an old pair of sneakers I can wear and then throw in the wash.  Will either wash the gardening gloves or use plastic bags (with no visible holes).  Long pants and sleeves. Shower well after.  Roundup first, then pull out plants after?  Or the reverse?

It's not a huge area that's covered with it I think, so we can skip the lawn mower.  (Which is good because we actually have a reel mower fueled solely by good old fashioned sweat, so trying to use it around the playset/willow tree/roots would be pretty impossible anyways.)

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Re: Safe removal of poison ivy?
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2015, 10:07:03 AM »
Our friends with the twins who play on it did suggest a goat :)

Ok, well I've got an old pair of sneakers I can wear and then throw in the wash.  Will either wash the gardening gloves or use plastic bags (with no visible holes).  Long pants and sleeves. Shower well after.  Roundup first, then pull out plants after?  Or the reverse?

It's not a huge area that's covered with it I think, so we can skip the lawn mower.  (Which is good because we actually have a reel mower fueled solely by good old fashioned sweat, so trying to use it around the playset/willow tree/roots would be pretty impossible anyways.)

Don't pull it out up front unless you can get the entire root system. A method that should transport easily to poison ivy is what I am doing for buckthorn. Cut it low, apply high concentrate (50% glyphosate) directly to the stump and then pull it at your convenience once it's dead. Glyphosate applied in this way will kill the entire root system with virtually no spread to other plants, since it's straight applied and degrades over time. You can also use triclopyr to kill the leaves first, which makes the roundup application easier if the vines are really grown out a lot.

Just don't burn it. My mom just about died when someone nearby threw a big pile of dead poison ivy on a burn pile "accidentally" and she is super allergic.

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Re: Safe removal of poison ivy?
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2015, 10:31:44 AM »
Ivy, poison or not, is difficult to kill. 

You want to minimize your "pulling time":   

Go out and clip the plant at the root ... and then walk away for about a week.  This will allow the plant to begin to shrivel and die, and when you go out to pull the vines, they'll be weak and will part easily from the trees, etc. to which they are currently attached. 

Have trash bags or trash cans ready and waiting BEFORE you start touching the vines.

Cover your skin, even the skin under the clothing, with a thick layer of lotion.  You can get IvyGuard, but that's expensive, and all you really need is a layer of something as an extra layer of protection for your skin. 

Wear long pants, long-sleeved shirt, and gloves. 
And eye protection.  Take especial care not to touch your face and eyes as you work. 

Have your washing machine standing empty so that when you come into the house you can immediately shed your clothing -- don't let it sit in a basket or on your bed. 

Go straight to the shower and scrub yourself head to toe.
Scrub your hands first, then your face ... then move on to the rest of your body. 

Once all that is done, you still have to deal with the roots.  Watch for them to pop up with new leaves, and spray them with Round Up (or similar).  Most of those products work by preventing the plant from photosynthesis (eating), so the plant will die; but that means you can't use the sprays on roots -- only on leaves.  You'll need to keep spraying them ... probably all summer, but if you work hard at it now, the problem will be gone.  If you use halfway measures, you'll still be dealing with it next year ... and the next ... and the next. 

And none of this is as bad as dealing with a child who has poison ivy all over himself, especially if it's in his eyes. 


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Re: Safe removal of poison ivy?
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2015, 10:40:06 AM »
I agree with Mrs Pete's methods, except that I've had some good luck spraying the root/stump of plants - this is because it will start growing new shoots almost immediately, and those shoots can be hindered by the Roundup. I agree that you'll probably need to do a second spraying about a week later.

I don't think you'll need to spray all Summer. The active ingredient in Round Up should easily kill your poison ivy if the plant is actively growing (which it will be). Although you should monitor the area for new plants.

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Re: Safe removal of poison ivy?
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2015, 10:58:34 AM »
This is a yearly ritual for me. I will never eradicate it, but I can at least get rid of it in the areas of my yard that I want to enjoy. It's best to do it when the ground is wet so you can pull up the roots more easily. Put on a homemade hazmat suit (long sleeves, gloves, long pants, socks, etc.) and be ready to wash it all and yourself as soon as you're done, as others have said. Maybe only pull it up for ten or fifteen minutes and then head to the washer/shower--I've heard that after 15 minutes, the oil is bound to your skin and won't wash off. Back in the day, I tried roundup on the stuff to no avail and felt guilty about it and also spent a bunch of money on it. When I pull it by hand, I occasionally get spots of poison ivy and just live with it--much more ecological. This approach probably isn't good for folks who are severely allergic!

I actually rented goats a few years ago--they seemed to like everything but the poison ivy, but I only had them for about three weeks, so I wonder if they would have eventually eaten it if they had stayed longer. Good luck getting rid of it! It is sort of satisfying to pull the damn stuff up by the roots!


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Re: Safe removal of poison ivy?
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2015, 11:54:57 AM »
For your viewing pleasure:

http://www.poison-ivy.org/rash

I should have taken pictures when I got a real bad case a few years ago, I would have made in for sure!

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Re: Safe removal of poison ivy?
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2015, 12:11:16 PM »
For your viewing pleasure:

http://www.poison-ivy.org/rash

I should have taken pictures when I got a real bad case a few years ago, I would have made in for sure!

That is so disturbing, and I didn't even make it far in.  I will take care!  And until we get it out of there, we will be careful with the twins (luckily it's not actually near the slide or the stairs, so that's why they haven't gotten it yet).  It was very entertaining to listen to their dad explain very seriously to 3.5 year olds what poison ivy looks like - and then have them shout out in worry for fear he's in the "bad plants" when he took a step back when he was pushing them on the swings.  It will be much less entertaining if they get it, hence our desire to remove it.
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Re: Safe removal of poison ivy?
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2015, 12:26:19 PM »
If you are dealing at all with poison ivy make sure to have some of this on hand and wash yourself / tools etc. with it after exposure.

http://www.teclabsinc.com/products/poison-oak-ivy/tecnu

If you miss any spots and happen to get the rash the Tec-Nu is still good to wash with (gently) and it will help dry up the rash.

Also - if you do get a rash / blisters from it they will likely "weep" clear fluid - you can NOT spread the rash via that fluid - only from the oils from the plant itself.

I've spent many years as a field geologist and had some nasty run-ins with this stuff - the Tec-Nu is the only thing I've found that gives you a fighting chance...

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Re: Safe removal of poison ivy?
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2015, 01:25:47 PM »
A super cheap and very effective thing I've found to kill any invasive plant is a simple mixture of 1/2 gallon vinegar, 1/2 gallon water, 1 cup salt. Wait until it's been dry for a few days so whatever you want to kill is thirsty, and spray some of that on it. When it rains it will dilute anything left enough that it won't kill anything else with runoff either.

Just be careful with your spray, as it will pretty much kill anything you spray it on. Spray enough and it'll even kill a tree.

I don't know the exact science behind it... something about vinegar helping to force the plant to absorb the salt or something... all I know is that after a good afternoon, the dandelions in my driveway are dead all the way through the root, and the ivy that grew on my back fence has never come back.

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Re: Safe removal of poison ivy?
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2015, 01:40:28 PM »
Round-Up does make a Poison Ivy version. We bought it to kill honeysuckle, since nothing seems to kill that sucker. 

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Re: Safe removal of poison ivy?
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2015, 01:44:01 PM »
We just pour boiling water on the plant.  Kills it very well and completely harmless chemically.

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Re: Safe removal of poison ivy?
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2015, 04:57:17 PM »
You may be worried for nothing. Some people don't even react to it, or at least it would take a lot to react to it. I break out just looking at it.

 

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