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Alternative showering to cut down on energy bills?
« on: January 10, 2016, 08:14:56 AM »
A thread in the badass forum sparked this, there folks were talking about taking showers at the gym instead of at home to save heating water up. Which made me think, why not use alternative lower energy cost methods of cleaning?

My first thought was the baby wipe bath, but cost for wipes and environmental impact not good. But what about good old fashioned wetting a washcloth with warm water and wiping down? I grew up in a house without a shower (old school claw foot bathtub) and we would wash up like this as kids just due to not wanting to fill up the tub.

Seems like a combo of this and showers at work or the gym and you could basically eliminate the cost of water heating for showers.

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Re: Alternative showering to cut down on energy bills?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2016, 03:30:08 PM »
Probably - but you have the cost of a gym membership and baby wipes to consider... Honestly, there is a point where frugal roles over into cheap. For me that would be somewhere before I start using baby wipes  as my primary  means of bathing. I also like to wash my hair a few times per week, which is most easily and quickly accomplished in the shower at home.

ETA: Running my hot water heater in a household of mostly 4 (boyfriend here a lot of the time) with 2 long showerers, and my gas stove (only gas appliances) costs me less than $20 per month. A bigger issue is actually the cost of water, which is more expensive than the monthly gas bill - but includes laundry, dishwasher, consumption of water, occasional outside use, etc.
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Re: Alternative showering to cut down on energy bills?
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2016, 03:35:12 PM »
How about letting/requiring your dog to lick you all over?

The saltier you get first, the happier you both are in the end.

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Re: Alternative showering to cut down on energy bills?
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2016, 03:38:53 PM »
How about letting/requiring your dog to lick you all over?

The saltier you get first, the happier you both are in the end.

Best idea evar! :D

On the reply above this though, we're assuming you have a gym membership for working out (maybe even subsidized by your employer) so you're not getting it for that purpose, just using something you have already for that purpose.

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Re: Alternative showering to cut down on energy bills?
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2016, 05:47:31 PM »
If you have choices of gyms to join, here's a thought

Our ONLY Gym in town has no showers but it's dirt cheap. Open 24/7. It's rare if anyone is there beyond 10pm.

$35 a mo. (excellent price!) versus $60-$80 at the other gyms in nearby towns

You could blow one of these up in the bathroom, use a cup to pour water in, bring a little towel then rub a dub dub...you're good to go

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Play-Day-Baby-Pool-Monkey/41737561?action=product_interest&action_type=title&item_id=41737561&placement_id=irs-2-m2&strategy=PWVAV&visitor_id&category=&client_guid=946d6d20-d7fa-4212-aa15-e822d873d57b&customer_id_enc&config_id=2&parent_item_id=34335814&parent_anchor_item_id=34335814&guid=7aa0c994-fe2c-4923-97a0-110f7c24d99b&bucket_id=irsbucketdefault&beacon_version=1.0.1&findingMethod=p13n
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Re: Alternative showering to cut down on energy bills?
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2016, 06:00:23 PM »
A thread in the badass forum sparked this, there folks were talking about taking showers at the gym instead of at home to save heating water up. Which made me think, why not use alternative lower energy cost methods of cleaning?

My first thought was the baby wipe bath, but cost for wipes and environmental impact not good. But what about good old fashioned wetting a washcloth with warm water and wiping down? I grew up in a house without a shower (old school claw foot bathtub) and we would wash up like this as kids just due to not wanting to fill up the tub.

Seems like a combo of this and showers at work or the gym and you could basically eliminate the cost of water heating for showers.
As they said in the 70's, "Save water, shower with your steady"
I swim at the local college at 5am, and take my shower after that 4 days a week,
so yes, it has trimmed my electric bill.

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Re: Alternative showering to cut down on energy bills?
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2016, 06:20:11 PM »
Might as well stop washing your underwear and socks while you're at it.

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Re: Alternative showering to cut down on energy bills?
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2016, 07:55:22 PM »
I was laughing at some of the tongue n cheek responses.  The potential for saving money are pretty marginal and I'd focus your attention on tackling bigger expenses.  From an environmental/conservation standpoint, my strategy includes limiting my water use by showering less frequently when I don't workout, taking shorter showers, using a 1.6 gpm max showerhead and turning down the flow when lathering up, and turning down your water heater's temperature to reduce standby losses (keep it high enough to avoid nasty stuff growing in it though). I believe my gas usage for in the summer (laundry, dishwasher, faucets and shower) runs about 3 therms which is an extra $1.50 after paying the fixed portion of the bill. If your energy / hot water bills are really high for some reason you could also look into solar hot water heaters.
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Re: Alternative showering to cut down on energy bills?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2016, 03:21:49 AM »
I was laughing at some of the tongue n cheek responses.  The potential for saving money are pretty marginal and I'd focus your attention on tackling bigger expenses.  From an environmental/conservation standpoint, my strategy includes limiting my water use by showering less frequently when I don't workout, taking shorter showers, using a 1.6 gpm max showerhead and turning down the flow when lathering up, and turning down your water heater's temperature to reduce standby losses (keep it high enough to avoid nasty stuff growing in it though). I believe my gas usage for in the summer (laundry, dishwasher, faucets and shower) runs about 3 therms which is an extra $1.50 after paying the fixed portion of the bill. If your energy / hot water bills are really high for some reason you could also look into solar hot water heaters.

