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Re: Own up to your internet usage
« Reply #50 on: November 18, 2019, 07:38:54 PM »
I think "void time" is great in and of itself! I don't think we need to fill every moment with productivity, and a bit of boredom can actually be very restful for our brains. If you get urges to do other things, great, but if you just sit with yourself, I don't see a problem with it.

Heard someone today say that whenever she wants to check twitter, she gets up to rub her dog's tummy instead. I can't do that at work, but thought it was a charming redirection.

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Re: Own up to your internet usage
« Reply #51 on: November 18, 2019, 09:06:57 PM »
I just joined the forums and found this thread. This is a great challenge - something I definitely need to try.

For me, the big problem is all the little interruptions during the day - both work email and those "micro breaks" where I interrupt what I'm doing to scroll Facebook/Instagram or read the news. The work email is harder to control, because many more senior people at my office give me a hard time if I don't answer an email quickly. But I need to try to restrict all the other web surfing and phone messaging to lunchtime.

First thing in the morning and before bedtime are problem times for me too. It doesn't add up to that much time (most of my screen time is productive work tasks or creative writing) but I think it's making me less focused.

I've tried in the last few weeks to do this as my own private "detox" but it hasn't worked too well. Maybe I need the forum to keep me accountable?

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Re: Own up to your internet usage
« Reply #52 on: November 19, 2019, 12:38:33 PM »
Welcome, @raincoast!

I think I need to flesh out my line in the sand a bit more with Facebook.

I use it to buy things second hand, stay up on in-person events for different groups in my city, and to arrange to meet up with friends. Those are all task-based items. I'm finding that on my way to doing those things, I feel compelled to scroll through the photos of the friend I'm contacting, to see what she's been up to. Or I get distracted with friend suggestions when I see someone appear that I haven't seen in 15 years. Things like that.

I think the main thing is to keep my feed as empty as possible (I just figured out how to hide friend suggestions, so that's a plus). Maybe ask around about how people manage their notifications, when it's a mix of task- and surfing-based items. And to define what's surfing, so I can redirect those urges here.

So surfing Facebook is basically anything that's not Facebook Messenger, my Events page + the pages of the in-person groups I'm part of, and the Marketplace + Yard Sale groups for when I'm looking for specific items.
When I want to look on people's profiles, go to my on-line group forums, click on something that pops up on my feed, check out a notification that's not task-based, etc, I will check in here instead. And remind myself that I can do all those things on my designated surf evening.

Wish me luck!



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Re: Own up to your internet usage
« Reply #53 on: November 21, 2019, 11:54:49 AM »

So surfing Facebook is basically anything that's not Facebook Messenger, my Events page + the pages of the in-person groups I'm part of, and the Marketplace + Yard Sale groups for when I'm looking for specific items.


I think that's a useful line for me too, since Facebook (and the internet in general) is also a tool that can be used productively if you have a purpose in mind. The problem is that, even when I go online with a purpose in mind, I often get sucked down rabbit holes.

I've gotten better this week by not automatically scrolling Facebook/Instagram when I wake up. I find I tend to reach for my phone when I have a moment of downtime or boredom - waiting for elevators, etc. Yesterday I had one of those workdays where nothing is particularly bad but you still feel bored/disengaged, and I found myself frequently looking for anything other than my work to distract me.

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Re: Own up to your internet usage
« Reply #54 on: November 21, 2019, 08:05:16 PM »
Today I received a notification by email of an old friend's Facebook post related to a health crisis in her family. I checked her profile to get an update. It turned out that all was well. I didn't send her a message or connect in any other way.... though I did scroll through her photos to see what she's been up to.

This brings up a few things:
-Facebook photos tell little of what people are up to. That justification has got to go.

-Facebook is a great tool for connecting with others, but looking at friend's posts or even commenting on them doesn't make me feel connected. It's important for me to connect with people IRL. On that note, it probably would have been better to send my friend a message, letting her know I was thinking of her. Or better yet, to call her.

-I'm still not sure how to handle notifications so I don't get random ones. I'm going to put it on my "Projects" list to research how to turn off as much as I can.

-I think I could have waited until this weekend to check her profile for an update. If it was a true emergency that involved me (it was not) I could have been reached by phone. Even though it felt like a compelling reason to step off my task-based path, checking her status and scrolling her photos was surfing. There is a time and place for that.

-I don't catch myself surfing Facebook as easily as other surfing, because the uses still feel intertwined. But I suppose checking in here, even after the fact, may help make it less automatic. I think I'll have what I need as long as I can become aware that I'm about to surf.

On a positive note, I hung out with a friend last night. I wasn't feeling particularly motivated to go out- and in the past, I would've just hunkered down at home, likely online. But other than having to make an effort to get my butt out of the house, I had SO MUCH FUN. It's been so worth it to choose effortful leisure.





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Re: Own up to your internet usage
« Reply #55 on: November 22, 2019, 09:14:22 PM »
I did my weekly surfing this evening. I was right in the middle of writing a post at the two-hour mark, and spent 30 minutes longer finishing it up.
Strategy for my goal of 2 hours surfing next week: the usual check-ins with urges and a check-in at the 2 hour mark of my surfing day, maybe this time looking at wrapping up a little earlier, so I'm not mid-post like today.

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Re: Own up to your internet usage
« Reply #56 on: November 23, 2019, 04:37:58 PM »
For me, the big problem is all the little interruptions during the day - both work email and those "micro breaks" where I interrupt what I'm doing to scroll Facebook/Instagram or read the news. The work email is harder to control, because many more senior people at my office give me a hard time if I don't answer an email quickly. But I need to try to restrict all the other web surfing and phone messaging to lunchtime.

I think we've mentioned Cal Newport's Digital Minimalism in this thread, but if it hasn't come up yet, you may also like his Deep Work. The most impactful idea for me was this one:

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The use of a distracting service does not, by itself, reduce your brain’s ability to focus. It’s instead the constant switching from low-stimuli/high-value activities to high-stimuli/low-value activities, at the slightest hint of boredom or cognitive challenge, that teaches your mind to never tolerate an absence of novelty.

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Re: Own up to your internet usage
« Reply #57 on: November 25, 2019, 10:49:06 AM »
Last week (11/17-11/23) I logged 54 screen hours, 15 of which were on my phone.

Major consideration:
Video games   10 hours   
News   6 hours
MMM forum   3.5 hours   
Python programming   3 hours   
YNAB   2.5 hours   
Youtube   2.5 hours
Various texting apps   5 hours   
Facebook   1.5 hours

I seem to have hit a bit of a plateau!

