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How did you know what you wanted to do?
« on: December 30, 2018, 11:20:28 AM »
I guess this is a question for some of you who are further in their careers and/or in a job/career that you are happy with and in for the long run.

I've been working in a low paying industry since college (outdoor industry) and in various roles: retail, buying, selling, etc. I'm no longer feeling excited about what I'm doing, I know I am ready for a career move, and have been struggling with exactly what. to. do. I have a degree in exercise science, and always thought I'd just use that at some point. The older I get though, the less excited I am to work with people on health/fitness. I work in a pretty...superficial industry right now (sports, outdoor recreation, etc) and not that there is anything wrong with that...but lately I have been feeling like I want to do more. I want to help people in a more "real" way, and not sure what direction that points me in. Over the past few years I have felt a pull in a career direction, only to change my mind a few months later. I've thought of public health, exercise physiology, social work and teaching. What I'm struggling with is picking a direction, and the fear that I won't actually like what I've chosen. Some of my career ideas involve getting more education, which I'm fine with as well.

All of that wall of text is really just to ask...how did you know what you wanted to do? How do you pick, and if you really like your job, what aspects of it make it satisfactory for you? Is it possible to have a job you are truly passionate about, or should I just focus on finding something that is stable, decently paying, and challenging?

I feel silly asking these questions at 28, and I feel that I should be further along at this point, but I haven't really been that worried about finding a "career" until the past year or two. Now I feel super behind!

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2018, 01:02:46 PM »
I wish I had an answer for you.  I'm 42, and by all outward appearances I have a fantastic job.  I have a great boss, lots of autonomy, high pay, good co-workers, decent work-life balance, etc.  However, I believe that there is no job in the world that I would like.  None.  I want to read the books I want to read, pick up a new musical instrument and after a few months drop it if I don't like practicing, sleep in when I feel like it, go for a hike on a whim, jet off to visit family or friends, jet off to get away from family or friends, or whatever the heck I want to do.  I decided to maximize my income given my skills and education, and then just maneuvered into a role that sucked as little as possible.  I then maintained a balance of spending to stay reasonably happy while working and saving to get the heck out as soon as I could.  There are plusses and minuses to this approach.  I'll be fatFIRE'd at 43, and really won't have to think about work for the rest of my life.  On the other hand I spent most of my 20s and 30s in a cubicle or a conference room. 

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2018, 03:03:39 PM »
I kind of fell into what I do now.  It turned out to be an OK career and job but not my absolute passion which is why I'm interested in FIRE.  I recommend that you read Po Bronson's "What Should I do with my Life?"  I found it a really thought provoking read.

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2018, 03:10:35 PM »
For me. It was easy.  Private industry for me equalled slightly more than minimum wage, with a college degree.

Could not even get an interview with a major corporation to save my life, let alone a job offer.

You can badmouth the Federal government all you want (and I do), but they hired me when no one else would.

Check out www.USAJobs.gov

I have been working in various capacities for over 30 years now.  Most work is bullshit.  However, I don't know of a feasible alternative.

I feel like there is way too much emphasis on work in this country.  I mean, you show up way more than 200 days daily for work.  You would think when it snows out or the roads are icy, your employer could say just stay home.

And I get 26 days off a year plus some Holidays.  I feel badly for those who only get 10, or less.

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2018, 03:29:59 PM »
I never really did to be honest. Started off in personal training cause that was what I was into at that time. I used to compete in powerlifting and traveled so naturally progressed to emergency medicine(EMT) to take advantage of the 24hr on 48hr off schedule(to travel)
 It was there that I rediscovered my passion for helping and caring for people. I became a paramedic and eventually a nurse and now a nurse supervisor.
 Some days I joke that I still don’t know what I want to do.
 My advice if anything is to jump into something full force but always keep an eye out if something else better is within your reach. Fortunately all my jumps I was able to do while still working full time but all came with a sacrifice including not competing for an extended time as I was in school at night.  And now I’m old(30’s) and have no desire to compete.
 Good luck, it’s hard when there are so many options ahead of you.


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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2018, 04:13:32 PM »
My career was my hobby. I actually resisted it a bit in the early days because despite the rapid growth of computing/networking doing it meant a full time job and I was way more interested in sliding down mountains, riding bikes and partying. I did eventually decide to do it full time and do it well.

