Author Topic: Lose weight starting TODAY!!  (Read 32895 times)

DeniseNJ

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 778
Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« on: December 02, 2021, 07:52:37 AM »
We're starting right now. Today. We're not waiting until January or Monday or our birthdays or whatever. We're applying the same money lessons (and face punches) that have made us so financially successful to start "saving" calories right now.  Not someday when the stars align but this very moment. So if you are holding a donut, get up and toss it in the trash.

There are many many methods to weight loss and some work for some people, just like there are many money saving methods. But our wealth building tactics are based on maximizing each buck to get the most actual happiness and good while spending the least amount of money.  Making more money is great--really great--but it's the way we spend it that determines our wealth.

So along the same line, we can "save" calories by not eating them. Getting to burn more calories by exercising is really great and exercise is really good for you and important to your health--just like making more money is a good plan towards FI, as we all know.  But if you blow the dough you won't get wealthy. It's not a perfect analogy but let's not whine too much about it. 

My plan is to start off with a fixed number of calories, spend them wisely, and stop being fat.

Drop in with your plan. Make money comparisons when you can. Share your lessons and progress. Ask for help and offer advice. Let’s hold ourselves accountable as we work towards where we want to be and live our best lives in the process. Share tips and tricks, problems and progress, offer advice and encouragement (and the occasional face punch as needed).

ETA: https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/ask-a-mustachian/help-with-diet-and-weight-loss!-way-too-chunky!/
This is inspired by a post in Ask a Mustachian by TheAnonOne.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2021, 09:31:30 AM by DeniseNJ »

DeniseNJ

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 778
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2021, 07:59:41 AM »
I'll go first with an interesting analogy. You can save more money painlessly if you  take it out of your paycheck before you even get it.  You don't miss it as much if you never see it.

The same is true with calories.  Don't bring those tasty treats into your house and you won't miss them as much and be tempted to use them at 2 am when you can't sleep and there's a cheesecake calling your name from the fridge.

I started Monday afternoon at 172 lbs on my way towards 135 lbs.  5'4" female, extremely sedentary. I'm writing down everything I eat and the approximate calorie count and limiting to 1200 cal. per day.  So far so good. (I know it's only Thursday.)  Post your plan and progress, ask for help or offer advice.

MaybeBabyMustache

  • Walrus Stache
  • *******
  • Posts: 5470
    • My Wild Ride to FI
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2021, 08:01:49 AM »
I'm in. I do GREAT with consistent working out, but struggle with food. My biggest challenge is evening snacking. I have two teenage boys at home, and they are big time evening snackers. It then becomes very appealing for me to have a snack as well.

A few things I'm going to do differently:
-Consistently track my calories
-Brush my teeth after dinner. I just need evening snack to end
-Consistently fast before lunch

If I do those three, combined with the exercise, I'll be in great shape. Literally & metaphorically. ;-)

Askel

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 791
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2021, 10:24:58 AM »
Thanks @DeniseNJ

I'm in! An ill-fated attempt at a PhD kinda wrecked my lifestyle a few years back and put me north of 300. I really started to make progress on that after switching to full time bike commuting about a year ago.  271.2 last night and today I'm wearing pants with a 40" waist for the first time in a long time (long enough to get rid of all my old 40" pants. :/ )  Looking to get down in the 230s, possibly lower if maintainable. 

If successful, this will be my third time losing a significant amount of weight in my life, so I tend not to get too face punchy about weight issues- I've been stuck in the bottom of many of the pitfalls you can find along the way.   

Biggest of which is, much like how a budget alone doesn't make you wealthy, calorie counting alone won't make you thin.  I find I really have to re-orient my life to a certain degree. For me, this means being very, very active.  A full week of bike commuting is ~75 miles for me. And there's usually a couple of recreational rides thrown in as well. Waiting for real winter to get here so I can get more skiing in on top of that.   

Highbeam

  • Stubble
  • **
  • Posts: 133
  • Location: Wet side of Washington
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2021, 10:33:10 AM »
You can't outrun the fork. Just like you can always outspend the best income, exercising is at most a very small part of weight loss. Put the fork down! If you choose to exercise, do it for reasons other than calorie burn. You are burning plenty of calories just sitting there.

I can lose weight easily and I can gain weight easily, it's holding steady for the long term that is so difficult. Do not listen to people that think you need to make your "diet" a lifelong choice. No, that's crap, you need to lose weight using your diet and then maintain weight using a different diet (or at least with different intake levels). Otherwise you lose too much!   

I have had extremely good luck at effortless weight loss with cutting carbs and reducing the hours of the day that I eat to a particular large window. It's all about the insulin. Stop constantly snacking like a cow grazing in the field unless you want to look like a cow!
« Last Edit: December 02, 2021, 10:35:26 AM by Highbeam »

Morning Glory

  • Magnum Stache
  • ******
  • Posts: 4888
  • Location: The Garden Path
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2021, 10:47:20 AM »
I have another money analogy:
Most of the time, fad diets won't get you thin any more than fad investments will get you rich. Stick to boring old index funds and boring old eat less/move more, and you have a better chance of reaching your goal.

Metalcat

  • Senior Mustachian
  • ********
  • Posts: 17610
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2021, 10:51:10 AM »

Rusted Rose

  • Stubble
  • **
  • Posts: 232
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2021, 11:29:09 AM »
You can't outrun the fork. Just like you can always outspend the best income, exercising is at most a very small part of weight loss. Put the fork down! If you choose to exercise, do it for reasons other than calorie burn. You are burning plenty of calories just sitting there.

I can lose weight easily and I can gain weight easily, it's holding steady for the long term that is so difficult. Do not listen to people that think you need to make your "diet" a lifelong choice. No, that's crap, you need to lose weight using your diet and then maintain weight using a different diet (or at least with different intake levels). Otherwise you lose too much!   

I have had extremely good luck at effortless weight loss with cutting carbs and reducing the hours of the day that I eat to a particular large window. It's all about the insulin. Stop constantly snacking like a cow grazing in the field unless you want to look like a cow!

I agree with most of this, but I don't think you have to use a separate "diet" to lose before you change your everyday "diet" as in way of eating. I do agree with your converse though -- it is sure not about making a weight-loss diet that's meant to be temporary into a lifestyle! But mostly I've heard the opposite advice being given, which is to just start eating healthfully from the beginning and stay with it.

I also easily lost by just permanently switching what I ate ... like, 7 years ago? I slashed carbs when I realized they were the cause of my frequent hangry, and then later I found out I was naturally IF-ing before I actually heard of it. I'm good with occasional "real" carbs like rice and potatoes though.

I've stayed a 26 waist ever since then (at about 5'2"). I mean, I'm not perfect, we women do contend with  fluctuations, but I haven't changed size. I pay no attention to calories whatsoever. I haven't found maintaining difficult, but that's probably because I just don't have an interest in much junk/carbs/fried things/processed convenience stuff, and I read ingredients to avoid some (like industrial seed oils).

Honestly my vegetable intake has gone down too since I've paid more attention to arguments that make sense to me against eating so many plants. I'm open to more (real) info on that front as science develops. But, I want enough quality bioavailable protein, and since it wouldn't make sense for me to eat huge piles of food I'm going to make what I do eat count.

My level of exercise is lower than I consider ideal, but I aim to increase it not to lose but to gain its many other benefits for body and mind. It won't be a lot of focus on cardio though.