I'm not going to track this week, because I'm on vacation. I do expect my overall time to go down, though my mobile time might go up.

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« Reply #58 on: November 26, 2019, 10:54:25 AM »
A few days ago I had a seemingly pressing decision to make and convinced myself that it was the exception to the non-task based internet use rule. It really wasn't.  I spent about 45 minutes googling different articles on the subject. But in the end, it didn't help me answer my question. I was kind've back to where I started. And even if google had helped, it could have waited until my designated surf time.

For me, idea development and decision-making isn't something to rush, no matter how hard I try. It's usually a non-linear process that requires a lot of letting things simmer. Googling, in that light, rarely brings me insight. In fact, I can't think of one time it did with these kinds of things.

So I'm here to reinforce that I can google whatever I want during my surf time. Outside of that and it's too easy to get sucked in to the point that it affects the rest of my life. And I don't have to control the desire to surf outside its designated time. Just check in here when I feel compelled (ideally before acting).

It's nearly the 1-month mark of this challenge for me. I haven't quite reached my goal of 2 hours surf time per week. But I'm really excited about how things have gone. I surfed up to 4 hours per day before the challenge. The last 4 weeks, it's been 4 hours of surfing max per week.

Bring on month 2!
« Last Edit: November 26, 2019, 10:56:02 AM by Luz »

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Re: Own up to your internet usage
« Reply #59 on: December 01, 2019, 10:08:23 AM »
The toddler is out and about with her dad. I have the house to myself and am listening to music after doing a few hours of my side hustle. I'd love to google details about the artist, but that can wait until next surf session.
My last session was Friday and I kept it to my goal of 2 hours, for the first time. I think it's partly because I have no motivation or interest in anything from these darn first trimester pregnancy hormones, not even the internet.
Next right action: enjoy my empty house and just sit here and listen to the album.

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Re: Own up to your internet usage
« Reply #60 on: December 02, 2019, 11:56:11 AM »
Gave up on social media ages ago. Have spent ALOT of time here on self-improvement/learning with good value.

Spend too much time at work during quiet times reading MMM. Need to manage that way, way better. Not impacting my job which goes through quiet and busy periods but I could devote more time to learning other useful skills for my career. I do some, need to do more.

One goofy coping mechanism is opening that new rabbit hole link in another tab and then ignoring it for days and weeks or not reading those tabs at all.

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« Reply #61 on: December 04, 2019, 07:55:08 PM »
Most of my scrolling has been on the MMM forum and my favorite blog since I started the challenge. I have used very little of my designated time for my Facebook groups, which used to be my main thing. I was thinking of them today and how nice it will be to catch up. I left most of them when I did my detox.

The thought crossed my mind that there's really nothing keeping me from scrolling through them tonight and I could come up with a good excuse for doing so. But there's something that has worked so well by checking in here. I don't know how it's worked exactly, but I think it has allowed me to be honest with myself in the moment and to think critically about the justifications I believe for spending my time in a way I ultimately don't want to spend it.

I'm at the point today that while surfing my Facebook groups sounds nice, I'm ok with holding off until my next surf session. I want to surf tonight less than I want the things that the 2 hour/week surfing lifestyle allows.

@Just Joe, are you taking on the challenge? If so, what's your goal?

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« Reply #62 on: December 05, 2019, 04:22:23 PM »
Came across this interesting article that feels apropos.

https://thebaffler.com/salvos/r-i-p-kill-your-tv-zaitchik

I feel the most productive times in my life were when I dropped cold-turkey pretty much all forms of "entertainment" and focused instead on productivity (perhaps this isn't the best word for "shit I know I should be doing"). That certainly isn't surprising, but what is counterintuitive is that I think I'm actually happier when I give up these distractions as well.

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« Reply #63 on: December 05, 2019, 04:27:32 PM »
@Just Joe, are you taking on the challenge? If so, what's your goal?

Yes, goal is to either read much, much faster or read less while at work. 50%+ reduction. There are certainly other things I could be doing to improve my skillset that is specifically engineering related... ;)

Sometimes I challenge myself to go a week or more without visiting websites/forums with good results.

After a long period of reading these forums I realized everyone has messy people around them to varying degrees - I had less to share. My social circle isn't really any messier than the forum average. Made some of my stories feel flat - which is a good thing I suppose. ;)

At times these forums have functioned like group counseling sessions. Thank you. Now focusing a bit more on learning rather than commiserating. Making fewer comments also makes the forum visits faster too.
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« Reply #64 on: December 07, 2019, 09:52:52 AM »
Took my surf session last night. It was 3.5 hours. It's hard to get off once I'm on. I'm pleased that I've mostly been staying away from surfing outside my designated time, but I'd like to get in the mode of checking in after 2 hours, even if I extend the time further. I think that's a good first step towards tackling stepping away when it's time. So that's my goal for the week. That plus continue to check in with urges.

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« Reply #65 on: December 09, 2019, 01:17:12 PM »
Slightly late check-in. It's pretty clear that my self-control got lax after vacation. 

Last week (11/17-11/23) I logged 68 screen hours, 19.5 of which were on my phone.

Major consideration:
Video games17 hours   
Various texting apps   4 hours   My notification blocker has stopped working??
Youtube   4 hours   Watched an annual charity livestream
MMM forum   3.5 hours   
Facebook   2.5 hours
News   2 hours
YNAB   2 hours   

Goal: Productive procrastination. I have had no success expecting focus out of every minute of my workday, but when I want to dawdle on my actual job, I would like to put that energy toward some career development, mostly online courses/certificates. I have a few of these lined up already.

Strategy: I uninstalled a video game from my laptop.

Since we're getting toward the end of the year, I have a lot of work to do and hopefully the total procrastination also decreases.

Goal #2: Keep up the sleep schedule. This requires regular effort but it's worth it. 8:30 screen bedtime on weeknights helps.

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« Reply #66 on: December 12, 2019, 08:37:09 AM »
I went to message a friend on Facebook about weekend plans and saw something she posted to her feed that I really wanted to comment on. That was my cue to check in here. I also realized that my designated surf time is just a day away. So I can comment then. And I'll also check in after 2 hours of surf time, in an effort to keep it from going over.

Next right thing: hop in the shower and start my day!

