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Title: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 01, 2015, 03:59:33 PM
The cycling challenge for January 2015 is up and ready for you!!

If you logged miles last month, and selected "Remember Me" on the form, you have been added to this month's sheet already.

If you didn't log miles, or are a new participant
Click here to fill out the form. (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/19ChNCwQzYPy8-RrJTBjatpnXUlFSGPnSmtekHuORwHQ/viewform)

You can access the sheet at this link (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Uf5xqdCvk6HSG62u906IW2EnjlOIs8HGZ2KsGGG6Oio/edit?usp=sharing).

The historical data on your individual sheets will update from the December challenge a couple times per day, so if you have added miles, and they don't show up, just give it a bit. If they aren't there within a day, or you have any other issues with the sheet, hit me up via email, Google+ Hangouts (http://gplus.to/jordanread), PM, or just comment on this thread.

Happy Cycling!!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 01, 2015, 04:00:11 PM
2014 - A year of cycling in review

2014 is the second full year in which these challenges have been going on. Here are some stats on what this community has accomplished.

1. We logged 72,466 miles.
2. 130 individual people participated (and logged miles)
3. On average, each person logged 557 miles.
4. Of course, there are those badasses among us who skew those numbers, raising us all up.

Top 10 Mileage


Veterans - Participated all 12 months


1000+ mile club


Way to go everyone. Let's keep kicking ass, and make this our best year yet!!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Mrs. PoP on January 01, 2015, 04:25:32 PM
Happy New Year, everyone!  Here's to safe and happy riding in 2015 =)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: wintersun on January 01, 2015, 04:38:18 PM
I am in!  I will not measure the miles ridden but the minutes of cycling.  My goal for January is 8 1/2 hours. 
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 01, 2015, 04:42:03 PM
I am in!  I will not measure the miles ridden but the minutes of cycling.  My goal for January is 8 1/2 hours.

You are definitely going to have some issues with the spreadsheet, since it's based on distance. I'd suggest figuring out your average speed, and calculating the numbers, or try setting a yearly goal and join in the 2015 Fitness challenge (see my signature for the link).
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: ohyonghao on January 01, 2015, 04:48:36 PM
Started off the New Year with a 52 mile group ride.  Feels great to be winding up my 11 day staycation and so far my average is well above 21 (skewed a little by the half century days :-D).  Here's to a wonderful 2015!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 01, 2015, 05:36:23 PM
Started off the New Year with a 52 mile group ride.  Feels great to be winding up my 11 day staycation and so far my average is well above 21 (skewed a little by the half century days :-D).  Here's to a wonderful 2015!

I saw that you started tearing down the hill before realizing everyone would meet at the top. That's always one of those mistakes that makes one feel super-badass.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Primm on January 02, 2015, 04:39:19 AM
Yeah, so I totally forgot to track my km last month. Promise I'll do better this month! Or I'll try at least. :)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 02, 2015, 04:58:23 AM
Yeah, so I totally forgot to track my km last month. Promise I'll do better this month! Or I'll try at least. :)

I was wondering about that. Don't sweat it. I try to stay as accurate as possible, so I didn't put in my mileage on any of the days that my phone battery froze and it didn't track. Theoretically, I think I'm short around 40 miles.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Wolf_Stache on January 02, 2015, 11:13:33 AM
Wow, I broke 1000 miles and I didn't even participate all twelve months. I actually probably rode a lot farther than that, because I still rode even though I didn't know about the challenge. Goal for 2015 is to participate all year!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: SantaFeSteve on January 02, 2015, 11:52:46 AM
This is awesome.  I am in!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Kio on January 02, 2015, 01:27:56 PM
I'm in!  I had been doing so well last year until we had a cold snap in Nov, and I just never got back. :(  No more excuses. Looking forward to logging my miles with you all
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 02, 2015, 01:32:10 PM
I love getting new people!! Welcome, and Happy Cycling! Let us know if you have any questions or concerns. If there is an issue with the sheet, hit me up.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: wildflowersarefree on January 02, 2015, 09:00:40 PM
I'm in! I'm new to the forum but my goal has been that in 2015 I want to put less than 5,000 miles on my car and bike the rest. :-) Last year I put about 7,000 miles on my car so it will be interesting to see how that translates.

I don't think I can bike to work, I work 13 hour shifts at the hospital and really don't have enough energy to ride a bike home in the dark afterwards. But my goal is to bike for everything else if at all possible! :-)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: ohyonghao on January 02, 2015, 10:46:04 PM
I'm in! I'm new to the forum but my goal has been that in 2015 I want to put less than 5,000 miles on my car and bike the rest. :-) Last year I put about 7,000 miles on my car so it will be interesting to see how that translates.

I don't think I can bike to work, I work 13 hour shifts at the hospital and really don't have enough energy to ride a bike home in the dark afterwards. But my goal is to bike for everything else if at all possible! :-)

That's a pretty good goal, I went from 15k a year down to just about 5k last year (moved from 30 mile each way commute to 3 miles each way).  I kept a spreadsheet this past year detailing how much I spent on my bike and how much I saved by riding to work and other things which offset my car miles.  It can be a great motivation, plus I put in a "Days till break even" line to see how many days I had to ride to work to break even on what I spent on equipment.  If you already have everything then it can still be great to see the miles, and the savings, add up over time.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Primm on January 03, 2015, 03:05:13 AM
Yeah, so I totally forgot to track my km last month. Promise I'll do better this month! Or I'll try at least. :)

I was wondering about that. Don't sweat it. I try to stay as accurate as possible, so I didn't put in my mileage on any of the days that my phone battery froze and it didn't track. Theoretically, I think I'm short around 40 miles.

When I moved I put my Garmin away somewhere (probably in the office stuff). We're painting before we unpack the non-essentials, so my Garmin is still packed away. And I can't be bothered sitting down with Google maps and calculating my distances.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Thegoblinchief on January 03, 2015, 11:38:32 AM
If I get through 2015 without anyone pulling a knife on me, it'll be a good year!

Forgot to share this in the December thread, but this happened to me a few days ago while on holiday:

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Just had a car try to run me off the road, then block me in a lane, get out, draw a knife on me and try to get me to fight them. Not sure if the guy was crazy, drunk, high, or all 3 but 911 and my fists being the only option doesn't feel like enough.

Luckily 911 alone was enough this time. The guy ran off and got back into his car, with his weirdly cackling female passenger (seriously, the whole time she thought this was hilarious) when he heard me connect to 911, list his exact description and his license plate.

I refuse to let this encounter keep me from biking, but I came quite close to closing the distance. He tried this wild-ass kick, all "thug style". Could have easily closed in and driven him straight into a wall and broken his neck...

So fucking bizarre. I'm a big guy. I never thought I'd get harassed like that, and I'm pretty sure this is the first time anyone's ever pulled a weapon on me.

It was in Baltimore, which I know has bad neighborhoods, but this was in broad daylight on BUSY streets in one of the swankier areas.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 03, 2015, 12:17:50 PM
If I get through 2015 without anyone pulling a knife on me, it'll be a good year!

Forgot to share this in the December thread, but this happened to me a few days ago while on holiday:

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Just had a car try to run me off the road, then block me in a lane, get out, draw a knife on me and try to get me to fight them. Not sure if the guy was crazy, drunk, high, or all 3 but 911 and my fists being the only option doesn't feel like enough.

Luckily 911 alone was enough this time. The guy ran off and got back into his car, with his weirdly cackling female passenger (seriously, the whole time she thought this was hilarious) when he heard me connect to 911, list his exact description and his license plate.

I refuse to let this encounter keep me from biking, but I came quite close to closing the distance. He tried this wild-ass kick, all "thug style". Could have easily closed in and driven him straight into a wall and broken his neck...

So fucking bizarre. I'm a big guy. I never thought I'd get harassed like that, and I'm pretty sure this is the first time anyone's ever pulled a weapon on me.

It was in Baltimore, which I know has bad neighborhoods, but this was in broad daylight on BUSY streets in one of the swankier areas.

Yeah, I hate riding through swanky areas. Those people are nuts!! I'll stick with the gangsters and what not for safety. ;-) Also, I totally didn't know that there was thug style kick. Didn't think one could kick with their pants around their knees.

Glad you are okay, though. Did you have the goblins with you? Maybe you should get a bike sword.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 05, 2015, 07:41:27 AM
A fair amount of black ice on the roads this morning. Fortunately, when I got some oil and some knowledge at the bike shop last week (proper maintenance of trigger shifters...remember how they froze?), I spent some time going all Tokyo Drift in the parking lot. There were a few hills just north of there, so I spent a fair amount of time figuring out the physics of the bike with the new pannier. That meant that even though I spent a disturbing amount of time on the roads without full control, I didn't fall down once! I never thought I'd be able to say it, but I think I managed to invent bike glissading (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1nPmASfmkU).

Safe rides out there everyone!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Wolf_Stache on January 05, 2015, 11:22:27 AM
Nice story JordanReads!

My story is that this morning the intersection near my work was COMPLETELY blocked by an accident (a semi collided with a work truck and a van). I was on my bike and able to just glide around the mess. SO glad I didn't take the bus this morning!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: ohyonghao on January 05, 2015, 01:18:41 PM
If I get through 2015 without anyone pulling a knife on me, it'll be a good year!

Forgot to share this in the December thread, but this happened to me a few days ago while on holiday:

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Just had a car try to run me off the road, then block me in a lane, get out, draw a knife on me and try to get me to fight them. Not sure if the guy was crazy, drunk, high, or all 3 but 911 and my fists being the only option doesn't feel like enough.

Luckily 911 alone was enough this time. The guy ran off and got back into his car, with his weirdly cackling female passenger (seriously, the whole time she thought this was hilarious) when he heard me connect to 911, list his exact description and his license plate.

I refuse to let this encounter keep me from biking, but I came quite close to closing the distance. He tried this wild-ass kick, all "thug style". Could have easily closed in and driven him straight into a wall and broken his neck...

So fucking bizarre. I'm a big guy. I never thought I'd get harassed like that, and I'm pretty sure this is the first time anyone's ever pulled a weapon on me.

It was in Baltimore, which I know has bad neighborhoods, but this was in broad daylight on BUSY streets in one of the swankier areas.

I had something sort of similar happen, though perhaps I instigated it a little.  I was riding the long route home with bike lane the whole way and coming up on one of the intersections a pickup had decided that since he wanted to make a right turn that he should ride in the bike lane even though his truck won't fit (this was not a spot with a white dash line that cars and bikes share for turning right but a solid white line the whole way to the intersection), and he is two cars back from the light.  I stopped and mentioned to him that this is a bike lane and that he shouldn't be driving his truck through it.  Him and his girlfriend got all upset, said that there was enough room for me to squeeze by so why am I complaining and that bikes have cut him off before so whatever.  A few choice words going back and forth and he put his truck in park and got out, at which point I rode away :-D.

I'm working on a shorter dialogue for these encounters that essentially just politely informs them of their mistake and then ride on.  I've had good encounters with that, sometimes clown car drivers just don't realize what they are doing, then there are assholes like the one who said "Well, I didn't hit you." when I confronted someone about coming within inches of me while speeding by.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: TrMama on January 05, 2015, 01:31:56 PM
If I get through 2015 without anyone pulling a knife on me, it'll be a good year!

Forgot to share this in the December thread, but this happened to me a few days ago while on holiday:

Quote
Just had a car try to run me off the road, then block me in a lane, get out, draw a knife on me and try to get me to fight them. Not sure if the guy was crazy, drunk, high, or all 3 but 911 and my fists being the only option doesn't feel like enough.

Luckily 911 alone was enough this time. The guy ran off and got back into his car, with his weirdly cackling female passenger (seriously, the whole time she thought this was hilarious) when he heard me connect to 911, list his exact description and his license plate.

I refuse to let this encounter keep me from biking, but I came quite close to closing the distance. He tried this wild-ass kick, all "thug style". Could have easily closed in and driven him straight into a wall and broken his neck...

So fucking bizarre. I'm a big guy. I never thought I'd get harassed like that, and I'm pretty sure this is the first time anyone's ever pulled a weapon on me.

It was in Baltimore, which I know has bad neighborhoods, but this was in broad daylight on BUSY streets in one of the swankier areas.

Holy crap. You totally win the "Crappiest Clown Car Encounter ever" award.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: TrMama on January 05, 2015, 01:36:47 PM
I'm working on a shorter dialogue for these encounters that essentially just politely informs them of their mistake and then ride on.  I've had good encounters with that, sometimes clown car drivers just don't realize what they are doing, then there are assholes like the one who said "Well, I didn't hit you." when I confronted someone about coming within inches of me while speeding by.

I've had the best luck with calling out their license plate # to them. Gets the message across that they're doing something wrong and they can be held accountable. It also helps me to remember the number in case I do call to report them. The one time I tried this the guy just drove off and quit threatening me. Which was exactly what I wanted him to do :-)

I also get a better response if I can manage to sound calm and detached. However, that's much easier said than done.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: SpreadsheetMonkey on January 05, 2015, 05:47:15 PM
This is my first winter riding in Minnesota.  Today was a new personal record: -11F.  I over-layered and was a sweaty mess by the time I got to work.

I ran in to a new problem with the temps this low.  I've grown accustomed to my glasses fogging up if I am wearing a face mask.  Down to 5 above, it's just an inconvenience. I just take the mask off for a bit to let things clear up. This morning it was so cold that the condensation froze and turned to ice.  I'm wearing ski goggles, which help a bit.  Other than contacts or lasik, anybody have a solution?
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: PindyStache on January 05, 2015, 08:15:53 PM
I was riding the long route home with bike lane the whole way and coming up on one of the intersections a pickup had decided that since he wanted to make a right turn that he should ride in the bike lane even though his truck won't fit (this was not a spot with a white dash line that cars and bikes share for turning right but a solid white line the whole way to the intersection), and he is two cars back from the light.  I stopped and mentioned to him that this is a bike lane and that he shouldn't be driving his truck through it. 

I actually think technically cars should be in a bike lane, regardless of striping, if they are turning right. Something like the situation you describe is what I find dangerous on a bike--in a bike lane passing a stack of cars waiting to go through a light; light turns green & cars begin to go but the one I'm passing decides to turn without putting a signal on and doesn't see/expect a bike coming up alongside as they accelerate. If they were just in the bike lane yes I would have to wait but it would be more clear what they were doing. It is a bit counterintuitive, but I think it is both what the letter of the law says and what is safest for the bicyclist (which is where I am most often in this equation).

