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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #200 on: November 08, 2021, 02:02:02 PM »
I ran my half marathon yesterday.  I swear my last.  HR average was 173, ugh, but I didn't die?  (I'm 51.)
And congrats!

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #201 on: November 08, 2021, 02:10:56 PM »
I ran my half marathon yesterday.  I swear my last.  HR average was 173, ugh, but I didn't die?  (I'm 51.)
I知 still learning when it comes to HRs but that seems high?!

The highest HRs that I致e recorded over the last 12 months were all in the low 190s but now I have a hard time getting above 185 in the cooler weather.

I ran a 10k time trial last weekend, giving it all I had, and finished with an average HR of 169. I知 36.

Do you have an abnormally high max HR for your age or are you just really good at pushing yourself?
I dug a bit further and found a 5k from September where I averaged 180.

I guess what I知 trying to say is that it sounds like you put in a solid effort. Have some kudos from this internet stranger.

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #202 on: November 09, 2021, 04:46:26 AM »
Put in a ten miler yesterday, last long run before my half marathon coming up. Felt good, running to the double digits.

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #203 on: November 09, 2021, 07:54:10 AM »
I ran my half marathon yesterday.  I swear my last.  HR average was 173, ugh, but I didn't die?  (I'm 51.)

Congrats!!!

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #204 on: November 09, 2021, 10:17:44 AM »
I ran my half marathon yesterday.  I swear my last.  HR average was 173, ugh, but I didn't die?  (I'm 51.)
I知 still learning when it comes to HRs but that seems high?!

The highest HRs that I致e recorded over the last 12 months were all in the low 190s but now I have a hard time getting above 185 in the cooler weather.

I ran a 10k time trial last weekend, giving it all I had, and finished with an average HR of 169. I知 36.

Do you have an abnormally high max HR for your age or are you just really good at pushing yourself?
Abnormally high heart rate.  I even asked my doc about it a few years ago - when I ran the uphill half with a 4000ft elevation gain, it easily hit 200 that race and had a difficult time getting it below 185.

He said "some people just run high, do you feel like you are going to pass out?"  So...I'd estimate my HR is probably easily 15 bpm high when I run, compared to what it would be for a normal person.  My resting HR is around 65.

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #205 on: November 09, 2021, 11:26:22 AM »
I ran my half marathon yesterday.  I swear my last.  HR average was 173, ugh, but I didn't die?  (I'm 51.)
I知 still learning when it comes to HRs but that seems high?!

The highest HRs that I致e recorded over the last 12 months were all in the low 190s but now I have a hard time getting above 185 in the cooler weather.

I ran a 10k time trial last weekend, giving it all I had, and finished with an average HR of 169. I知 36.

Do you have an abnormally high max HR for your age or are you just really good at pushing yourself?
Abnormally high heart rate.  I even asked my doc about it a few years ago - when I ran the uphill half with a 4000ft elevation gain, it easily hit 200 that race and had a difficult time getting it below 185.

He said "some people just run high, do you feel like you are going to pass out?"  So...I'd estimate my HR is probably easily 15 bpm high when I run, compared to what it would be for a normal person.  My resting HR is around 65.
A half-marathon with 4000 ft of elevation?! Ouch. Was that a road race or a trail race?

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #206 on: November 09, 2021, 12:37:55 PM »
FWIW, I'm nearly the same age as mm1970, and my max heart rate at the end of a mile or 5k that I've run hard can hit 200. Resting heart rate in the forties. I know good runners my age whose heart rate maxes out at about 140. There's plenty of variation between people. That's why all those heart rate based training schedules work in terms of %max, or even min + %(max-min) rather than absolute numbers.         

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #207 on: November 09, 2021, 01:18:23 PM »
FWIW, I'm nearly the same age as mm1970, and my max heart rate at the end of a mile or 5k that I've run hard can hit 200. Resting heart rate in the forties. I know good runners my age whose heart rate maxes out at about 140. There's plenty of variation between people. That's why all those heart rate based training schedules work in terms of %max, or even min + %(max-min) rather than absolute numbers.       
Interesting.

If you ran in your twenties was your HR also abnormally high or is it just the case that your max HR hasn稚 really declined much over the last ~20 years?