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« Reply #67 on: December 12, 2019, 10:08:12 AM »
So earlier I wanted to comment on a friend's post on Facebook.... and now I want to google the topic and read articles on it. It can wait until tomorrow.

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« Reply #68 on: December 14, 2019, 08:43:55 AM »
2 Check-ins:
-I took an hour of my surf time yesterday afternoon, anticipating that I wouldn't have a chance to surf this weekend. But I'd rather keep surfing to the evening and leave the day open for other things. Even if I don't have a chance to surf this weekend, I can always fit it in Monday night.

-I was looking at a few items on FB Marketplace a few days ago and saw a link to an interesting article, which I clicked. I prefer to save all clicking around like that to my designated surf times.

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« Reply #69 on: December 15, 2019, 09:36:09 AM »
I took my surf time yesterday and did 4 hours (actually 5 because I took an hour surf time during the afternoon when it looked like my weekend evenings would be too full to surf). 4 hours on Facebook groups and 1 hour on MMM. I didn't check in after 2 hours (my current strategy for prying myself away- doesn't seem to be working well).

This week, I'm going to try to do 3 hours with a check-in and see how that goes. Maybe a little extra time will be helpful, though it also could backfire. Anyone have any ideas for pulling myself away after my time is up? That's where I'm currently stuck.

I'll likely have a number of notifications this week from my groups, since I commented on different posts for the first time in a long while. My goal is to stay out of the FB forum pages despite the notifications until my next surf time. That might mean I check in here more often. I wish there was a way to hide notifications from certain pages so I only see them during my surf time. If the groups create more urges to surf when not appropriate, I may need to re-evaluate their use.

I also have one forum (non-Facebook) that's for my career. My time on there could technically be considered task-based, since I'm researching with the purpose of developing my career- but I could spend an entire day looking through posts, so I'm keeping it to my surf time. I actually could probably talk myself into all forum visits (MMM, Facebook, etc) being task-based- since my membership in the groups is about learning new information and having people's feedback on different ideas. But it's about the amount of time I get sucked in. So since my detox, I've hung onto 3 Facebook groups, 2 internet forums, and 1 blog - but only during surf time. And I also keep google searches on non-pressing issues to the surf time too, since that's the other area of internet time suck for me.

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« Reply #70 on: December 15, 2019, 10:45:04 AM »
I took my surf time yesterday and did 4 hours (actually 5 because I took an hour surf time during the afternoon when it looked like my weekend evenings would be too full to surf). 4 hours on Facebook groups and 1 hour on MMM. I didn't check in after 2 hours (my current strategy for prying myself away- doesn't seem to be working well).

This week, I'm going to try to do 3 hours with a check-in and see how that goes. Maybe a little extra time will be helpful, though it also could backfire. Anyone have any ideas for pulling myself away after my time is up? That's where I'm currently stuck.

I can't imagine spending 4 hours at a time on facebook mostly because I've strictly limited the content I see there. First of all, I always view chronologically instead of "Top stories" so the algorithm can't feed me new stuff forever. (Admittedly, and probably to force you to use the algorithm, the chronological news feed doesn't go back forever, and if you're only checking once a week you might miss stuff.) I also unfollowed people/pages pretty aggressively and set my busiest groups not to show up in my news feed (so I only see Buy Nothing when I specifically go to that page). Finally, I installed the extension FB Purity, which gives you more precise control over what shows up in your news feed, including allowing you to permanently set the chronological ("Most Recent") view. Right now I'm blocking sponsored posts, game/app posts, trending posts, anytime a friend likes something/joins a group/gets a new friend/is interested in an event/gets tagged in a photo by someone else - and I've also told it to block "meme images," which it isn't actually great at but it's kind of amusing to see what it catches.

Anyway. I run out of stuff to do on facebook quickly, so I don't spend much time there. In related news, I finished a huge video game this week, so I've decided to take a break from those for a while. We'll see how my screen time changes!

Last week (12/8-12/14) I logged 58 screen hours, 14.5 of which were on my phone.

Major consideration:
Video games12 hours   
Advice column   6 hours   Guilty pleasure - yikes!
Various texting apps   6 hours   Notification blocker still not working
MMM forum   4 hours   
Youtube   4 hours   
Facebook   2 hours
Phone browser   1.5 hours
Career development   1.5 hours
News   0.5 hours

I would not call this a very successful week, goal-wise. It's hard to want to stick to a routine when I know I'm about to ruin it over vacation anyway. I only work two days this week before flying to see my family, so I probably won't be back with detailed tracking until January. Happy new year everyone!

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« Reply #71 on: December 20, 2019, 11:08:11 PM »
Did my three hours today. Here I am checking in, so that's progress. Thanks for the Facebook tips, @Tass. I love my Facebook forums and will likely spend much of my surf time on them, but limiting content will be a huge help for not getting sucked in between surfs.
I'm hoping that three hours is the charm and I can stick to it. We'll see how next week goes.

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« Reply #72 on: December 21, 2019, 08:45:26 AM »
Hi team:

I'd like to join this challenge!  I've been working on this forever, with progress in fits and starts.  Sometimes I've wasted enormous amounts of time online, to the detriment of work, friends, etc.  Other times its been pretty limited and in check.  Honestly, I think this is just a soft addiction that almost everyone has and we are all going to need to work collectively as a society to manage.  It's not like heroin where the answer is cold turkey immediately.  There are great things about tech but also seriously negative ramifications that we need to collectively work through. 

I've started off a week ago by setting myself a challenge of going cold turkey on my top two time wasters (another forum, where the content isn't as useful as this one) and one political blog.  I decided to attack specific websites because saying "OK no more internet today" flatly just didn't work, so I am trying to do this as a habit roll-up.  I'm not going to go from 2-3 hours a day to being a zen internet mastermind cold turkey, it's going to be a process with fits and starts.  So I am attacking the worst offenders first (the snarky forum is the WORST because people aren't nice and the threads stick in my head so I have a constant temptation to check back every so often, and the political blog I chose has commenters with a nastier tone than some others).

I've done pretty good with only a scan of the political blog all week and zero time on the snarky forum.  I'm going to continue that and add another political blog this week, which will take out my top three enemies.  I've noticed that I develop "substitutes" so its a bit of whack-a-mole, but if the total time wasted goes down it's a win, and if the substitutes are frugal blogs instead of pure waste blogs that's still a win. 