I knew that I could be good at it when I was going back and forth between dealing cards and doing IT for a living. I had played a MUD in my early teens and that required a little bit of *nix and scripting. In my early 20's I got handed a failing unix server cluster to manage and was able to pretty intuitively work with it to get it back to a healthy state. I figured if I was able to draw on a dim memory of that gaming from when I was a kid to apply to a present day problem I must be wired right for this.

I guess my question for you is why do you think sports and outdoor recreation is a superficial industry? Mountain biking, snowboarding and being outdoors doing sports is a deep part of my identity and I think those industries are amazing. Especially the bikes, OMG the things you can do now with the right equipment even compared to less than a decade ago. I know retail might not be the same as say working with an athlete to enable them to push the boundaries of the sport, but maybe it's the part of the industry you're in?

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2018, 04:23:22 PM »
It was really by accident - when I got serious about FIRE I made the switch to office work from crappy McJobs, and at the time what I was able to get was office clerk/assistant type jobs. Most of those jobs include at least some degree of reception coverage, which I found I quite liked, and was good at. My role shifted more and more that direction until I was at about 50% reception 50% clerk, and I finally switched to 100% reception at a different company.

I don't have any expectations to absolutely love a job - I see working as a means to an end, and planned on a pretty short working career from the get go. My expectations are for it to be at least mildly pleasant, pay enough to retire in my 30s, low stress, good hours, and walking distance from my apartment. There are, surprisingly, a shockingly large number of these positions available in my area at any given time, so for example, the last two job searches I've done both took less than two weeks.

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2018, 04:46:43 PM »
My career was my hobby. I actually resisted it a bit in the early days because despite the rapid growth of computing/networking doing it meant a full time job and I was way more interested in sliding down mountains, riding bikes and partying. I did eventually decide to do it full time and do it well.

I knew that I could be good at it when I was going back and forth between dealing cards and doing IT for a living. I had played a MUD in my early teens and that required a little bit of *nix and scripting. In my early 20's I got handed a failing unix server cluster to manage and was able to pretty intuitively work with it to get it back to a healthy state. I figured if I was able to draw on a dim memory of that gaming from when I was a kid to apply to a present day problem I must be wired right for this.

I guess my question for you is why do you think sports and outdoor recreation is a superficial industry? Mountain biking, snowboarding and being outdoors doing sports is a deep part of my identity and I think those industries are amazing. Especially the bikes, OMG the things you can do now with the right equipment even compared to less than a decade ago. I know retail might not be the same as say working with an athlete to enable them to push the boundaries of the sport, but maybe it's the part of the industry you're in?

Mountain biking, skiing, hiking and being outdoors is a deep part of my identity, as well. It is the thing that makes my life feel fuller than anything else can. I race bikes competitively, ski for fun, and hike in all of my other free time. It basically is my life.  That is actually one of the reasons I want to be out of this industry...the struggle of low pay, stressful hours (especially in the summer) and talking about bikes all day kind of ruins some of the joy, for me. I want to talk about bikes less...I don't really get that excited about the newest, greatest bikes anymore..I promise it gets old after a while. I have friends who work at big (non retail) bike companies who feel the same way. I don't think it's just a retail issue.  I wonder if I was removed from the outdoor industry, how much more I would appreciate the things I'm already passionate about. I currently have no trouble getting myself outside to ride, ski, hike, etc...but I've worked with many people over my years in this industry that have completely lost their passion for being an athlete, and enjoying the outdoors. These are people who have worked in bike shops, outdoor stores, etc for 10-20 years. I just don't see that for myself...I never want to lose the passion I have, and feel that it's my time to move in a different direction to preserve that.

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2018, 04:59:51 PM »
It’s a great question. I never had a solid plan for a career. And when I finished university, there was a downturn in the economy, with a hiring freeze in government and few opportunities in the private sector. I applied for positions in a multitude of industries, and finally landed an entry level job in health care, doing analytical and info systems training work wherein I bridged the gap between clinicians and IT. It turned out to be a growth area, with plenty of opportunities for advancement and lots of tech innovations over the years to keep things interesting, and the work was satisfying for many years. But it was never really a passion. I suspect I could have been equally ok in many other careers.