But I hesitate to tell people "just do what I do!" because many have additional concerns like sugar temptations or sweet tooth, emotional eating, sleep issues, food allergies or intolerances, other health things going on, or whatever factors that don't apply in my case. Or just different genetics and ancestry that can affect our direction. We all have to customize somewhat.

Anyway that's what worked for me and still does. Oh, and a lot of gurus insist that you have to be hungry a lot as you lose. Well ... I wasn't. I don't tolerate being hungry too well. As far as that goes, I'm a pansy first-worlder, yes I am.

DeniseNJ

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 778
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2021, 01:25:09 PM »
I find if you don't exercise you feel like crap and then eat like crap to feel better. Like when you are broke then you buy stuff to make you feel better.  I do think exercise will help you feel better and take better care of yourself, but significant weight loss is about eating fewer calories.  True not all calories are the same but they're close enough if you have over 30 lbs to lose.

I told a friend I was having some fruit for lunch.  She said, "Well fruit has a lot of sugar and carbs and calories." I said, "Fruit never made anybody fat.  If you are 50 lbs too fat, it wasn't the fruit, it was the donuts!"  You can fine tune your eating when you are close to your goal, but with so much to lose, focus on deserts and snacks.

If you cut carbs you'll lose weight.  But that's bc everything good and tasty is carbs.  All the cookies, cakes, and pies, are all white flour and sugar.

Rusted Rose

  • Stubble
  • **
  • Posts: 232
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2021, 04:31:32 PM »
everything good and tasty is carbs.

Oh, I don't know. I was going to list a bunch of tasty counterexamples, but eh, that might be sort of inappropriate in a weight loss thread... :)

But I do want to say, even if some of us think of things differently and use different methods, I think your money analogy is great!

Excess unhealthy eating, which is easy to be kind of unconscious about, really is a lot like being spendypants and can use a similar change of mindset applied to it.

Metalcat

  • Senior Mustachian
  • ********
  • Posts: 17610
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2021, 04:54:18 PM »
I find if you don't exercise you feel like crap and then eat like crap to feel better. Like when you are broke then you buy stuff to make you feel better.  I do think exercise will help you feel better and take better care of yourself, but significant weight loss is about eating fewer calories.  True not all calories are the same but they're close enough if you have over 30 lbs to lose.

I told a friend I was having some fruit for lunch.  She said, "Well fruit has a lot of sugar and carbs and calories." I said, "Fruit never made anybody fat.  If you are 50 lbs too fat, it wasn't the fruit, it was the donuts!"  You can fine tune your eating when you are close to your goal, but with so much to lose, focus on deserts and snacks.

If you cut carbs you'll lose weight.  But that's bc everything good and tasty is carbs.  All the cookies, cakes, and pies, are all white flour and sugar.

"Carbs" is such a huge range of foods, well beyond cakes, pies, and white flour and sugar.

I eat a high carb diet filled with vegetables, legumes, potatoes and grains.

I also disagree that cutting carbs will guarantee that someone loses weight. In my IF group, there are plenty of people doing keto and IF, and not losing weight.

I agree with you though that eating a whole bunch of empty calories isn't going to help with trying to lose weight. But moderating empty calories isn't the same as "cutting carbs".

I don't mean to be an ass, I just see so many people saying "you need to cut carbs to lose weight" and it drives me nuts.

nessness

  • Handlebar Stache
  • *****
  • Posts: 1029
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2021, 07:17:38 PM »
I'm in! I've gained about 20 pounds since March 2020. Most of that was from stress-eating during the time I was simultaneously working and caring for my young kids. I don't think I've kept gaining in the months since they went back to school, but I haven't lost any weight either. I've been struggling with the constant-access-to-the-fridge aspect of working from home.

I'm starting right now by making a cup of tea instead of having the beer I was wanting. 🙂

DeniseNJ

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 778
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2021, 06:41:55 AM »
Quote
I don't mean to be an ass, I just see so many people saying "you need to cut carbs to lose weight" and it drives me nuts.
lol--feel free to express yourself. :)
I think most overweight ppl eating too many "carbs" are actually eating too many muffins. No one ever got fat on fruit. Another big culprit is fried foods.

"In Defense of Food" says to eat food (actual whole foods, not processed junk), not too much (and no snacking all day), mostly plants.  These are good rules I think.

Here's another money analogy.  I used to just spend money on anything I saw that looked good.  I'd watch a youtube product review and was already ordering on amazon before the video was even over. Not big ticket items so I didn't think too much about it.  Until MMM.  All those dollars add up and when you stop spending them on crap, you don't even miss the crap you used to buy.

I also tend to mindlessly snack on whatever while waiting for water to boil or the microwave to ding.  A cookie or a few crackers or chips.  I'd walk into the kitchen to feed the dog and grab a handful or craisons or chocolate chips, or both.  Just mindless spending calories here and there on junk.  Those calories add up.  Now writing down everything I eat and keeping my calories under 1200, I want to make of most of each calorie, not waste it standing in front of an open fridge eating a stick of cheese.  Count each calorie bc each calorie counts.

Metalcat

  • Senior Mustachian
  • ********
  • Posts: 17610
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2021, 07:39:44 AM »
Quote
I don't mean to be an ass, I just see so many people saying "you need to cut carbs to lose weight" and it drives me nuts.
lol--feel free to express yourself. :)
I think most overweight ppl eating too many "carbs" are actually eating too many muffins. No one ever got fat on fruit. Another big culprit is fried foods.

"In Defense of Food" says to eat food (actual whole foods, not processed junk), not too much (and no snacking all day), mostly plants.  These are good rules I think.

Here's another money analogy.  I used to just spend money on anything I saw that looked good.  I'd watch a youtube product review and was already ordering on amazon before the video was even over. Not big ticket items so I didn't think too much about it.  Until MMM.  All those dollars add up and when you stop spending them on crap, you don't even miss the crap you used to buy.

I also tend to mindlessly snack on whatever while waiting for water to boil or the microwave to ding.  A cookie or a few crackers or chips.  I'd walk into the kitchen to feed the dog and grab a handful or craisons or chocolate chips, or both.  Just mindless spending calories here and there on junk.  Those calories add up.  Now writing down everything I eat and keeping my calories under 1200, I want to make of most of each calorie, not waste it standing in front of an open fridge eating a stick of cheese.  Count each calorie bc each calorie counts.

Yeah, I get that, and I didn't say anything against reducing processed, nutrient poor, empty calories foods.

But I think telling people to "cut carbs" when what you actually mean is to cut processed empty calorie foods is misleading and confusing.

I've had to rehab a number of people off of low carb diets that weren't working for them because they had been conditioned to think that "carbs" were evil and would stop them from losing weight.

They would keto for weeks, and then snap and gain weight.

Meanwhile, they would have been very well served by just focusing on eating more whole, nutrient dense foods and not worrying about carb grams.

As someone who has lost a lot of weight and kept it off for years, and has helped many people lose weight and keep it off, I really hate "diet culture" nonsense that just complicates eating and makes people fearful of foods and food groups.

I certainly tell people to dramatically cut back on highly processed, empty calories, but I do so by focusing on *adding* and filling up with whole foods, and teaching people to focus on how their body feels when they eat nutrient dense foods.

"Carbs" is not a stand in word for junk food, nor should it be. The vast majority of healthy foods are carbs. When we make people fearful of carbs, we make it very difficult for them to relearn how to eat well.