Like others on this thread, I sometimes also convince myself I need to do extensive "research" online.  Like the time in college I spent two days researching a laptop.  Or last year when I researched a TV for seven hours but then the store didn't have that model and I bought a comparable substitute without research.  Just last week I "researched" the life story of a particular band.  LOL.  Just yesterday I got caught up in a pointless debate on an other thread here -- I know that is fun for other people, but with a more than full time job and three kids that time ALWAYS comes from somewhere for me and it's just not worth it. 

I sometimes use internet to simply avoid doing other things.  I am a pretty hard worker and so this almost always happens during my free time and crowds out time with family or other fun things.  So to a certain extent I think I need to embrace "the nothing alternative."  I don't need to beat myself up about not networking more or doing a side hustle on saturday morning.  I am not actually trying to increase total work time but to carve out time for joyful fun and deep reflection.  So If I don't feel like being productive on a weekend morning, I should just enjoy my coffee and take my time to think through my day rather than go down various rabbit holes. 

It's a bit ironic to all share strategies to spend less time on the internet on the internet but I find the group connection helpful.  I'm going to plan to check here every Sunday (when I can see the rescue time weekly report for the last week) and avoid posting the rest of the week. 

See you tomorrow and good luck everyone!
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« Reply #73 on: December 25, 2019, 09:13:08 AM »
Yes to everything you said, blinx7! Great to have you in the challenge!

I am actually 9 years in recovery for a full-blown addiction in another area. There are SO MANY similarities to that and my internet use (although the consequences are much less severe at this point). It wasn't until I applied the strategy I used to come back from my initial addiction that I saw progress with my internet use. I spent 6 years trying everything else to manage it better. And it's just been since this challenge that I've been able to move forward. So exciting!

This has been a helpful article for me: https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/how-addiction-hijacks-the-brain.
It states: "In nature, rewards usually come only with time and effort. Addictive drugs and behaviors provide a shortcut, flooding the brain with dopamine and other neurotransmitters. Our brains do not have an easy way to withstand the onslaught."
I think accepting that digital devices are a bit more than my brain can handle has been such a helpful step, even though how we engage with our devices as a society, like you stated, is still so normalized.

I've learned with addiction that the only way for me to get out of the cycle is to abstain from the behavior. The dopamine cycle loses it's power that way. And the only way to abstain from the behavior has been to address every single urge in the moment, within a community so it's not just me in my head, and with the purpose of uncovering how I'm justifying the behavior to myself. Otherwise, my original intentions are totally laid to waste by justifications for why engaging in the behavior (in this case: surfing when it's not the appropriate time) is an exception just this once.

Cold turkey is easier for sure, but there are plenty of behavioral addictions where the person in recovery has to interact with the trigger (ie: problem gamblers still have to spend money to survive, binge eaters still have to eat). In those cases, it's clearly defining the line in the sand that you won't cross that makes a difference. But you still have to take the tiger out of its cage a few times a day, as they say.

Not everyone may identify with the addiction explanation, but I certainly was beating my head against the wall until I understood the brain science of addiction. Understanding more of the nuances has helped me figure out a better strategy for tackling this issue.

Depending on what's going on in my life, I'll have more urges to surf when it's not time. But I've seen steady progression. I can see that my urges to surf are coming every 5 days or so, where at the start of the challenge, it was a few times a day.

We celebrate the holidays on Christmas Eve, so today the morning is kind've stretching out before me. I thought a bit about surfing, so I'm checking in here. Instead, I'm going to do my daily writing exercise to help me get centered, then turn on some music and get some cleaning done. Then hop in the shower.

Not sure who said it, but I really like this quote: "Nothing will make you feel better except doing the work".
And also this one: "You can never get enough of what you don't need".

Happy Holidays!!





 

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« Reply #74 on: December 26, 2019, 06:13:37 AM »

Hi Luz, thanks for writing and great job going to journal yesterday.  I've been working on journaling too recently.  I started out with a morning worksheet that was useful for framing the day, and I've been adding a free-form evening reflection.  Sometimes it's helped sort out psychologically why I am feeling a certain way or doing things that aren't moving me forward in my life. 

Internet usage is a very tricky habit because there are probably some things we just want to eliminate entirely, other things that are useful in moderation, and even some things that can be positive in certain circumstances and not others.  For example, I like certain parts of this site because there are a lot of smart people focused on self-improvement and self-actualization but then there are plenty of ways to waste time here as well.  It's like if there was a combined casino/grocery store or something.  I'm thinking of this effort over the coming year as "rewiring my brain" and so am grateful for the link -- I'm trying defeat my bad habits with a multi-pronged approach:  self-study, tracking, discipline and reflection.   

I was using Freedom as an internet blocker until recently but I found it too easy to defeat (and sometimes I set goals that were too rigid and boxed myself in more than I wanted) and so I am discontinuing that and trying out RescueTime Pro as my guide for 2020.  RescueTime has blocking features (which I haven't been able to set up well yet) but my goal is that with tracking and discpline I'll just teach myself over time and be less reliant on them.

I'm going strong on my initial goal to avoid the top three sites that were causing me problems.  Rescue Time tells me that for the week of 12/15 - 12/21 I logged 33h 43 m, of which 11h 53 min were "very distracting" and 7hr 45 min were "distracting."  I think that might be an undercount that didn't track my work computer, but I very rarely waste time at work so it's probably OK.  I'm off this week so numbers may be higher but not too bad so far. 

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« Reply #75 on: December 28, 2019, 12:52:30 PM »
I'm changing up a few things in my daily rhythm and am checking in here about when surfing will now take place and where triggers for surfing when it's not time might pop up.

I'm almost to my 2nd trimester of pregnancy and just turned a corner in feeling much better physically and mentally. So I'm back to exercising mid-day when the toddler naps, instead of napping myself. I find that when I have something that requires motivation to get started (like exercise), I'm much more compelled to "take my 15 minute break" first. So I'll likely be checking in more often during exercise time for awhile. I'm doing my side hustle in the evening in anticipation of having a newborn and toddler whose daytime naps don't overlap for awhile. I'll be lucky to squeeze in exercise during the day with 2 kids. Otherwise all my productive things are going to the evening hours.

During the evening, the plan is to do 1 hour of side hustle before anything else. Then 1 hour of surfing 3 days a week and the other days doing projects/going out/studying Spanish. The plan is to turn off the computer 1 hour before bed to take time to read or write. My problem area has been logging off once my time is up, so I'll be working on identifying barriers and coming up with strategies to make that easier for me. It might help to just commit to always checking in, even if its after the fact and I went over (last night I surfed for an hour and 15 minutes). I also realize that surfing 3 x 1 hour will give me more opportunities for going over my time limit. It might also help to lay out the book or magazine I'm reading beforehand, so I realize I get to continue to relax for awhile yet. L Maybe I can try to get into the habit of wrapping things up starting at the 45 minute mark and also remind myself that my time for surfing is not scarce, even if it feels like it. I can pick up where I left off at the next session.

