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« Reply #450 on: January 15, 2020, 10:31:54 AM »
When I drink I definitely notice effects on my sleep. I wake up, toss and turn, and I feel less rested in the morning. Two weeks into dry January now and I'm feeling really good. No temptations really, other than an event where some of my teammates tried to get me to drink. I had to say no a few times, but I was pretty comfortable with it and I think I was able to make them understand why I don't want to give in. Last year I made a few exceptions for special events in January, but by the end of the month it didn't even really feel like I had given up drinking. My dry month in August was much better, I made no drinking exceptions. I'm going to approach the next decision though: do I stop a week early because I'm going on vacation, or do I have a dry vacation? Thoughts are welcome.

Depends.
Do you want to be able to enjoy vacations without alcohol?

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« Reply #451 on: January 15, 2020, 11:20:26 AM »
My SO went from drinking fairly heavily to stopping cold-turkey in October. Iíve been dry since then, too, in support. He has no desire to drink again, so I guess we are both dry until further notice.

I didnít drink much prior, but Iím happy to have it out of my life, honestly. It took my dad in his early 50s and both sides of my family have a significant history of alcoholism.

Plus, our dates are *so* much cheaper now.

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« Reply #452 on: January 15, 2020, 11:52:15 AM »
I'm finding this Drynuary much easier than last year's, but I am allowing myself to eat more sugar. I have a pot of decaf tea right when I would normally start drinking wine and it's a good replacement. I do sleep more soundly but I was really hoping for better dream recall, which hasn't happened - if anything recall is worse. And still have had a couple of insomnia nights so it's not a cure-all. But as a reset it's so helpful. I'm thinking maybe I'll do Dry July at some point too, as for me the reset seemed to wear off about halfway last year. Great to hear from everyone on this thread!

For me a no-sugar month would probably be even harder/better. Some day.

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« Reply #453 on: January 15, 2020, 02:38:11 PM »
@PoutineLover I would try a dry vacation, heck I had a dry honeymoon in Hawaii and it was fun to see what delicious non-alcoholic drinks bartenders would make.

I am about to do my second dry family reunion, something I never thought I could do. It's easier to enjoy it now the old scripts are less likely to be triggered.

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« Reply #454 on: January 15, 2020, 02:59:47 PM »
Haven't drank since January 2nd, had a few moments when I tried to make an excuse to myself just to have a few pints. As usual, the hardest part is social and my friends are mostly not drinkers, I am the one that enjoys kicking back a few every Thursday that we meet up. I have a goal set to late April, if I fail, it will cost me money since there is a 3 way bet going.

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« Reply #455 on: January 15, 2020, 03:38:39 PM »
I'm posting to follow.

I am on the fence as this is something I would love to try, but so much of my social life involves drinking - going out for dinner and sharing wine, or going over to someone's house and bringing some nice wine to share. Also my husband and I really enjoy opening a bottle of wine on weekends and finishing it off in one night.

However, it's starting to affect my sleep as I get older. I notice that after drinking just one glass of wine in the evening, I wake up in the middle of the night and toss and turn for a while.

I just ordered The Naked Mind from the library. I think I'm looking for more motivation to take a break from alcohol. I have a really stressful job so it does help me unwind, however I'm looking into meditation as well, and I think developing a meditation practice and calming the mind that way might be a healthier unwinding tool.

Hope you don't mind a fence-sitter joining the group. I appreciate the book advice and maybe I'll be further inspired by your journeys here.

I was absolutely a fence-sitter when I first started reading this thread (which I incorrectly assumed was going to be full of judgemental tee-totalers), and I spent a couple weeks as a fence-sitter, drinking mindfully and absorbing some of Annie Grace's material and that of other websites/podcasts...and by the end of it, I WANTED to try it.  I think it's actually helpful to really pay attention to your drinking just before you start, or in the first couple days of the experiment.