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2018, 05:21:17 PM »
Mountain biking, skiing, hiking and being outdoors is a deep part of my identity, as well. It is the thing that makes my life feel fuller than anything else can. I race bikes competitively, ski for fun, and hike in all of my other free time. It basically is my life.  That is actually one of the reasons I want to be out of this industry...the struggle of low pay, stressful hours (especially in the summer) and talking about bikes all day kind of ruins some of the joy, for me. I want to talk about bikes less...I don't really get that excited about the newest, greatest bikes anymore..I promise it gets old after a while. I have friends who work at big (non retail) bike companies who feel the same way. I don't think it's just a retail issue.  I wonder if I was removed from the outdoor industry, how much more I would appreciate the things I'm already passionate about. I currently have no trouble getting myself outside to ride, ski, hike, etc...but I've worked with many people over my years in this industry that have completely lost their passion for being an athlete, and enjoying the outdoors. These are people who have worked in bike shops, outdoor stores, etc for 10-20 years. I just don't see that for myself...I never want to lose the passion I have, and feel that it's my time to move in a different direction to preserve that.

Understood, and this has happened to me as well. I used to build firewalls out of old computer equipment in my parent's basement. I built my own water cooled overclocked gaming PC before those things were common. I spent a lot of time researching new hardware, keeping up on emerging trends, labbing things up to prove them and of course playing games. These days I work at a very high level in tech, but at home I pretty much use computers for a few forums, watching netflix and so one. I have a small lab with some security equipment but don't use it much, definitely not what I'd call a hobby anymore.

The passion that I still have for it is applied to the enjoyable problem solving at work and having a 'mission'. A big part of my later career has been enabling people to work from anywhere with the same level of performance, security and access that they'd have in an office. It's something that I truly feel makes the world a better place. It allows people flexibility in work location, gives them back time saved in a commute and keeps cars off the road. Also worth noting that this particular niche and my level allows *ME* the flexibility and autonomy to do things that I like way more than work, like spending time with my family and hucking myself off stuff.

I do understand where you're coming from and I think that you're right to try to protect what you love. I actually don't race bikes for the same reason, for me that would make it too much of a job. Do challenging epics or session a feature I'm scared of? Hells yeah! Sling some dirt to keep the local trails in shape? Absolutely. But anything that I think would add too much drudgery or look like work I avoid.

For you I don't know if this means leaving the industry and keeping it truly a hobby? Or finding some part of the industry that will pay better, offer more flexibility, etc. I mean, outdoor companies need CPAs, engineers and lawyers too. This is something that no one else is going to be able to make the call for you on.

One final note. Don't be worried about your age. I was 30 when I decided to get a real job and I'm still on track to retire at 55. Would be earlier but I need to put kids through college. If they even go, I did fine as a dropout. ;)


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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2018, 05:29:31 PM »
I wanted to go into sciences growing up. I wanted be a doctor. But I saw many people become engineers succeed in life and didn't have much in terms of resources or backing to become a doctor. So became a engineer. I was mostly driving blind, so to speak. But I think examples around me played big part subconsciously.

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2018, 05:52:01 PM »
Bit of a ramble, here goes:

What did you gravitate toward as a kid? The reason I ask is we usually have the freedom to do what we want when we're not paying the bills. If it was smoking pot and playing video games, well not sure what to tell ya, heh, but most likely there's something in your youth that you gravitated towards and provides a clue onto what career might "fit" you. Anything you were unusually good at or praised for that might parlay into a career?

As a young child, I was bookish, indoors, and was constantly building things or drawing things. When school began to eat up my time, I slid by doing the minimal amount of work to get to the next grade. I never applied myself, didn't get a chance to "grow" much or figure out what I wanted to do because I simply hated school and pretty much read books or played video games whenever I could as an escape, which also served cover (yes Mom this book is for school, yes Mom I have to use the computer for a project  lol).Then I got out and became an "adult." First job was at 7-11 and still I went to community college to aimlessly figure my shit out. Didn't work, got bored, failed all my second semester classes. Went work at a sofa company my dad managed. Fricken hell that was an eye opener. All the "important" things I was taught the preceding 20 years were lies. Cursive-lie, math-lie, spelling-lie, English-a big fecking lie. What I learned there was attitude, desire, and simply doing what YOU want was the key, I kinda wised up. I was good with my hands, learned a lot there. Learned that learning things was easy if you pick a direction you fit in. Then I went to another company to make more money, with that knowledge. It was a bit of a time waster, but I did figure out my eventual path while there-refrigeration mechanic. Another hands on career. Went to school, got fired, found a new job, now I'm at where I want to be.