I'm happy with how things went the last few months. I could easily have talked myself into surfing whenever the hell I wanted to, since I felt so constantly miserable and would have "deserved" the break. But I decided that there will be no exceptions. Because they always just lead me back to where I started. It feels good to know I dealt with a challenge without reverting back to old behavior.

I had Freedom on my computer for a time and it was somewhat helpful. But I decided to go without after going home to visit my family for three weeks last summer and spending most evenings after the toddler was in bed on my parent's computer, which was control-free. I justified it by saying that I deserved the break. It was a stressful summer since my husband was really sick for most of it. In the end though, I regret not going out with friends, playing pickup soccer, doing puzzles with my parents or reading instead. Those would have been better de-stressors (although a good, three-hour surf every week would have been great as well). And I would have stayed present for the trip. I'm planning another trip in March and am determined to surf my 3 hours a week and then totally live it up with family and friends. I'm so thankful this challenge came about and hopefully I'll get a do-over!
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Re: Own up to your internet usage
« Reply #76 on: December 28, 2019, 08:53:38 PM »
Checking in after my hour (and 5 minutes) of surfing tonight. It's time to log off and read my book. I'm doing an hour of surfing each Fri, Sat, and Sun evening now that my schedule has changed. I'll check in after my surf time tomorrow, too.

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« Reply #77 on: December 29, 2019, 07:44:00 PM »
Checking in after my hour of surfing tonight.
I actually like doing my three surfing hours over three days instead of in one evening. It's the same number of hours, but it feels like the time stretches out way more. This week at least, I didn't have to tear myself away. I felt like I had plenty of time to surf what I wanted to surf.
I hope this trend continues and 3 hours over 3 days (Fri, Sat, Sun for now) is the ticket for me.
I joined the 50 books in 2020 challenge on MMM. I think it'll be a good companion challenge to owning up to my internet use.
Next action tonight is my side hustle, then a book.

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« Reply #78 on: December 30, 2019, 05:46:46 AM »
Following this thread with interest although I don't feel that I should post as I have general issues with procrastination beyond the internet.

Cal Newport recently had a great blog post with a very concise but heavy hitting blog post. I'm thinking of implementing this in my own life and seeing how it goes.

https://www.calnewport.com/blog/2019/12/06/the-advice-i-gave-my-students/

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« Reply #79 on: December 30, 2019, 07:08:18 AM »
Hey! I also read Deep Work a couple of weeks ago!

Even before that, I had committed to reducing wasted time on the internet, but I haven't been successful.

Goal 1: Quit Facebook.

I have a lot of excuses for why I haven't quit Facebook. I'm a fan of a variety of Cat celebrities, the Dodo, two Accounting Forums that have really great discussions, and Heather Cox Richardson, a history professor, who does a daily update of political news. And finally, my business page is tied to my Facebook account, and if I disable my account, my business Facebook will also die.

So I unfollowed all of my friends first. That did cut down on my Facebook time, but I filled it with cute videos of animals instead.
So I unfollowed most of the cats and the Dodo. Helpful, but every time Facebook is uninteresting, I go to MMM, Bogleheads, or Ask a Manager.
Heather Cox Richardson will deliver her newsletter by email, so that's a silly excuse.
And it turns out that only about 25% of the content on the Accounting Forums is actually good. Still, it's like a bear trap around my ankle.
I can make my employees authorized users on my business Facebook and block Facebook from my various computers. But I haven't.


Goal 2: Block MMM, Bogleheads, Ask a Manager at work

I probably spend 2 hours of my work day on the internet. Every time I pause between tasks, I want a mental break. Queue the internet. Reducing Facebook has only lead to my other forums taking over. I had actually gotten to where I had stopped posting (since posting is a huge time sink - oh the irony) for awhile, but as soon as Facebook reduced, posting returned.

If I could actually stop wasting time on the internet at work, I could literally end my work day 2 hours earlier. Why is it so hard?


Goal 3: Internet wastage is only for the morning while eating breakfast and weekends, if I feel so inclined.

Ok, so, I normally would have finished eating breakfast 15 minutes ago... and instead I'm posting on the internet. I feel like there's a problem in my Goal#3.

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« Reply #80 on: December 30, 2019, 08:50:33 AM »
Today I received a notification by email of an old friend's Facebook post related to a health crisis in her family. I checked her profile to get an update. It turned out that all was well. I didn't send her a message or connect in any other way.... though I did scroll through her photos to see what she's been up to.

This brings up a few things:
-Facebook photos tell little of what people are up to. That justification has got to go.

-Facebook is a great tool for connecting with others, but looking at friend's posts or even commenting on them doesn't make me feel connected. It's important for me to connect with people IRL. On that note, it probably would have been better to send my friend a message, letting her know I was thinking of her. Or better yet, to call her.

-I'm still not sure how to handle notifications so I don't get random ones. I'm going to put it on my "Projects" list to research how to turn off as much as I can.

-I think I could have waited until this weekend to check her profile for an update. If it was a true emergency that involved me (it was not) I could have been reached by phone. Even though it felt like a compelling reason to step off my task-based path, checking her status and scrolling her photos was surfing. There is a time and place for that.

-I don't catch myself surfing Facebook as easily as other surfing, because the uses still feel intertwined. But I suppose checking in here, even after the fact, may help make it less automatic. I think I'll have what I need as long as I can become aware that I'm about to surf.

On a positive note, I hung out with a friend last night. I wasn't feeling particularly motivated to go out- and in the past, I would've just hunkered down at home, likely online. But other than having to make an effort to get my butt out of the house, I had SO MUCH FUN. It's been so worth it to choose effortful leisure.

I'm glad you brought this up. I had unfollowed a friend because of her caustic posts about the President (I try to keep my social media more in the middle of both extremes there), and I missed her move into hospice and then pass away. I regret that I wasn't in a position to send her a supportive message while she lived.