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« Reply #456 on: January 15, 2020, 08:02:16 PM »
When I drink I definitely notice effects on my sleep. I wake up, toss and turn, and I feel less rested in the morning. Two weeks into dry January now and I'm feeling really good. No temptations really, other than an event where some of my teammates tried to get me to drink. I had to say no a few times, but I was pretty comfortable with it and I think I was able to make them understand why I don't want to give in. Last year I made a few exceptions for special events in January, but by the end of the month it didn't even really feel like I had given up drinking. My dry month in August was much better, I made no drinking exceptions. I'm going to approach the next decision though: do I stop a week early because I'm going on vacation, or do I have a dry vacation? Thoughts are welcome.

Well, you say that you aren't drinking now and you feel really good, and you are sleeping well and wake rested in the mornings.  So, why not continue that good feeling into your vacation?

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« Reply #457 on: January 16, 2020, 03:29:17 AM »
RE Drinking or not on vacation,  whatever you do please  don't be miserable and white knuckle it your entire vacation.  I would maybe be sober first few days and if you want to then do indulge the last few days.  Plan on  another 30 days in February.  I feel like you need the right attitude like some  one said sober curious.  I wanted to try life without alcohol.  I also feel 30 days is not enough time to change habits around drinking.  Although the energy boost was real and I felt that early. I actually felt best at around the 3 months mark. 

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« Reply #458 on: January 16, 2020, 05:47:04 AM »
RE Drinking or not on vacation,  whatever you do please  don't be miserable and white knuckle it your entire vacation.  I would maybe be sober first few days and if you want to then do indulge the last few days.  Plan on  another 30 days in February.  I feel like you need the right attitude like some  one said sober curious.  I wanted to try life without alcohol.  I also feel 30 days is not enough time to change habits around drinking.  Although the energy boost was real and I felt that early. I actually felt best at around the 3 months mark.

I think if PP wants to try an alcohol free vacation, then some prep with This Naked Mind, Allen Carr's book and/or The Alcohol Experiment 30 day challenge would be a good idea.

Trying to white knuckle it would be a terrible idea.

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« Reply #459 on: January 16, 2020, 06:17:59 AM »
Thanks for all the perspectives. I would like to read the book first, unfortunately my library doesn't have it though. I already did the thirty day challenge for my last sober month.
I'm not so concerned about white knuckling it or not enjoying it because I'm dry. I'm going to be the only driver, so I wouldn't be drinking all the much anyway. It's mostly that a big part of traveling for me is trying local food and drink, and often alcohol is a good part of that.
Right now I'm thinking a good compromise would be to allow drinks, but only stuff I can't get in Canada (and only in moderation and when I'm not driving obviously). And then when I come back, extend to dry February. The month of dryness itself is arbitrary, and I'm not planning on quitting completely yet. It seems silly to make myself miss out on interesting new drinks only to go back to the same old stuff right after I get back.

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« Reply #460 on: January 16, 2020, 06:34:29 AM »
If you've already done Annie Grace's 30 day alcohol experiment, then consider Allen Carr's book.

I find that Annie's content is largely based on Allen's book, but his style is very different.

Or did you mean that you've just already done 30 days sober, not The Alcohol Experiment 30 days?

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« Reply #461 on: January 16, 2020, 06:45:11 AM »
I have almost reduced my alcohol consumption to zero - not quite.  I am coping with PTSD symptoms that were diagnosed in May 2019.  Having a drink seems to make the symptoms worse. I am finding the cultural aspects of partaking challenging.  Last time I wasn't drinking, I was pregnant and that is so easy for everyone to accept.

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« Reply #462 on: January 16, 2020, 08:04:48 AM »
If you've already done Annie Grace's 30 day alcohol experiment, then consider Allen Carr's book.

I find that Annie's content is largely based on Allen's book, but his style is very different.