If someone loves a keto diet and does well on it long term, and isn't bothered by the social challenges of it, then that's great, there's nothing wrong with a keto diet for those it works for. It just doesn't work for most people, and that contributes to brutal yo-yo-ing.

For the record, I don't really eat sugar, I don't drink alcohol, and I don't eat a lot of highly processed food. I've probably had two muffins in the past 3 years. I eat exactly what you seem to mean by "low carb", but I eat TONS of carbs: lentils, chickpeas, beans, potatoes, quinoa, bulgur, rice, sorghum, squash, peppers, broccoli, etc.

If we're going to give advice to people who struggle with eating, it should be good advice that isn't misleading and confusing. I get what your intention is, but it could easily lead to someone cutting out a giant range of healthy food options right when they need to be learning how to eat and enjoy those foods.

DeniseNJ

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 778
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2021, 10:33:59 AM »
Personally, I don't cut out anything. Except snacking.  I'm writing everything down and the approximate calorie count and when I run out of calories, I'm done for the day.  But since I only have so many calories to spend, I want to make the very most out of each one.  I don't drink calories bc I love to eat and chew. I drink water, seltzer, hot or iced unsweetened tea and hot or iced coffee with a splash of milk or half and half that I estimate at 30 calories.

I'm not snacking in between meals and just getting used to the fact that it's normal to be hungry for some period during the day, so rather than "spoil" my dinner, I tell myself, "You're going to eat soon, you are fine, you're just hungry, it's normal."  If my meal is not enough I can add a whole bag of broccoli for less than 20 calories.  If I don't eat protein in the morning I feel hungry later so I'd rather eat 2 eggs for 140 cal. than a muffin, for half of my day's calorie budget.

I wouldn't overcomplicate it.  I can fine tune how I invest my calories later for maximum health.  Right now I have a caloric emergency.  I've consumed many more in the past years than I've used and I have to literally trim the fat.  So every calorie counts and the specifics don't matter to me that much.  Later, when I'm out of my fat/debt prison, I can fine tune how to invest my specific calories and where I want to get them to be as strong and healthy as possible.  The money analogies aren't exact, but you see where I'm going with it.

DeniseNJ

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 778
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2021, 01:12:21 PM »
Quote
My favourite exercise is going for walks while listening to really good audiobooks. Wanting to hear what's next really motivated me to get outside and walk, and continue walking.
Quoting MalCat from another thread bc it's such a good idea.  I'm going to try it.  Then you can't find out what happens next unless you are off your butt.  Nice.

Askel

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 791
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2021, 02:39:37 PM »
Walking has to be one of the most underrated exercises. It not often super exciting, and the number of calories burned in comparison to something like running for the same given time period is often pitifully small, but I think it really helps pick up the metabolism in difficult to measure ways and requires very little investment in equipment or advanced skills.   

Metalcat

  • Senior Mustachian
  • ********
  • Posts: 17610
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2021, 02:50:01 PM »
Walking has to be one of the most underrated exercises. It not often super exciting, and the number of calories burned in comparison to something like running for the same given time period is often pitifully small, but I think it really helps pick up the metabolism in difficult to measure ways and requires very little investment in equipment or advanced skills.

But calories burned per same distance covered are very similar. So walking is no less efficient than running in terms of calories burned per unit of movement, it's just slower. But if you aren't in a rush, then who cares? And if you don't like running, then 5km of running might be really unpleasant and feel like it takes forever vs 5km of walking, which is easy and doesn't feel very long.

It's not really about the time something takes, it's about the increments of motivation and energy that it takes, and walking uses up a lot less increments of motivation in a day than running does if the person doesn't like running.

For me, walking with an audiobook is an alternative to watching TV, so it's not even coded as work or exercise by my brain, but as relaxing down time. Therefore it takes no motivation to do it. I never feel like "ugh, I don't feel like walking today".

That said, I can't walk or exercise with my legs in any capacity anymore now that they're mangled, and I can tell you, I don't miss the elliptical, but I do miss going for walks as an entertaining leisure activity.

E.T.

  • Bristles
  • ***
  • Posts: 413
  • Age: 35
  • Location: U.S.A.
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2021, 07:27:43 AM »
My issue is that my weight doesn't fluctuate except in short periods of stress or illness where it's gone up. I counted calories carefully for a couple of years, with a food scale and everything and it didn't help me lose any weight. My weight doesn't change at all in the years between major events, I just get stuck at whatever the new higher baseline is after something bad happens. I know exactly when I've gained weight and how much each time bc it's never happened to me gradually, it's always in response to an ordeal. I'm going to try training for a half marathon that I'll run next year and see if that does anything for me.

boarder42

  • Walrus Stache
  • *******
  • Posts: 9332
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2021, 07:32:07 AM »
Walking has to be one of the most underrated exercises. It not often super exciting, and the number of calories burned in comparison to something like running for the same given time period is often pitifully small, but I think it really helps pick up the metabolism in difficult to measure ways and requires very little investment in equipment or advanced skills.

But calories burned per same distance covered are very similar. So walking is no less efficient than running in terms of calories burned per unit of movement, it's just slower. But if you aren't in a rush, then who cares? And if you don't like running, then 5km of running might be really unpleasant and feel like it takes forever vs 5km of walking, which is easy and doesn't feel very long.

It's not really about the time something takes, it's about the increments of motivation and energy that it takes, and walking uses up a lot less increments of motivation in a day than running does if the person doesn't like running.

For me, walking with an audiobook is an alternative to watching TV, so it's not even coded as work or exercise by my brain, but as relaxing down time. Therefore it takes no motivation to do it. I never feel like "ugh, I don't feel like walking today".

That said, I can't walk or exercise with my legs in any capacity anymore now that they're mangled, and I can tell you, I don't miss the elliptical, but I do miss going for walks as an entertaining leisure activity.

walking very quickly can also burn more calories per distance traveled than jogging or running.  and its better on the joints. 

I'm in this challenge i need to be around 200 or less from 230ish by feburary is my goal.  not drinking during week days and only eating from 11-7 or noon to 8 is my current plan.  I stay away from sugars and bread like products and do pretty well when i actually focus on it.

Metalcat

  • Senior Mustachian
  • ********
  • Posts: 17610
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2021, 08:25:07 AM »
My issue is that my weight doesn't fluctuate except in short periods of stress or illness where it's gone up. I counted calories carefully for a couple of years, with a food scale and everything and it didn't help me lose any weight. My weight doesn't change at all in the years between major events, I just get stuck at whatever the new higher baseline is after something bad happens. I know exactly when I've gained weight and how much each time bc it's never happened to me gradually, it's always in response to an ordeal. I'm going to try training for a half marathon that I'll run next year and see if that does anything for me.

I got to a point where my metabolism slowed so much that I could barely lose weight at all without risking malnutrition, and I gained incredibly easily. I had to eat under 1200 calories per day the vast majority of days just to maintain my weight, and I wasn't even at my slimmest, I was at the top end of healthy BMI range.

It was extremely frustrating as I had never had trouble losing weight before. I quit alcohol completely and that helped me not gain, but overall, I was kind of petrified about what was happening to my metabolism, plus I felt sluggish all the time, but with my health issues, that could have been caused by anything.

My neurologist prescribed intermittent fasting for nerve pain, but I was highly motivated because there's decent research showing that it can help boost a sluggish metabolism. It's been nearly 3 months and I'm able to eat more calories, thank god, and am back to losing weight normally in line with how I would expect to based on my eating.

