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« Reply #900 on: July 30, 2015, 04:58:13 PM »
Effing blossom end rot on tomatoes. Losing a lot of fruit to it, and most of my paste tomatoes are a determinate variety. Trying to compensate post-vacation by watering more frequently, but our trip may have come at a really bad time for this crop. Oh well - next year I'll definitely run soakers to the tomato bed and possibly consider an irrigation timer. Tomatoes and cucurbits really seem to be the most moisture sensitive crops in my area. I added calcium when transplanting, so I'm pretty sure moisture is the issue, not calcium, though w/out a soil test it's entirely possible pH or Mg excess is rendering the Ca unavailable.

I am also having blossom end rot issues with my tomatoes.  I knew it could be a watering issue, but was a little surprised because I am using a self-watering system that I "rarely" let go dry.  I did not know about calcium being a possible issue.  I just thought the soil was too light and was drying out in the heat despite the under-pot water source.  My soil is roughly a 60/40 mix of peat moss and compost, intentionally light to facilitate wicking up the water from below.

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« Reply #901 on: July 30, 2015, 06:53:14 PM »
I find BER to just be an annual event with the plum type tomatoes, and the plants just take some time to develop their roots and get over it.

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« Reply #902 on: July 30, 2015, 07:57:02 PM »
Blossom end rot is usually caused by irregular watering.  The plant is not able to take in the calcium from the soil because of the irregular watering.  We are in California drought this summer and we have lots of peppers and tomatoes with blossom end rot as we try to conserve water.  As the plants matures the problem lessens.  Some of the tomatoes can just have the spot cut off and you can still eat them, others got really mushy and rotten.  Ick.

I love the fact that others are growing so much of your food.  I have a home vegetable garden and work in the Master Gardener's demonstration garden also, so get lots of vegetables, berries, fruit and citrus from there too.  I have been vegetable gardenign for 10 years and have really learned what works well in our soil here.  Love reading about others gardens.


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« Reply #903 on: July 30, 2015, 09:12:22 PM »
Tonight's harvest. Particularly pretty, so I'm bragging sharing. Right now all the things are ripe!



I am green with envy - gorgeous!

Tonight we had "zucchini bolognese" with sauce from last year's tomatoes, homegrown onion, garlic, pepper, basil.

Tomorrow our pork chops will be accompanied by homegrown chard, okra, tomatoes and green beans. 

My blacktail watermelon plant has a couple promising-looking melons on it, and the Bloody Butcher corn is a good 8' tall just as advertised in the seed description.

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« Reply #904 on: July 31, 2015, 12:22:37 PM »
Got all the fall and winter crops started over the past few days. That puts me about 4 weeks behind where I should be. July just kinda slipped right past me. I'm hoping our hotter-than-average summer makes up for the late start and I still get some nice growth. Worst comes to worst I'll have a killer early spring garden I guess.

In the meantime, I have a bunch of fully mature pepper plants loaded with peppers that are pretty much falling over because I didn't stake them (seriously, what the hell HAVE I been doing the past month? Oh yeah - this forum.)

Anyway, who's got a great way to tie up peppers that are already big?

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« Reply #905 on: July 31, 2015, 06:41:43 PM »
Got all the fall and winter crops started over the past few days. That puts me about 4 weeks behind where I should be. July just kinda slipped right past me. I'm hoping our hotter-than-average summer makes up for the late start and I still get some nice growth. Worst comes to worst I'll have a killer early spring garden I guess.

In the meantime, I have a bunch of fully mature pepper plants loaded with peppers that are pretty much falling over because I didn't stake them (seriously, what the hell HAVE I been doing the past month? Oh yeah - this forum.)

Anyway, who's got a great way to tie up peppers that are already big?


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« Reply #906 on: August 11, 2015, 09:24:53 AM »
Blossom End Rot

My sister suggested that my soil may be too acidic.  I used a lot of peat moss, >60%, in the mix which if very acidic.  I did add lime to balance it out but may not have added enough.

