Affordable Care Act, not a political discussion!!

[iamlindoro]

What I was saying is that mental illness is not a health related medical problem.

I know what you're saying.  It's false.

If you think there is a chance you might use this type of insurance, go ahead and buy a policy for it, but do no expect me to pay my premiums for something I don't want or need.  There is a reason why employer plans didn't include this, it's because they viewed it as a waste of money, a black hole, and employees didn't look for this in their plans either, they wanted broken bones and hearts to be fixed. 

That's one interpretation.  Another is that some mental illness is not well understood, that the sufferers are made to feel shame and fear about seeking treatment, and that there is a misperception that it's not a health related problem.  As a result, our treatment of these illnesses as any other is failing, in part due to the fact that insurers have failed to cover it.

[randymarsh]

There is a reason why employer plans didn't include this, it's because they viewed it as a waste of money...

Employers deciding what my health is worth is a great system.

I don't know what group plan you're on, but mine covers mental health care. At least part of it.

[rocksinmyhead]

What I was saying is that mental illness is not a health related medical problem.

I know what you're saying.  It's false.

If you think there is a chance you might use this type of insurance, go ahead and buy a policy for it, but do no expect me to pay my premiums for something I don't want or need.  There is a reason why employer plans didn't include this, it's because they viewed it as a waste of money, a black hole, and employees didn't look for this in their plans either, they wanted broken bones and hearts to be fixed. 

That's one interpretation.  Another is that some mental illness is not well understood, that the sufferers are made to feel shame and fear about seeking treatment, and that there is a misperception that it's not a health related problem.  As a result, our treatment of these illnesses as any other is failing, in part due to the fact that insurers have failed to cover it.

Thank you for trying. I honestly feel like this guy isn't worth talking to anymore :(

[rocketman48097]

I understand, someone disagrees with you, so instead of listening to their valid points, you ignore. 

I know what I am talking about, and this is meaningless to me.  This law was designed to subsidize me as I age and I can easily work around it.  It's going to hurt you much more than it's ever going to hurt me.  I love when people who are 25, covered by their parents policies, have such great opinions about something they don't have to pay for.  Don't worry, even this luck of the Obama draw is running out next year when you join the rest of us. 

[rocksinmyhead]

I understand, someone disagrees with you, so instead of listening to their valid points, you ignore. 

I know what I am talking about, and this is meaningless to me.  This law was designed to subsidize me as I age and I can easily work around it.  It's going to hurt you much more than it's ever going to hurt me.  I love when people who are 25, covered by their parents policies, have such great opinions about something they don't have to pay for.  Don't worry, even this luck of the Obama draw is running out next year when you join the rest of us.

I'm not sure who this is addressed to, but I am not covered by my parents' health insurance. I have group insurance through my employer.

I enjoy hearing viewpoints that I don't agree with, and I'm always open to having my mind changed. So far you haven't convinced me on anything, though. I found many of your suggestions to be (in my opinion) unethical, and your description of mental illness as "not a health related medical problem" to be incorrect and even offensive. You can discount anything I say because you assume I lack life experience and mooch off my parents/don't provide for myself (I'll give ya the first one, but you would be wrong on the second), but your own opinions indicate a lack of experience with mental illness that makes me inclined to write off your views as well. You may accuse us of "ignoring your valid points," but you don't seem like you are open to changing your mind anytime soon, either, which makes it not really worth it to attempt to communicate with you... which is what I was getting at with the "not really worth talking to anymore" comment.

Oh, and my employer plan does cover mental health care as well.

Finally, I know I shouldn't take the bait but this:

I also like to throw my plastic cups in the "garbage" bin at Whole Foods to make people like you squirm. 

struck me as really strange and immature. Plus, if you're so good with money what are you doing at Whole Foods?!?

[rocketman48097]

Great, your employer plan is regulated by your state and the ACA, which will cause additional employer plans to get cancelled.

Let's see, why do I eat at WF?  Because I am 37, make over 100k per year, and care deeply about my health, and it's next door to where I work.  I don't go everyday and go to subway instead.  I used to be young and poor, but even back then there would be no way in hell I would have ever supported Obamacare, nor does anyone else given the low sign up numbers. 

[CanuckExpat]

This thread appears to unsurprisingly going off rails...

Cline, did you ever find a plan that works for you?