(Assuming you ran AND monitored your HR back then.)

I知 new to running and HR data so I have no idea what my HR looked like during physical exertion in my twenties.

I have a 5k ParkRun planned for this weekend and I知 trying for a PB. We値l see how high my average HR ends up.

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« Reply #208 on: November 10, 2021, 01:15:03 AM »
If you ran in your twenties was your HR also abnormally high or is it just the case that your max HR hasn稚 really declined much over the last ~20 years?

(Assuming you ran AND monitored your HR back then.)

I知 new to running and HR data so I have no idea what my HR looked like during physical exertion in my twenties.

I have a 5k ParkRun planned for this weekend and I知 trying for a PB. We値l see how high my average HR ends up.

Don't have heart rate data from back then, but maximum heart rate has certainly fallen by about 10 beats per minute over the past decade, so I assume it was higher.

I didn't run consistently - entered events - trained for some months to do them, then stopped running again. It was only the coming of parkrun that turned me into someone who has run week in week out for over a decade now.

Good luck for Saturday morning.

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #209 on: November 10, 2021, 04:54:29 AM »
Aspired runner - beginner

On Couch to 5k week7, this week is to run for 25 minutes, however I can only jog/fast walk as I am always out of breath

I think might need to retake week7

Goal is to run 30mins by end of this year!

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #210 on: November 10, 2021, 05:57:30 AM »
Aspired runner - beginner

On Couch to 5k week7, this week is to run for 25 minutes, however I can only jog/fast walk as I am always out of breath

I think might need to retake week7

Goal is to run 30mins by end of this year!
Welcome to the club!

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #211 on: November 10, 2021, 07:15:14 AM »
Yes, welcome @Jacinle

If you are struggling with a certain level, it is perfectly normal to go back and repeat a prior week. There is no one size fits all approach and I think you'll find over time that programs like that are good to give some structure, but you always need to listen to your body. If it tells you you're doing too much, too soon...then don't hesitate to go back and do a week over or take an additional rest day every now and then. Best of luck on your 30 min goal!

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #212 on: November 10, 2021, 10:32:00 AM »
I ran my half marathon yesterday.  I swear my last.  HR average was 173, ugh, but I didn't die?  (I'm 51.)
I知 still learning when it comes to HRs but that seems high?!

The highest HRs that I致e recorded over the last 12 months were all in the low 190s but now I have a hard time getting above 185 in the cooler weather.

I ran a 10k time trial last weekend, giving it all I had, and finished with an average HR of 169. I知 36.

Do you have an abnormally high max HR for your age or are you just really good at pushing yourself?
Abnormally high heart rate.  I even asked my doc about it a few years ago - when I ran the uphill half with a 4000ft elevation gain, it easily hit 200 that race and had a difficult time getting it below 185.

He said "some people just run high, do you feel like you are going to pass out?"  So...I'd estimate my HR is probably easily 15 bpm high when I run, compared to what it would be for a normal person.  My resting HR is around 65.
A half-marathon with 4000 ft of elevation?! Ouch. Was that a road race or a trail race?

Road race.  Called "Pier to Peak".  Fun times.

I also have no idea what my HR was in my 20s, because I'm old.  I ran back then (I was in the Navy, so had no choice).

I used to wear a HR monitor in my 30s and 40s during spin class, particularly when pregnant.  But I have no memory of what my HR was...just that I was trying to keep it below a certain number. 

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #213 on: November 13, 2021, 10:15:31 AM »
I ran my half marathon yesterday.  I swear my last.  HR average was 173, ugh, but I didn't die?  (I'm 51.)
I知 still learning when it comes to HRs but that seems high?!

The highest HRs that I致e recorded over the last 12 months were all in the low 190s but now I have a hard time getting above 185 in the cooler weather.

I ran a 10k time trial last weekend, giving it all I had, and finished with an average HR of 169. I知 36.

Do you have an abnormally high max HR for your age or are you just really good at pushing yourself?
Abnormally high heart rate.  I even asked my doc about it a few years ago - when I ran the uphill half with a 4000ft elevation gain, it easily hit 200 that race and had a difficult time getting it below 185.