So maybe consider trying IF, I know it's been a huge energy boost for me. Everyone reacts differently, but my body jumps into ketosis extremely easily, so the energy boosting effect was pretty much immediate for me. I find it really easy and quite enjoyable.

E.T.

  • Bristles
  • ***
  • Posts: 413
  • Age: 35
  • Location: U.S.A.
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2021, 08:48:34 AM »
My issue is that my weight doesn't fluctuate except in short periods of stress or illness where it's gone up. I counted calories carefully for a couple of years, with a food scale and everything and it didn't help me lose any weight. My weight doesn't change at all in the years between major events, I just get stuck at whatever the new higher baseline is after something bad happens. I know exactly when I've gained weight and how much each time bc it's never happened to me gradually, it's always in response to an ordeal. I'm going to try training for a half marathon that I'll run next year and see if that does anything for me.

I got to a point where my metabolism slowed so much that I could barely lose weight at all without risking malnutrition, and I gained incredibly easily. I had to eat under 1200 calories per day the vast majority of days just to maintain my weight, and I wasn't even at my slimmest, I was at the top end of healthy BMI range.

It was extremely frustrating as I had never had trouble losing weight before. I quit alcohol completely and that helped me not gain, but overall, I was kind of petrified about what was happening to my metabolism, plus I felt sluggish all the time, but with my health issues, that could have been caused by anything.

My neurologist prescribed intermittent fasting for nerve pain, but I was highly motivated because there's decent research showing that it can help boost a sluggish metabolism. It's been nearly 3 months and I'm able to eat more calories, thank god, and am back to losing weight normally in line with how I would expect to based on my eating.

So maybe consider trying IF, I know it's been a huge energy boost for me. Everyone reacts differently, but my body jumps into ketosis extremely easily, so the energy boosting effect was pretty much immediate for me. I find it really easy and quite enjoyable.

That metabolism sounds really tough, I'm glad you're able to eat more calories now. When I'm not in an intense stress or illness time, my metabolism actually maintains whatever my new weight is and it's very hard for me to change my weight up or down. It's like it adjusts to whatever my new normal is and I'm stuck at that new stable baseline even if my eating patterns haven't changed. At least it doesn't raise gradually. I have tried IF before too, that's a good suggestion. I may try it again if running doesn't make an impact, maybe both together will help me more.

I've been thinking about it a lot today and I'm wondering if maybe I'm just moving a lot less during those short term hardships. Intense stress and illness usually cause me a lot of physical pain, so maybe I move so little at those times that my normally fine metabolism can't keep the weight off. That's why I'm trying to commit myself to a half marathon. I figure if it doesn't work and I'm still the same weight at the end of it, at least I'll be able to run around and be more active and healthy.

former player

  • Walrus Stache
  • *******
  • Posts: 8905
  • Location: Avalon
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2021, 08:53:14 AM »
Would you mind changing the thread title to "Lose weight starting TODAY!!"

Sorry to be fussy about this.  You can change the thread title by modifying it in the first post.

DeniseNJ

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 778
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2021, 09:33:00 AM »
Would you mind changing the thread title to "Lose weight starting TODAY!!"

Sorry to be fussy about this.  You can change the thread title by modifying it in the first post.

Sure, done.  I was going to call it "I'm fat and so are you!" but some of us need a gentler approach. :)

E.T.

  • Bristles
  • ***
  • Posts: 413
  • Age: 35
  • Location: U.S.A.
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2021, 09:38:36 AM »
Would you mind changing the thread title to "Lose weight starting TODAY!!"

Sorry to be fussy about this.  You can change the thread title by modifying it in the first post.

Sure, done.  I was going to call it "I'm fat and so are you!" but some of us need a gentler approach. :)

Haha I like the alternate title but I appreciate the need for gentleness. :D

DeniseNJ

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 778
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2021, 09:41:04 AM »
Apparently, according to dd, one of my catch phrases is, "You don't need that, put it back!"  I told her I was shopping at TJMaxx for Christmas presents and it was so foreign for me to look around for stuff to buy that I kept saying to myself, "You don't need that, put it back!"  Only when I got to that part she said it right along with me like she read my mind.  I guess I say that a lot to myself and others when browsing in stores.  I hate to browse, just want to get what I need and get out so I don't waste money on stuff I don't need.

I am going to start a similar mantra with food.  I find myself standing in the kitchen, saying to myself, "What should I eat?"  And then I say, "Nothing!! You don't need to eat anything," and walk out.  I'm used to eating something every time I walk into the kitchen, like even a handful of chocolate chips or a few crackers.  I'm trying to get used to walking out "empty-handed."  I tell that to a friend who is a shopper. Get used to walking out of stores empty handed. If they don't have what you need then you don't have to buy something bc you're there.  If you walk out with just your money in your pocket then that's just fine.  So now I get my water and walk out with no snacks.  It's taking some getting used to but it's helping.

tygertygertyger

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 875
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2021, 10:02:18 AM »
I'll join. I think I've been gaining a couple pounds a year for several years, but over covid it was probably 15.

I've lost one pound a month for the last four months. While that's progress - and I'm happy with it - I wouldn't mind a slight speed-up, maybe even double.

I doubt I'll ever count calories, so my plan is to eat a lot of delicious soup and fruits and veg to fill me up, and continue walking a lot.

I had a line on a free fancy treadmill, but turns out it wouldn't fit in our space, so oh well. We're still going to set up a workout area in our new house, mostly for my partner, but hopefully I'll use it too. I just get bored very easily.

Luckily, we have a winter dog, so we'll spend lots of time walking trails over the winter, which should help. And he's pretty intent on mapping our new town, so our walks are longer than ever.

 

nessness

  • Handlebar Stache
  • *****
  • Posts: 1029
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2021, 10:10:25 AM »
My kids and I went to watch a marathon this weekend, and now my 7-year-old is obsessed with the idea of running a marathon. Obviously I told her no, but I agreed to train and do a 5k with her. I haven't run at all for a few years, so I'm going to try the Couch to 5k program. My goal is to do that 3 days a week and hot yoga 3 days a week.

seemsright

  • Bristles
  • ***
  • Posts: 493
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2021, 09:37:45 PM »
Life has been insane for the last few years. And the last thing I have to achieve is managing my weight. I am sitting around 205 and I would like to get down to around 165. When life is jiving just how I think it should go, and nothing gets in my way I do really well. The second that life throws curve balls, and I have to parent, and as hubby starts to go down his side gig rabbit hole I seem to get lost in the shuffle.

My kid is now old enough to handle me doing my thing for a while. But I find food really hard. When I get stressed and anxious my hunger goes through the roof. And I HATE being hungry.

Working out is not a problem, I tend to work out way too much. Before I broke my hand, I was training for a Triathlon and a marathon. But with having to have surgery again in Jan and another 16 week recovery both of those goals are put on hold. I still do not have my grip back and as it is getting colder my hand just hurts so lifting heavy is just not a option right now. I am trying to get to the gym most days.

I am working on lifestyle change. I am not going to get this weight off if I cannot get a handle on stress. I find weight is always a side effect to what is going on in life. I am trying to get that in order.

Thank you for a space to not feel so alone. 