I'm glad you are helping to educate drivers in general, and have come to a similar conclusion about saying brief things in a friendly way but not stopping to chat. Today I was nearly doored and just said "heads up." They guy was pretty surprised and dropped the phone he was yammering on into the snow!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 06, 2015, 05:33:11 AM
So the body's ability to adapt rarely ceases to amaze me. It's 32*F right now. Just a few weeks ago, that would have felt a touch daunting, but it really seems more like just south of balmy. Now if only I could get the girlfriend to stop upping the thermostat...

Anyway, I'm off. Be safe out there, and enjoy the ride!!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Nancy on January 06, 2015, 07:22:18 AM
Woohoo! Being on those lists makes me feel like I made the honor roll :) Awesome!

Today, I was perfectly toasty at 15F. Love my wool longjohns. Have a great day, everyone!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: wildflowersarefree on January 06, 2015, 07:04:40 PM
You guys make me feel guilty for our 65° this afternoon! Perfect riding weather. Even had to take of my sweater. Ill make up for it when its 105° this summer. :) Actually its still getting down to the 20s -30s at night which chills our little San Antonio bones.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: TrMama on January 07, 2015, 09:40:48 AM
Thanks, Jordan for putting those stats together! Yay me, for being on some of the top 10 lists. The downside of racking up all those miles is that yesterday I realized I've actually worn out my rear wheel from riding so much. The rim is seriously grooved and I probably shouldn't be riding on it.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 07, 2015, 09:50:08 AM
You guys make me feel guilty for our 65° this afternoon! Perfect riding weather. Even had to take of my sweater. Ill make up for it when its 105° this summer. :) Actually its still getting down to the 20s -30s at night which chills our little San Antonio bones.

Meh, don't feel guilty. I'm pretty sure we have some Australians in the challenge too, so it's summer there.

Fun fact: Mpls means Minneapolis.  I got that confused with MLS, and just assumed that MplsIceBiker was a bad ass real estate agent.

Thanks, Jordan for putting those stats together! Yay me, for being on some of the top 10 lists. The downside of racking up all those miles is that yesterday I realized I've actually worn out my rear wheel from riding so much. The rim is seriously grooved and I probably shouldn't be riding on it.

Not a problem. It keeps me honest, and keeps me riding. Yeah, I'm getting my rear tire looked at today. For some reason it won't stay true.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Wolf_Stache on January 07, 2015, 11:31:30 AM
This morning I saw a guy commuting on one of these things:

http://gajitz.com/hot-wheel-ultra-minimalist-electric-single-wheeled-vehicle/

I had to look it up cause at the time I was going WTF is that????
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: ohyonghao on January 07, 2015, 10:23:40 PM
You guys make me feel guilty for our 65° this afternoon! Perfect riding weather. Even had to take of my sweater. Ill make up for it when its 105° this summer. :) Actually its still getting down to the 20s -30s at night which chills our little San Antonio bones.

Meh, don't feel guilty. I'm pretty sure we have some Australians in the challenge too, so it's summer there.
Here near Portland, OR we've been having some nice clear winter weather, oddly getting a high of 51F today.  Got my arm warmers in and boy do they make a difference.

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Fun fact: Mpls means Minneapolis.  I got that confused with MLS, and just assumed that MplsIceBiker was a bad ass real estate agent.

Thanks, Jordan for putting those stats together! Yay me, for being on some of the top 10 lists. The downside of racking up all those miles is that yesterday I realized I've actually worn out my rear wheel from riding so much. The rim is seriously grooved and I probably shouldn't be riding on it.

Not a problem. It keeps me honest, and keeps me riding. Yeah, I'm getting my rear tire looked at today. For some reason it won't stay true.
You all are making it tough to stay on top, had to join a night cycling group to squeeze out a few extra miles :-D  My daily commute is only 3.1mi each way, almost jealous of seeing some with 10mi bike commutes.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 08, 2015, 05:13:37 AM
Here near Portland, OR we've been having some nice clear winter weather, oddly getting a high of 51F today.  Got my arm warmers in and boy do they make a difference.

You all are making it tough to stay on top, had to join a night cycling group to squeeze out a few extra miles :-D  My daily commute is only 3.1mi each way, almost jealous of seeing some with 10mi bike commutes.

I kind of feel the same way about my commute. We're looking at moving this year, but all of the neighborhoods we've looked at are way closer to work. I get a little freaked out. "But how am I going to get my miles?" :-)


Are you using arm warmers at 51°F? I got a pair when I invested in all of my gear a couple months ago, but with the jacket I have, I haven't needed to use them down to -7°F, as I just stay warm with the jersey/jacket combo.

So my fun fact was that I thought I bent my rim on one of my tumbles, or maybe just the weight distribution with the new pannier. I noticed it on Tuesday, so I decided to stop by the bike shop on the way home yesterday. Turns out I broke a spoke. So I got to spend a few minutes learning how to properly true a tire, and install a new spoke, which was totally worth the money ($26.08). The guy even showed me how to do it from home, without anything special. It's kind of cool having that hands on stuff, as I've seen videos, but being able to be walked through it is even better. He even told me that if they wind up with another crappy wheel they would trash, he'd hold it for me so I can practice without risking the bike. I love this town!!

Yesterday, I also saw something on the phone that I didn't know how to react to. Before I stepped outside, I looked at the weather, and it said "Freezing Fog". I had no clue what that meant, but apparently it just means that ice covers everything. Took a few falls around the lake before I realized that I'd be better off riding in the grass on that particular part of the commute. Now, I look at the weather for today (56°F) and am stoked, but tomorrow, there is yet another weather description that I do not know. "Ice pellets". WTF? It's obviously not hail, otherwise it would say that. Should be interesting, though.

Also, one of my projects for this month is the single host reboot of my Frugal FIRE show. With the flaking out of guests, co-hosts, and doing the entire thing live, I decided to pre-record segments. One of them is going to be on biking. Each week there will be some type of fun educational thing on some aspect of it. Right now, I've got a decent size list as to some of the things I'm going to cover as this segment of the show. So as an intro, I was going to do some video editing of different environments that people ride in. Do you guys want to help? If so, just take a video clip (5-10 seconds) of some part of your commute, or you and a friend on a bike, or whatever (backflips? cheering? :P) and upload it here or PM me to email it. If you want to see some of the old versions of the show (with guests and cohost), there is a thread here (http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/mustachianism-around-the-web/frugal-fire-show). It's not monetized, and I only do it for fun. I'll post in that other thread later, but thought I'd see if any of you were interested in helping out.

Happy Cycling!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Ottawa on January 08, 2015, 05:49:42 AM
This morning was a gorgeous -15F (-26C) here in the nation's (Canada) capital!  There wasn't a soul around walking, biking or even driving at 6:30am.  I put on my A game of clothing layers and was good to go.  I am very pleased with my single bike conversion in winter conditions.  No issue at all this morning - usually derailleurs don't do so well when it is super cold and ice/snow builds up. 

It's damn cold in the office though (15C or 59F)!!!  LOL
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 08, 2015, 07:25:36 AM
This morning was a gorgeous -15F (-26C) here in the nation's (Canada) capital!  There wasn't a soul around walking, biking or even driving at 6:30am.  I put on my A game of clothing layers and was good to go.  I am very pleased with my single bike conversion in winter conditions.  No issue at all this morning - usually derailleurs don't do so well when it is super cold and ice/snow builds up. 

It's damn cold in the office though (15C or 59F)!!!  LOL

Badass ride!! What do you mean single bike conversion? Do you mean a single speed conversion? No rear gears? That's even more badass. I was damn near helpless when my shifters froze.

As for me, this morning was probably the most surreal ride I've ever had. Started off pretty normal, 22°F with a slight headwind of about 3mph. Nothing too crazy, but when I got to a specific part of my ride where I stop for a drink, I felt this burst of warm air across my face. I assumed that one of the houses near me was running the dryer or something. But as I continued on, I realized that the headwind was blowing in super warm air. It felt like 20°F warmer. It was crazy. I thought I may have been having a stroke, until I crossed paths with another biker. I asked if it seemed like the wind (and only the wind...regular still air was still chilly) was really warm. He just laughed and said "Yeah, nuts ain't it?". It was very neat. I've never experienced anything like that before.

Also, while riding on another part of my path, I wound up collecting other bikers. First one just turned onto the path, and then another, and another. We waved, nodded, and the like, but nobody said anything. However, the further we went, the bigger the smiles got. By the time the first guy turned off, there 4 of us, just cruising in silence, all with big dopey grins. It was pretty awesome.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Ottawa on January 08, 2015, 07:39:52 AM

Badass ride!! What do you mean single bike conversion? Do you mean a single speed conversion? No rear gears? That's even more badass. I was damn near helpless when my shifters froze.

Hah!  yes, single speed. 

Sounds like you had a sweet ride as well!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 08, 2015, 07:48:41 AM

Badass ride!! What do you mean single bike conversion? Do you mean a single speed conversion? No rear gears? That's even more badass. I was damn near helpless when my shifters froze.

Hah!  yes, single speed. 

Sounds like you had a sweet ride as well!

Always do. :-)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: joseveri on January 08, 2015, 08:20:49 AM
Lowest all time temp for me today.  -8 degrees with a 30 below windchill. 13 miles done of my 26 mile round trip commute and no real problems.  Gear held up well.  Loving the january cycling challenge :)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 08, 2015, 09:33:09 AM
Lowest all time temp for me today.  -8 degrees with a 30 below windchill. 13 miles done of my 26 mile round trip commute and no real problems.  Gear held up well.  Loving the january cycling challenge :)

Score 1 for new records!! Congratulations.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: MidwestBiker on January 08, 2015, 09:39:50 AM
Fun fact: Mpls means Minneapolis.  I got that confused with MLS, and just assumed that MplsIceBiker was a bad ass real estate agent.

Hey, I'm now a quoter. Ha-ha, "bad ass real estate agent." I guess "Mpls" is a bit obscure outside of MN. I'll have to use it a lot here to brand my username. A few years ago, when I started riding year round, I found icebike.org site that, while it is not active, has some good info and cool pictures. It also references the Arrowhead (another regional term) 135 race, which also looks pretty badass. Anyway, the "IceBike" term stuck with me. My 7.5 mile-ish commute is a just-right length for me. I get a good ride in each day, and thanks to the short one-way ride time, can get through almost any challenge. It's also great that there are city busses along most of my route if I need to bail out, and alternate, longer, routes with a fair amount of bike path options. I'm trying to keep a 20+ mile per day average, so taking some extra trips to make that personal goal. It's awesome to see the 30+mile days some folks log. Something for me to shoot for in the future.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: MidwestBiker on January 08, 2015, 09:50:04 AM
More about Mpls. A famous city landmark is Minnehaha Falls. First pic is a nice summer-time view of the Falls. Second is from Jan 2nd., with my bike/trusty stead "Old Blue" in the foreground. I've started calling it "Old Blue" after watching the Christmas Story movie, an annual event I make my wife enjoy with me each Christmas. (Ralphie calls his BB gun Old Blue.) I like seeing pictures of commuter/every-day use bikes. Happy riding everyone!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 08, 2015, 09:57:37 AM
I love the ice!! Badass!!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 08, 2015, 10:04:55 AM
Got pretty close to 1000 miles last year. Let's hope I get to at least 2000 this year!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Shor on January 08, 2015, 10:14:05 AM
Thanks for the stats jordanread, and for all your work revising the sheet, stellar work as always!
Now I feel terrible for shelving the bike for the previous month.. a bit of California rain broke my momentum :(
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: ohyonghao on January 08, 2015, 11:10:43 AM
Here near Portland, OR we've been having some nice clear winter weather, oddly getting a high of 51F today.  Got my arm warmers in and boy do they make a difference.

You all are making it tough to stay on top, had to join a night cycling group to squeeze out a few extra miles :-D  My daily commute is only 3.1mi each way, almost jealous of seeing some with 10mi bike commutes.

I kind of feel the same way about my commute. We're looking at moving this year, but all of the neighborhoods we've looked at are way closer to work. I get a little freaked out. "But how am I going to get my miles?" :-)


Are you using arm warmers at 51°F? I got a pair when I invested in all of my gear a couple months ago, but with the jacket I have, I haven't needed to use them down to -7°F, as I just stay warm with the jersey/jacket combo.
I did use the arm warmers yesterday, but not when it was 51.  After the long ride, and the beer, it was 40F and dropping, so I pulled out my balaclava and arm warmers.  Also just got booties for my clipless road shoes.  Stayed nice and warm on the ride home, felt amazing.

Usually 45F+ I don't need the balaclava, and never had arm warmers before, but on my 11 day staycation the temps were in the 20's and I had a thermal on, and wore my rain pants to help keep the heat in.

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So my fun fact was that I thought I bent my rim on one of my tumbles, or maybe just the weight distribution with the new pannier. I noticed it on Tuesday, so I decided to stop by the bike shop on the way home yesterday. Turns out I broke a spoke. So I got to spend a few minutes learning how to properly true a tire, and install a new spoke, which was totally worth the money ($26.08). The guy even showed me how to do it from home, without anything special. It's kind of cool having that hands on stuff, as I've seen videos, but being able to be walked through it is even better. He even told me that if they wind up with another crappy wheel they would trash, he'd hold it for me so I can practice without risking the bike. I love this town!!
My friend has gone through this a lot recently since he is a larger guy.  He's actually been getting a little depressed over not being able to ride, and losing confidence that when he does he won't break more spokes.  We think we've gotten it figured out now, he's built a wheel up custom now, has 36 spokes, and been on biking forums with other Clydesdale riders (term he used) that have similar experience.

He taught himself to true a wheel, used an old fork from another bike as a truing stand, with zip ties for feelers.  Helped true my rear wheel for me, and I hope to learn to do it myself soon.

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Yesterday, I also saw something on the phone that I didn't know how to react to. Before I stepped outside, I looked at the weather, and it said "Freezing Fog". I had no clue what that meant, but apparently it just means that ice covers everything. Took a few falls around the lake before I realized that I'd be better off riding in the grass on that particular part of the commute. Now, I look at the weather for today (56°F) and am stoked, but tomorrow, there is yet another weather description that I do not know. "Ice pellets". WTF? It's obviously not hail, otherwise it would say that. Should be interesting, though.

Just had that this morning, noticed a little crunch when leaving the garage, but it was 34F in most spots, with a couple areas nearby getting down to 29F, ride to work wasn't bad.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 08, 2015, 11:16:45 AM

I did use the arm warmers yesterday, but not when it was 51.  After the long ride, and the beer, it was 40F and dropping, so I pulled out my balaclava and arm warmers.  Also just got booties for my clipless road shoes.  Stayed nice and warm on the ride home, felt amazing.

Yeah, booties changed my life. :-)


My friend has gone through this a lot recently since he is a larger guy.  He's actually been getting a little depressed over not being able to ride, and losing confidence that when he does he won't break more spokes.  We think we've gotten it figured out now, he's built a wheel up custom now, has 36 spokes, and been on biking forums with other Clydesdale riders (term he used) that have similar experience.