Or did you mean that you've just already done 30 days sober, not The Alcohol Experiment 30 days?
I did the alcohol experiment, and skimmed most of the emails. Reviewing it now, I realize that I never did the journal questions and I didn't always read deeply, because I figured I was doing fine saying no on my own. Going through it now, I think doing the work might help me actually challenge the baseline assumptions I have instead of just checking off days. After that, maybe I'll buy the book.
I almost wish I was pregnant just so I'd have an easy reason that people wouldn't challenge. It's sort of irritating to hear stuff like "oh, are you still doing that? Just take one cheat day" or "if you don't have an alcohol problem then you don't need to stop" or people asking me if I'm pregnant. Drinking culture is so engrained in my friends and family and no one really understands why I might want to stop. I don't even consider myself a really heavy drinker, but having tracked my consumption before I drink about 1/3 days and almost 10 drinks/week on average so the upper limit of guidelines for women. I also find I've been slowly putting on weight and is like to reverse that trend before it gets worse. Physical activity and good nutrition are important too, but there are a lot of wasted calories in booze.

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« Reply #463 on: January 16, 2020, 08:11:37 AM »
Yeah, the program is very much based on CBT and you have to pay attention and do the exercises for that to work properly.

Some people are highly responsive to CBT and others aren't. I find it also depends on how the rest of your life looks as well. If your life is a dumpster fire, a morning email, a 12 minute video, and some journaling probably isn't going to suffice to resolve using alcohol as a self medication.

However, if it's a moderate habit, you are a mentally healthy person, and you are just looking to alter a pattern of behaviour, then it's probably more than enough to get a great result.

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« Reply #464 on: January 16, 2020, 08:44:01 AM »
Re: drinking on vacation, I think the main thing is to make sure you try to go at least some of the time not drinking (so your subconscious can get a sense that you don't require a drink to have a good time).  If you do drink, try to do it as mindfully as you would if you were deep in the 'experiment' phase, and see exactly what you get out of it.  The half dozen or so drinks I've had since doing the AE back in March were nearly all on various trips/vacations, and it was educational.  A couple of them seemed extremely pleasant, others were 'meh'.    Overall, it's nice to know I sure don't have to drink on vacation to make the vacation experience 'complete' and I am sure going forward that I don't want to go through life planning to drink as part of every trip, or looking forward to my next 'cheat day'. 

Whatever you do, don't start guilt-tripping yourself or thinking, "It's too hard to stay AF, so screw it!" If you want to live mostly alcohol free, but find yourself drinking more on vacation that you really wanted to, then simply recommit when you get home, where you have more control over your routine, etc.

Re: doing the AE exercises, I agree that people won't get nearly as much out of that program if you don't do (or try to do) all of them. But I do great with CBT, so I might be biased.   

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« Reply #465 on: January 16, 2020, 08:46:05 AM »
I gave in last weekend and had a few beers out of boredom. Honestly, even though they were Miller Lites I still felt kinda crappy the next day. Part of that could have been the atrocious sleep I got due to some loud animals in the house.

I have been abstaining since and things seem to be going well. I'm not gonna claim that I notice any cognitive or emotional improvements. I'm just doing the same things after work I normally would, but drinking water instead.

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« Reply #466 on: January 18, 2020, 10:57:10 AM »
So, y'know how I said that I really felt like I was missing out by starting the experiment after I had already quit? Well, I purposefully drank two nights ago as an experiment.

Annie and Allen both hammer home over and over again that alcohol tastes bad and getting drunk actually feels awful, but my memories just wouldn't support that. So despite having no cravings and no desire to drink, I opened a bottle of wine and observed it objectively.

Well...that was eye opening. Yikes.
Wine is disgusting.
It literally smells and tastes like gasoline, probably because it has basically gasoline in it. It wasn't until the third glass that my senses went numb enough for it to stop making me shudder with each gulp from the gas pump.