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« Reply #907 on: August 12, 2015, 02:30:50 AM »
It's been an absolutely dreadfull growing season. Wet, cold and damp with the occational burst of windy just about sums it up. Lost all my peas to lice (never seen that many of the little beasts in one place) and didn't even attempt any sort of cabage. I'm growing on a balcony and I'm still only barely keeping up with pest control of herbs, onions and peppers (and they are all very hardy plants).

Still, harvested first 2 chilies yesterday. Many, many more to come as well as a handfull of large paprika that just needs to turn from green. Really, considering the summer it's been those are doing extremely well.

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« Reply #908 on: August 12, 2015, 05:47:31 AM »
It's been an absolutely dreadfull growing season. Wet, cold and damp with the occational burst of windy just about sums it up.

Last year was like that for me. Tomatoes didn't ripen until September, and even then barely, and lost a ton of stuff to mildew and other fungal diseases.

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« Reply #909 on: August 12, 2015, 06:32:16 AM »
We've had a fairly dry summer so far, down about 3-4 inches of rain under average.  I did not water my tomatoes much and the plants are a bit below par, but still starting to produce.  The b sprouts outgrew their hardware cloth cages and are now just netted; a dozen big plants we will start harvesting in Sept til at least Thanksgiving.

But.  One of my new hens eats pepper plant leaves; this has never happened.  I have about 6 partially denuded plants, peppers still intact, that I will get the hardware cloth cages on today.  Always something...  Going to be over the top peach/plum/pear year though and picking a pint to a quart of raspberries and blueberries every day.  I should do an economic assessment of what we grow like the Chief does.

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« Reply #910 on: August 12, 2015, 01:59:00 PM »
I grew cherry tomatoes for the first time (from a starter plant) and they are delicious! So exciting!

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« Reply #911 on: August 13, 2015, 12:24:34 PM »

Start broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, beets, carrots, parsnip....basically cool season crops. You can do a late planting of bush beans and cucumber too if you want.

Is it too late to start these, Erica?  I'm in Skagit County and a new and not overly organized wannabe gardener with an annoying work travel schedule that interrupts best-laid plans for maximizing garden productivity.  Thanks!   

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« Reply #912 on: August 13, 2015, 11:34:02 PM »
Today we are the one head of lettuce that survived my little boys sandblasting rough watering. It was delicious in our tacos. It's the first time I've grown lettuce from seed (it was romain). Now that I know it grows well here I think I will make it my main crop in my 2ft by 10ft mini garden next year. Wondering if I could plant some romaine seeds now (PNW) that might make it? This thread is SOOOO inspiring for newbie gardeners!

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« Reply #913 on: August 14, 2015, 07:53:40 AM »
Bumper crop of grape and brandywine tomatoes. They are so delicious. I also harvested my first ever cucumber. Hooray!

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« Reply #914 on: August 14, 2015, 08:10:53 AM »
What a great thread! I started my own garden this year and it's just so awesome thus far! Unfortunately it's been ungodly hot over the past few weeks so our plants are doing worse than they would have otherwise. Our peppers (sweet bell and jalapenos) have grown into big plants that flower, but are not producing fruit yet. Our little tomato is okay, but same issue. Basil is doing okay. Curry and lemon thyme are doing okay as well. Oregano dropped all it's leaves, I think I over watered it! Sweet mint and catnip are feeling the heat. Garlic and onion chives are doing okay.

Overall though, it's awesome to grow your own food. You get a real feeling, reading everyone's posts, along with my own experiences, about the real struggle our ancestors must have felt. Only we have the luxury of having a supermarket down the street or so. Brings a new level of appreciation for farmers, that's for sure. I look forward to following along this thread and adding my own posts too.

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« Reply #915 on: August 14, 2015, 10:00:05 AM »
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Start broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, beets, carrots, parsnip....basically cool season crops. You can do a late planting of bush beans and cucumber too if you want.