He taught himself to true a wheel, used an old fork from another bike as a truing stand, with zip ties for feelers.  Helped true my rear wheel for me, and I hope to learn to do it myself soon.


One of the other things I learned was how to do a stress test on the tire. Even though I have a fair amount of weight on the wheel, including the pannier, we determined that it was just normal fatigue from the wheel being an estimated 12 years old, with thinner spokes for less weight. Same with the not so roundness of it. I should be okay for another year at least, hopefully.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Carlsky on January 08, 2015, 11:18:23 AM
OK, I signed up but likely won't log any this month due to snow in Kingston.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Thegoblinchief on January 08, 2015, 12:24:38 PM
OK, I signed up but likely won't log any this month due to snow in Kingston.

Snow is the PERFECT time to ride!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 09, 2015, 09:02:27 AM
Another morning of freezing fog/drizzle. Ice over everything. I took it easy, and didn't fall once. Once I got into work, I found out that even people who live in town had to take an extra 20 minutes  to defrost their cars and scrape their windows. I took it easy, and spent less time on my commute than they did, plus I had way more fun!! Feeling very superior this morning. :-)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: MidwestBiker on January 09, 2015, 09:07:00 AM
Last night's 10-mile ride was about the most intense bike-riding experience I can remember. After clearing out our driveway and sidewalk I decided to take a ride during the blizzard. Most of the snow was already on the ground and blowing around. It was light and powdery. But the roads were not cleared, nor was the bike path. I rode side-streets to the green-line trail, including some stretches of 3-4 inch deep powder. The green-line and LRT trails were kind of cleared off, but maybe just from the high winds. Saw about a half-dozen other bikers. The ride out was straight into the gusting wind. I had a new balaclava and it worked pretty well with my ski goggles. The air temp was up from previous sub-zero days. Main issue continues to be eyeglasses fogging up. Tilting my head around to keep some air infiltrating helps but that interferes with paying attention to everything else. But the ride into the wind, with some white-out conditions, was exhilarating. When I finally turned around, I had that same wind at my back and flew down the trail. This morning most of the roads were plowed. I took a longer route to work to make use of the cleared bike-paths. The road conditions vary from hard-packed to icy to slushy. The weather conditions last night, including 5F/-16F wind-chill and 28mph wind/43 mph gusts from the NW:
08 19:53 NW 28 G 43 5.00 Blowing Snow and Windy OVC024 7 -1   70% -16 NA 29.99 1017.8
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: MidwestBiker on January 09, 2015, 09:15:58 AM
Another morning of freezing fog/drizzle. Ice over everything. I took it easy, and didn't fall once. Once I got into work, I found out that even people who live in town had to take an extra 20 minutes  to defrost their cars and scrape their windows. I took it easy, and spent less time on my commute than they did, plus I had way more fun!! Feeling very superior this morning. :-)

Yes, it's great avoiding the hassles of cleaning the snow and ice off a car. Last night the commuting traffic was still snarled at 7 pm due to the weather. My ride in this morning was a bit slow due to the wind and road conditions, but still preferable to being in the automobile traffic.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Thegoblinchief on January 09, 2015, 09:59:34 AM
I haven't had a good reason (or time away from the kids) to bike in the last two storms, but it's a lot more fun this year when my tires have grip. Had a good ride early in the week, though I took the shorter way home. Had no idea how tender produce like sprouts would handle being in panniers when it was below zero and didn't want to risk them getting ruined by taking too long.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: ohyonghao on January 09, 2015, 03:00:34 PM
Still enjoying this nice weather, tested a short lunch time ride.  If only I could get my racing bike to work...
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 10, 2015, 10:51:09 AM
Still enjoying this nice weather, tested a short lunch time ride.  If only I could get my racing bike to work...
Can't you ride that bike to work?
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: ohyonghao on January 11, 2015, 05:12:25 PM
Still enjoying this nice weather, tested a short lunch time ride.  If only I could get my racing bike to work...
Can't you ride that bike to work?
Of course I could ride it to work, but then getting my heavy laptop and lunch may prove more difficult. It's been a bane of mine for awhile. Currently my commuter has a plastic box which holds everything.

I could try using a backpack again now that I'm actually in shape for riding, but when I first started in January of twenty fourteen I found the pack too heavy and bothersome.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 11, 2015, 05:18:11 PM
Still enjoying this nice weather, tested a short lunch time ride.  If only I could get my racing bike to work...
Can't you ride that bike to work?
Of course I could ride it to work, but then getting my heavy laptop and lunch may prove more difficult. It's been a bane of mine for awhile. Currently my commuter has a plastic box which holds everything.

I could try using a backpack again now that I'm actually in shape for riding, but when I first started in January of twenty fourteen I found the pack too heavy and bothersome.

Oh, gotcha. Probably not many racing bikes with racks :-). I totally missed that. And as far as the backpack goes...I hated mine so much that I spent $150 just so I didn't have to use it anymore, and it was completely worth it for me. I can't stand back sweat. However, others do just fine (even though it boggles my mind) with them. :-)

Of course...
(http://www.bikesatwork.com/static/images/customers/craig-corson-carrying-one-bike-1.jpg)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Thegoblinchief on January 11, 2015, 05:27:34 PM
Someone around here - I think Wolf_Stache? - has a seat post rack for a racing bike. Not sure what the weight limit is. I think she said 10-20 pounds but that was a thread from quite a while back.

My dream bike would probably be the CX format where you get race geometry but all the braze ons for commuting/touring. But my hybrid is still pretty kick ass.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Russ on January 11, 2015, 05:28:32 PM
there will always be backpack people, and there will always be rack/trailer people

this is 35 lbs of full-suspension mountain bike strapped to my bag

no excuses for not transporting bikes to wherever they need to be ;-)

(http://i.imgur.com/uVvzl2p.jpg)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Russ on January 11, 2015, 05:37:50 PM
Someone around here - I think Wolf_Stache? - has a seat post rack for a racing bike. Not sure what the weight limit is. I think she said 10-20 pounds but that was a thread from quite a while back.

yeah, 20 lb. max is probably advertised but I wouldn't put more than 10 on one of those. The issue is lateral stiffness... without the triangulation of lower mount points, any bags you hang off the side will swing into your spokes. If you put all your junk in a trunk bag that might be alright but those are never big enough

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My dream bike would probably be the CX format where you get race geometry but all the braze ons for commuting/touring. But my hybrid is still pretty kick ass.

A common misconception... yes there are often mount points for racks/fenders, but CX bikes are designed to be race bikes first and the presence of threads where you want them is no indication that the bike will handle well under load. Up to 20 lbs or so is usually alright but any more than that and you'll want to (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ due to geometry making handling impossible (think "speed wobble" any time you stand up...)

hybrids really are way more rad than the reputation they carry
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 11, 2015, 05:38:52 PM
there will always be backpack people, and there will always be rack/trailer people

this is 35 lbs of full-suspension mountain bike strapped to my bag

no excuses for not transporting bikes to wherever they need to be ;-)

IMHO, your badass quotient just increased...by a lot.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Thegoblinchief on January 11, 2015, 05:50:07 PM
Heh, I remember that picture from when you first posted it. Still badass!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Primm on January 11, 2015, 05:51:15 PM
Someone around here - I think Wolf_Stache? - has a seat post rack for a racing bike. Not sure what the weight limit is. I think she said 10-20 pounds but that was a thread from quite a while back.

yeah, 20 lb. max is probably advertised but I wouldn't put more than 10 on one of those. The issue is lateral stiffness... without the triangulation of lower mount points, any bags you hang off the side will swing into your spokes. If you put all your junk in a trunk bag that might be alright but those are never big enough

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My dream bike would probably be the CX format where you get race geometry but all the braze ons for commuting/touring. But my hybrid is still pretty kick ass.

A common misconception... yes there are often mount points for racks/fenders, but CX bikes are designed to be race bikes first and the presence of threads where you want them is no indication that the bike will handle well under load. Up to 20 lbs or so is usually alright but any more than that and you'll want to (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ due to geometry making handling impossible (think "speed wobble" any time you stand up...)

hybrids really are way more rad than the reputation they carry

What about something like this?
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Russ on January 11, 2015, 06:01:21 PM
What about something like this?

Never seen one of those in the wild, but I like the idea of it as long as it's not too wide for your knees (I would definitely have a clearance problem, but I've been told I have "thunder thighs"... I imagine most people would be fine). One of my favorite bags is the frame bag in the photo below (above the water bottles), and that's a pretty similar concept if a bit smaller.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10530821_10203669943016547_894174351503069925_n.jpg?oh=6907a8fbaa1f678f71074e585d55c798&oe=553D59D1&__gda__=1429101755_af1e06c94570d7591e9d6aea9a7a2410)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Russ on January 11, 2015, 06:06:16 PM
ughhh just looking at these photos makes me wish it was summer, when I could wear shorts and ride tires that aren't total turds...
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Primm on January 11, 2015, 06:22:27 PM
What about something like this?

Never seen one of those in the wild, but I like the idea of it as long as it's not too wide for your knees (I would definitely have a clearance problem, but I've been told I have "thunder thighs"... I imagine most people would be fine). One of my favorite bags is the frame bag in the photo below (above the water bottles), and that's a pretty similar concept if a bit smaller.


Yeah, those are popular among the long course triathlon crowd to carry gels, food etc. I have only seen a few pictures of the other type but it looks big enough for a laptop. You'd probably want hard sides for the bag to guard against accidental damage though, which would increase the weight and the thickness.

ughhh just looking at these photos makes me wish it was summer, when I could wear shorts and ride tires that aren't total turds...

But it *is* summer! Oh, wait... you're on the wrong side of the Earth, aren't you? ;)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 12, 2015, 07:30:03 AM
This motivational message brought to you by Jordan, via his snowy commute this morning, and goes out to all those winter riders:


(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gz8mpTaNt4E/VLPW7aunOVI/AAAAAAAAMSU/zmMeBJmoo5E/w506-h899-no/IMG_20150112_064713463.jpg)

Next time I should use a stick.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Russ on January 12, 2015, 09:52:21 AM
get out and have some fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-eNnjwR5tc
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 12, 2015, 10:14:38 AM
get out and have some fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-eNnjwR5tc

That was pretty awesome. The only issue I have currently is that my front tire is old and balding. When I do upgrade it (did my back tire last year), I might do some videos like that.

For those of you biking in the snow, how do you avoid the build up in your brakes? I noticed today that it caused a fair amount of additional resistance, plus my brakes weren't working at all. I imagine disk brakes would be more effective, but I'm not sure. I'm just curious, as this is the fist time it's happened (really nice fluffy wet snow).
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Russ on January 12, 2015, 10:20:18 AM
don't do that without a studded front tire please

what brakes are you running and how big of tires are you stuffing in them? Only solution is more clearance really. You might be able to get that with different brakes or smaller tires, but probably not enough to make a difference.

This is also why people in snowy climates don't use fenders in the winter.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 12, 2015, 10:32:06 AM
don't do that without a studded front tire please

what brakes are you running and how big of tires are you stuffing in them? Only solution is more clearance really. You might be able to get that with different brakes or smaller tires, but probably not enough to make a difference.

This is also why people in snowy climates don't use fenders in the winter.

Ha, totally meant the camera placement while commuting, not the straight drifting. I have Shimano v-brakes, nothing fancy. I doubt it would be worth it to switch them out, and I think it has to be a perfect storm type of thing to really mess with me, so I was more curious really if disc brakes got gunked up like that (given deep enough snow). Interesting thing about the fenders, but I suppose it makes sense. I'm still going back and forth on getting a front fender. I don't see myself needing them that often, and I could just keep a clean pair of pants at work, which would make it a non-issue.

TGC has been recommending studded tires for me, but after talking with some local people who've been commuting year round for 10+ years, I don't think I'm going to spend the money on them. I was originally a bit worried about wearing them out, but apparently you have ridden yours extensively with very little. Our weather here is just so volatile that even if I had them, I'd only really need them for 1 day out of the week. Plus, before next winter when I upgrade my front tire, it will feel like studs by comparison.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Russ on January 12, 2015, 10:45:21 AM
so I was more curious really if disc brakes got gunked up like that (given deep enough snow).

they will not clog up with snow, but if the bottleneck isn't at the brakes then it will be at the chainstays. With the right (wrong) type of snow it's a problem you can't really avoid. The "advantage" of disc brakes is stopping power you can't use due to lower tire adhesion in inclement weather (you can tell I'm a huge fan...)

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TGC has been recommending studded tires for me, but after talking with some local people who've been commuting year round for 10+ years, I don't think I'm going to spend the money on them. I was originally a bit worried about wearing them out, but apparently you have ridden yours extensively with very little. Our weather here is just so volatile that even if I had them, I'd only really need them for 1 day out of the week.

4000 miles, no flats, and the treads still have all their siping. The magic of carbide. But yeah if you don't need 'em you don't need 'em
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Wolf_Stache on January 12, 2015, 11:05:59 AM
Someone around here - I think Wolf_Stache? - has a seat post rack for a racing bike. Not sure what the weight limit is. I think she said 10-20 pounds but that was a thread from quite a while back.

My dream bike would probably be the CX format where you get race geometry but all the braze ons for commuting/touring. But my hybrid is still pretty kick ass.

Yes, I commute on a racing bike that doesn't have ANY thread or attachment points. I downgraded to a heavier seat post that can support a rear seat-post mounted rack, and hang panniers off of that.  If you don't tighten the seat-post attachment the rack can swing and hit the tires, but I've only had that happen once when I hit a really giagantic pothole.

In reality I should probably buy a hybrid bike, but my racing bike is literally the perfect size for me. I'm REALLY SHORT so it is hard to find bikes small enough for me, and I don't want to go through another search.

Weight limit - not sure the pounds. Its perfect for my laptop and lunch bag, but I would hesitate to go grocery shopping and try to bring home 40 lbs of cat litter or something.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: b4u2 on January 12, 2015, 12:24:42 PM
I kinda want to try this winter riding but I am not set up for it yet. I have a few questions.

How do you handle kid pick up? My wife drops the kids off at school and I then pick them up. I get off work at 3:30 pm and he gets out at 3:48 pm.

How in the heck do you handle the cold. I have Raynauds ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raynaud's_phenomenon ) and the cold weather kills me. It hurts my hands the worst.

What type of bikes do you ride? This is what I have with no mods as of yet. http://www.amazon.com/Schwinn-Mens-Prelude-Bicycle-BBWhite/dp/B004QM22HC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421090651&sr=8-1&keywords=schwinn+prelude
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 12, 2015, 12:54:03 PM
My gear breakdown (been used successfully to -7°F...and I'll probably give them a shot down to -20°F):

Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: TrMama on January 12, 2015, 01:17:37 PM
I kinda want to try this winter riding but I am not set up for it yet. I have a few questions.