DeniseNJ

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 778
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2021, 07:44:20 AM »
So I have this little book where I write down my morning weight and everything I eat and the calories.  Each day I keep it to 1200 or below.  I call it my Little Fat Book. It's pink with flowers with a pink ribbon to mark the pages and a pink elastic to keep it closed.  I take it with me when I go out or keep it in the kitchen with my little digital food scale.

I recommend a food scale so you don't have to measure and dirty your measuring cups and spoons. Last night I was able to measure 12 grams of spray whipped cream into my hot cocoa.  That'd be hard to measure in tablespoons.  A food scale cost less than 20 bucks.  We have always had one since my daughter has type 1 diabetes.  They shouldn't let you leave the hospital as a diabetic without a cheap food scale.  I put the whole mug of hot cocoa on the scale and zero'd it out and sprayed the whipped cream right into it and the grams showed up on the screen.  Then I wrote down the calories in my little fat book--15 calories per 6 gram serving, total 30 calories.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2021, 07:57:13 AM by DeniseNJ »

DeniseNJ

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 778
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2021, 07:54:52 AM »
Quote
Thank you for a space to not feel so alone.

Alone? No, you are definitely not alone.  Being an overstressed parent and struggling with weight and diet is practically a majority group. You definitely stand out in your awesome exercise routines though.

Yes, work on your lifestyle and stress reduction.  But also write down what you eat and reduce your calories. Being hungry sometimes is normal, it's not an emergency even though you may start to panic when you get hungry.  Remind yourself that you are going to eat your next meal soon.  Plan an nice filling delicious meal within the allotted calories you've set aside.

I totally stress eat too.  I think lot of ppl do.  If you can't hold out until your next meal, have a low calorie food or drink. Veggies come to mind. Or a pickle.  I also try to find something else to do with my hands like knit or paint my nails.  Some ppl try to get out of the house and away from food.  I know it's hard. If it were easy, everybody would do it.  But it's just like getting out of debt, making do with what you have, enjoying each calorie and getting the most out of each calorie.

Also, read through some MMM articles, and sub food and calories where they talk about money and see if you can apply some of those lessons.  So glad you're here.

boarder42

  • Walrus Stache
  • *******
  • Posts: 9332
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2021, 08:00:24 AM »
Quote
Thank you for a space to not feel so alone.

Alone? No, you are definitely not alone.  Being an overstressed parent and struggling with weight and diet is practically a majority group. You definitely stand out in your awesome exercise routines though.

Yes, work on your lifestyle and stress reduction.  But also write down what you eat and reduce your calories. Being hungry sometimes is normal, it's not an emergency even though you may start to panic when you get hungry.  Remind yourself that you are going to eat your next meal soon.  Plan an nice filling delicious meal within the allotted calories you've set aside.

I totally stress eat too.  I think lot of ppl do.  If you can't hold out until your next meal, have a low calorie food or drink. Veggies come to mind. Or a pickle.  I also try to find something else to do with my hands like knit or paint my nails.  Some ppl try to get out of the house and away from food.  I know it's hard. If it were easy, everybody would do it.  But it's just like getting out of debt, making do with what you have, enjoying each calorie and getting the most out of each calorie.

Also, read through some MMM articles, and sub food and calories where they talk about money and see if you can apply some of those lessons.  So glad you're here.

being hungry sometimes is actually thirst as well - boredom thirst and hunger cause similar feelings for humans. 

Metalcat

  • Senior Mustachian
  • ********
  • Posts: 17610
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2021, 08:03:02 AM »
Life has been insane for the last few years. And the last thing I have to achieve is managing my weight. I am sitting around 205 and I would like to get down to around 165. When life is jiving just how I think it should go, and nothing gets in my way I do really well. The second that life throws curve balls, and I have to parent, and as hubby starts to go down his side gig rabbit hole I seem to get lost in the shuffle.

My kid is now old enough to handle me doing my thing for a while. But I find food really hard. When I get stressed and anxious my hunger goes through the roof. And I HATE being hungry.

Working out is not a problem, I tend to work out way too much. Before I broke my hand, I was training for a Triathlon and a marathon. But with having to have surgery again in Jan and another 16 week recovery both of those goals are put on hold. I still do not have my grip back and as it is getting colder my hand just hurts so lifting heavy is just not a option right now. I am trying to get to the gym most days.

I am working on lifestyle change. I am not going to get this weight off if I cannot get a handle on stress. I find weight is always a side effect to what is going on in life. I am trying to get that in order.

Thank you for a space to not feel so alone.

I was losing weight from obese to very lean at a very crazy time in my life, and doing so required me to be really honest with myself about my capacity.

I had to be realistic about my ability to stay on top of cooking and eating if I wanted my weight to be able to weather the storm of life's periodic insanity.

An eating plan that wasn't resilient against chaos was an eating plan destined to periodically fail.

As a result, I have a cooking service that steps in and can make my meals for a week whenever I lose capacity to do so. I have a set of very easy meals set up in my Paprika app for when I have a bit of bandwidth, but not a ton. And I have a ton of partially processed meals that are stupid easy to make, like pho where I just need to heat up a premade broth and drop in a few ingredients that require no prep.

I set up my life so that the need for convenience never details my level of self care.

I'm never stuck between: spend time and energy in the kitchen cooking a nutritious meal VS order pizza and stuff my face with comforting melted cheese. Because when I'm drained, cooking is never going to win that fight.

So be realistic about your available resources for feeding yourself and your family.

Where exactly is your plan going off the rails, and how can you incorporate a fuse in the system that breaks instead of the whole system crashing?

seemsright

  • Bristles
  • ***
  • Posts: 493
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2021, 09:33:45 AM »
Life has been insane for the last few years. And the last thing I have to achieve is managing my weight. I am sitting around 205 and I would like to get down to around 165. When life is jiving just how I think it should go, and nothing gets in my way I do really well. The second that life throws curve balls, and I have to parent, and as hubby starts to go down his side gig rabbit hole I seem to get lost in the shuffle.

My kid is now old enough to handle me doing my thing for a while. But I find food really hard. When I get stressed and anxious my hunger goes through the roof. And I HATE being hungry.

Working out is not a problem, I tend to work out way too much. Before I broke my hand, I was training for a Triathlon and a marathon. But with having to have surgery again in Jan and another 16 week recovery both of those goals are put on hold. I still do not have my grip back and as it is getting colder my hand just hurts so lifting heavy is just not a option right now. I am trying to get to the gym most days.

I am working on lifestyle change. I am not going to get this weight off if I cannot get a handle on stress. I find weight is always a side effect to what is going on in life. I am trying to get that in order.

Thank you for a space to not feel so alone.

I was losing weight from obese to very lean at a very crazy time in my life, and doing so required me to be really honest with myself about my capacity.

I had to be realistic about my ability to stay on top of cooking and eating if I wanted my weight to be able to weather the storm of life's periodic insanity.

An eating plan that wasn't resilient against chaos was an eating plan destined to periodically fail.

As a result, I have a cooking service that steps in and can make my meals for a week whenever I lose capacity to do so. I have a set of very easy meals set up in my Paprika app for when I have a bit of bandwidth, but not a ton. And I have a ton of partially processed meals that are stupid easy to make, like pho where I just need to heat up a premade broth and drop in a few ingredients that require no prep.

I set up my life so that the need for convenience never details my level of self care.

I'm never stuck between: spend time and energy in the kitchen cooking a nutritious meal VS order pizza and stuff my face with comforting melted cheese. Because when I'm drained, cooking is never going to win that fight.

So be realistic about your available resources for feeding yourself and your family.