Remember how I said previously that I loved wine but didn't think I had an alcohol habit because I won't touch other booze? Yeah, turns out it's that I *did* have an alcohol habit, but wine was the only form that I had ever had the discipline to acquire a taste for. *Hellllo late teens wine coolers!*

Now that I don't want it, it tastes just like gin, vodka, whisky, etc, all of the other ethanol based drinks that I can barely choke down without making a face. I declared in my mid 20s "I'm over pretending to like whiskey, I don't care what anyone thinks about the fact that I fucking hate whiskey"

Just like Annie described in her drinking experiment, while drinking, I did nothing of any real interest. I worked on some mindless tasks that needed to be done but were neither challenging nor rewarding or interesting.

Wow, getting drunk was awful. I mean, really awful. I thought I liked that early, light buzz feeling, but it turns out that without the craving to relieve, it just feels like my head getting heavy and my balance being messed up.

Oh, and once DH got home, I became super self conscious about the fact that I sounded like a damn moron every time I spoke. I was just into my second glass at that point.

I drank a total of 500ml of wine before I just couldn't take it anymore. I was so bored, and eventually gave in and watched some TV. Ironically it was an episode of Big Love where one of the Mormon sister wives decides to start drinking wine and I kept thinking "oh, she's so fucked"

I also kept thinking "that's total BS! There's no way a 50 something woman who has never had any alcohol is going to be able to take her first sip of wine and find it drinkable. Piss off with that nonsense."

I purposely did this the night before work so that I would get the full experience of my next day suffering, and oh man, did I ever. Wow. What an awful way to wake up. Yesterday at work was like moving through molasses with rocks in my head.

In the end, I'm really glad I did it as now both my conscious and sub conscious mind are 100% bought in to the notion that it tastes awful and does nothing for me. I can comfortably tuck all of those drinking memories of the past few decades away as misrepresentations of reality that serve no purpose for future decision making.

Less than 3 weeks ago, I firmly believed that a full bodied red wine was the most refined, aromatic, and enjoyable flavour in the world, to be savoured, valued, and profoundly enjoyed. I come from a family that regularly hires a sommelier to curate the wine served at our parties.

Now it's spoiled grape flavoured gasoline that makes me foggy, stupid, and clumsy.

Talk about a paradigm shift.

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« Reply #467 on: January 18, 2020, 11:18:44 AM »
@Malkynn, thanks for sharing your experience.

I spent the week at a work event where there was a lot of drinking. I abstained and, you know what, it was no big deal at all. I didnít feel awkward or like I was missing out. A few colleagues asked if I was no longer drinking, but other than that it was no big deal. No one pressured me to drink and I never felt like I was missing out on any fun. Iíve enjoyed not having a drinking fog, Iím sleeping better, anxiety has gone down and I feel more energetic.

I havenít specifically said anything about my drinking (or lack thereof) to my DH, although he has seen that Iím reading This Naked Mind. He told me this morning that he hasnít had a drink since the new year began and he hasnít missed it. My own experiment seems to be resulting in positives for both of us.

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« Reply #468 on: January 18, 2020, 11:58:13 AM »
So, y'know how I said that I really felt like I was missing out by starting the experiment after I had already quit? Well, I purposefully drank two nights ago as an experiment.

Annie and Allen both hammer home over and over again that alcohol tastes bad and getting drunk actually feels awful, but my memories just wouldn't support that. So despite having no cravings and no desire to drink, I opened a bottle of wine and observed it objectively.

Well...that was eye opening. Yikes.
Wine is disgusting.
It literally smells and tastes like gasoline, probably because it has basically gasoline in it. It wasn't until the third glass that my senses went numb enough for it to stop making me shudder with each gulp from the gas pump.