How do you handle kid pick up? My wife drops the kids off at school and I then pick them up. I get off work at 3:30 pm and he gets out at 3:48 pm.

How in the heck do you handle the cold. I have Raynauds ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raynaud's_phenomenon ) and the cold weather kills me. It hurts my hands the worst.

What type of bikes do you ride? This is what I have with no mods as of yet. http://www.amazon.com/Schwinn-Mens-Prelude-Bicycle-BBWhite/dp/B004QM22HC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421090651&sr=8-1&keywords=schwinn+prelude

Kid pickup depends on the age and number of kids. If they're in daycare the best option is likely a trailer. You can either leave it at daycare with the kids, or haul it to work empty. If they are too big, you need to pickup from multiple locations or there are too many of them, things get more complicated. If you give us some more details I'm sure we'll be able to come up with some suggestions for you.

In my case, I mostly waited until they were school age and could take the bus back and forth to school. When they're at daycamp, I drive them with the bike on the bike carrier. Once they're at camp, I park the car and ride from there. Reverse the process on the way home.

I ride a fancy pants carbon road bike. It's a super fun commuter because it's crazy fast. The only downside is that replacement parts are expensive. If you have to ride in snow or ice, I'd want a bike with grippier tires.

Cold is dealt with by wearing technical sporting gear in layers. When it's really cold and wet here I have some neoprene kayak gloves that are the bomb. They're super warm, stretchy and have really grippy palms.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: mskyle on January 12, 2015, 01:25:00 PM
I kinda want to try this winter riding but I am not set up for it yet. I have a few questions.

How do you handle kid pick up? My wife drops the kids off at school and I then pick them up. I get off work at 3:30 pm and he gets out at 3:48 pm.

How in the heck do you handle the cold. I have Raynauds ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raynaud's_phenomenon ) and the cold weather kills me. It hurts my hands the worst.

What type of bikes do you ride? This is what I have with no mods as of yet. http://www.amazon.com/Schwinn-Mens-Prelude-Bicycle-BBWhite/dp/B004QM22HC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421090651&sr=8-1&keywords=schwinn+prelude

How far away is the school from your home, and how old are your kids? I pass by an elementary school in a very bike-friendly neighborhood on my morning commute and at dropoff time I see all kinds of contraptions. There's a good rundown of the different types of bike-based child carriers in the handouts on this page (http://carfreecambridge.com/2014/07/biking-with-kids-handouts/). A used bike trailer off craigslist is definitely the lowest-cost choice. Or walking home with the kids, or having them ride their own bikes if they're old enough.

For the Raynauds, you might want to look into Bar Mitts (http://barmitts.com/) or another kind of pogies.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 12, 2015, 01:29:23 PM
Yeah, I forgot to add gloves to my post above, but those are pretty awesome and keep me super warm. Does compression help with Raynauds?
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: b4u2 on January 12, 2015, 01:47:52 PM
Yeah, I forgot to add gloves to my post above, but those are pretty awesome and keep me super warm. Does compression help with Raynauds?

I'm not sure. After 16 years here I am still trying to find a solution. i have thought about battery heated gloves but hate to spend the money and not have them work. I've spent a small fortune on gloves so far with no luck.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 12, 2015, 01:49:21 PM
Yeah, I forgot to add gloves to my post above, but those are pretty awesome and keep me super warm. Does compression help with Raynauds?

I'm not sure. After 16 years here I am still trying to find a solution. i have thought about battery heated gloves but hate to spend the money and not have them work. I've spent a small fortune on gloves so far with no luck.
I'll find a link when I'm back at a computer, but one option for warmers could be hot snapz. They are reusable.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: b4u2 on January 12, 2015, 02:18:48 PM
I kinda want to try this winter riding but I am not set up for it yet. I have a few questions.

How do you handle kid pick up? My wife drops the kids off at school and I then pick them up. I get off work at 3:30 pm and he gets out at 3:48 pm.

How in the heck do you handle the cold. I have Raynauds ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raynaud's_phenomenon ) and the cold weather kills me. It hurts my hands the worst.

What type of bikes do you ride? This is what I have with no mods as of yet. http://www.amazon.com/Schwinn-Mens-Prelude-Bicycle-BBWhite/dp/B004QM22HC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421090651&sr=8-1&keywords=schwinn+prelude

How far away is the school from your home, and how old are your kids? I pass by an elementary school in a very bike-friendly neighborhood on my morning commute and at dropoff time I see all kinds of contraptions. There's a good rundown of the different types of bike-based child carriers in the handouts on this page (http://carfreecambridge.com/2014/07/biking-with-kids-handouts/). A used bike trailer off craigslist is definitely the lowest-cost choice. Or walking home with the kids, or having them ride their own bikes if they're old enough.

For the Raynauds, you might want to look into Bar Mitts (http://barmitts.com/) or another kind of pogies.

He's 8 and not tiny either. We are roughly one mile from school to house. He is generally the only one I have to pick up. I am roughly one mile from work to the school for pick up. I don't have a bicycle rack for the car that my wife drives. She drops him off at school on her way to work.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: UnleashHell on January 12, 2015, 02:48:07 PM
. Now if only I could get the girlfriend to stop upping the thermostat...


easy - just hook it up to the same circuit as your home office............

oh and to keep it on topic my parents finally went home - and sunday I went for a bike ride with the wife - she was trying out some bike short she bought and was very comfortable in them (one less reason not to go out). Now to get back to biking to work...
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 12, 2015, 04:07:27 PM
. Now if only I could get the girlfriend to stop upping the thermostat...


easy - just hook it up to the same circuit as your home office............

oh and to keep it on topic my parents finally went home - and sunday I went for a bike ride with the wife - she was trying out some bike short she bought and was very comfortable in them (one less reason not to go out). Now to get back to biking to work...

I'm assuming you are referring to the touchy electrical issue? She already told me that she thinks I messed with it, so it detects as 7 degrees warmer than it is.
Oh, and as far as cycling shorts go, the rubber nubs around the legs changed my freaking life. It's amazing how much difference some of the gear makes.

And now, some observations from my ride today.

1. Colorado Springs is amazing...and it never ceases to amaze me.
     a. I saw more cyclists out today with the fluffy snow than I did all the cold and bitter days last week. They all were whooping and hollering and sliding and having a grand old time!
     b. While I never noticed before (mostly since snow melts so quickly here), our bike trails are plowed faster and more effectively than our streets. They are different departments, of course, but the folks who do the bike trails do an awesome job. I saw one guy today about 6 miles in. Coming home, they had all been plowed, but the streets I had to cross were tricky and snow covered.
2. With the back tire sliding, coupled with the offset weight distribution from my pannier, it's quite the shoulder workout.
3. I'm not sure how, but apparently there is a wrong way to wear a balaclava. My ears were very cold on the way home. Will investigate.

Yeah, I forgot to add gloves to my post above, but those are pretty awesome and keep me super warm. Does compression help with Raynauds?

I'm not sure. After 16 years here I am still trying to find a solution. i have thought about battery heated gloves but hate to spend the money and not have them work. I've spent a small fortune on gloves so far with no luck.
I'll find a link when I'm back at a computer, but one option for warmers could be hot snapz. They are reusable.

Here (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=bl_sr_sporting-goods?ie=UTF8&field-brandtextbin=HotSnapZ&node=3375251) is the amazon link, and this (http://hotsnapz.com/) is the actual web site.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: ohyonghao on January 12, 2015, 06:26:03 PM
Someone around here - I think Wolf_Stache? - has a seat post rack for a racing bike. Not sure what the weight limit is. I think she said 10-20 pounds but that was a thread from quite a while back.

My dream bike would probably be the CX format where you get race geometry but all the braze ons for commuting/touring. But my hybrid is still pretty kick ass.

Yes, I commute on a racing bike that doesn't have ANY thread or attachment points. I downgraded to a heavier seat post that can support a rear seat-post mounted rack, and hang panniers off of that.  If you don't tighten the seat-post attachment the rack can swing and hit the tires, but I've only had that happen once when I hit a really giagantic pothole.

In reality I should probably buy a hybrid bike, but my racing bike is literally the perfect size for me. I'm REALLY SHORT so it is hard to find bikes small enough for me, and I don't want to go through another search.

Weight limit - not sure the pounds. Its perfect for my laptop and lunch bag, but I would hesitate to go grocery shopping and try to bring home 40 lbs of cat litter or something.

My bike is a hybrid, but has a carbon rear triangle and disc brakes.  Right now  I have a large storage box on it, but it pushes me up further on the seat.  I'd like to switch to panniers, but got frustrated this fall when trying to find a setup that wouldn't theoretically swing into my rear tire.  Perhaps you could post a pic of your setup.  It might be that I'm just over thinking that hazard.

My nice race bike is a Giant TCR Advanced SL, so the seat post is a no go, might try the backpack again on it.  I'll post pictures of my bikes tonight.  Maybe I could use my hauling bike and put the TCR in the trailer?
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: PindyStache on January 12, 2015, 07:25:42 PM
I kinda want to try this winter riding but I am not set up for it yet. I have a few questions.

How do you handle kid pick up? My wife drops the kids off at school and I then pick them up. I get off work at 3:30 pm and he gets out at 3:48 pm.

How in the heck do you handle the cold. I have Raynauds ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raynaud's_phenomenon ) and the cold weather kills me. It hurts my hands the worst.

What type of bikes do you ride? This is what I have with no mods as of yet. http://www.amazon.com/Schwinn-Mens-Prelude-Bicycle-BBWhite/dp/B004QM22HC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421090651&sr=8-1&keywords=schwinn+prelude

1. I have a 3 y.o. With an old Burley trailer off CL we are good down to about 0 degrees F with a windchill so far. When we get there (~2.5 miles/15 minutes) he is still pretty warm and has fogged up the front cover. I just leave the trailer at daycare with an extra lock. If you are just doing pick-up you'd probably have to stop at home, get the trailer, then go to daycare.

2. bar mitts are good. You could also consider warming packets or try and rig up a way to carry some of the re-usable microwave heat packs within the bar mitts or something??? I have the opposite problem though.

3. This winter I picked up an old, Specialized Hardrock basic non-suspension mountain bike. Been working pretty well aside from a broken spoke and busted bearing in the bottom bracket so far. I imagine the bike you posted would work fine. The most important parts are having good lights/safety gear/clothing and maintaining it properly.

3. I'm not sure how, but apparently there is a wrong way to wear a balaclava. My ears were very cold on the way home. Will investigate.

I find the same thing--my headband is much thicker than my balaclava so even though it keeps my face/neck warmer my ears get cold. I sometimes just wear them both if it's cold enough.

Last night's 10-mile ride was about the most intense bike-riding experience I can remember. After clearing out our driveway and sidewalk I decided to take a ride during the blizzard. Most of the snow was already on the ground and blowing around. It was light and powdery. But the roads were not cleared, nor was the bike path. I rode side-streets to the green-line trail, including some stretches of 3-4 inch deep powder. The green-line and LRT trails were kind of cleared off, but maybe just from the high winds. Saw about a half-dozen other bikers.
Maybe we waved at each other that night! :) I also go by Minnehaha Falls on my commute. At least there is some water in the creek this year to make those beautiful icicles.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: ohyonghao on January 12, 2015, 09:34:21 PM
As promised, here are my three bikes.  After taking these pictures I then promptly rearranged the garage with them all lined up and ready to ride.  Still working on the best setup for having 1 car and 4 bikes + trailer and workbench.

Also on the hybrid I just raised the saddle a little today and moved it slightly forward, which results in increasing the distance between the rack and the saddle, but not neccissarily between the saddle and the container.  May try squeezing a small piece of wood on the bottom to keep the container from reaching the saddle.  Also tried a new way of using the bungee cords with hopes it becomes more stable.  Will see how it works out tomorrow.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: rocketpj on January 12, 2015, 10:27:04 PM
Just caught up and entered my klicks so far. 

Auspiciously (especially on MMM) when I got to the ferry terminal halfway through my commute on the 1st, I looked down and saw a $20 on the ground.  Of course I picked it up, and a nice asian woman nearby saw me and said 'good luck, happy new year'. 

Of course rationally it means nothing, but I'm going to go ahead and call it a good omen for the year and a friendly nudge from the powers that be to keep riding my bike.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 13, 2015, 04:49:30 AM
3. I'm not sure how, but apparently there is a wrong way to wear a balaclava. My ears were very cold on the way home. Will investigate.

I find the same thing--my headband is much thicker than my balaclava so even though it keeps my face/neck warmer my ears get cold. I sometimes just wear them both if it's cold enough.

It was weird. It was only the way I wore the balaclava. I wore it on the way in, and I've worn it in much colder temps without issue. Just something about the way it was sitting yesterday.

Also, does anyone else get the desire to change the pronunciation of balaclava by switching the syllables around to more closely match baklava? So instead of ba-la-cla-va say it like bala-clava? I made a joke about it a couple weeks ago, and now I have to catch myself in order to say it right.

As promised, here are my three bikes.  After taking these pictures I then promptly rearranged the garage with them all lined up and ready to ride.  Still working on the best setup for having 1 car and 4 bikes + trailer and workbench.

After seeing the file names on the picture, I wanted to attache pictures of my bike, from 3 different angles, possibly wearing different clothes, with different labels. It'd be funny, but way too much work.

Also, what is the difference between your workhorse and your hybrid? I'm guessing you are riding your hybrid (because of the box), but the workhorse has everything you need to run panniers, or even just a more comfortable position for the box. Is it significantly heavier or something? Maybe no lockouts on the suspension. Just curious.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 13, 2015, 08:00:18 AM
Met and rode with someone on the way in today. Rode the last few miles with him. I told him about the challenge, so maybe he'll show up here. Ah! Bike friends.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 13, 2015, 08:03:09 AM
Oh, and unless I can find some errands to run that will take up 4 miles, I will have broken my record by the time I get to work tomorrow. New personal best of all time...in January!!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Thegoblinchief on January 13, 2015, 09:35:03 AM
B4u2 - does your 8 year old ride? That's easy distance, and you said 1 mile from work to school? Plenty of time for you to pick up.

If they're not super confident, trail-a-bikes can be found cheaply on CL and are usually rated for up to 100-150 pounds. Be prepared for the bike to feel a bit squirrelly handling wise until you get used to how it changes the balance.