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« Reply #81 on: January 01, 2020, 01:28:40 PM »
In celebration of a new decade, I'm taking on a few throw-down-the-gauntlet challenges on the MMM forum! I'm pumped!
But today I was unsure if they will be the exception to my surfing 3 hours a week rule. Can I check in on just my challenges whenever I have an update? Or will I need to post during my designated surf time only, in keeping with this challenge? I decided it's the latter. I'm inspired and will likely have gauntlet-related thoughts that I want to post during the week. But that could be a slippery slope. I can take notes on paper if an idea comes to mind and it's not surf-time. Then post them when it is.
For this challenge, I post whenever I want to surf (and it's not time) or if I'm surfing and it's time to log off. I'd like to interact with everyone's posts more, but I suppose that's something I can do during surf-time.
If it's not time to surf, I'm here just to check in.



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« Reply #82 on: January 01, 2020, 07:43:58 PM »
So I gave the challenges more thought, and decided to try something out...
2 evenings a week I set aside for projects and 1 evening a week is for studying Spanish. There are 3 MMM challenges that relate to the focus for those evenings. I decided then, that on those nights (Mon/Tues for projects and Wed for Spanish) I'm going to interact with the challenge threads (but only those 3). If I find myself off-task and distracted, I'll check in here and re-evaluate.
But I'm hoping the threads will help jump-start my goals in those areas.
I'm also going for the 50 books challenge (it'll likely be more like 30, but I'm giving it a shot) and I'd like to keep track of my health habits through one of the health/fitness threads... but those aren't really project-related, so I'll save my posting on those for surf time.

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« Reply #83 on: January 02, 2020, 05:07:55 AM »
Goal 1: Quit Facebook.

I quit Facebook completely in April 2012 and have never gone back. I permanently deleted my account. I didn’t just deactivate it, which in my opinion is a total cop out.

If you’re serious about quitting Facebook, the first thing to do is get all of the Facebook related apps off your phone. I don’t care what people say, when it’s on your phone, it basically on your person 24/7 and it’s so much harder for your addicted brain (more dopamine anyone?) to battle with the ever-present temptation of checking your feed or your likes etc. If it’s on your phone, you WILL relapse sooner or later.

The same thinking applies to iPads and Android tablets. They are no different from phones. In my experience, although people don’t carry tablets with them everywhere they go (that’s what phones are for) many people keep a tablet next to their bed or the couch. Instead of sleeping or watching a film on television with 100% of their attention, they end up playing games or mindlessly browsing the internet with the film on the television serving as little more than background noise and further distraction. This kind of fragmented attention multi-taking is what rapidly turns you into a zombie/vegetable/addict.

I believe that anything beneficial and meaningful about Facebook (and the internet in general) can be done on a desktop PC in your home (or a laptop functioning a desktop PC) in no more than 30 minutes a week.

Restrict yourself to 30 minutes Facebook use per week for two weeks. If you’re successful in doing this, reduce the time to 20 minutes per week for the following two weeks.

You can split the time however you like across the days of the week, just make sure you don’t exceed the maximum weekly browsing time. Ever. Set a timer/alarm to go off (make it loud and annoying) at the end of this allotted browsing time to jolt you out of your potentially mind numbing stupor. Keep a pen and pad next to your desktop PC, and before you even power it up to go on Facebook, write down on the pad, in as much detail as you can, exactly what it is you intend to do in your 5 or 10 minute mini session and allocate amounts of time to each separate activity. Be as detailed and specific as you can. Why?

This is often enough to put the brakes on and make you realise the futility the random, undefined browsing you were about to engage in. You read it back to yourself and realise that you weren’t going to do anything important and that you were merely scratching a dopamine driven itch, because you’re an addict. If you can’t describe, in writing, anything meaningful that you’re going to do online, then you simply don’t browse. At all.

Keep reducing the Facebook time by 10 minutes per week every two weeks until you don’t use Facebook.

All of this is designed to make your Facebook access location dependent, on a single “access terminal” inside your home. If you’re not at home, then you can’t use it, and if you are, there are boundaries and barriers in place to reduce ease of access and slow down your thought process so you actually become MINDFUL about using it. It’s the polar opposite of how most people currently use Facebook on their phones and tablets.

Once you’ve successfully whittled it down over the weeks to the point where you’re using Facebook on your desktop PC for no more than 10 minutes a week for two weeks, you’re probably ready to try the next step - dropping to ZERO minutes a week for two weeks. Once you’ve successfully done that, you need to login to Facebook for one final time, delete your account and then logout. Provided you don’t login again within 14 days of deletion (that’s what it was when I did it in 2012) then your account is permanently deleted and your addiction is cured. Hopefully.

Two things.

Firstly, if you can’t bring yourself to remove all traces of Facebook from your phone and/or tablet, then don’t bother going any further because your inner addict is lying to you. Deleting it from your phone/tablet is a massive first step and it’s MASSIVE for a reason. It is probably 95% of the act of cutting the chord. If you can do this and NOT reinstall the apps, you’re probably going to be successful overall.

Secondly, don’t think you’ll successfully customize this method by reducing the desktop PC browsing time by 30 seconds per week every 4 weeks or some nonsense. That’s not going to cut it. Again, it’s simply your addicted brain bargaining with you. It’s like saying you promise to take crystal meth every other day instead of daily. It’s not going to be successful.

You can extrapolate this approach to any other social media platform or to internet in general.

Remember the first step in any of this is to remove social media from your phone.

Good luck.

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« Reply #84 on: January 03, 2020, 04:00:57 AM »
I’ve had a nagging realisation that since late 2018, I’ve been wasting more and more time watching YouTube via the app on my phone.

Despite having no presence on Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter, and having deleted Reddit after a brief period, I allowed YouTube to fill the void. It’s probably the best and worst thing about the internet. Again, just like my post above, everything good about YouTube can be done from a desktop PC in 30 minutes a week (possibly longer if you’re using it to watch a film).

Everything bad about YouTube happens on my phone. I won’t detail it but I can end up watching videos about things that are random “interesting” and linked vaguely with my hobbies and interests but ultimately, I can’t remember anything about them 3 days later. This is just an ongoing cycle of massive time wasting. My theory is that most people (and me!) consume massive amounts of random information online, about all manner of things but rarely remember it and rarely apply it. It’s just addiction to consumption of information that probably already supports what you they and believe. It’s just a massive exercise in ongoing confirmation bias.

Anyway. As of the evening of 1 January 2020, I made my smartphone into a dumbphone as per Cal Newport’s advice - https://www.calnewport.com/blog/2019/12/06/the-advice-i-gave-my-students/

I uninstalled the apps for YouTube and Gmail, along with the web browsers Opera and Google Chrome.