Is it too late to start these, Erica?  I'm in Skagit County and a new and not overly organized wannabe gardener with an annoying work travel schedule that interrupts best-laid plans for maximizing garden productivity.  Thanks!   

It's really, really tight at this point - like at least a month behind ideal. Honestly, I'm super behind this year and all these things were seeded about 2 weeks ago for my garden. It's worth a shot if you have cheap seed to do the root veg - if our winter is mild you may find these become your early spring harvest, but I would find a good local source for starts on the brassicas at this point.

Lettuce, greens, anything "baby leaf" harvestable, asian coles and fast maturing roots like radish are all fine to go in now.

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« Reply #916 on: August 14, 2015, 07:00:14 PM »
'Maters, precious?


You're growing the same black cherry tomatoes I am. Are yours trying to take over the world, too? Mine are well over eight feet high and setting fruit every five inches or so. Mine seldom make it into the house, though...

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« Reply #917 on: August 14, 2015, 07:10:48 PM »
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You're growing the same black cherry tomatoes I am. Are yours trying to take over the world, too? Mine are well over eight feet high and setting fruit every five inches or so. Mine seldom make it into the house, though...

My garden is an embarrassing mess.  Most of the plants are identifiable as what I planted, but nothing has fruited.  It's really sad.

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« Reply #918 on: August 14, 2015, 07:31:10 PM »
'Maters, precious?


You're growing the same black cherry tomatoes I am. Are yours trying to take over the world, too? Mine are well over eight feet high and setting fruit every five inches or so. Mine seldom make it into the house, though...

My garden is an embarrassing mess.  Most of the plants are identifiable as what I planted, but nothing has fruited.  It's really sad.


Maybe overfertilized if there's no fruiting? On the bright side, that would mean it'll grow bonzo greens for a fall crop.

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« Reply #919 on: August 14, 2015, 07:35:43 PM »
'Maters, precious?


You're growing the same black cherry tomatoes I am. Are yours trying to take over the world, too? Mine are well over eight feet high and setting fruit every five inches or so. Mine seldom make it into the house, though...

My garden is an embarrassing mess.  Most of the plants are identifiable as what I planted, but nothing has fruited.  It's really sad.


Maybe overfertilized if there's no fruiting? On the bright side, that would mean it'll grow bonzo greens for a fall crop.

Last year the plot was downright dead.  I tested the soil, and they told me it was deficient on a couple of uncommon nutrients.  I ordered a 'green manure' for the fall, mostly dikon radishes and such, intended to let rot in place over the winter.  Now it looks like French intensive farming, where the owner just gave up the ghost and let it run.  Probably because that is pretty close to what happened, since I used a square foot method and quit on it about a month ago.

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« Reply #920 on: August 14, 2015, 09:29:52 PM »
'Maters, precious?


You're growing the same black cherry tomatoes I am. Are yours trying to take over the world, too? Mine are well over eight feet high and setting fruit every five inches or so. Mine seldom make it into the house, though...

Yeah more or less they are at the top of a 8 foot remesh panel but starting 18 inches up - so maybe 6 feet?

Delicious tomatoes. We are doing very well this year on tomatoes. For us this is about a month early on ripening. Typically green tomatoes are easier 'round these parts but we got some crazy early summer heat that's made all the difference.

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« Reply #921 on: August 15, 2015, 02:55:25 PM »
What a great thread! I started my own garden this year and it's just so awesome thus far! Unfortunately it's been ungodly hot over the past few weeks so our plants are doing worse than they would have otherwise. Our peppers (sweet bell and jalapenos) have grown into big plants that flower, but are not producing fruit yet. Our little tomato is okay, but same issue. Basil is doing okay. Curry and lemon thyme are doing okay as well. Oregano dropped all it's leaves, I think I over watered it! Sweet mint and catnip are feeling the heat. Garlic and onion chives are doing okay.