He said "some people just run high, do you feel like you are going to pass out?"  So...I'd estimate my HR is probably easily 15 bpm high when I run, compared to what it would be for a normal person.  My resting HR is around 65.
A half-marathon with 4000 ft of elevation?! Ouch. Was that a road race or a trail race?

Road race.  Called "Pier to Peak".  Fun times.

I also have no idea what my HR was in my 20s, because I'm old.  I ran back then (I was in the Navy, so had no choice).

I used to wear a HR monitor in my 30s and 40s during spin class, particularly when pregnant.  But I have no memory of what my HR was...just that I was trying to keep it below a certain number.

That looks like a really interesting, and challenging, race. I'm guessing there aren't a lot of PBs set on that course.

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #214 on: November 13, 2021, 10:23:48 AM »
FWIW, I'm nearly the same age as mm1970, and my max heart rate at the end of a mile or 5k that I've run hard can hit 200. Resting heart rate in the forties. I know good runners my age whose heart rate maxes out at about 140. There's plenty of variation between people. That's why all those heart rate based training schedules work in terms of %max, or even min + %(max-min) rather than absolute numbers.       
Interesting.

If you ran in your twenties was your HR also abnormally high or is it just the case that your max HR hasn稚 really declined much over the last ~20 years?

(Assuming you ran AND monitored your HR back then.)

I知 new to running and HR data so I have no idea what my HR looked like during physical exertion in my twenties.

I have a 5k ParkRun planned for this weekend and I知 trying for a PB. We値l see how high my average HR ends up.

ParkRun went well. I set a new PB and managed to finish under the arbitrary time that I had set for myself.

When I ran this parkrun two months ago I finished 90 seconds slower with an average HR of 180 (max of 188). This morning my average HR was 170 (max of 183). I think the difference in HR was largely due to cooler temps as the effort level felt the same - it was 10 ーC cooler today.

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #215 on: November 13, 2021, 12:56:22 PM »
Terrible 2021 for me. Stopped running over the winter when it got really cold in NY, and haven't ran in almost three months now.

Keep procrastinating that firsts mile back. How do you motivate yourselves after a prolonged hiatus?

Well it took me another 5+ months after posting this to finally get the cobwebs off the ol' running shoes......but finally built back up to being able to run 5-7 miles at a clip without feeling like death. On track for ~34-40 miles for November.

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« Reply #216 on: November 15, 2021, 10:06:54 AM »
Ahhhhhhh.  Streak of bright blue skies and lovely cool running weather. 

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #217 on: November 15, 2021, 06:37:22 PM »
Ahhhhhhh.  Streak of bright blue skies and lovely cool running weather.

Yeah, that really helps, right? We致e had very stiff winds lately until today. 43F with low winds.I can live with that. And bone dry. Now just hold that until spring.

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« Reply #218 on: November 22, 2021, 08:54:42 PM »
I just ran my 13th half marathon. I致e been training consistently since March 2020. The thing that is depressing is I used to roll out of bed hungover in my 30s and blow past the times I post now. It seems so unfair to work harder and make less progress! I read somewhere to look at PBS by decade. Anyone else feel like this? I know it痴 normal but it痴 frustrating.

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #219 on: November 22, 2021, 08:57:34 PM »
Ran a solid half this weekend in the city by my home. Cold, but invigorating!

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« Reply #220 on: November 23, 2021, 05:06:55 AM »
Ran a solid half this weekend in the city by my home. Cold, but invigorating!

Philly? I did Philly and loved it. Such a great course and city!

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« Reply #221 on: November 23, 2021, 08:57:34 AM »
Ran my half a little over a week ago and just forgot to report back. Went fairly well, but I had an issue I've never had before...hand swelling. It was cold (around 38 degrees at the start), but I'm not sure if that's what caused the swelling or if it was something else. Really weird. Nice race altogether. Already signed up for my next one in March!

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #222 on: November 23, 2021, 09:44:06 AM »
Congrats to everyone on their recent half-marathons.

I知 thinking about signing up for the Winterman race in Ottawa. It痴 scheduled for February 20th where the average high is -5 ーC and the average low is -15 ーC (23 ーF and 5 ーF respectively).