Remember how I said previously that I loved wine but didn't think I had an alcohol habit because I won't touch other booze? Yeah, turns out it's that I *did* have an alcohol habit, but wine was the only form that I had ever had the discipline to acquire a taste for. *Hellllo late teens wine coolers!*

Now that I don't want it, it tastes just like gin, vodka, whisky, etc, all of the other ethanol based drinks that I can barely choke down without making a face. I declared in my mid 20s "I'm over pretending to like whiskey, I don't care what anyone thinks about the fact that I fucking hate whiskey"

Just like Annie described in her drinking experiment, while drinking, I did nothing of any real interest. I worked on some mindless tasks that needed to be done but were neither challenging nor rewarding or interesting.

Wow, getting drunk was awful. I mean, really awful. I thought I liked that early, light buzz feeling, but it turns out that without the craving to relieve, it just feels like my head getting heavy and my balance being messed up.

Oh, and once DH got home, I became super self conscious about the fact that I sounded like a damn moron every time I spoke. I was just into my second glass at that point.

I drank a total of 500ml of wine before I just couldn't take it anymore. I was so bored, and eventually gave in and watched some TV. Ironically it was an episode of Big Love where one of the Mormon sister wives decides to start drinking wine and I kept thinking "oh, she's so fucked"

I also kept thinking "that's total BS! There's no way a 50 something woman who has never had any alcohol is going to be able to take her first sip of wine and find it drinkable. Piss off with that nonsense."

I purposely did this the night before work so that I would get the full experience of my next day suffering, and oh man, did I ever. Wow. What an awful way to wake up. Yesterday at work was like moving through molasses with rocks in my head.

In the end, I'm really glad I did it as now both my conscious and sub conscious mind are 100% bought in to the notion that it tastes awful and does nothing for me. I can comfortably tuck all of those drinking memories of the past few decades away as misrepresentations of reality that serve no purpose for future decision making.

Less than 3 weeks ago, I firmly believed that a full bodied red wine was the most refined, aromatic, and enjoyable flavour in the world, to be savoured, valued, and profoundly enjoyed. I come from a family that regularly hires a sommelier to curate the wine served at our parties.

Now it's spoiled grape flavoured gasoline that makes me foggy, stupid, and clumsy.

Talk about a paradigm shift.

Great post.  I know what you mean about becoming super aware of that transition during the second glass of wine; when I pay attention to what I'm feeling and doing, I start wanting to clap my hand over my own mouth about halfway through my second drink LOL.  Ironically, I notice that is also where I start to turn 'internal'...into my own head in a weird way, and don't engage as well with whomever I'm talking to.

However, I must say that the 'alcohol tastes like crap thing' still hasn't struck me, almost a year out.. I still truly enjoy the taste...my small handful of drinks in the past year has included 1 IPA (still delicious), 1 G&T (unbelievably f*ing delicious...this is the flavor I really want to work on replicating without the gin [maybe with herbs and juniper berries] b/c it's so amazing), red wine (still love the taste), and imported Irish whiskey (delicious and smells fantastic...so fantastic that I actually make my husband drink his whiskey at least several feet away from me at all times). 

Alas, I doubt taste is ever going to keep me away!  That's ok, though...lots of other reasons not to drink.

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« Reply #469 on: January 18, 2020, 12:54:44 PM »
I had a slightly similar version of Malkynn's experiment but with Naltrexone. Turns out that with the buzz blocked from hitting your pleasure receptors, you can actually taste what you are drinking and wine tastes not great. I ended up asking Ofpym if the wine was spoiled (it wasn't) and stopped before finishing my first glass.

I sometimes drink 3/4 of a NA beer and enjoy it, but generally if I am looking for the IPA bite I'll have grapefruit juice in soda water. If I want something that feels fancy, I'll have one of the Italian NA aperitifs. A company in Melbourne makes NA spirits for the G&T yearners.

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« Reply #470 on: January 18, 2020, 04:32:43 PM »
So, I'm on day 4 of the Alcohol Experiment.

I haven't had a drink though in over a week - maybe 8 or 9 days ago. It was a glass of red wine at home at the end of a tough day.