Overall though, it's awesome to grow your own food. You get a real feeling, reading everyone's posts, along with my own experiences, about the real struggle our ancestors must have felt. Only we have the luxury of having a supermarket down the street or so. Brings a new level of appreciation for farmers, that's for sure. I look forward to following along this thread and adding my own posts too.

I agree on this thread.  I read but haven't been contributing as my garden was pretty pathetic.  Slowly recovering due to a late start and poor soil.

Oregano thrives on neglect.  It's like a wild plant and can spread like crazy with plenty of sun and no competition.

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« Reply #922 on: August 15, 2015, 09:18:19 PM »
Tonight's harvest porn. Also picked today, not pictured, 6 ears corn, 4 giant figs and a few Asian pears.


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« Reply #923 on: August 16, 2015, 07:59:29 AM »
Nice veggie porn. :)

How do you keep up with dealing with it all? 

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« Reply #924 on: August 16, 2015, 08:48:15 AM »
Starting to see success, my first ever bell pepper is coming in!




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« Reply #925 on: August 16, 2015, 11:35:53 AM »
Nice veggie porn. :)

How do you keep up with dealing with it all?

This year - dehydrator, mostly. I haven't purchased any additional fruit for preserving this year. I typically can about 250-300# of romas I buy in from a local guy, so this isn't too bad.

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« Reply #926 on: August 16, 2015, 08:48:05 PM »
I have some veggie porn to share today.  Whatever these plum-types are (bought plants, might be San Marzano?) going crazy right now.  Also picked green beans, beets, carrots, corn, serranos, Thai chiles, a couple habaneros, red and yellow onions, about a bale's worth of basil and some okra today. Also a handful of strawberries that escaped the birds.  Next year, that bed will be netted fo'sho'.  It's so weird not being inundated with zucchini this time of year, but I'm able to swipe enough of what's brought into the office to keep us from buying it.  Also harvested a small watermelon the other day, though I jumped the gun and it was a little underripe.
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« Reply #927 on: August 17, 2015, 08:14:29 AM »
horsepoor why no zucchini? Did you lose the plants or are they just behind? Nice harvest otherwise!

Definitely want to try peppers again next year. Skipped them this year.

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« Reply #928 on: August 17, 2015, 12:09:43 PM »
I love canning.  This is the best online resource for up to date and safe home canning information.  The home page has a link for their free home study course.  It's a great use of time even for seasoned canners.  There is also a link to the recording from a recent webinar about canning. 

If you have any questions about canning I'd be happy to help you.  There is also a great FB group.  It is a closed group just called "Canning".  The admins of the group are very experienced canners and are very helpful.

I grow lots of food, but it costs me a fair amount of money in water.  Lately I've felt like I could do better with my $$ by just buying at the farmers market.  It would save me a TON of time too.  But I enjoy gardening and I've been experimenting with watering much less than I would like to and the plants seem to be doing just fine with it.

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« Reply #929 on: August 17, 2015, 01:36:18 PM »
jooles - On watering, it helps to have a rain gauge in the yard to track rainfall. 1" per week is considered a good rule of thumb to whether things will need water. But plant species, ambient weather, and soil type vary wildly on water needs.

1. Soaker hoses are incredibly water efficient, particularly if buried under soil or mulch. I like the round ones, not the flat ones.

2. Plant (and water) in zones. Group cucurbits together, as they are the most water intensive. Tomatoes don't need as much water, but they like to be kept evenly moist to avoid BER. Here in my climate they need more water than the brassicas. Beans need the least of the annuals in my experience. Potatoes generally need zero additional irrigation.

3. If you have to water overhead, do it late afternoon. This avoids evaporation loss from morning or midday sun but is early enough to dry plants out before nightfall to avoid fungal disease risk.

Water rates vary from area to area but you shouldn't be adding more than a few dollars to a monthly bill, even for gardens in the hundreds of square feet size range.