For the Reynauds, my wife has it and I've yet to get her riding in cold weather, partly because she's still relearning how to ride and not super confident on the bike yet. Layers are your friend, especially GoreTex or similar as an outer to eliminate wind chill. Also, the warmer you keep your core, the less your body cuts circulation to the extremities. Usually my hands are coldest at the beginning, and are quite warm once my heart rate and core temp go up.

So for gloves, I'd look at something that has a water/windproof layer. Buy from a place like REI that has a solid return policy if you use them and still aren't satisfied.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 13, 2015, 09:50:13 AM
So for gloves, I'd look at something that has a water/windproof layer. Buy from a place like REI that has a solid return policy if you use them and still aren't satisfied.

One thing to add, and the only reason I thought about this is because I screwed up this morning, if you wind up sweating in gloves, turn them inside out once you get to your destination, because waterproof == take forever to dry. It took me like 4 miles this morning before I got feeling back in my fingertips.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Thegoblinchief on January 13, 2015, 09:55:27 AM
So for gloves, I'd look at something that has a water/windproof layer. Buy from a place like REI that has a solid return policy if you use them and still aren't satisfied.

One thing to add, and the only reason I thought about this is because I screwed up this morning, if you wind up sweating in gloves, turn them inside out once you get to your destination, because waterproof == take forever to dry. It took me like 4 miles this morning before I got feeling back in my fingertips.

Mine don't take that long to dry out. If I'm storing the bike indoors (like at work), I slip them over the handle bars to keep them open. Otherwise prop them up cuff side down at your desk. You want them as fluffy/open as possible and they'll dry in an hour or two tops. If you squeeze them in a pocket or store them smashed together, sure, they'll never dry out.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Jon_Snow on January 13, 2015, 10:06:05 AM
For what it's worth, been doing 10 miles a day (50 miles per week) since the start of 2015. All uphill (Level 15)...uh, not actually going anywhere. Yes, stationary bike at gym. :)

Knowing the cycling purists here, probably doesn't count. ;)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: b4u2 on January 13, 2015, 11:23:56 AM
My interrupter brake levers came in. Once I am done working on my shower I hope to spend some time working on my bicycle. Need to order a few more things for it like thorn proofs and possibly alligator tires.

I'll check out REI.

He can ride a bike. Just not sure about getting it to the school. I might try biking on the weekends when I know there is not a rush to get him and see how it works out. I'll have to check my times so that I am not late getting him.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: TrMama on January 13, 2015, 12:03:23 PM
I agree that for your situation, having your son ride his own bike is probably the way to go. If you have to use busy roads or navigate complicated intersections you may want to start with a trail-a-bike.

However, I've never used our trail-a-bike with my road bike. When the child is on the trail-a-bike there is some side to side movement which I find tricky to stabilize. I much prefer the straight bars of my mountain bike to mitigate this movement. However, I'm also a small-ish woman. If you have more upper body strength it may not be as big a deal.

When you start riding with your son on his own bike. Have him ride in front of you. This lets you see exactly what he's doing and you can call out instructions to him.

For the morning trip, you could get a rack for your wife's car. Or he may be able to ride by himself (depending on road conditions and after some practice) and your wife could just check that he arrived safely.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Thegoblinchief on January 13, 2015, 01:00:47 PM
+1 to having the kid(s) ride in front of you. My older two ride in front of me and we've gone from only riding on quiet side streets to riding on busy arterials, even without bike lanes.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: ohyonghao on January 13, 2015, 01:08:06 PM
3. I'm not sure how, but apparently there is a wrong way to wear a balaclava. My ears were very cold on the way home. Will investigate.

I find the same thing--my headband is much thicker than my balaclava so even though it keeps my face/neck warmer my ears get cold. I sometimes just wear them both if it's cold enough.

It was weird. It was only the way I wore the balaclava. I wore it on the way in, and I've worn it in much colder temps without issue. Just something about the way it was sitting yesterday.

Also, does anyone else get the desire to change the pronunciation of balaclava by switching the syllables around to more closely match baklava? So instead of ba-la-cla-va say it like bala-clava? I made a joke about it a couple weeks ago, and now I have to catch myself in order to say it right.
I find that with glasses inside the balaclava the wind penetrates more.  My riding glasses grip my head enough outside the balaclava that I put them on after the balaclava but before the helmet.  For normal rx glasses you can get a strap that connects to both sides and goes around your head to hold them on.

I too had a lot of trouble remembering how to pronounce balaclava, and kept wanting to add an r, like baraclava, or something.
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As promised, here are my three bikes.  After taking these pictures I then promptly rearranged the garage with them all lined up and ready to ride.  Still working on the best setup for having 1 car and 4 bikes + trailer and workbench.

After seeing the file names on the picture, I wanted to attache pictures of my bike, from 3 different angles, possibly wearing different clothes, with different labels. It'd be funny, but way too much work.

Also, what is the difference between your workhorse and your hybrid? I'm guessing you are riding your hybrid (because of the box), but the workhorse has everything you need to run panniers, or even just a more comfortable position for the box. Is it significantly heavier or something? Maybe no lockouts on the suspension. Just curious.
I just got the workhorse back, it was out on loan.  It's not as comfortable to ride, has twist shifters on the flats, and the tires are nearly bald (okay, I could easily just replace the tires).  When I first started biking to work I didn't have the workhorse, then in September/October when I was getting a little frustrated with my current setup the workhorse was on loan.  It may be another avenue to investigate, then I could move my hybrid to more hybridish tasks.  I could also upgrade the components on the workhorse to get trigger shifters, and fix the angle on the saddle, possibly replace the saddle too.

The ride this morning wasn't bad, having the seat a little higher felt much better, and I could get further back on the saddle.  I might actually lower the saddle a little bit again as I feel I may have raised it slightly too high.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 13, 2015, 03:00:05 PM
So I just got "attacked" by a dog. Will elaborate once I get home.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 13, 2015, 05:17:20 PM
I've always considered myself an advocate, but I never thought I did enough to be considered worthy of the title 'Bicycle Advocate'...until today.

On my way home today, I passed by a guy playing with his dog in the park. Nothing unusual...unless you aren't in Colorado Springs (cause it's awesome), and think that playing with your dog in the snow is weird. And then the dog came after me. Now, this has happened before, but it's never bothered me, since I love dogs, and I've dealt with the truly damaged ones, and don't flinch (I'll probably expand on that in my journal). Usually, even with strays, I jump off the bike and confront the dog, and I've been extremely successful doing that. Well snow, and my newish panniers, and the ice and snow, stopping quickly and dismounting wasn't an option. So the dog had a go at me. Fortunately, I'm a damn ninja, and avoided the bites. Granted, the dog was an australian shepherd mix, so it wasn't very bitey, just tried to 'herd' me. I finally got stopped after pushing the dog off, and confronted the dog, which went back to his owner, who was understandably freaked out. Well, I wasn't hurt, and I wanted to make sure the dog was okay. Plus, in the back of my mind, I must have sensed...some potential. I wasn't mad or anything. It happens, and it's usually because a dog wasn't trained. So I went back to the guy, made sure the pup was okay, and struck up a conversation...since biking is awesome, and I'm an unusually nice person when riding. He was apologizing, naturally, and I told him not to worry about. Actually, I asked him if the dog had been trained on what to do when a biker came by. He looked confused, so I grabbed a cheese stick from my bag, and gave the guy some pointers and the cheese stick. He had the dog on leash, and put him into a sit every time I passed (since I had time). It took all of ten minutes, and he will need to continue working with the dog, but that dog is going to sit every time a biker comes by. Everything about this experience was just awesome.

I turned off the GoPro since the dude was freaking out, thinking I was trying to set him up (what a shitty way to live), but I got the attached shot right before the dog came at me after I pushed it away the first time.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Primm on January 13, 2015, 07:08:57 PM
Nice work on the education jordan. :) You earned the mantle of Bicycle Advocate today.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 13, 2015, 08:52:36 PM
Nice work on the education jordan. :) You earned the mantle of Bicycle Advocate today.
That means a whole lot. Thank you.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: mtbiker on January 13, 2015, 09:07:04 PM
Good Evening Everyone,
  I met Jordan this morning on our wonderfully snowy and windless ride to work, and he turned me onto this challenge so I signed up tonight.

From reading the posts, seems like a good group of riders and I look forward to hanging with you all talking bikes and discussing the poor car commuters that we pass every day while riding our bikes as we smile all the way to work!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 13, 2015, 09:20:05 PM
Good Evening Everyone,
  I met Jordan this morning on our wonderfully snowy and windless ride to work, and he turned me onto this challenge so I signed up tonight.

From reading the posts, seems like a good group of riders and I look forward to hanging with you all talking bikes and discussing the poor car commuters that we pass every day while riding our bikes as we smile all the way to work!
Glad to have you! Maybe I'll catch you tomorrow too. Regardless, feel free to hit me up via pm here. There is a lot more going on around here.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: mtbiker on January 14, 2015, 08:04:27 AM
Well Jordan, I think I just missed you this morning.  I saw some fresh tracks so I was wondering if that was you and, I also saw some fresh track on the Dirt Jumps up by the skate park.    Was that you have some fun?   Looked like someone had gotten off the trail, hit the dirt jumps and did a lap on them, then the tracks came out the other end.    Dirt Jumps in the snow.  I would say that's badassity. :)

Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: mskyle on January 14, 2015, 08:35:23 AM
Yesterday I had a head-on collision with an SUV (no injuries to self or bike) *and* my 5-year-old front shifter cable gave up the ghost leaving me stuck in the spinny gears. But I still got in 15.6 miles, according to my phone app! So I am feeling reasonably badass.

(Bike is going to have a day or two off at the Bike Doctor, leaving me to walk and take the bus/subway like some kind of animal.)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 14, 2015, 08:43:06 AM
Well Jordan, I think I just missed you this morning.  I saw some fresh tracks so I was wondering if that was you and, I also saw some fresh track on the Dirt Jumps up by the skate park.    Was that you have some fun?   Looked like someone had gotten off the trail, hit the dirt jumps and did a lap on them, then the tracks came out the other end.    Dirt Jumps in the snow.  I would say that's badassity. :)

Ha! I did take those jumps in the snow once, just to see how secure my new pannier was. Alas, those were not my tracks this morning. On Monday, I moved my bike into my office at home. I'm still learning the quirks of it, though. I set my shoes too close to the bike and some of the snow that fell off went right into my cycling shoes. They were soaking wet this morning, and I'm still waiting for them to dry before I head in. At some point later this year, I might get some dual platform SPD pedals (http://amzn.com/B000F5EG50) so I'm not dependent on my single pair of shoes to bike.

Yesterday I had a head-on collision with an SUV (no injuries to self or bike) *and* my 5-year-old front shifter cable gave up the ghost leaving me stuck in the spinny gears. But I still got in 15.6 miles, according to my phone app! So I am feeling reasonably badass.

(Bike is going to have a day or two off at the Bike Doctor, leaving me to walk and take the bus/subway like some kind of animal.)

Sorry for the accident and the bike troubles, but yes...15.6 miles in spinny gears (great term btw) is badass.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: b4u2 on January 14, 2015, 10:08:58 AM
My gear breakdown (been used successfully to -7°F...and I'll probably give them a shot down to -20°F):

  • Venzo Mountain Bike Bicycle Cycling Shimano SPD Shoes + Pedals & Cleats (http://amzn.com/B00811Y35S)
  • Pearl Izumi Elite Barrier Mtb Shoe Cover (http://amzn.com/B004N62JK6)
  • Pearl Izumi Attack Short (http://amzn.com/B005OTO6WA)
  • Paradox Mens Merino Blend Base Layer Pants (http://amzn.com/B00JZYI65S)
  • Pearl Izumi Men's Quest Jersey (http://amzn.com/B00915YPLU)
  • Pearl Izumi Barrier Balaclava - Men's (http://amzn.com/B00280MJYU)
  • Devon & Jones Men's Hooded Soft Shell Jacket (http://amzn.com/B00GNKEL2O) (My jacket is similar to this one...it was shwag from work)
  • Pearl Izumi Men's Elite Thermal Arm Warmer (http://amzn.com/B007FWFEPC)(Have yet to actually need these...if the jacket is too warm, the jersey on it's own is fine)
  • Seirus Innovation Men's Max All Weather Glove (http://amzn.com/B005ED2CFO) (My hands get super warm in these, and even at 10°F, I'll usually switch to regular cycling gloves after 2-3 miles)

Do you then change out of all this gear when you get to work? Are the shoes for riding only?

I'm still trying to grasp the bicycle concept and I am probably making it too complicated. I work in a very large factory and there are not any areas to really change. Now my ride would only be 2 miles so maybe I could get by on less? I typically wear Harley boots, carpenter jeans, and a tshirt to work. Boots are not exactly bicycle friendly but do work perfect on the harley. I don't even like riding my harley in the rain because road surface conditions worry me and now I am thinking a bicycle in snow....smh
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 14, 2015, 10:33:44 AM
My gear breakdown (been used successfully to -7°F...and I'll probably give them a shot down to -20°F):

  • Venzo Mountain Bike Bicycle Cycling Shimano SPD Shoes + Pedals & Cleats (http://amzn.com/B00811Y35S)
  • Pearl Izumi Elite Barrier Mtb Shoe Cover (http://amzn.com/B004N62JK6)
  • Pearl Izumi Attack Short (http://amzn.com/B005OTO6WA)
  • Paradox Mens Merino Blend Base Layer Pants (http://amzn.com/B00JZYI65S)
  • Pearl Izumi Men's Quest Jersey (http://amzn.com/B00915YPLU)
  • Pearl Izumi Barrier Balaclava - Men's (http://amzn.com/B00280MJYU)
  • Devon & Jones Men's Hooded Soft Shell Jacket (http://amzn.com/B00GNKEL2O) (My jacket is similar to this one...it was shwag from work)
  • Pearl Izumi Men's Elite Thermal Arm Warmer (http://amzn.com/B007FWFEPC)(Have yet to actually need these...if the jacket is too warm, the jersey on it's own is fine)
  • Seirus Innovation Men's Max All Weather Glove (http://amzn.com/B005ED2CFO) (My hands get super warm in these, and even at 10°F, I'll usually switch to regular cycling gloves after 2-3 miles)

Do you then change out of all this gear when you get to work? Are the shoes for riding only?