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Instead of smelling like a heathen to your friends/co-workers (yes, just because *you* can't smell it...doesn't mean you don't stink)...if you really want to save a couple bucks a month on water then:

1. Turn your water heater temp down to the lowest safe value (no legionella, thank you).  Or just buy a gas tankless hot water heater.
2. Only use the water briefly when you need it in the shower.  You can literally take a shower with the actual water running for less than 60 seconds total and you'll take an effective shower.  Like less than 2gal water total.
3. Or just take a quick cold shower.  That's at least better than wiping yourself down with a product meant to clean shit off a baby's ass.





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Re: Alternative showering to cut down on energy bills?
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2016, 01:43:28 PM »
I've done the wash cloth wipe down, but not to save money--because out here in CO, my skin gets suuuuper dry in the winter. Mr. FP would definitely let me know if I was smelling. If you wash the parts that are prone to smell every day and your whole person every other (or even every third), you should be good to go.

I have also sometimes done the military shower--wet down, turn off water while you soap up, turn water back on. But I need to get adhesive no-slip strips or something, because when I've done this, the floor gets really slippery from the soap (maybe more so the baking soda I wash my hair with) and not having the water running.

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Re: Alternative showering to cut down on energy bills?
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2016, 01:55:14 PM »
An employee of our company is living in an RV and is saving ALOT of money not having rent or a house payment. We live in California.
She has the perfect job to do so. I mention it because if someone wants to save alot of money with little skills, they can. This is an example of us as Supervisors, we only make about 2-3 more dollars per hour but the other employees, they make about $1 more than minimum wage and sleep half of the overnight shift.

She works two 18 hr shifts as a Supervisor. She happens to sit with the same lady (Client) I do.. Doing paperwork as a Supervisor part of the shift but only about 45 minutes of it. With access to the Clients shower about 9pm (when Client goes to bed) then access again in the morning if she chooses to shower at 6:15 am, she can technically shower a few times in 9 hrs time She takes long showers, blowdries her hair and curls it before bed. Then rinses off again the next day. So it's more like she fully showers twice a week, rinses off 3 times per week. That leaves two days without a shower or freshening up by rinsing off.

Since Federal law requires we have a private bedroom with a comfortable bed, she told me those are the two nights she sleeps like a baby.

She belongs to our only local gym in town which has no showers @ $35 mo. But as I stated, their huge bathrooms so I assume she uses a tiny blow up pool to rinse off and works out later at night for a reason, no one's there. There is maybe 3-7 people there at once anyhow, and most are men. So you'd not likely be holding up the women's bathroom long. It would cost about $110 to belong to a nicer gym with showers in a nearby town, that is gas, wear and tear and the added monthly membership costs. And that would give her access to a shower 3 more times a week, not just rinsing off. Is it worth it?

So she's fully showered, washed hair and such during work hours twice a week. Rinsed off 3 other days per week after gym workout. Seems good enough to get by for the amount of money she is saving. After she has her own house, she is going to start College and look for a better paying job. She makes $12 per hour now but sleeps 8 hrs of the 18 hr shift and it's easy so I am guessing she is in no hurry. She takes home $1550 per month (we are paid driving time also, .50cents per mile, about $100 extra per mo). She cooks her meals at the clients house but otheriwse eats in her vehicle the other days which she hates. She needs just one more shift per week but that goes into paying overtime and our Company will not do that. So her only other choice is to somehow get a third shift caring for someone else in a house, somehow. Most everyone wants to fully shower at least 3 days a week right? (about every other day). Once moved into her own dwelling, she'll start looking for a higher paying job.

So to look at it from her perspective, warm water is VERY expensive for her. I admire her tenacity and ability to save over $1000 a month



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Re: Alternative showering to cut down on energy bills?
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2016, 02:23:58 PM »
At this point, there are either much more important things, or you are trying to optimize trivial things. Low flow showerhead, tankless gas water heater(or solar hot water heater), short shower times. 3 gallons per minute, one minute shower, and that is 21 gallons of water per week. You would save more water digging a latrine and shitting outside.


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Re: Alternative showering to cut down on energy bills?
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2016, 02:56:28 PM »
I have seen a difference in my utility bill after a month of heavy work travel.  And yeah showering at the gym is a second good option if you are going to work out anyway-get in early and take only one shower per day.

Was talking to a friend of mine who lives in the south bay (ie San Jose California) and living in an RV came up, he agreed that it is a good financial option for many in much of California but around my parts you can rent a room for around 500$/mon.  The math is just a lot harder to make work in much of the US or at least the savings are much much smaller to where most people probably would not consider living off grid in an RV full time.   

GF would fight very hard to keep the current shower head vs going low flow.  I think the low flow are great and give good pressure but she claims it is impossible to rinse her hair (its not that thick but is really hard for me to to argue the point).

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Re: Alternative showering to cut down on energy bills?
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2016, 03:38:12 PM »
I did some rough math on what we spend on showers in a year.  This is based on Northern CA gas and water rates (PG&E gas, San Mateo county water), and our household usage of 2 people, with my wife showering at the gym three times a week.  This uses some simplifying assumptions, and our local rates are high by US standards.

With our 2.5gpm showerhead, we paid the following:
Gas- $0.17/shower, $94.71/year
Water: $0.21/shower, $121.23/year
Total: $0.38/shower, $215.95/year

By downsizing to a 1.5gpm showerhead, I estimate we'll end up with the following:
Gas- $0.1/shower, $56.83/year
Water: $0.13/shower, $72.74/year
Total: $0.23/shower, $129.57/year

So with an efficient showerhead, we're cleaning 2 people for about $11/month.  I'm comfortable with this level of spend for showers.

I do recommend doing this math based on your personal utility and usage rates.  You learn a bit about how this stuff is priced and what is really costing you money.

 

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