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« Reply #930 on: August 17, 2015, 02:11:40 PM »
horsepoor why no zucchini? Did you lose the plants or are they just behind? Nice harvest otherwise!

Definitely want to try peppers again next year. Skipped them this year.

My seedlings croaked and I didn't get around to planting new ones.  Had horrible luck with cucurbits overall this year.  Only one winter squash has made it to production stage, then the wind toppled my cucumbers, killing one of the two plants the other day. 

Peppers - no matter how many I plant, it never seems like enough, but really I would just like bell peppers that ripen earlier.  I have some big blocky ones, but they are still green as grass.

On watering - it is surprising how little water some crops can get away with.  I barely water my tomatoes once they get their roots down deep, and we live in the desert.  A rain gauge here in summer would probably get filled up with dust and bird poop first.  Yeah, straw mulch under soaker hoses seems like the way to go.  The veggie garden actually takes way less water per square foot than the stupid patch of fescue lawn we still have.

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« Reply #931 on: August 17, 2015, 05:27:09 PM »
Horsepoor, I'd gladly trade you some of my insane zucchini and cucumber harvest for some success with peppers and onions. I had dreams of making my own fresh salsa from the garden but my onions didn't do squat, and I planted my peppers much to close to my tomatoes, which completely smothered my pepper plants.

I am so looking forward to next year and eliminating SO MANY of my rookie mistakes.

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« Reply #932 on: August 18, 2015, 09:08:55 PM »
First (tatume) squash and tomatillos this past weekend -- I made french fries in the oven out of the squash  (dredge in flour, dip in egg, roll in a mix of panko and parmesan)   Tomatillos will have to wait until I have enough to make a batch of green sauce.  I love this time of year!!!


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« Reply #933 on: August 19, 2015, 07:12:09 AM »
Horsepoor, I'd gladly trade you some of my insane zucchini and cucumber harvest for some success with peppers and onions. I had dreams of making my own fresh salsa from the garden but my onions didn't do squat, and I planted my peppers much to close to my tomatoes, which completely smothered my pepper plants.

I am so looking forward to next year and eliminating SO MANY of my rookie mistakes.

I feel this way every year, after twelve years I'm still learning from my mistakes.

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« Reply #934 on: August 19, 2015, 04:43:14 PM »
Hey, curiosity question: would folks using this thread find it helpful to have a new "preserving the harvest" thread? There's an old thread I could necro from last year, but starting a new thread I could have the ability to continuously update post #1 with information/recipes organized by ingredient.

Figured I'd ask here, where most of the interest lies, before acting.


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« Reply #935 on: August 19, 2015, 06:27:08 PM »
Hey, curiosity question: would folks using this thread find it helpful to have a new "preserving the harvest" thread? There's an old thread I could necro from last year, but starting a new thread I could have the ability to continuously update post #1 with information/recipes organized by ingredient.

Figured I'd ask here, where most of the interest lies, before acting.

I would definitely follow that thread :-)

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« Reply #936 on: August 20, 2015, 05:54:02 AM »
Anyone have tips for judging the ripeness of paste tomatoes? Seems like every time I pick based on color they're still rather pink inside rather than deeper red.

Gently squeezing? I know they'll be firmer than slicers, but I'm guessing if I wait until they have more than a little give, they're ripe? Mine seem to turn red while still quite hard, then slowly soften/ripen.

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« Reply #937 on: August 20, 2015, 04:06:02 PM »
I have some veggie porn to share today.
niiiiice.

Hey, curiosity question: would folks using this thread find it helpful to have a new "preserving the harvest" thread? There's an old thread I could necro from last year, but starting a new thread I could have the ability to continuously update post #1 with information/recipes organized by ingredient.

Yes. I would follow, for sure.

Horsepoor, I'd gladly trade you some of my insane zucchini and cucumber harvest for some success with peppers and onions. I had dreams of making my own fresh salsa from the garden but my onions didn't do squat, and I planted my peppers much to close to my tomatoes, which completely smothered my pepper plants.