I'm still trying to grasp the bicycle concept and I am probably making it too complicated. I work in a very large factory and there are not any areas to really change. Now my ride would only be 2 miles so maybe I could get by on less? I typically wear Harley boots, carpenter jeans, and a tshirt to work. Boots are not exactly bicycle friendly but do work perfect on the harley. I don't even like riding my harley in the rain because road surface conditions worry me and now I am thinking a bicycle in snow....smh

The shoes are for riding only, which I really dislike. It's actually why I put off getting them for so long. My problem is that I only wear minimalist shoes (when I do wear shoes), so I wouldn't even bother with the hybrid bike shoes, which would have made life a bit easier. The only thing I do when I get to work is take off the jersey and the bike shorts, but I keep on the base layer. I only wind up carrying an extra shirt, since I wear my regular pants over everything else, and my shoes. It doesn't take that long. As far as boots go, you'll be fine. You may want to ask thegoblinchief about his traction pins. I know he rides with boots during the winter too. Personally, I have some issues with flexibility when I wear jeans, but if yours are a touch baggy, you might be good. The base layers and jersey are only to have a wicking fabric close to the skin. Makes a huge difference. I don't even need to shower when I get to work. Just wait until you are dry (about 15 minutes) and then change, maybe reapply deodorant.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Wolf_Stache on January 14, 2015, 10:41:48 AM
Cool story. I need to get a go-pro one of these days. However my bike budget was blown this month with new panniers (the strap broke on my old ones).

Modify to add:
It's stuff like this or the accident I was in earlier that makes me wish I had one. I posted this on the spreadsheet, but not here - I saw someone commuting on one of these the other day.

(http://gajitz.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/solowheel-2.jpg)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 14, 2015, 10:56:10 AM
Cool story. I need to get a go-pro one of these days. However my bike budget was blown this month with new panniers (the strap broke on my old ones).

Modify to add:
It's stuff like this or the accident I was in earlier that makes me wish I had one. I posted this on the spreadsheet, but not here - I saw someone commuting on one of these the other day.

(http://gajitz.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/solowheel-2.jpg)

I saw that in the spreadsheet. I'm still not sure how I feel about it though. One of the great things about the GoPro is all the different mounts and what not. I picked up about $150 worth of mounts in a package deal that REI had over memorial day (I think). Keep an eye out for sales and be patient. They are pricey normally.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: mskyle on January 14, 2015, 10:59:52 AM


Do you then change out of all this gear when you get to work? Are the shoes for riding only?

I'm still trying to grasp the bicycle concept and I am probably making it too complicated. I work in a very large factory and there are not any areas to really change. Now my ride would only be 2 miles so maybe I could get by on less? I typically wear Harley boots, carpenter jeans, and a tshirt to work. Boots are not exactly bicycle friendly but do work perfect on the harley. I don't even like riding my harley in the rain because road surface conditions worry me and now I am thinking a bicycle in snow....smh

For me, in winter, I just wear my regular clothes with extra layers. I'm a woman and I work in an office environment, so my clothes are going to be different from yours but, fwiw, here's what I wore to work today (no snow, ~15F and breezy, 4 miles each way):

Things I'll keep wearing all day indoors:

Things I took off once I got to my desk:

If it's colder I'll substitute a puffy jacket (down or down substitute) for the cardigan and add an additional layer for my legs (trousers or more long johns). And sometimes I ride in my wool peacoat, like if I'm going someplace a little fancier.

In general I find I need to dress a little warmer for biking than I do for walking, but significantly less warm than you would for motorcycling, because you work up more of a sweat. Don't let a lack of gear hold you back! The gear is just about fine-tuning, it's not a *requirement*. Especially for a two-mile ride, you don't even really need to work up a sweat for that (well maybe in summer).
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: TrMama on January 14, 2015, 12:06:06 PM
I set my shoes too close to the bike and some of the snow that fell off went right into my cycling shoes. They were soaking wet this morning, and I'm still waiting for them to dry before I head in. At some point later this year, I might get some dual platform SPD pedals (http://amzn.com/B000F5EG50) so I'm not dependent on my single pair of shoes to bike.


I've been known to ride short-ish distances with running shoes on my SPD pedals. They work just like flat pedals, just not as comfortable for long distances ;-)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: TrMama on January 14, 2015, 12:09:02 PM
My gear breakdown (been used successfully to -7°F...and I'll probably give them a shot down to -20°F):

  • Venzo Mountain Bike Bicycle Cycling Shimano SPD Shoes + Pedals & Cleats (http://amzn.com/B00811Y35S)
  • Pearl Izumi Elite Barrier Mtb Shoe Cover (http://amzn.com/B004N62JK6)
  • Pearl Izumi Attack Short (http://amzn.com/B005OTO6WA)
  • Paradox Mens Merino Blend Base Layer Pants (http://amzn.com/B00JZYI65S)
  • Pearl Izumi Men's Quest Jersey (http://amzn.com/B00915YPLU)
  • Pearl Izumi Barrier Balaclava - Men's (http://amzn.com/B00280MJYU)
  • Devon & Jones Men's Hooded Soft Shell Jacket (http://amzn.com/B00GNKEL2O) (My jacket is similar to this one...it was shwag from work)
  • Pearl Izumi Men's Elite Thermal Arm Warmer (http://amzn.com/B007FWFEPC)(Have yet to actually need these...if the jacket is too warm, the jersey on it's own is fine)
  • Seirus Innovation Men's Max All Weather Glove (http://amzn.com/B005ED2CFO) (My hands get super warm in these, and even at 10°F, I'll usually switch to regular cycling gloves after 2-3 miles)

Do you then change out of all this gear when you get to work? Are the shoes for riding only?

I'm still trying to grasp the bicycle concept and I am probably making it too complicated. I work in a very large factory and there are not any areas to really change. Now my ride would only be 2 miles so maybe I could get by on less? I typically wear Harley boots, carpenter jeans, and a tshirt to work. Boots are not exactly bicycle friendly but do work perfect on the harley. I don't even like riding my harley in the rain because road surface conditions worry me and now I am thinking a bicycle in snow....smh

For a 2 mi commute, you really don't need much gear beyond a helmet. I wouldn't bother with anything other than flat pedals and ordinary clothes. Your work boots will be fine  and they probably have a nice stiff sole that will work well for biking. You may want to bring a change of pants in case the ones you wear to ride get wet on the way.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: maxap on January 15, 2015, 05:44:31 AM
Hello guys,
Just joined the challenge. Might get me out there more often. Heading out tomorrow for 80-90 hilly km with friends. Happy riding.
Maxap
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Thegoblinchief on January 15, 2015, 06:07:18 AM
Hello guys,
Just joined the challenge. Might get me out there more often. Heading out tomorrow for 80-90 hilly km with friends. Happy riding.
Maxap

That sounds fun! Welcome!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 15, 2015, 06:18:25 AM
Man, today was a mixed bag. I don't know if I didn't sleep well, or the working from home yesterday, or the squats and T25 total body circuit, or alcohol withdrawals or whatever, but my body forgot how to ride this morning. I couldn't keep my cadence, and it felt like so much resistance that I checked every couple of minutes if my tire was flat. Slow, painful, and long feeling ride. Hopefully the ride home will be better. It should be, since it's supposed to be 50°F, which will be nice. On the other side of things, we are less than halfway through the month, and I broke my personal best about halfway in today!! Which says two things to me:


Glad to have all the new people joining in. Happy Cycling!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Roadhog on January 15, 2015, 06:47:05 AM
My total mileage doesn't appear to be registering on the spreadsheet. Not sure if I'm entering it wrong.

Love the motivation. I've never commuted by bike in January and already I've done it 3 times so far this month.  Love hearing the stories of biking in snow and ice. 
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 15, 2015, 06:57:07 AM
My total mileage doesn't appear to be registering on the spreadsheet. Not sure if I'm entering it wrong.

Love the motivation. I've never commuted by bike in January and already I've done it 3 times so far this month.  Love hearing the stories of biking in snow and ice.

I've got you fixed.

Just so everyone is aware, and I'll send out some PMs later, do not manually modify the Summary sheet. To log your miles, use the sheet with your name on it, and everything else will be calculated automatically.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: b4u2 on January 15, 2015, 07:13:31 AM
It's really cool reading about people here doing Beachbody workouts (T25,Insanity,others). I am a coach (I really stink at coaching but I try) and I do Body Beast currently.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 15, 2015, 07:29:30 AM
It's really cool reading about people here doing Beachbody workouts (T25,Insanity,others). I am a coach (I really stink at coaching but I try) and I do Body Beast currently.

I don't actually do the programs, I just randomly pick a workout out of my library for my GF and I to do together. She made her own plan, which is a mix of Insanity, P90X, Slim In 6, Butt Bible, and a couple of other ones. We usually do either Les Mills, Insanity, or T25 in the evenings. Keeps things interesting. :-)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: mskyle on January 15, 2015, 07:44:13 AM
Bike is in the shop getting new cables, brake pads, chain, and cassette (first time I've replaced anything but brake pads and tires/tubes since I bought the bike five-plus years ago), but I was able to ride one of this noble steed from the subway to work:
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Kmp2 on January 15, 2015, 07:50:53 AM
Alright - first bike of 2015 was today...

A bunch of news before Christmas, and I moved offices again... this time only 2k from the house... which is good and bad... I have a whole extra hour to my day! But I have been walking until my underground bike parkade access is granted. And after all that work the last couple of months figuring out what clothes work best for 60 minutes @ -20C... (0F), now I have to figure out how to stay warm in my work clothes for 10 minutes or so while not working myself into a sweaty mess for the day. Today was fairly good, but it was a nice warm morning just below freezing.

On the other hand, I really have no excuse not to bike every day :)
But I will no longer be racking up any miles :(
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Wolf_Stache on January 15, 2015, 10:35:34 AM
I was going over the train tracks near my work today when I hear a crunch and feel resistance on my rear wheel. Stop and pull my bike up on to the sidewalk.... my seat-posted mounted rack support beam SNAPPED IN HALF! I didn't even use my panniers today - my lunch and kindle were just bungie corded to the rack.

That rack served me well for almost 10 years... sigh. Guess I'll need to buy a new rack this month in addition to the new panniers.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 15, 2015, 03:10:19 PM
Alright - first bike of 2015 was today...

A bunch of news before Christmas, and I moved offices again... this time only 2k from the house... which is good and bad... I have a hole extra hour to my day! But I have been walking until my underground bike parkade access is granted. And after all that work the last couple of months figuring out what clothes work best for 60 minutes @ -20C... (0F), now I have to figure out how to stay warm in my work clothes for 10 minutes or so while not working myself into a sweaty mess for the day. Today was fairly good, but it was a nice warm morning just below freezing.

On the other hand, I really have no excuse not to bike every day :)
But I will no longer be racking up any miles :(

The SO and I are moving at some point this year, and one of the spots we're looking at is only 3 miles from work...I hesitate, because then I would have to do things to keep my miles up. :-) Congrats on the 'upgraded ride' though!! I would love to hear a story about going in straight up dressed up for work in super cold temps. People would really freak out. Also, a pic like the last one, but with a business casual look would totally qualify as badass!

I was going over the train tracks near my work today when I hear a crunch and feel resistance on my rear wheel. Stop and pull my bike up on to the sidewalk.... my seat-posted mounted rack support beam SNAPPED IN HALF! I didn't even use my panniers today - my lunch and kindle were just bungie corded to the rack.

That rack served me well for almost 10 years... sigh. Guess I'll need to buy a new rack this month in addition to the new panniers.

10 years is pretty damn good. I have no interest in getting a racing or road bike (which is why I refuse to try them :P), but I don't envy not having a rack. I think that increases your badassity quotient by at least 1.3. There are a few things I would really like to buy, but I'm waiting since I spent a ridiculous amount on gear in the past 2 months. What panniers are you getting? Oh, and I'm sure others would be interested in the rack you get.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Wolf_Stache on January 15, 2015, 03:27:33 PM
Not sure what rack I'm getting, but these are the panniers:

https://clarijs-fietstassen.nl/en/clarijs-balls-bicycle-pannier-morocco-blue

There is a dutch bike co in Ballard that carries them. I picked it up on Sunday. A bit of a splurge, but my last one was too small, so several times I had to bus in because of packages I needed to mail or things I had to take to/from office.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 15, 2015, 03:47:16 PM
Not sure what rack I'm getting, but these are the panniers:

https://clarijs-fietstassen.nl/en/clarijs-balls-bicycle-pannier-morocco-blue

There is a dutch bike co in Ballard that carries them. I picked it up on Sunday. A bit of a splurge, but my last one was too small, so several times I had to bus in because of packages I needed to mail or things I had to take to/from office.

That is definitely a unique design. I like it!! As far it being a bit of a splurge:
Phfttt (or whatever way you spell that sound). Not nearly as pricey as you could have done. I bought an Arkel Commuter. On sale, that one pannier cost me $150. Apparently they don't make it anymore (which hopefully means they spent so much money on it's awesomeness that it wasn't worth carrying...especially w/ the lifetime guarantee), but the replacement is similar: Arkel Commuter urban pannier (http://www.arkel-od.com/us/commuting-bike-bag.html).
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 15, 2015, 04:26:55 PM
I had to add this. I apologize in advance if you get all weird about it, mostly because I feel sorry for you. I've recently expanded the threads I look at, and while reading thegoblinchief's journal (http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/journals/thegoblinchief's-venting-chamber/), I found this wonderful person (http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/profile/?u=7415), who made some awesome posts. Following the links in said person's signature, I found some really awesome articles, which everyone should appreciate (at least everyone in this thread). But mostly, I found this awesome breakdown on why it's better to rob a bank by bike than by car. It made me giggle, and I hope it does the same for you (although I will happily accept LOLs, spitting beverages, chortling, snickering, a shit-eating grin, or a hiccup giggle)-if your response is not one of these...I will accept anything else, too:

Why Bank Robbers Should Use Bicycles Instead of Getaway Cars
 (http://www.phred.org/~alex/kenkifer/www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/humor/robbery.htm)

Quote from: whoever wrote the above linked article
Unfortunately, our society sends the message that cars are much more useful than bicycles to all members of society, both those involved in lawful activities and those involved in unlawful activities. There are many groups who make the effort to teach those involved in lawful activities that they should be riding bicycles, but no effort is made at all to encourage those who engage in unlawful activities. (NOTE: I am not referring to violating the traffic code, which could get a criminal into unnecessary trouble.) But don't those involved in crime need aerobic exercise as much as does the general public? Couldn't they benefit from the other advantages of a bicycle? Wouldn't it be safer for the public if their crimes were committed using bicycles rather than using cars? Therefore, the following recommendations have been advanced.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 15, 2015, 05:48:24 PM
I had to add this. I apologize in advance if you get all weird about it, mostly because I feel sorry for you. I've recently expanded the threads I look at, and while reading thegoblinchief's journal (http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/journals/thegoblinchief's-venting-chamber/), I found this wonderful person (http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/profile/?u=7415), who made some awesome posts. Following the links in said person's signature, I found some really awesome articles, which everyone should appreciate (at least everyone in this thread). But mostly, I found this awesome breakdown on why it's better to rob a bank by bike than by car. It made me giggle, and I hope it does the same for you (although I will happily accept LOLs, spitting beverages, chortling, snickering, a shit-eating grin, or a hiccup giggle)-if your response is not one of these...I will accept anything else, too:

Why Bank Robbers Should Use Bicycles Instead of Getaway Cars
 (http://www.phred.org/~alex/kenkifer/www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/humor/robbery.htm)

Quote from: whoever wrote the above linked article
Unfortunately, our society sends the message that cars are much more useful than bicycles to all members of society, both those involved in lawful activities and those involved in unlawful activities. There are many groups who make the effort to teach those involved in lawful activities that they should be riding bicycles, but no effort is made at all to encourage those who engage in unlawful activities. (NOTE: I am not referring to violating the traffic code, which could get a criminal into unnecessary trouble.) But don't those involved in crime need aerobic exercise as much as does the general public? Couldn't they benefit from the other advantages of a bicycle? Wouldn't it be safer for the public if their crimes were committed using bicycles rather than using cars? Therefore, the following recommendations have been advanced.
Hhahahaha this is great
I especially enjoyed this part (in the context of abandoning your vehicle to run on foot): " You do, however, need to be sure that your bike shoes do not have cleats on the bottom that would interfere with running"
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: b4u2 on January 16, 2015, 06:17:30 AM
So those of you that ride in the snow regions what do you ride or what is preferred? I currently have a road bike (Schwinn Prelude/cheap) and that works great on the nicely paved trails. It needs tubes and tires upgrades do handle these other routes they call roads here. I am looking at thorn proofs and duraskin gator tires. Blown 4 tubes so far and getting frustrated trying to ride the road bike on the actual roads. I do have a cheap Schwinn mountain bike but it needs some adjustments, possible it's too small for me because it feels odd when I'm riding it. It was a craigslist cheapo purchase. Lot of snow and ice here in Iowa with narrow roads.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: crazy jane on January 16, 2015, 07:05:56 AM
Thank you Jordanread for keeping this challenge updated every month. I've been doing the challenge for two years now and hope to continue and have a goal to be in the 1000 mile club at the end of 2015. Today was my first day back on the bike  as DH had some surgery and have been playing Nurse CrazyJane. It felt sooooo great to be back in the saddle. Happy cycling 2015 everyone.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: mskyle on January 16, 2015, 07:52:52 AM
So those of you that ride in the snow regions what do you ride or what is preferred? I currently have a road bike (Schwinn Prelude/cheap) and that works great on the nicely paved trails. It needs tubes and tires upgrades do handle these other routes they call roads here. I am looking at thorn proofs and duraskin gator tires. Blown 4 tubes so far and getting frustrated trying to ride the road bike on the actual roads. I do have a cheap Schwinn mountain bike but it needs some adjustments, possible it's too small for me because it feels odd when I'm riding it. It was a craigslist cheapo purchase. Lot of snow and ice here in Iowa with narrow roads.

I find puncture-resistant tires to be worth it - I had no punctures in 5 years with my Bontrager (Trek house brand) puncture resistant tires and when rubber started to decay I went for Gatorskins. I commute 8 miles roundtrip in the Boston area, a land rich in potholes and broken glass. I did buy a pair of inexpensive touring tires (with more tread - the Gatorskins are a bit slick now that the snow's coming on a regular basis) but I haven't been able to rustle up the energy to switch them out yet, so I can't compare. We haven't had a lot of accumulating snow yet and the streets I travel are well-plowed and salted... if I have to ride through more than a half-inch or so, I'm going to bit the bullet and change the tires.

(Oh, and this is on a Trek 7.3FX, standard fitness/commuter hybrid.)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Nancy on January 16, 2015, 08:17:23 AM
chortling
Why Bank Robbers Should Use Bicycles Instead of Getaway Cars

Hilarious! That was a fantastic bit of silliness. Love this part:

Quote
Although never mentioned in the police reports, bank robbers have health problems caused by the high stress of the crime.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: b4u2 on January 16, 2015, 08:57:20 AM
So the road bike with proper tires and tubes would be ok? I want to try riding tomorrow morning. I am working overtime and do not have to worry about picking kid up so I could test some times and try a route to get to the school. I will hopefully get the tube swapped out tonight. It's not a puncture proof but hopefully it will hold up until I do get one. The bike is light enough I can carry it if needed.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: mskyle on January 16, 2015, 09:20:29 AM
So the road bike with proper tires and tubes would be ok? I want to try riding tomorrow morning. I am working overtime and do not have to worry about picking kid up so I could test some times and try a route to get to the school. I will hopefully get the tube swapped out tonight. It's not a puncture proof but hopefully it will hold up until I do get one. The bike is light enough I can carry it if needed.

I say give it a try! I see people commuting on all kinds of bikes (snow and potholes aside, my community is very bike-friendly, and parking and traffic are terrible enough to make biking very attractive). I've also heard a lot of people say very dogmatic things like "If you're SERIOUS about winter bike commuting, you need X", where X is pogies, or long underwear, or special tires, or a single-speed cross bike. But clearly different things work for different people (and different commutes - a bike that works for a flat four-mile commute might not work for a 15-mile hilly one).
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Wolf_Stache on January 16, 2015, 11:43:07 AM
I had to add this. I apologize in advance if you get all weird about it, mostly because I feel sorry for you. I've recently expanded the threads I look at, and while reading thegoblinchief's journal (http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/journals/thegoblinchief's-venting-chamber/), I found this wonderful person (http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/profile/?u=7415), who made some awesome posts. Following the links in said person's signature, I found some really awesome articles, which everyone should appreciate (at least everyone in this thread). But mostly, I found this awesome breakdown on why it's better to rob a bank by bike than by car. It made me giggle, and I hope it does the same for you (although I will happily accept LOLs, spitting beverages, chortling, snickering, a shit-eating grin, or a hiccup giggle)-if your response is not one of these...I will accept anything else, too:

Why Bank Robbers Should Use Bicycles Instead of Getaway Cars
 (http://www.phred.org/~alex/kenkifer/www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/humor/robbery.htm)

Quote from: whoever wrote the above linked article
Unfortunately, our society sends the message that cars are much more useful than bicycles to all members of society, both those involved in lawful activities and those involved in unlawful activities. There are many groups who make the effort to teach those involved in lawful activities that they should be riding bicycles, but no effort is made at all to encourage those who engage in unlawful activities. (NOTE: I am not referring to violating the traffic code, which could get a criminal into unnecessary trouble.) But don't those involved in crime need aerobic exercise as much as does the general public? Couldn't they benefit from the other advantages of a bicycle? Wouldn't it be safer for the public if their crimes were committed using bicycles rather than using cars? Therefore, the following recommendations have been advanced.

OMG, that was hilarious. Love it! LOL
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: b4u2 on January 16, 2015, 08:31:36 PM
Nothing went as planned tonight so the bike didn't get fixed. I'll shoot for next weekend now.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: SCUBAstache on January 16, 2015, 08:40:39 PM
@jordanread - Thanks for directing me to the cycling challenge!  You actually inspired me to get off the couch and go for a ride today - low 40s and windy but the sun was out!  I only did 11 miles but it was great, though my fingers and toes were almost numb at the end.

What's sad is I can't remember the last time I rode. Last summer, probably. After that my time was consumed by marathon training and overtime at work. No more excuses this year - I definitely want to ride more! I'm not sure if I have an exact goal, I'll have to see how it goes.

At the moment my office is 25 miles away from my home. It sucks in the car, fun DC traffic. I did the whole thing on my bike once last year when I was feeling particularly bad ass. It was epic and I was in a fantastic mood all day. But it also took about 2.5 hours one way, lots of momentum-killing street crossings on the trails. So...great if I had nothing else to do that day!  Today, it occurred to me that I could probably ride my bike the 5 miles to the metro, ride it a ways, then either take a bus or ride the rest of the way to my office. I need to look into this option more!!  I can't believe I didn't think about this sooner, considering how miserable the commute makes me. 

I'm not sure I'm bad ass enough yet to make it a regular habit during below freezing temps and dark mornings, though. Excuses, I know!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 17, 2015, 06:24:23 AM
Today, it occurred to me that I could probably ride my bike the 5 miles to the metro, ride it a ways, then either take a bus or ride the rest of the way to my office. I need to look into this option more!!  I can't believe I didn't think about this sooner, considering how miserable the commute makes me. 
Ah yes. The hybrid commute! Always a great option - it opens up so many doors. But, knowing the DC metro, you may not save all that much money. Which still seems okay since you're saying the commute is miserable by car.
There really isn't much of a point to my comment I guess. I just like to rant about the DC metro prices - I mean, "peak of peak" hours? Really??
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: SCUBAstache on January 17, 2015, 07:41:09 AM
Today, it occurred to me that I could probably ride my bike the 5 miles to the metro, ride it a ways, then either take a bus or ride the rest of the way to my office. I need to look into this option more!!  I can't believe I didn't think about this sooner, considering how miserable the commute makes me. 
Ah yes. The hybrid commute! Always a great option - it opens up so many doors. But, knowing the DC metro, you may not save all that much money. Which still seems okay since you're saying the commute is miserable by car.
There really isn't much of a point to my comment I guess. I just like to rant about the DC metro prices - I mean, "peak of peak" hours? Really??

Yep!  It certainly is anger inducing sometimes, but less so than rush hour. I need to crunch the numbers. But you're right, even if it wouldn't save me much it might be worth the mental and physical benefits alone.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 17, 2015, 03:52:00 PM
@jordanread - Thanks for directing me to the cycling challenge!  You actually inspired me to get off the couch and go for a ride today - low 40s and windy but the sun was out!  I only did 11 miles but it was great, though my fingers and toes were almost numb at the end.

Glad you found it, and glad you are joining in. With this one, we actually have a tracking spreadsheet, so it's more of just logging your miles, comparing to everything else, sharing badassity, and the like. Check out the very first post in this thread (http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/throw-down-the-gauntlet/january-cycling-challenge-2015/msg502005/#msg502005) for instructions. You'll get added, and be able to modify your sheet and check out your contributions. Just wait until you see our 'all time' stats. The amount of driving we've prevented is amazing.

Yep!  It certainly is anger inducing sometimes, but less so than rush hour. I need to crunch the numbers. But you're right, even if it wouldn't save me much it might be worth the mental and physical benefits alone.

If you are familiar with the YMOYL real hourly rate (http://www.wikihow.com/Calculate-Your-Real-Hourly-Wage), I've found something interesting in my particular view of things. If I drive in, my real hourly rate goes down, since I continue work to start the moment I get in the car. However, I have so much fun on my bike ride, that I don't consider it part of work. It's just something super fun and healthy to do before work, that has the added benefit of getting me there.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: HappyMargo on January 18, 2015, 10:17:13 AM
Read thru all of November, December & January's Cycling threads... You guys are amazing! Oh wait, I mean, badass! :-)

Currently, I'm trying to overcome my fears & work up the nerve (plus fitness!) to begin bike commuting.

1-- it's DARK at 4:45 AM.  So I got 2 headlights & several blinky taillights & some reflective gear.

2-- it's COLD in Colorado at the early/late hours I'd have to ride (I typically work 12-hour days.) With pointers from earlier posts, I think I have my clothes dialed in.  Just need face coverage & I should be okay.

3-- the DISTANCE is 26 miles RT.  Not sure I can do all that just yet, need to work up my fitness for it. Can't ride halfway to work & decide I'm too tired to make it the rest of the way.  I'm considering for  the early 5 AM ride to take the Bus part way.  But then bike the full distance home at night.  Bus fare cuts into $ savings, but may be a way to get me started.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: HappyMargo on January 18, 2015, 10:26:28 AM
So as I'm pondering joining up, a few questions:

1-- Do only the miles commuting to work count?  Or do the miles on my bike for errands (grocery store, library, etc) add up too?  Also, do we count up weekend fun/ fitness miles?

2-- Is there a minimum # of miles needed to join?  I'm just getting started with biking (I'm more of a runner!) & it may look lame or pull down some stats if I toss in my low, beginner's miles!

3-- Where/ how do we enter our miles?  Once we fill out the form, do we get a separate place for logging miles? Or do we input them right onto that main page?   Also, do we wait & tally up at the end of the month or log miles onto a form as we go?

Sorry for the silly questions!  As I said, I'm trying to work up the nerve to do this & you seem like a pretty supportive group!

Thanks!!

Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 18, 2015, 10:31:50 AM
So as I'm pondering joining up, a few questions:

1-- Do only the miles commuting to work count?  Or do the miles on my bike for errands (grocery store, library, etc) add up too?  Also, do we count up weekend fun/ fitness miles?

2-- Is there a minimum # of miles needed to join?  I'm just getting started with biking (I'm more of a runner!) & it may look lame or pull down some stats if I toss in my low, beginner's miles!

3-- Where/ how do we enter our miles?  Once we fill out the form, do we get a separate place for logging miles? Or do we input them right onto that main page?   Also, do we wait & tally up at the end of the month or log miles onto a form as we go?

Sorry for the silly questions!  As I said, I'm trying to work up the nerve to do this & you seem like a pretty supportive group!

Thanks!!
I'll answer more in depth from a computer, but look at spreadsheet. You don't need to fill out the firm but take a look at people's sheets and see what they are doing. I track all my miles, but on my sheet I differentiate between fun rides and rides replacing car miles.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: HappyMargo on January 18, 2015, 11:27:56 AM

I'll answer more in depth from a computer, but look at spreadsheet. You don't need to fill out the firm but take a look at people's sheets and see what they are doing. I track all my miles, but on my sheet I differentiate between fun rides and rides replacing car miles.

Oh my gosh... now I'm embarrassed.  I only looked at the main (cumulative) page.  I should've poked around a bit more, would've seen the individual sheets.  Doh!! 

Thanks.  :blush:
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 18, 2015, 11:31:58 AM
1-- Do only the miles commuting to work count?  Or do the miles on my bike for errands (grocery store, library, etc) add up too?  Also, do we count up weekend fun/ fitness miles?
Any and all miles on the bike count. You have the option of separating those out on your sheet if you like (options in form). Since one of the aspects of biking is saving money by not driving, I know that some people add in their walking miles when they go to the store. It's whatever you feel comfortable adding.

2-- Is there a minimum # of miles needed to join?  I'm just getting started with biking (I'm more of a runner!) & it may look lame or pull down some stats if I toss in my low, beginner's miles!
No. Feel free to join in. For me, until I really started making this a habit, I would always try to hit the average for everybody, but all of the stats here are just for fun, and you should feel like it's only from a motivational place (and a place to gloat when you set new personal records).
3-- Where/ how do we enter our miles?  Once we fill out the form, do we get a separate place for logging miles? Or do we input them right onto that main page?   Also, do we wait & tally up at the end of the month or log miles onto a form as we go?