They have marathon and half-marathon distances but I think I値l stick to the 10k if I end up registering. (It looks like there were 32 Marathon runners in 2020 compared to ~5000 in the Ottawa Marathon. A few even BQ壇.)

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #223 on: November 23, 2021, 01:23:56 PM »
Ran my half a little over a week ago and just forgot to report back. Went fairly well, but I had an issue I've never had before...hand swelling. It was cold (around 38 degrees at the start), but I'm not sure if that's what caused the swelling or if it was something else. Really weird. Nice race altogether. Already signed up for my next one in March!
My hands are the first parts of my body to suffer any effects from cold weather. I see people out running without gloves below 5 ーC and I shudder.

I致e never had swelling though. My hands tend to stiffen up if I let them get too cold for too long.

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« Reply #224 on: November 24, 2021, 06:42:22 AM »
I've been running half marathons for around 12 years and between training and racing, this is the very first time I've ever had any sort of issue like this. I kept thinking that I was just cold...but with sweat running down my face I finally figured out that the stiffness was actually swelling. My wedding ring felt super tight also, but at that point I didn't feel cold...so I wasn't sure if it the swelling was due to the cold or something else, but when I got back to the hotel after and jumped in the shower, the hot water stung my hands, and within an hour or so the swelling was all gone. Just strange all the way around for me, but I'll be sure to pack my running gloves from now on.

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #225 on: November 24, 2021, 07:52:40 PM »
Ran a solid half this weekend in the city by my home. Cold, but invigorating!

Philly? I did Philly and loved it. Such a great course and city!

Yup! It痴 a great course for a PR. Nice and flat!

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« Reply #226 on: November 26, 2021, 07:12:11 PM »
I just ran my 13th half marathon. I致e been training consistently since March 2020. The thing that is depressing is I used to roll out of bed hungover in my 30s and blow past the times I post now. It seems so unfair to work harder and make less progress! I read somewhere to look at PBS by decade. Anyone else feel like this? I know it痴 normal but it痴 frustrating.

Yeah, that痴 a distinct problem.birthdays piling up. Various techniques maybe to decrease how bad it feels. Check the Boston qualifying times. Check age group winners for various races. Plot things up and scale your results and expectations. Focus also on striving to have a perfect race. Hit your target splits, great hydration and nutrition.

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #227 on: November 27, 2021, 10:42:57 AM »
I just ran my 13th half marathon. I致e been training consistently since March 2020. The thing that is depressing is I used to roll out of bed hungover in my 30s and blow past the times I post now. It seems so unfair to work harder and make less progress! I read somewhere to look at PBS by decade. Anyone else feel like this? I know it痴 normal but it痴 frustrating.

Yeah, that痴 a distinct problem.birthdays piling up. Various techniques maybe to decrease how bad it feels. Check the Boston qualifying times. Check age group winners for various races. Plot things up and scale your results and expectations. Focus also on striving to have a perfect race. Hit your target splits, great hydration and nutrition.
Parkrun offers age-graded results which help give you an idea of how you compare to other age brackets. There are probably calculators online you can use to perform the same calculation.

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« Reply #228 on: November 28, 2021, 07:15:31 AM »
Been a while since I updated, but I passed over 1,000 miles a month or so ago.  This is just insanity for me - since I致e never been a runner in my life.  I want to scream it from the rooftops because I知 proud, but also not many ways to bring it up without sounding like a huge brag.

But have transitioned my training away from running as much and more towards hiking. (On trail with a loaded pack).

I may still try to run a marathon after work one day - no official race.  Just go knock one out.

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Re: Run for your lives! The 2021 runners thread
« Reply #229 on: November 28, 2021, 07:36:33 AM »
Been a while since I updated, but I passed over 1,000 miles a month or so ago.  This is just insanity for me - since I致e never been a runner in my life.  I want to scream it from the rooftops because I知 proud, but also not many ways to bring it up without sounding like a huge brag.

But have transitioned my training away from running as much and more towards hiking. (On trail with a loaded pack).

I may still try to run a marathon after work one day - no official race.  Just go knock one out.

That's awesome, congratulations! There's something really satisfying about nice round milestone numbers.

I've gone out with a local trail running group a few times. It's a very different experience from running around in the city - very soothing for the soul.