So far I can't say I've had any cravings. But what's been going through my head has been figuring out what to do about future social events. This coming Tuesday I have plans to go out with friends for dinner and drinks and this makes me worry. I still haven't decided what to do - whether to abstain or just try it out. I suppose this would be a good time for the testing to begin: thinking about how I feel before, during, and after the first drink.

I've also been thinking - I just love the taste of wine! So your post above was interesting, Malkynn. We'll see if my taste preferences remain true by the end of the 30 days.

Other observations so far - I have had a couple of terrible sleeps the past couple of nights. Waking up in the middle of the night and not being able to fall back asleep for hours, tossing and turning with racing thoughts and worries (mostly about nothing.) This is the type of thing that happens when I DO drink. So I don't really understand why it's happening now. Could this be part of the process of alcohol leaving my system, since it takes ~ 10 days? Or coincidence?

I am curious how it all goes down. I don't feel like I have a physical dependency (though could be fooling myself.) Mostly for me it is psychological. It seems like I drink to a) socialize and have fun and b) to relax after a stressful day and c) as entertainment / bonding with my hubby, who is very interested in wines and regions and all that stuff. So my worries and fears relate to those 3 major triggers.

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« Reply #471 on: January 18, 2020, 04:48:25 PM »
Donuts, if you haven't done a social event sober, then it's a really good idea just to try it. It won't hurt you and you will learn a lot more by not drinking than by drinking. You already know what socializing is like with alcohol.

In my first week I had a few alcohol intense events and I had some stress leading up to them, but getting through them easily took all of the pressure off of anticipating future alcohol filled events. It really is a non issue most people just won't care.

Also, the experiment I did was to specifically drink while not doing anything even remotely fun, so that I could observe what the effect of the alcohol alone was. I cracked and watched TV eventually because I was so painfully bored and miserable. The point was to observe without distraction. I could not have done that experiment socializing with friends.

The reasons I did what I did was because I had already pretty much decided I didn't want to drink ever again. I wasn't testing my limits, I was putting the last nail into the coffin.

I'm quite positive that if I still had some subconscious urge to drink, that wine still would have tasted good. It's not hard to lose an acquired taste, but it's also pretty easy to hold on to.

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« Reply #472 on: January 18, 2020, 05:00:21 PM »
You're right - it would be better to do that wine test at home in a quiet setting where I can really focus internally.

I'm also starting a meditation program right now so the whole idea of cognitive dissonance and working through internal conflicts is very interesting. It's just part of being human! So this is a good testing ground for ALL of it, as it relates to so many things in life.

And I like the gentle / non-judgmental approach. It's all about getting curious about how the mind works vs cycling through having willpower or not.

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I'm quite positive that if I still had some subconscious urge to drink, that wine still would have tasted good.

That is a really cool litmus test for the subconscious!

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« Reply #473 on: January 18, 2020, 06:43:17 PM »
I am not sure when I posted that I was giving up the Hooch. And I can say life is so much better without it. I have shrunk out of my leggings. I sleep so much better. I am enjoying sex again, I can handle my 9 year old and her banter. I have been trying to lose weight for a long time. I also have changed my workouts to much more yoga, walking and pilates and holly hell I am so much more calm.

I also found a podcast that was very eye opening to me. It lists a basic 75 day challenge. 1 45 minute workout outside, 1 45 additional workout, follow a diet plan you plan for yourself,  1 gallon of water, a progress picture, and reading 10 pages in a book that you learn something.

Something about this really spoke to me. I will link the podcast. It is not the most pc one out there and if you can get through the noise the message is pretty amazing. This might help someone.
 https://andyfrisella.com/blogs/mfceo-project-podcast/75hard-a-75-day-tactical-guide-to-winning-the-war-with-yourself-with-andy-frisella-mfceo291

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« Reply #474 on: January 18, 2020, 08:09:43 PM »
I quit drinking in April 2016.