I was raised thinking I had to be good at whatever I was exposed to, education wise or anything really.  Recognizing what you're "good" at or "comfortable" without attaching a value judgment to whatever it is saves so much time. My bro dropped out of school, manages the place I used to work at with my Dad and is a natural fit. He's a people person, a big picture person and to bog him down with tiny unimportant details is a total waste of time. I'm glad he dropped out. A diploma from high school would have meant nothing in terms of who he is and would have wasted an extra 2 years of his life. If my parents weren't so busy burying the person I was trying to be as a kid, I might've figured life out a lot sooner. First 20 years of my life was simply avoiding criticism or trying to please someone. I can't blame em, getting Ds and Fs in school isn't something to strive for, but damn life is so much more than grades in school. Passion gets a bad rap now a days, but that's what we should be stoking in kids. I'd like it if my daughter was a scientist, but if she's a cheerleader and loves it, I'm stoking that passion. Hell, she might have the people skills to be a captain if her squad, or the CEO of some multinational corporation. Never know.

Anyway, apologies for the ramble. If you don't know what ya wanna do, what were you interested in growing up? What'd you hate? Tons of clues in your youth. Unbury things teachers and parents might have thought were weaknesses or wastes of time. We live in the United States, if you screw up and fall ass backwards, hell you might end up succeeding in something else.

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2018, 06:48:01 PM »

I second the recommendation for Po Bronson's book.  He wrote about a number of people who completely changed their careers, sometimes several times, and you get the feeling that these people were not making mistakes or wasting their time/effort in a career they left behind.  They were simply discovering themselves and understanding what they didn't like in a career.  I would pick a direction and go with it, and don't look to your fears to hold you back.

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2018, 08:08:30 PM »
Mountain, here’s what I discovered: it’s not just one thing. I’ve had at least 5 different career changes, and I might have some more after I formally retire. It’s the journey, not the destination. You don’t have to find the one thing for life, find something for now. When that gets to be less than what you want and you can afford it (time, money and what else is in your life), change. This world gives you the ability to be many things, try them out—live. You only get one life.

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2018, 06:14:03 AM »
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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2018, 08:59:41 AM »
I picked engineering because I liked math and science and it paid better than a lot of other options.  I also liked language, English, and history.

I think you give people too much credit for knowing what they want.

For me, first I was in the Navy (they paid for college).  I got a master's at night and thought "hey, manufacturing looks like it would be cool".  I've always liked working with my hands, even though it was super intimidating.

I literally took the first job offer in my desired location when I got out of the Navy.  When that company went out of business, I took the next job offer. 

I've mostly liked everything since.  Moved companies one more time.  I have changed jobs WITHIN a company to learn new skills - once you are in a position, you  have the opportunity to look around and see what else is "there".

I went from lithography to semiconductors, to design & test, to management, to product engineering, throw some quality and database programming in there.  Now I'm in program management (which I honestly don't love!)

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2018, 09:03:23 AM »
I didn't.

Going to college I realized I didn't want to do what my parents were nudging me towards. Ended up dropping out and working in retail (2010). Starting as an associate I ended up in management, from there I already knew about FIRE and this site/forum. It all because a game to get to the highest savings rate possible and exit the rate race ASAP. I still don't know what I want to do when I grow up, but now it doesn't have to be about the $$$.

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2018, 09:33:00 AM »
"A failure to plan is a plan to fail."

When I turned 30 and realized I didn't want to be a poor slacker anymore, I sat down with myself and decided what I wanted my job to look like:

1. I didn't want to dress up. (This eliminated many MANY jobs).

2. I didn't want to have to go to a lot of meetings.

3. As an introvert, I was happiest working mostly by myself.

4. Having spent my 20s in creative self-expression, I didn't feel the need to waste spend any more time on that. My job should pay me as much as possible with the least amount of effort on my part (given the three points listed above).

Not surprisingly, this list pointed to the world of IT.

As a bonus, I had also decided I didn't want a long commute, and was always able to bike to my jobs.

Happily retired June 2018, after 26 years of work.


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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2018, 11:29:40 AM »
Fell into being a CFO of a small company that is now a mid-sized company. I got my CPA afterwards. It's a joke in accounting that the best way to become a CFO is to "Be Lucky." For me, that was certainly the case.

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2018, 01:51:14 PM »
I have a good paying job with great benefits and awesome coworkers but I'm a "the grass is always greener" kind of guy and feel like I am missing out on some dream job out there that is perfect for me.  I ended up in my career because it was the same thing my father and grandfather did.  I used to love it but am growing bored.

I have the opportunity in a couple years to cut ties with my job with a decent level of financial independence but I can't, for the life of me, figure out what I would like to do next.  I don't want to be tied to a specific location or schedule so that rules out just about everything that is not self-guided, which I'm terrible at.  I just ordered "What Color is Your Parachute" and am hoping it will give me a starting point. 