I still have WhatsApp but only because my friends use it instead of SMS text messaging. Nobody I know uses it to share funny cat videos or anything pointless like that thank god.

Now my phone can only do texts, WhatsApp, calls and Google Maps if I occasionally need it for navigation occasionally in the car (but I rarely do).

My aim is for this to be a permanent and lasting change. I won’t be posting frequent updates, but I might write a few sentences every month or two.

All my web browsing will now be done at work or on my laptop at home, where to be honest, I feel like I’m in control of things and don’t need to be on this thread. It was YouTube and browsing on my phone that was making me as bad as anyone else. My aim is to spend the time I’ve freed up actually DOING my hobbies, rather than consuming limitless random information about them.
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« Reply #85 on: January 03, 2020, 08:36:51 PM »
Here's where I am at, based on historical usage on RescueTime (with rounding): 

In November, I spent 6 hours of every day on my phone or home computer.  In December, I knocked that down to 5.25 hours.  This doesn't pick up my work computer, but I also spent a small amount, maybe 5-10 hours, in November on wasteful sites on my work computer too.  I've since stopped that and just use my work computer productively.   

This does include all time total, including doing work stuff on my phone or home computer or useful time like Waze, streaming lectures from Youtube while I clean or writing in my new online journal about my habits and goals.  However, given that I have a desk job, productive or not, that's an enormous amount of total screen time.  Throw in TV (I've watched more now that the weather is colder) and it's an embarrassingly large part of my waking life.  If you ballpark 35 hours of screen work (excluding breaks and meetings) a week and 2 hours of TV a day, ballpark 13 hours a day total for a bad month like November.  Maybe that can be round down to 12 hours if you have multiple screens (doing budget with TV on in background).  Compare that to 7-8 hours of sleep and 4-5 hours of awake time without screens?  Ooopmh. 

It's useful to capture it as much as possible though, because it can be tricky to precisely sort out the "good" time and the "bad" time and some of what I am trying to do is just limit screen time total, and hopefully in that process the bad time falls first.  That's what happened so far, and I think the 45 minutes a day I saved in the last month came from some of the worst internet time.  I've stayed away from the big three sites I was trying to avoid now for almost a month.  Once or twice I've hit my goal of less than an hour on "infotainment" but usually it's closer to the two hour mark. 

My goal for January is knock that down another 45 minutes a day to a total of 4.5 hours a day.  That is still plenty of time to do my journal, budgeting, track my habits / food / steps, listen to youtube lectures while cleaning, etc. and also will give me a plenty comfortable budget of time to check in here or do other fun surfing. 
« Last Edit: January 03, 2020, 09:00:16 PM by blinx7 »

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« Reply #86 on: January 03, 2020, 08:46:33 PM »
Checking in after surfing my designated time today (in order to log off). I did 1 hour 10 minutes. And now it's time to read.
It's a few years late, but I'm finally starting the book "Hillbilly Elegy". I'm already hooked and am loving the feeling of losing myself in books again. It's been awhile.

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« Reply #87 on: January 03, 2020, 09:09:56 PM »
Checking in after surfing my designated time today (in order to log off). I did 1 hour 10 minutes. And now it's time to read.
It's a few years late, but I'm finally starting the book "Hillbilly Elegy". I'm already hooked and am loving the feeling of losing myself in books again. It's been awhile.

That was a great book.  Congratulations and enjoy, Luz!  i'm inspired to go download a new library book now too.

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« Reply #88 on: January 04, 2020, 06:51:51 PM »
It's time to log off from my designated surf time. I did 1 hour and 6 minutes, if we're being precise!
I don't feel ready to log off tonight because I have some things I want to look at still, but I'm reminding myself that I have an hour of surfing tomorrow yet. That makes it easier.
Time to chat with my husband, do a little exercise, and read my book before calling it a night.
Logging off.

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« Reply #89 on: January 05, 2020, 08:59:45 PM »
I took the final hour of my designated surf time for the week tonight. 1 hour and 6 minutes. I love having my surf time spread out over a few days rather than doing it in 1 chunk. I think I prioritize my time better and feel more able to let go when it's time to log off.

Next up: get some reading in.

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« Reply #90 on: January 06, 2020, 01:22:41 AM »
Ugh. averaged 6h30mins per day between laptop and mobile devices last week.

Did I forget to mention that I'm off this week on "holidays"?!?!


Super dissapointing. I used to be really good about my screen time (after first getting into Cal Newport's writing). After reading Deep Work I successfully completed a 365day streak of <60mins/day on my phone. Feels like that's gone down the drain at this point; hours upon hours of mindless surfing are my life now.


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« Reply #91 on: January 07, 2020, 05:47:58 AM »
I've done pretty well.

I'm happy with where I landed on my Facebook usage. It's not completely banned, but since I've hidden most things from my newsfeed, the only stuff I see are posts on an accounting group and Heather Cox Richardson (who posts one update per day summarizing the previous day's political news). I also chose not to hide my mom or husband, but they're not super active. Overall, Facebook isn't the temptation it once was because the content that my newsfeed can load is limited. I don't post on Facebook very often and haven't in a long time. I check it once or twice a day for a couple of minutes and it's done.

Since I control my workplace (self-employed), I blocked certain websites from being accessed at work. My employees will get a surprise if they try to access MMM!! My controls are easy to get around if someone really wanted to, but that's ok - simply seeing the message the site is blocked by the administration reminds me about my goals.

My husband borrowed my home laptop and I didn't know where it was for a week, so that limited my ability to post on the internet, restricting me to my phone (which I don't like to type on). That actually worked well for me and I think I will try to stop posting on any forums. So if this is my last update forever, then it means I was successful. For me, actually posting on forums is way more of a time suck than browsing.

This week, I am also going to try recommit to some of the other ideas in Deep Work. I may have done well with online stuff, but my work is filled with constant interruptions - phone, meetings, employees and email. With tax season here, it's a million times worse. I need to be more regimented with my time so that I block off Do Not Disturb time and force the other stuff into times where they belong.

Goodbye, forever. Maybe.

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« Reply #92 on: January 07, 2020, 12:48:51 PM »
I have found you a source of good sense, good humor, acuity, and professional savvy.  If this is goodbye, it is with regrets here. 

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« Reply #93 on: January 07, 2020, 12:49:31 PM »
I'm substituting in a printed book (Toni Morrison's Paradise) in place of the phone for the last-thing-before-sleep routine.