I can't say life has changed all that much. More cash in my pocket I suppose. And I did used to think alcohol equated to being social and that's entirely untrue. I can go out with other people who are drunk and have a good time. I doubt I'd want to clubbing though. Then again I'm past that age being in my early 30s anyhow. I'm not 21 anymore haha!

I didn't have a problem with booze. I quit originally as I flew to Thailand for a fitness holiday and figured if I'm going to do this I';ll do it right so no booze. And I just never went back to the booze. Now an again I get a thought of a beer or something else would be really go right about now. But that's really it. Nothing more.

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Re: Give Up the Hooch: Booze Free for as long as you please!
« Reply #475 on: January 21, 2020, 02:48:00 PM »
I stopped drinking in November 2006 for religious reasons and didn't touch a drop of alcohol again until November 2018.

Ditching organized religion and having the occasional drink again are two of the best decisions I've ever made. Why? Because both decisions make me happy. 

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Re: Give Up the Hooch: Booze Free for as long as you please!
« Reply #476 on: January 22, 2020, 04:36:08 AM »
I stopped drinking in November 2006 for religious reasons and didn't touch a drop of alcohol again until November 2018.

Ditching organized religion and having the occasional drink again are two of the best decisions I've ever made. Why? Because both decisions make me happy.

Um...

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Re: Give Up the Hooch: Booze Free for as long as you please!
« Reply #477 on: January 22, 2020, 05:04:49 AM »
I stopped drinking in November 2006 for religious reasons and didn't touch a drop of alcohol again until November 2018.

Ditching organized religion and having the occasional drink again are two of the best decisions I've ever made. Why? Because both decisions make me happy.

Um...
I thought about umming here too but figured I'd just let it be.

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Re: Give Up the Hooch: Booze Free for as long as you please!
« Reply #478 on: January 22, 2020, 05:10:15 AM »
I stopped drinking in November 2006 for religious reasons and didn't touch a drop of alcohol again until November 2018.

Ditching organized religion and having the occasional drink again are two of the best decisions I've ever made. Why? Because both decisions make me happy.

Um...
I thought about umming here too but figured I'd just let it be.

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Re: Give Up the Hooch: Booze Free for as long as you please!
« Reply #479 on: January 22, 2020, 06:09:11 AM »
I went out for dinner last night with friends and had a mocktail. Nobody asked why I wasn't drinking, everyone else had their glass of wine and it was NBD. I felt no need to make any sort of big pronouncement. Such a relief!

I did feel a little twinge of wanting a glass of wine though. I find I'm drinking more sweet stuff when I go out just as a treat (or distraction!) but I don't usually drink mocktails or juice. So in terms of drinking experience I would rather be drinking wine and I guess I felt a bit bitter about that.

BUT - I am sleeping better now. I've had 2 great sleeps. So far the pluses are outweighing the minuses.

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Re: Give Up the Hooch: Booze Free for as long as you please!
« Reply #480 on: January 22, 2020, 08:39:05 AM »
I stopped drinking in November 2006 for religious reasons and didn't touch a drop of alcohol again until November 2018.

Ditching organized religion and having the occasional drink again are two of the best decisions I've ever made. Why? Because both decisions make me happy.

Um...
I thought about umming here too but figured I'd just let it be.

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Re: Give Up the Hooch: Booze Free for as long as you please!
« Reply #481 on: January 22, 2020, 08:48:20 AM »
I think its been 2 full weeks now not drinking. It wasn't intentional though. I was sick the week before last so having a drink wasn't appealing.

I am also super broke atm and need to ration funds until tax returns. So I literally can't afford it right now.

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Re: Give Up the Hooch: Booze Free for as long as you please!
« Reply #482 on: January 22, 2020, 09:14:46 AM »
I stopped drinking in November 2006 for religious reasons and didn't touch a drop of alcohol again until November 2018.

Ditching organized religion and having the occasional drink again are two of the best decisions I've ever made. Why? Because both decisions make me happy.