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2018, 08:17:03 PM »
I was always into plants and animals growing up. Although my dad has an M.A., he opted for blue collar work, and no on my mom's side has a 4-year degree, so I didn't have much in the way of guidance or role models for professional careers. When I first entered college, I thought I'd aim for law because I figured it would earn enough money to have horses.  First college was too urban for me, so I transferred to a state land-grant U and cast around in the liberal arts college for a while, then declared as an animal sciences major.  After about a year of that, I realized that pretty much anything involving horses would pay nothing, and the other things I could do with that degree were unappealing (having neither the grades or the inclination to go to vet school).  Around this time my parents gave me a deadline for finishing school under their financial support.  I thought I'd like to do some thing more related to ecology or botany, so combing through the course catalog, I found a major that took me in that direction while allowing me to use my animal science credits.  That is how I ended up with a B.S. in rangeland management.  I then found an assistantship in the same program at another land grant U, picked up an M.S., and started working for the Federal government in land management. 

My first few jobs were OK - I got to spend some time outside, work with interesting people, and learned a lot.  However, there was a lot of time just grinding out long, repetitive documents and dealing with clerical work. I feel like dumb luck - or being in the right place at the right time - got me into my current position as a technical specialist.  I still get a little bit of outdoor time, have quite a bit of autonomy, and work on a lot of interesting problems.

It's funny because my Meyers-Briggs type is INTJ "the architect" and when I was a kid, I was fascinated with architecture (the only 7 year old checking architecture books out of the library).  I feel like my job now is something like that of an architect.  Figuring out how to put together resources, people, tools and science to reach an end goal, although it's a type of architecture I never could have imagined as a child or a college student.


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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2018, 08:22:33 PM »
Wow, thank you everyone for your responses. A lot of really insightful posts and things to ponder. Someone posted asking what I really liked when I was growing up, and honestly the only thing was reading. I was reading constantly, at least 5 hours a day for most of my childhood. I started competitive sports when I was about 10, and though I was a really natural athlete, I never really lost my introverted book loving side that liked to be indoors reading in a quiet corner. Aside from being a librarian, I can't really imagine where loving to read will get me in a career.

@Gyosho a lot of what you posted really resonates with me. I am tired of being poor, although I feel I work super hard (too hard) for what I'm paid, I mostly just want a more secure, stable job, that pays better, and is challenging but doesn't leave me fried at the end of the week.  If I wasn't terrible with tech and computers, I feel like I'd like a job in IT, I have many friends in that industry.

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2018, 08:38:44 PM »
Nobody knows what they want to do until they do it. And even then, I guarantee most people will tell you they still don't know what to do. It's possible to be happy with what you're doing and still not know what you want to do.

Anytime I need a change in my life I find it's better to start with what I DON'T want. I think process of elimination will actually lead you to where you want to be.

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2019, 01:44:07 AM »
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You can badmouth the Federal government all you want (and I do), but they hired me when no one else would.

I went into the federal government when my college friends were opting for much higher paying jobs in industry.  On average they seemed to be working much longer, more stressful days only to periodically lose their jobs as a company's needs shifted.  But more importantly to me, their careers were about making the sale, while mine was about making a difference.

Most of them are still working while I've since retired.  Many of them are much wealthier than I am.  Many others are not.  I have no regrets.

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2019, 08:53:09 AM »
I fell into recruiting at 40 when we relocated to a beach town and I needed a job, prior to that we lived in a resort town and were self employed.  In 2009, it was the only job offer I received and although it was 100% commission, I took it anyway.  Did ok even though I only worked mommy hours (DD was in 3rd grade) because I truly did not mind cold calling.  Two years later lucked into a salaried job with a consulting company.  Seven years, multiple layoffs and acquisitions later, I'm managing the recruiting team and my income has increased about 250% since 2009.  I wouldn't say that recruiting is stable (lots of companies like to blame recruiting for their problems and there are a lot of crap recruiters out there), but depending on the industry (pharma, consulting, life sciences, tech) it can be well paid, most experienced recruiters I know make $90k to $115k and work remotely.  And if you are good, you can always find work.  It's also really not hard to be a good recruiter - a modicum of organization, good communication skills and treating candidates how you would want to be treated is about it.
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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2019, 09:30:25 AM »
Wow, thank you everyone for your responses. A lot of really insightful posts and things to ponder. Someone posted asking what I really liked when I was growing up, and honestly the only thing was reading. I was reading constantly, at least 5 hours a day for most of my childhood. I started competitive sports when I was about 10, and though I was a really natural athlete, I never really lost my introverted book loving side that liked to be indoors reading in a quiet corner. Aside from being a librarian, I can't really imagine where loving to read will get me in a career.