Where exactly is your plan going off the rails, and how can you incorporate a fuse in the system that breaks instead of the whole system crashing?

I have been trying to figure out what 'it' is that is derailing me. I think it is perfectionism and having to adjust to the needs of my family and I always get to be last. I know this is a typical mom thing.  I am also trying to adjust to DD doing sports, and homework is all ready the vain of my existence. I hated it in school and now it is even worst with a 7th grader. I am working on teaching time management skills so that homework is not a major impact to our life.

I am starting to learn that I do not need to be last. And I am starting to put safety nets around me. I am trying to learn that I do not need to do everything. And that I can do things that help me bring down my stress level. Meditation, and yoga seem to be helping. My goal is to deal with the stress and perfectionism.

This is a project of a life time that constantly moving parts and trying to adjust and being flexible enough is what I get to learn. I know that this only going to make me a better person. The best part about taking this on is yes I want to drop weight, but the weight is a side effect to the existing problem.

Metalcat

  • Senior Mustachian
  • ********
  • Posts: 17610
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2021, 09:59:22 AM »
Life has been insane for the last few years. And the last thing I have to achieve is managing my weight. I am sitting around 205 and I would like to get down to around 165. When life is jiving just how I think it should go, and nothing gets in my way I do really well. The second that life throws curve balls, and I have to parent, and as hubby starts to go down his side gig rabbit hole I seem to get lost in the shuffle.

My kid is now old enough to handle me doing my thing for a while. But I find food really hard. When I get stressed and anxious my hunger goes through the roof. And I HATE being hungry.

Working out is not a problem, I tend to work out way too much. Before I broke my hand, I was training for a Triathlon and a marathon. But with having to have surgery again in Jan and another 16 week recovery both of those goals are put on hold. I still do not have my grip back and as it is getting colder my hand just hurts so lifting heavy is just not a option right now. I am trying to get to the gym most days.

I am working on lifestyle change. I am not going to get this weight off if I cannot get a handle on stress. I find weight is always a side effect to what is going on in life. I am trying to get that in order.

Thank you for a space to not feel so alone.

I was losing weight from obese to very lean at a very crazy time in my life, and doing so required me to be really honest with myself about my capacity.

I had to be realistic about my ability to stay on top of cooking and eating if I wanted my weight to be able to weather the storm of life's periodic insanity.

An eating plan that wasn't resilient against chaos was an eating plan destined to periodically fail.

As a result, I have a cooking service that steps in and can make my meals for a week whenever I lose capacity to do so. I have a set of very easy meals set up in my Paprika app for when I have a bit of bandwidth, but not a ton. And I have a ton of partially processed meals that are stupid easy to make, like pho where I just need to heat up a premade broth and drop in a few ingredients that require no prep.

I set up my life so that the need for convenience never details my level of self care.

I'm never stuck between: spend time and energy in the kitchen cooking a nutritious meal VS order pizza and stuff my face with comforting melted cheese. Because when I'm drained, cooking is never going to win that fight.

So be realistic about your available resources for feeding yourself and your family.

Where exactly is your plan going off the rails, and how can you incorporate a fuse in the system that breaks instead of the whole system crashing?

I have been trying to figure out what 'it' is that is derailing me. I think it is perfectionism and having to adjust to the needs of my family and I always get to be last. I know this is a typical mom thing.  I am also trying to adjust to DD doing sports, and homework is all ready the vain of my existence. I hated it in school and now it is even worst with a 7th grader. I am working on teaching time management skills so that homework is not a major impact to our life.

I am starting to learn that I do not need to be last. And I am starting to put safety nets around me. I am trying to learn that I do not need to do everything. And that I can do things that help me bring down my stress level. Meditation, and yoga seem to be helping. My goal is to deal with the stress and perfectionism.

This is a project of a life time that constantly moving parts and trying to adjust and being flexible enough is what I get to learn. I know that this only going to make me a better person. The best part about taking this on is yes I want to drop weight, but the weight is a side effect to the existing problem.

Yes, this is VERY common among mothers and cited frequently as a source of plan failure. The expectation that they *should* be able to manage everything, including feeding themselves means that they never realistically plan for when they can't actually handle everything, because instead of compassionately planning for when things will be too much, they just double down on the pressure and shame to try and "motivate" themselves to magically have more bandwidth than they've ever realistically had. I see it a lot.

Here's where I reframe it as thinking like an executive, not thinking like a mom. When you think like a mom, you think that you *should* be able to do everything and that you're somehow a failure if you don't. When you think like an executive, you have no choice but to be realistic as to how far you can push the various members of your team because you can't afford systemic failure.

You, as a member of your family team require just as much care and monitoring as the rest of them. Putting yourself last doesn't serve any of the team's long term well being, it makes one of most productive members of the team, you, less functional.

Your value as a key team member isn't how much of your own well being you're willing to neglect and give away. Your value is what you bring to the table, and you can bring *more* value by taking care of yourself as a team resource.

A lot of mothers see self care as taking something away from the rest of their family members, as if their time and energy is a limited resource and diverting some to themselves is basically stealing from their loved ones. But this is total toxic nonsense. For you to give your family the MOST of yourself requires you to take the BEST care of yourself possible.

Because your capacity is not a static thing. The more you neglect yourself, the lower your capacity will be.

All kids do better with happy, healthy parents. Taking care of your own needs IS the most emotionally generous thing you can do for them.

Cyrddin

  • 5 O'Clock Shadow
  • *
  • Posts: 23
  • Location: Midwest - USA
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2021, 10:05:35 AM »
I've been on this track for a little over 3 months now (lost about 13 pounds so far; I'm aiming for slow and steady).  For those that want to track calories and prefer to not just keep a notebook, I suggest the LoseIt app.  The free version works well for tracking.  YMMV of course, but the act of tracking and making that part of my daily routine, has kept me accountable and helped me stay on track.

Also, and I hesitate to mention this on the MMM forums, as we all know there are plenty low/no cost ways to exercise and buying something isn't necessary, but for any gamers out there that may already own a Nintendo Switch, I recommend Ring Fit Adventure.  For me, the gamification of exercise helps me keep at it and not get bored the way I often do with a treadmill and it can be customized for almost any fitness level.  My cardiovascular health has certainly improved.

Good luck everyone!

Metalcat

  • Senior Mustachian
  • ********
  • Posts: 17610
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2021, 10:11:16 AM »
I've been on this track for a little over 3 months now (lost about 13 pounds so far; I'm aiming for slow and steady).  For those that want to track calories and prefer to not just keep a notebook, I suggest the LoseIt app.  The free version works well for tracking.  YMMV of course, but the act of tracking and making that part of my daily routine, has kept me accountable and helped me stay on track.

Also, and I hesitate to mention this on the MMM forums, as we all know there are plenty low/no cost ways to exercise and buying something isn't necessary, but for any gamers out there that may already own a Nintendo Switch, I recommend Ring Fit Adventure.  For me, the gamification of exercise helps me keep at it and not get bored the way I often do with a treadmill and it can be customized for almost any fitness level.  My cardiovascular health has certainly improved.

Good luck everyone!

We're not even remotely anti-spend here, and although most of us would heavily advocate that fitness can be found for free, if you've truly found that investing in certain fitness options made you more active, I don't think anyone here would discourage you sharing that.