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« Reply #94 on: January 07, 2020, 03:10:13 PM »
This morning I was looking for an old photo on Facebook that I need for a project, when I got distracted by a comment a friend had posted on the photo. I haven't talked to him in 6 years and the last time I saw him, he wasn't doing well. I hovered over his name, and by the looks of his updated profile picture, he seems like he's in a really good place now. So I went to his photos to confirm. I'm thrilled that he appears to be doing well. But afterward I realized that I veered off my task-based internet usage. So I'm checking in here.

I probably get distracted from task-based things to click on surf things every week and a half or so now. I hope that if I keep checking in, I will be able to catch it when it happens sooner. I'm trying to make a clear separation in my mind between tasks and surfing. Hopefully my check ins will result in being able to better redirect the distractions to their designated surf time. I'm glad for the mini-update on my friend's life. But next time it can wait until Friday.

It's good to realize that my internet-use issues are: 1) urges to surf when it's not time (to avoid doing something else or to research an interesting idea), 2) logging off when my surf time is up, and 3) getting distracted by interesting links when doing something task-based on the net.

I also am getting in the habit of reaching for a book or magazine when I have unexpected pockets of downtime. I realized this week that I used to do that to fill my time before I started surfing so often. It's been a really satisfying new hobby. I'm hoping to expand to podcasts, print newspaper, videos (I have yet to see a number of oscar-winning ones), listening through albums of music, and puzzles. I also think origami and embroidery sound really relaxing. I like team sports, hiking, thrifting, cooking and singing, though I haven't done many of those just for fun in years. Someday I'd like to practice an instrument (the cello?). Listing all these make me realize how hobby-poor the last 6 years have been (when I let the internet take over my time).

Hobbies sound like a lot of work to get up and running compared to zoning out to the internet. But maybe this year will be a good time to invest in effortful leisure, like Newport talks about in Digital Minimalism. I think I can commit to reviving the following three hobbies this year (in addition to reading): hiking, Oscar movies, and embroidery.

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« Reply #95 on: January 09, 2020, 02:31:02 PM »
I also should add: perhaps I ought to have picked up more of a page turner. Ms. Morrison is rather, ahem, layered.

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« Reply #96 on: January 09, 2020, 07:53:58 PM »
I also should add: perhaps I ought to have picked up more of a page turner. Ms. Morrison is rather, ahem, layered.

Maybe best to start with something you're really looking forward to getting back to, yes.



A midweek update to mention two principles I'm trying to enact.

The first is related to Cal Newport's advice someone posted about upthread, about limiting the things your phone is able/allowed to do. I added three things to his list to come up with the following allowed activities on my phone:
  • calls
  • texts
  • maps
  • audio (music/podcasts)
  • calendar
  • quick budget (YNAB and venmo)
  • camera
When I tried to apply this concept to my laptop, I discovered that the ONLY useful thing I do on it every day is email. (I am a scientist, so a lot of my productivity is in the lab doing experiments.) Adding in more occasional requirements, I came to this list of allowed work computer activities:
  • email
  • writing, presentation, and data analysis
  • strictly work-related internet searching
My home computer is allowed for full budgeting, news, and social media.

The second principle is "out of sight, out of mind." On vacation, I often left my laptop in the basement and didn't even think about getting online all day.

I'm working on streamlining my screen use with both these principles in mind. I cleaned up my desktop and reorganized the apps on my phone (including deleting several), so I have to look in different places for things - this will help me interrupt old habits before they start. I took Chrome off of my toolbar and close it whenever I'm done with it, so it's not there to tempt me. I've also just moved into a secondary workspace down the hall, and I'm hoping to spend more time physically away from my computer.

But I added a few direct shortcuts to my desktop - my gmail inbox and my YNAB budget. (Might even wean myself off the latter at work.) Once I'm on the internet, I often feel like I'm forgetting to do one last thing - and then I check every website I ever use to see if that's what I'm forgetting. Typing in the URL bar triggers this, especially since Google autofills suggestions. So I'm hoping that direct shortcuts to the only websites I have reason to check will circumvent that spiral. Open the page I want, do what I came for, close it when I'm done.

Between all these efforts, I'm hoping to pretty drastically slash my screentime. (New Year's optimism!) For today, at least, I've logged about half as much screentime as the first three days of this week. I feel like I've made good slow progress since starting this thread, but it's time for me to stop being satisfied with baby steps.

My mantra for when I feel restless about these restrictions is "This is not an entertainment device!"

Luz

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Re: Own up to your internet usage
« Reply #97 on: January 10, 2020, 07:26:16 PM »
Tonight was my surf night. I did 1 hour and 20 minutes. I loitered past my hour in part because I forgot that I have an hour tomorrow and the next night, too. My goal tomorrow is to remind myself at the 1 hour mark that any unfinished surfing business can spill over into Sunday night.
Time for my side hustle and then some reading.

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Re: Own up to your internet usage
« Reply #98 on: January 10, 2020, 11:30:55 PM »
One of my New Year's resolutions is "no social media before noon". I still allow myself to check direct messages, and other Internet usage. So far I've made it 9/10 days.

At first it was hard to wait until lunchtime, but I seem to be breaking the cycle of checking social media whenever I have a moment of downtime, like when I'm waiting for elevators. Weirdly, even though I still allow myself to look at news sites in the morning (one of my other Internet time-wasters), I feel less urge to do so.

Luz

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Re: Own up to your internet usage
« Reply #99 on: January 11, 2020, 10:38:55 AM »
I was thinking of a future decision and had the urge to check what the internet had to say about the pros and cons of the different options involved. It feels so pressing and I want an answer now, but I actually likely have 4 years. So it's not urgent in the least. And I surf tonight anyway (but will probably forget to look up my burning question).

I'm enjoying the gauntlet challenges on the MMM forum, but staying up on the different threads seems to take up much of my surf time. And they feel more like tasks than surfing at this point, since they are linked to specific goals. But I know they'll also take up a lot of time from other areas if I allow a free-for-all. So maybe I'll take one of my surf hours to do the updates (though a few challenges-which I defined previously- relate to projects I do on other days of the week, so I update then). Next week I'll try one night for Facebook (and scroll through all updates before I comment on any one to decide which I want to prioritize), one for updating my challenges, and the last for miscellaneous (mostly google, mmm threads, a blog, and a newspaper).

Next right things: clean, exercise, then do paperwork and details.