I am so looking forward to next year and eliminating SO MANY of my rookie mistakes.

I feel this way every year, after twelve years I'm still learning from my mistakes.

+1 to Horsepoor. Gardening is a "build a better mousetrap, they'll build a better mouse" situations. You're never really done learning. That's one really nice thing about it.

Anyone have tips for judging the ripeness of paste tomatoes? Seems like every time I pick based on color they're still rather pink inside rather than deeper red.

Gently squeezing? I know they'll be firmer than slicers, but I'm guessing if I wait until they have more than a little give, they're ripe? Mine seem to turn red while still quite hard, then slowly soften/ripen.

How hard is "quite hard"? Once mine are red everywhere, including up to the stem, they are usually pretty ready. At that point they have some give, but not a ton. For saucing and canning whole you don't want them too soft - but if you are planning on them for fresh eating it might be a good idea to let them go a few extra days.  As they get riper, generally (varieties are different, obvs) the color becomes a deeper red. So maybe look for a change from "fire-engine" to more like a deep red. Say, from #E22828 to #B31E1E.

Harvest of the day:

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« Reply #938 on: August 20, 2015, 08:27:29 PM »
Oh wow, so much beautiful produce!

It's still winter for us. Our kale, planted last winter, is still going strong. Much taller than I was expecting! (note to future self: do not plant kale so close to the washing line!)

I'm probaby not going to be able to do much gardening this spring/summer :( (had surgery last week, likely to be having medical treatment for the rest of the year) I'm hoping DH can keep everything alive, and maybe he can have a go at planting zucchinis if I point out where to plant them.

Parsley has spectacularly self-seeded where I planted it. Hoping for huge amounts this summer! Chives have come back from the dead. Hoping dill will self-seed too. It bolted to seed within a couple of months last year.

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Re: Planting/Growing Your Own...The Garden Thread
« Reply #939 on: August 21, 2015, 09:29:55 AM »
I'm probaby not going to be able to do much gardening this spring/summer :( (had surgery last week, likely to be having medical treatment for the rest of the year) I'm hoping DH can keep everything alive, and maybe he can have a go at planting zucchinis if I point out where to plant them.

Parsley has spectacularly self-seeded where I planted it. Hoping for huge amounts this summer! Chives have come back from the dead. Hoping dill will self-seed too. It bolted to seed within a couple of months last year.

I hope your recovery goes well.

Chives regrow from the root stock.  We have had the same chive bed for years now.  Every spring it comes back strong.  We cut it frequently so it never goes to seed.

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« Reply #940 on: August 21, 2015, 09:56:38 AM »
Once mine are red everywhere, including up to the stem, they are usually pretty ready. At that point they have some give, but not a ton. For saucing and canning whole you don't want them too soft -

Hmm, so if the flesh is a pinkish-red inside, that's good enough for sauce/drying?

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« Reply #941 on: August 21, 2015, 10:21:05 AM »
Anyone have advice on transplanting strawberries? I'm guessing, like most perennials, mid-fall (so mid/late Sept here) is a good time to move things around. I'm increasingly not liking the way I planted them this year and want to move them around. If it makes a difference, most of the ones that need to move are an everbearing variety.

Also, is it true they need several inches worth of mulch to survive temps below 15F/-10C? Should it be straw or would chopped up fall leaves work?

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« Reply #942 on: August 21, 2015, 10:48:40 AM »
Once mine are red everywhere, including up to the stem, they are usually pretty ready. At that point they have some give, but not a ton. For saucing and canning whole you don't want them too soft -

Hmm, so if the flesh is a pinkish-red inside, that's good enough for sauce/drying?

Typically, the flesh of mine inside is medium/light red all the way through, with a seed cavity that's filled out. Underripe romas sometimes have "hollow" looking seed cavity. Some paler streaking down the core is normal, but not white or light pink.