What is discouraged is the very common practice of people spending a fortune on diet/fitness resources and basically setting their money on fire because they never actually used the resource. Sadly, this is the norm, not the exception.

tygertygertyger

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 875
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2021, 10:26:03 AM »
I've been on this track for a little over 3 months now (lost about 13 pounds so far; I'm aiming for slow and steady).  For those that want to track calories and prefer to not just keep a notebook, I suggest the LoseIt app.  The free version works well for tracking.  YMMV of course, but the act of tracking and making that part of my daily routine, has kept me accountable and helped me stay on track.

Also, and I hesitate to mention this on the MMM forums, as we all know there are plenty low/no cost ways to exercise and buying something isn't necessary, but for any gamers out there that may already own a Nintendo Switch, I recommend Ring Fit Adventure.  For me, the gamification of exercise helps me keep at it and not get bored the way I often do with a treadmill and it can be customized for almost any fitness level.  My cardiovascular health has certainly improved.

Good luck everyone!

I'm glad you mentioned that! We do have a switch. I used to use WiiFit, but it's been a while. The gamification absolutely helps me too - I enjoyed doing the Darebee Hero workout, but since it's literally just a paper story, I can see the switch game being a lot more exciting.

mm1970

  • Senior Mustachian
  • ********
  • Posts: 10935
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2021, 10:52:28 AM »
Quote
I had to be realistic about my ability to stay on top of cooking and eating if I wanted my weight to be able to weather the storm of life's periodic insanity.

An eating plan that wasn't resilient against chaos was an eating plan destined to periodically fail.

Good points.  When I was losing baby weight #2, there was no way I could care for 2 kids, have a full time job, and cook from scratch in a way that would allow me to lose weight.  It was just too much.

So, I threw out the grocery budget that year.  I bought everything I could prepped and pre-measured.  Individual yogurt cups, pre-washed and cut vegetables, small amounts of healthy prepared foods.  My grocery budget doubled that year but I lost the weight.

Quote
I have been trying to figure out what 'it' is that is derailing me. I think it is perfectionism and having to adjust to the needs of my family and I always get to be last. I know this is a typical mom thing.  I am also trying to adjust to DD doing sports, and homework is all ready the vain of my existence. I hated it in school and now it is even worst with a 7th grader. I am working on teaching time management skills so that homework is not a major impact to our life.

Oof, 7th grade is a HARD age.  I mean, it really is a lot of work to teach your kids time management skills.  We ended up teaching our son that in 9th grade.  I really had no idea until then that he was getting straight A's without studying.  Yah, high school didn't work that way.  I can see why it takes up a lot of time.

Likewise, it's when you want the 7th grader to make their own damn food.  But teaching them to make their own damn food...ugh.  I have learned that my teenager is lazy, but there are some foods he will willingly eat and prepare himself, and I make sure I have those on hand at all times.

Quote
I recommend Ring Fit Adventure.
Ooh, this is a good recommendation. We have this, and used it a LOT during COVID distance learning.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2021, 02:09:08 PM by mm1970 »

DeniseNJ

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 778
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2021, 11:22:57 AM »
I buy lots of pre-washed or bagged or portioned foods.  Aldi has made that possible without going broke.  Bags of salad, bags of already shredded cheese, bags of frozen veg to microwave in the bags, and even bags of brown rice. I want to dirty as few dishes as possible.  Yes it's more expensive but at Aldi it's not too bad.  I'll have a bag of brown rice and a bag of broccoli for dinner and call it a night.  Just a few min in the microwave and no dirty dishes.

I just had a huge salad and cut and weighed food as I put it in the bowl.  Mandarin oranges, cherry tomatoes, strawberries, raspberries (they were on sale), a small avocado, 28 grams of goat cheese, 2 T of dressing that I had drained most of the oil out of the bottle (I usually just make my own with vinegar, a splash of juice, salt, pepper, garlic powder, onion powder).  The whole bowl was 437 calories.  My big salad bowls were in the dishwasher so I had to use a serving bowl and filled it up!  It was huge, no cooking, no dirty cookware or measuring cups.

The frozen bags of broccoli at Aldi are less than a dollar.  Totally worth checking them out for bagged food that's clean and cut with little prep and no dirty dishes.

boarder42

  • Walrus Stache
  • *******
  • Posts: 9332
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2021, 12:12:16 PM »
fresh shreaded cheese is amazing compared to pre shreaded cheese though-

just did 10 mins of yoga - that was interesting to see how weak i've gotten. 

seemsright

  • Bristles
  • ***
  • Posts: 493
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2021, 12:40:37 PM »
Life has been insane for the last few years. And the last thing I have to achieve is managing my weight. I am sitting around 205 and I would like to get down to around 165. When life is jiving just how I think it should go, and nothing gets in my way I do really well. The second that life throws curve balls, and I have to parent, and as hubby starts to go down his side gig rabbit hole I seem to get lost in the shuffle.

My kid is now old enough to handle me doing my thing for a while. But I find food really hard. When I get stressed and anxious my hunger goes through the roof. And I HATE being hungry.

Working out is not a problem, I tend to work out way too much. Before I broke my hand, I was training for a Triathlon and a marathon. But with having to have surgery again in Jan and another 16 week recovery both of those goals are put on hold. I still do not have my grip back and as it is getting colder my hand just hurts so lifting heavy is just not a option right now. I am trying to get to the gym most days.

I am working on lifestyle change. I am not going to get this weight off if I cannot get a handle on stress. I find weight is always a side effect to what is going on in life. I am trying to get that in order.

Thank you for a space to not feel so alone.

I was losing weight from obese to very lean at a very crazy time in my life, and doing so required me to be really honest with myself about my capacity.

I had to be realistic about my ability to stay on top of cooking and eating if I wanted my weight to be able to weather the storm of life's periodic insanity.

An eating plan that wasn't resilient against chaos was an eating plan destined to periodically fail.

As a result, I have a cooking service that steps in and can make my meals for a week whenever I lose capacity to do so. I have a set of very easy meals set up in my Paprika app for when I have a bit of bandwidth, but not a ton. And I have a ton of partially processed meals that are stupid easy to make, like pho where I just need to heat up a premade broth and drop in a few ingredients that require no prep.

I set up my life so that the need for convenience never details my level of self care.

I'm never stuck between: spend time and energy in the kitchen cooking a nutritious meal VS order pizza and stuff my face with comforting melted cheese. Because when I'm drained, cooking is never going to win that fight.

So be realistic about your available resources for feeding yourself and your family.

Where exactly is your plan going off the rails, and how can you incorporate a fuse in the system that breaks instead of the whole system crashing?

I have been trying to figure out what 'it' is that is derailing me. I think it is perfectionism and having to adjust to the needs of my family and I always get to be last. I know this is a typical mom thing.  I am also trying to adjust to DD doing sports, and homework is all ready the vain of my existence. I hated it in school and now it is even worst with a 7th grader. I am working on teaching time management skills so that homework is not a major impact to our life.

I am starting to learn that I do not need to be last. And I am starting to put safety nets around me. I am trying to learn that I do not need to do everything. And that I can do things that help me bring down my stress level. Meditation, and yoga seem to be helping. My goal is to deal with the stress and perfectionism.

This is a project of a life time that constantly moving parts and trying to adjust and being flexible enough is what I get to learn. I know that this only going to make me a better person. The best part about taking this on is yes I want to drop weight, but the weight is a side effect to the existing problem.