Um...
I thought about umming here too but figured I'd just let it be.

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I tried so hard to leave it alone, I really did...

Why the um...

Is there an issue with what I posted?

It's uncool to post about how much you love alcohol in a thread dedicated to people giving it up. 

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Re: Give Up the Hooch: Booze Free for as long as you please!
« Reply #483 on: January 22, 2020, 09:45:09 AM »
I stopped drinking in November 2006 for religious reasons and didn't touch a drop of alcohol again until November 2018.

Ditching organized religion and having the occasional drink again are two of the best decisions I've ever made. Why? Because both decisions make me happy.

Um...
I thought about umming here too but figured I'd just let it be.

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I tried so hard to leave it alone, I really did...

Why the um...

Is there an issue with what I posted?

It's uncool to post about how much you love alcohol in a thread dedicated to people giving it up.

It's certainly an interesting choice.

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Re: Give Up the Hooch: Booze Free for as long as you please!
« Reply #484 on: January 22, 2020, 09:59:24 AM »
I haven't been drinking much alcohol recently -- a beer or glass of wine with dinner about 1-3 times per week on average for most of last year.  But my wife and I kind of fell into a dry-January thing without really intending to.  I've had one beer this month.  There was a stray bottle in the fridge that I was tired of looking at, so I impulsively decided to drink it one evening.  It wasn't very satisfying.

My wife and I have both noticed improved sleep quality this month, and I think it's reasonable to attribute some of that to not having any alcohol in the evenings.  The other big thing is that not buying a bottle or two of wine while grocery shopping each week (my wife had a near-daily glass of wine) has cut around 10% from our grocery bill.

We're going out to eat and to a concert in a couple weeks, and I do look forward to enjoying a good draft beer (or two) that evening.  But otherwise I think we're both happy not drinking alcohol on a regular basis.

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Re: Give Up the Hooch: Booze Free for as long as you please!
« Reply #485 on: January 22, 2020, 10:20:54 AM »
I stopped drinking in November 2006 for religious reasons and didn't touch a drop of alcohol again until November 2018.

Ditching organized religion and having the occasional drink again are two of the best decisions I've ever made. Why? Because both decisions make me happy.

Um...
I thought about umming here too but figured I'd just let it be.

Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk

I tried so hard to leave it alone, I really did...

Why the um...

Is there an issue with what I posted?

It's uncool to post about how much you love alcohol in a thread dedicated to people giving it up.

It's certainly an interesting choice.

I don't know, y'all. It sounds like this person gave up booze for as long as they pleased. That's the whole name of the thread. Congrats to DrinkCoffeeAndStackMoney for enjoying a healthy relationship with an occasional drink, and congratulations to every one else who is choosing another route!

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Re: Give Up the Hooch: Booze Free for as long as you please!
« Reply #486 on: January 22, 2020, 10:29:38 AM »
I stopped drinking in November 2006 for religious reasons and didn't touch a drop of alcohol again until November 2018.

Ditching organized religion and having the occasional drink again are two of the best decisions I've ever made. Why? Because both decisions make me happy.

Um...
I thought about umming here too but figured I'd just let it be.

Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk

I tried so hard to leave it alone, I really did...

Why the um...

Is there an issue with what I posted?

It's uncool to post about how much you love alcohol in a thread dedicated to people giving it up.

It's certainly an interesting choice.

I don't know, y'all. It sounds like this person gave up booze for as long as they pleased. That's the whole name of the thread. Congrats to DrinkCoffeeAndStackMoney for enjoying a healthy relationship with an occasional drink, and congratulations to every one else who is choosing another route!

JPS,

You got the whole point of my original post, others didn't, which is fine. My post was never intended to offend anyone but maybe it did.
I was just posting my experience with alcohol and my current point of view that the occasional drink brings joy to me and is now looked at as a simple pleasure of my life.

Regardless, good luck to those trying to give up the booze.
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