Actually, I think ability to focus and work independently lends you to a variety of work.  I'm thinking something such as legal research or anything else requiring diving into records or literature, compiling information, etc. could fit.

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2019, 09:51:10 AM »
After high school, I had two criteria that had to met with whatever career I pursued:
1. Absolutely could not wear a suit to work everyday.
2. Had to be something that got me outside a fair amount.
The only subjects that interested me in school were math so I chose Civil Engineering. Well into my career now and I feel kind of lucky that it has worked out so well.
Good luck to you!

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2019, 07:34:06 PM »
I knew as far back as high school that vocational work would probably be a good fit for me. My parents had other ideas. In the end I went to the Navy as  a means to chart my own course which was important to me at that time. Six years later I left with some good training and the GI Bill - and a variety of work experiences. Put myself through engineering school while working a variety of part time and later full time jobs.

Kept my eyes open and found the job I have today which suits me well.

- not living in a big city, comfortable commute that can be done by bicycle
- dress code is relaxed b/c some days I get dirty, and in the summer hot so shorts are allowed, I can grow my hair anyway I like
- plenty of autonomy
- they value my opinions enough
- variety of tasks and skills
- good balance between engineering and trade skills aka I do CAD/CNC/welding/carpentry/mechanics/etc
- only need to travel overnight perhaps three times a year, the handful of other trips are day trips.
- good balance between my introverted self and extroverted job responsibilities - I manage my personality better these days anyhow
- good pay and benefits, sick leave, some schedule flex.
- roughly a month off in total

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2019, 08:47:52 PM »
I picked engineering because I liked math and science and it paid better than a lot of other options.  I also liked language, English, and history.

This!   My first love out of high school was history, and what I wanted to study what Psychology, but that would have taken at least 8 years.   And not paid overly great for many grads.  and I was so DONE with school and not having money, anyway.  WTF.

I did like physics in highschool and was always good at math.   Engineering paid a lot more. Even so, I only chose it over a business degree (which I assumed would also pay quite a bit) because:

1)  they offered more / better scholarships, tuition would be less.
2)  Could get a well paid job after only 4 years of school.  SCORE!
3) I like problem solving.

Honestly, I went into engineering thinking that I would work at it for 15-20 years, total.   

I managed to get out after 25 years and am FIRED now, and looking for how to do a completely brand new field of my choosing this time, where money does not matter. 

I did like the problem solving part, and managed to eventually design a career path with lots of variety, which i need.  But engineering is not where I want to die.

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2019, 05:20:32 AM »
Originally I wanted to get into electrical engineering but a burned out physics teacher in the last half of high school punched my capabilities and understanding of the subject in the gut. I didn't feel comfortable going into University on a physics related track since I already had trouble enough keeping up with high school level material. So I went to my second choice of Computer Science, I always loved to tinker with computer software, it's honestly been a good fit as I really love what I'm doing now and the things I've learned.

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Re: How did you know what you wanted to do?
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2019, 05:51:44 AM »
I rolled into my job.

When I was young and had to choose a study, I wanted to become a manager of some sort. I did a general education in management, government and that sort. Did finish it though, so I don't have a formal paper.
I started working via a temp office, just doing any kind of office work that would pay the bills. I ended up on the helpdesk of a software company. After a while they hired a bunch of young programmers and were going to train them in the specific programming /database language. I was asked if I wanted to join them. After that I went to work as a programmer in that company.
Some time later I decided to emigrate to another country and found another job, using that programming language. Changed jobs within 2 years, but still same kind of job. I worked in that company for many years. When we switched to using a new programming language, new database, and started to design the whole application from scratch, I focussed on becoming a designer. Later a test manager. I also did some formal courses for test manager, paid for by my boss. Two jobs later, I am still a test manager.

My job is okay and makes a decent income for someone without formal school papers. It depends a lot of the company you work in. But there is always a lot of BS involved, like unrealistic release dates for software. Testing is also not taken seriously in every company (like in Telecom). So I chose to work with a safety critical system, where testing is important.
When that is said, I can't wait to FIRE. I have even started to work 80% to be able to enjoy some freedom already.

 

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