Yes, this is VERY common among mothers and cited frequently as a source of plan failure. The expectation that they *should* be able to manage everything, including feeding themselves means that they never realistically plan for when they can't actually handle everything, because instead of compassionately planning for when things will be too much, they just double down on the pressure and shame to try and "motivate" themselves to magically have more bandwidth than they've ever realistically had. I see it a lot.

Here's where I reframe it as thinking like an executive, not thinking like a mom. When you think like a mom, you think that you *should* be able to do everything and that you're somehow a failure if you don't. When you think like an executive, you have no choice but to be realistic as to how far you can push the various members of your team because you can't afford systemic failure.

You, as a member of your family team require just as much care and monitoring as the rest of them. Putting yourself last doesn't serve any of the team's long term well being, it makes one of most productive members of the team, you, less functional.

Your value as a key team member isn't how much of your own well being you're willing to neglect and give away. Your value is what you bring to the table, and you can bring *more* value by taking care of yourself as a team resource.

A lot of mothers see self care as taking something away from the rest of their family members, as if their time and energy is a limited resource and diverting some to themselves is basically stealing from their loved ones. But this is total toxic nonsense. For you to give your family the MOST of yourself requires you to take the BEST care of yourself possible.

Because your capacity is not a static thing. The more you neglect yourself, the lower your capacity will be.

All kids do better with happy, healthy parents. Taking care of your own needs IS the most emotionally generous thing you can do for them.

I cannot thank you enough. Your words are really hitting home. Thank you.

I took the time and meditated for 45 minutes this morning even before I came downstairs, I went to yoga this morning, made myself the best big midday meal I could, a bit of beef, eggs, roasted veggies, a fresh grapefruit, and a slice of toast. And sliced a lemon for my water. I am finding the more intention I put into my meals that I am more satisfied and I am not looking for sweets mid afternoon. I have a simple dinner planned and my preteen can handle it. And hubby said he would assist when she fusses.

And maybe tonight the preteen and I will go to the cardio dance class at the gym.

I am trying to add to life and not take away. I need more play, more intention, more joy.

This afternoon I will work on some food prep and make the rest of the week simple for meals.

Thank you again.

seemsright

  • Bristles
  • ***
  • Posts: 493
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2021, 12:46:18 PM »
I buy lots of pre-washed or bagged or portioned foods.  Aldi has made that possible without going broke.  Bags of salad, bags of already shredded cheese, bags of frozen veg to microwave in the bags, and even bags of brown rice. I want to dirty as few dishes as possible.  Yes it's more expensive but at Aldi it's not too bad.  I'll have a bag of brown rice and a bag of broccoli for dinner and call it a night.  Just a few min in the microwave and no dirty dishes.

I just had a huge salad and cut and weighed food as I put it in the bowl.  Mandarin oranges, cherry tomatoes, strawberries, raspberries (they were on sale), a small avocado, 28 grams of goat cheese, 2 T of dressing that I had drained most of the oil out of the bottle (I usually just make my own with vinegar, a splash of juice, salt, pepper, garlic powder, onion powder).  The whole bowl was 437 calories.  My big salad bowls were in the dishwasher so I had to use a serving bowl and filled it up!  It was huge, no cooking, no dirty cookware or measuring cups.

The frozen bags of broccoli at Aldi are less than a dollar.  Totally worth checking them out for bagged food that's clean and cut with little prep and no dirty dishes.

If you take some berries (does not matter which ones) and then blend it with some balsamic vinegar, a bit of salt and pepper it makes a great dressing. You could add a touch of oil, but I just add a bit of water if I have a fat source in my salad.   

Metalcat

  • Senior Mustachian
  • ********
  • Posts: 17610
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2021, 12:52:27 PM »
fresh shreaded cheese is amazing compared to pre shreaded cheese though-

just did 10 mins of yoga - that was interesting to see how weak i've gotten.

And a rotary shredder makes it easy to shred an entire block in about 45 seconds.

nessness

  • Handlebar Stache
  • *****
  • Posts: 1029
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2021, 03:19:49 PM »
I did the first day of Couch to 5k today and it was way harder than I expected, partly because my neighborhood is so hilly, and partly just because I'm so out of shape. But I finished it!

I started tracking my calories yesterday - I was hoping to avoid that but I've realized that I really need to to keep myself on track.
I was hoping to avoid

DeniseNJ

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 778
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #45 on: December 09, 2021, 07:05:10 AM »
One day, a while back in the before days (before global pandemic), I was walking along the subway on my way to work (I commuted from NJ to NYC).  I was thinking about how fat I was and hating on my body as I zipped to work at my NYC walking speed, which is practically running.  I started to catch up to and pass a guy hobbling along with difficulty, presumably to his work, with a pronounced limp.  And I thought:

"Here I am hating on this body of mine, but at least it works. I'm not laid up in bed. I'm not even in a wheel chair or walking with a limp or in pain. This body of mine is hauling me along to work everyday and doing a great job at it.  I should be appreciative of all the great things it can do instead of putting it down for being fat.  Someday I'll look back on this beautiful body of mine and wish I still looked this good or worked this well."

I've been hating on myself for being fat again--I've lost and gained weight many times--when I should be celebrating my amazing body and taking better care of it by feeding it good food and working it out and keeping it in the best shape possible as a thank you for hauling me around for the last 50 years. 

Yes, if you think you're fat you should lose weight. But not bc you hate your awesome body. Do it bc you love yourself and you deserve it and your amazing body deserves to be its very best.

Metalcat

  • Senior Mustachian
  • ********
  • Posts: 17610
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #46 on: December 09, 2021, 07:29:57 AM »
^Speaking as someone who can't walk properly and is about to have both legs broken as part of 6 surgeries and 2 whole years of excrutiating pain to just *hope* to walk better.

Yeah, I agree with you.

I would trade my lean body for yours or a much fatter one ANY DAY.

MaybeBabyMustache

  • Walrus Stache
  • *******
  • Posts: 5470
    • My Wild Ride to FI
Re: Lose weight TODAY!!
« Reply #47 on: December 09, 2021, 07:55:46 AM »
I'm in. I do GREAT with consistent working out, but struggle with food. My biggest challenge is evening snacking. I have two teenage boys at home, and they are big time evening snackers. It then becomes very appealing for me to have a snack as well.

A few things I'm going to do differently:
-Consistently track my calories
-Brush my teeth after dinner. I just need evening snack to end
-Consistently fast before lunch

If I do those three, combined with the exercise, I'll be in great shape. Literally & metaphorically. ;-)

I've been doing the first two (consistently tracking my calories, & brushing my teeth after dinner/avoiding snacking). I'm working out a lot, and have been a bit more hit or miss on the fasting. However, I've lost 2.5 lbs in a couple of weeks, so things are heading in the right direction.

DeniseNJ

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 778
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #48 on: December 09, 2021, 07:57:28 AM »
Malcat, I'm so sorry you are going through this! That sounds awful.  I wish you luck and strength and hope. You always have such an incredible and helpful outlook that it's often surprising when you discuss your challenges or limitations.  Thank you so much for sharing some of your journey.

DeniseNJ

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 778
Re: Lose weight starting TODAY!!
« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2021, 08:00:21 AM »
I just did 20 minutes of yoga with Adrienne. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYKMP6rOE
I feel so much better.  I'm always so sore and achy from sitting on my butt all day and yes it was surprising how weak I've gotten. But I feel so much looser and stretched out.

 

Wow, a phone plan for fifteen bucks!