The old skool way of categorizing these things (tomatoes, peaches, etc.) was:

"firm-ripe" - the ripeness at which the fruit was fully mature and colored but still firm enough to ship without damage to the fruit. At this point the fruit will look good, but honestly it won't taste the best. Pears and peaches will still be a bit crunchy, tomatoes may have a paleness and "supermarket" flavor.

"canning-ripe" - the riper stage where the fruit is slightly soft and the flavor has developed further but the fruit is still firm enough to process without falling apart. At this point, the fruit would taste very good eaten fresh and - in the case of things like peaches, there would be no sign of "crunch" or "tooth" to the flesh, but the fruit would not require you to stand over the sink for fear of a juice explosion. Ideal stage for canning.;

"soft-ripe" - the stage at which the fruit is fully juicy and sweet. Ideal for fresh eating, but impossible to ship and too ripe for quality processing because fruit at this stage bruises and falls apart if you look at it firmly. Tomatoes at this stage  are very dark red all through the flesh, as juicy as their type will allow, and soft under the skin (most tomato skin is firm enough that you kind of have to feel "past" the skin to assess softness of the flesh.)

Anything past this is over-ripe. Over-ripe fruit will puddle from its own weight within a few hours if you set it on the counter. Decay may have started to set in. While it's tempting to use over-ripe "seconds" for canning, this should be avoided since the tomatoes become less acidic.

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« Reply #943 on: August 21, 2015, 01:39:29 PM »
Next year is gardening times for me. It has been neglected this year. I will get manure from my parents in law (horsefarm) and mix in. I will have little time in the spring but from the middle of may and the rest of summer there will be time to garden.

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Re: Planting/Growing Your Own...The Garden Thread
« Reply #944 on: August 21, 2015, 04:21:03 PM »
Next year is gardening times for me. It has been neglected this year. I will get manure from my parents in law (horsefarm) and mix in.

Don't wait till spring to do this.  Do this before December to permit the bacteria a head start.

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« Reply #945 on: August 22, 2015, 12:05:44 PM »
Next year is gardening times for me. It has been neglected this year. I will get manure from my parents in law (horsefarm) and mix in.

Don't wait till spring to do this.  Do this before December to permit the bacteria a head start.

I will! Thinking about doing it in october before it gets to cold.

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« Reply #946 on: August 23, 2015, 07:42:54 PM »
http://hub.me/adte4
This is a link to an article I wrote a few years ago regarding how to get veggies to reseed themselves. It saves a lot of work and cost of buying and planting seeds. There are some disadvantages to go along with the advantages.

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« Reply #947 on: August 23, 2015, 07:51:27 PM »
Another 18 pounds of Roma tomatoes just hauled in from the garden today! I think this is the only year I've ever NOT bought in additional canning tomatoes. Feels great! Praised be Global Warming, and not our strength, for it!

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« Reply #948 on: August 23, 2015, 08:08:06 PM »
My first green bell pepper has developed some purplish/brown spots on the end. They are softer than the rest of the green pepper. I'm not sure if it's going to turn red or if there is something wrong with it. It is still not at the full mature size to pick off the plant either so I'm just going to wait to see what happens. Since this is my first time growing this plant, we'll see what transpires.
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Re: Planting/Growing Your Own...The Garden Thread
« Reply #949 on: August 23, 2015, 09:26:53 PM »
Anyone have advice on transplanting strawberries? I'm guessing, like most perennials, mid-fall (so mid/late Sept here) is a good time to move things around.

Pretty easy, just dig them up and replant where you like. Strawberries don't need a huge root ball either, you can dig pretty close to the plant. If the soil is very soft/sany, you can just pull them out and replant, as long as some root comes with it. make sure to water it every few days for a few weeks.

Also, is it true they need several inches worth of mulch to survive temps below 15F/-10C? Should it be straw or would chopped up fall leaves work?
+15F is no problem at all. I never mulch strawberries, and last winter it got down below -10F here, and it has gotten as low as -20 and the strawberries survive just fine.

 

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