I think you got this part figured out.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: HappyMargo on January 18, 2015, 11:40:05 AM

I think you got this part figured out.

Haha!  Think I'm getting there!  Thanks for your help & patience.
Filled out the sign-up form, getting the next load of laundry going... then heading out into the sunny headwinds outdoors to earn a few biking miles now!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Thegoblinchief on January 18, 2015, 12:38:49 PM
So those of you that ride in the snow regions what do you ride or what is preferred? I currently have a road bike (Schwinn Prelude/cheap) and that works great on the nicely paved trails. It needs tubes and tires upgrades do handle these other routes they call roads here. I am looking at thorn proofs and duraskin gator tires. Blown 4 tubes so far and getting frustrated trying to ride the road bike on the actual roads. I do have a cheap Schwinn mountain bike but it needs some adjustments, possible it's too small for me because it feels odd when I'm riding it. It was a craigslist cheapo purchase. Lot of snow and ice here in Iowa with narrow roads.

Gatorskins are great and pretty reasonably priced online. Not so much at the LBS if you prefer to shop locally. Gatorskins would not work (for me) in winter because of my climate and the road conditions I ride in.

I have an aluminum hybrid (Trek FX 7500) that I picked up last year used (was 10 years old at the time). I personally like aluminum because there's less worry about frame corrosion. Some people say aluminum frames are stiffer/more jarring but I find mine more comfortable than the steel bike it replaced, so YMMV.

Some don't bother with fenders because they're worried about snow plugging up, but for me fenders are a must, especially in winter. Last winter I didn't have fenders yet and constantly had a huge salt/road crap stripe up my back any time the roads were wet. Just nasty, even with waterproof gear.

But I'm all about making the bike you have work before getting a whole new bike. I rode my suboptimal bike for six months before getting a new one, because then I knew a lot more about what I wanted in a bike, and learned that the one I'd had was actually the wrong size and was contributing to some pain no matter how I adjusted it.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 18, 2015, 05:02:50 PM

I think you got this part figured out.

Haha!  Think I'm getting there!  Thanks for your help & patience.
Filled out the sign-up form, getting the next load of laundry going... then heading out into the sunny headwinds outdoors to earn a few biking miles now!

Okay, for some reason your sheet didn't get added, even though you properly filled out the form. This is an intermittent issue, but I got you added! Now log those 15 miles!!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: HappyMargo on January 18, 2015, 05:11:39 PM
Thanks, jordanread.  I think I got my miles on there.  Man, these gauntlets your throwing down have to keep you busy!

Cross-posted from "Strength & Fitness" challenge:

Almost cut my Run short today... Glad I set some resolutions on here & have this group to report back to!  Was enough incentive to kick my butt into finishing.

It was a gorgeous, but windy day out.  DH & I headed out on our bikes together (biking is pretty new for us.)  Can't believe we rode 15 miles!!! 

We stopped at the 11 mile mark to share a pint of local micro-brew beer out on the sunny patio. Sweet! Cheating, I know, but still am astounded I rode 15 miles in that crazy wind!

My little Black Lab recognizes "workout clothes" & was losing her mind when we got home.  So I took off my bike helmut & put on a running cap & headed right back outside. 
WTH?!?!  My legs wouldn't work right.  My gait was all wonky.  I was trying to run, but I'm pretty sure it looked more like a *Monty Python silly-walk* 

Don't know how triathletes do "brick" workouts.  Oh well, managed to run 2.25 miles. 
Now I'm starving!!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 18, 2015, 05:40:17 PM
Thanks, jordanread.  I think I got my miles on there.  Man, these gauntlets your throwing down have to keep you busy!

Yup, you did it right. And these gauntlets take a little bit of time, but when I'm running them, I always make the success of the gauntlet itself a goal, as well as what the gauntlet is. It keeps me on track, keeps me from spending extra spare time doing worthless stuff, and (from the feedback I've received) are highly valued by the participants. It's a win-win-win all around. I almost feel sorry for the forums when I catch FIRE, and am at home base, with a bit more time on my hands (granted, that will only be ~ half the year). I've got 4.5 more years until I really need to worry about that.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: b4u2 on January 19, 2015, 06:09:55 AM
I thought I saw a picture of a rear fender that mounted to the seat post. It looked higher up so snow would not really pack to it while riding. If anyone has pick or link to cheap one I could buy I would appreciate it.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 19, 2015, 06:43:37 AM
I thought I saw a picture of a rear fender that mounted to the seat post. It looked higher up so snow would not really pack to it while riding. If anyone has pick or link to cheap one I could buy I would appreciate it.
One of the people I know use something like this: http://www.amazon.com/SunLite-29066-Seat-Post-Clamper/dp/B000AO7FTK (http://www.amazon.com/SunLite-29066-Seat-Post-Clamper/dp/B000AO7FTK)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: rocketpj on January 19, 2015, 08:05:23 PM
I thought I saw a picture of a rear fender that mounted to the seat post. It looked higher up so snow would not really pack to it while riding. If anyone has pick or link to cheap one I could buy I would appreciate it.

http://www.mec.ca/product/5020-479/portland-design-works-sodapop-fenders/?f=10+50153

Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 20, 2015, 05:26:38 AM
Ah. Finally. After 4 days of not riding, I am packing my pannier, and getting ready to head out on this beautiful, dark, brisk morning. I may add a detour (depending on timing) to go grab an InStep bike trailer. That will be the start of some other shifts, like the grocery shopping! Have a great ride out there everyone.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 20, 2015, 05:46:16 AM
Ah. Finally. After 4 days of not riding, I am packing my pannier, and getting ready to head out on this beautiful, dark, brisk morning. I may add a detour (depending on timing) to go grab an InStep bike trailer. That will be the start of some other shifts, like the grocery shopping! Have a great ride out there everyone.
Whoo bike trailer!
I got one several months ago so I could do go do grocery shopping at a Korean grocery that's about 13 miles away. I've only used it three times (since I can usually manage with panniers when going to American groceries, but I stock up on meat when I go to the Korean one), but man is it a great workout. I always walk away from those rides
Trailers are great. Just a couple things I've noticed
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: ohyonghao on January 20, 2015, 02:31:23 PM
Ah. Finally. After 4 days of not riding, I am packing my pannier, and getting ready to head out on this beautiful, dark, brisk morning. I may add a detour (depending on timing) to go grab an InStep bike trailer. That will be the start of some other shifts, like the grocery shopping! Have a great ride out there everyone.
Whoo bike trailer!
I got one several months ago so I could do go do grocery shopping at a Korean grocery that's about 13 miles away. I've only used it three times (since I can usually manage with panniers when going to American groceries, but I stock up on meat when I go to the Korean one), but man is it a great workout. I always walk away from those rides
  • Feeling like a badasss (I've dragged 100% and 71% of my body weight on the way back on different occasions)
  • Having enjoyed a great ride (I go on Sunday mornings, pretty peaceful except for a 1-2 mile segment with busy traffic)
  • A ton of meat that will usually last me about 3-4 weeks
Trailers are great. Just a couple things I've noticed
  • Try to load as much of the weight as possible in the kids seats themselves (the trailer will probably be rated for about 100 lbs across two children - but that rating only applies if they sit in the intended location)
  • If the trailer doesn't have a third wheel by the attachment to your bike, DO NOT put any substantial amount of weight in the front of the trailer where the kids' feet would go. I did this, and got two flats before I realized it was putting excess weight on the rear axle of my bike.

Interesting information about the flat on the bike.  I don't use the hitch they gave me (hooks on the skewer), and I have reinforced my kids trailer with some wood + cardboard on the kids seat that puts all the weight onto the aluminum frame instead of fabric.  I've carried a bunch of bricks in it before, not sure how much they weigh, but have never ran a flat.  I'll watch out for that though.

Coincidentally last night I ordered a pizza (50% off because the Seahawks won) and rode my bike (workhorse) + trailer to pick it up 2.75mi away.  It was great fun, a good workout, probably burnt a slice of pizza in calories just getting the damn thing, but still got up to 24mph down a short hill.  The adjustment I made to the seat fixed the issues I've had before with this bike.  For the two of us the pizza will last about 3 meals, making it roughly $1.50/person/meal.  A couple weeks ago I was having a friend help with truing a rim at his place and ordered a pizza as payment and had it delivered, will never do again.  Pizza cost $10 + $3.50 delivery fee + tax + tip, ended up spending $20, how the hell is that affordable?  Feel a lot better with my $10 pizza being picked up in my bike trailer.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Ottawa on January 20, 2015, 05:13:01 PM
Just had to leave this here!  Holy Shit!

http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20141110-watch-207mph-on-a-bicycle (http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20141110-watch-207mph-on-a-bicycle)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 20, 2015, 05:20:11 PM
probably burnt a slice of pizza in calories just getting the damn thing
Nice one =P
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 20, 2015, 05:23:32 PM
Just had to leave this here!  Holy Shit!

http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20141110-watch-207mph-on-a-bicycle (http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20141110-watch-207mph-on-a-bicycle)
Why. Just...why?
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 20, 2015, 05:55:15 PM
Just had to leave this here!  Holy Shit!

http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20141110-watch-207mph-on-a-bicycle (http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20141110-watch-207mph-on-a-bicycle)
Why. Just...why?
Um... Because it's awesome!!!

Also, I broke 200 miles today! Yay me.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Ottawa on January 20, 2015, 05:58:15 PM
Why. Just...why?

That is a great question!  I have no idea.  It just seemed so...fast?  At least; compared to slogging through quicksand-like snow at -20C under which was random sketchy-ice-rutty-shit that had me gasping for breath in an attempt to maintain forward momentum while simultaneously making micro and macro adjustments in a surprisingly successful attempt at remaining vertical on my commute?  Oh, and also I noticed it when I saw this old article...http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20140404-yes-you-can-retire-at-40 (http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20140404-yes-you-can-retire-at-40)

:-)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 20, 2015, 06:01:56 PM
Why. Just...why?

That is a great question!  I have no idea.  It just seemed so...fast?  At least; compared to slogging through quicksand-like snow at -20C under which was random sketchy-ice-rutty-shit that had me gasping for breath in an attempt to maintain forward momentum while simultaneously making micro and macro adjustments in a surprisingly successful attempt at remaining vertical on my commute?  Oh, and also I noticed it when I saw this old article...http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20140404-yes-you-can-retire-at-40 (http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20140404-yes-you-can-retire-at-40)

:-)
Haha I meant why would that guy do this. You lose control at that speed and you're just done.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 20, 2015, 06:04:07 PM
Why. Just...why?

That is a great question!  I have no idea.  It just seemed so...fast?  At least; compared to slogging through quicksand-like snow at -20C under which was random sketchy-ice-rutty-shit that had me gasping for breath in an attempt to maintain forward momentum while simultaneously making micro and macro adjustments in a surprisingly successful attempt at remaining vertical on my commute?  Oh, and also I noticed it when I saw this old article...http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20140404-yes-you-can-retire-at-40 (http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20140404-yes-you-can-retire-at-40)

:-)
Haha I meant why would that guy do this. You lose control at that speed and you're just done.

But can you imagine the adrenaline rush afterwards? Oh man!! And to think, for all this time, I thought, hydrogen peroxide was for putting in enemies shampoo.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 20, 2015, 08:42:47 PM
But can you imagine the adrenaline rush afterwards? Oh man!! And to think, for all this time, I thought, hydrogen peroxide was for putting in enemies shampoo.
Haha I guess. But I get plenty from cycling under my own power =P
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Russ on January 20, 2015, 09:30:20 PM
Why. Just...why?

That is a great question!  I have no idea.  It just seemed so...fast?  At least; compared to slogging through quicksand-like snow at -20C under which was random sketchy-ice-rutty-shit that had me gasping for breath in an attempt to maintain forward momentum while simultaneously making micro and macro adjustments in a surprisingly successful attempt at remaining vertical on my commute?  Oh, and also I noticed it when I saw this old article...http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20140404-yes-you-can-retire-at-40 (http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20140404-yes-you-can-retire-at-40)

:-)
Haha I meant why would that guy do this. You lose control at that speed and you're just done.

Hardly. MotoGP dudes crash at those sorts of speeds all the time and just slide away. That's the benefit of not being trapped in a 4000 lb. hunk of metal
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 21, 2015, 04:45:07 AM
[...]
slogging through quicksand-like snow at -20C under which was random sketchy-ice-rutty-shit that had me gasping for breath in an attempt to maintain forward momentum while simultaneously making micro and macro adjustments in a surprisingly successful attempt at remaining vertical on my commute? 
:-)

I loved that line. It surprises me sometimes too, at how successful I am at not falling.

Whoo bike trailer!
I got one several months ago so I could do go do grocery shopping at a Korean grocery that's about 13 miles away. I've only used it three times (since I can usually manage with panniers when going to American groceries, but I stock up on meat when I go to the Korean one), but man is it a great workout. I always walk away from those rides
  • Feeling like a badasss (I've dragged 100% and 71% of my body weight on the way back on different occasions)
  • Having enjoyed a great ride (I go on Sunday mornings, pretty peaceful except for a 1-2 mile segment with busy traffic)
  • A ton of meat that will usually last me about 3-4 weeks
Trailers are great. Just a couple things I've noticed
  • Try to load as much of the weight as possible in the kids seats themselves (the trailer will probably be rated for about 100 lbs across two children - but that rating only applies if they sit in the intended location)
  • If the trailer doesn't have a third wheel by the attachment to your bike, DO NOT put any substantial amount of weight in the front of the trailer where the kids' feet would go. I did this, and got two flats before I realized it was putting excess weight on the rear axle of my bike.

I haven't gotten it yet, but I will later today. If it's rated for only 100lbs, how did you wind up pulling your body weight...unless you are very small? I will most likely do some modifications on it, but I'll have to look at it first. I'm going to store it at my office until tomorrow, and then use it for my first ever grocery trip by bike on the way home.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 21, 2015, 06:02:21 AM
[...]
slogging through quicksand-like snow at -20C under which was random sketchy-ice-rutty-shit that had me gasping for breath in an attempt to maintain forward momentum while simultaneously making micro and macro adjustments in a surprisingly successful attempt at remaining vertical on my commute? 
:-)

I loved that line. It surprises me sometimes too, at how successful I am at not falling.

Whoo bike trailer!
I got one several months ago so I could do go do grocery shopping at a Korean grocery that's about 13 miles away. I've only used it three times (since I can usually manage with panniers when going to American groceries, but I stock up on meat when I go to the Korean one), but man is it a great workout. I always walk away from those rides
  • Feeling like a badasss (I've dragged 100% and 71% of my body weight on the way back on different occasions)
  • Having enjoyed a great ride (I go on Sunday mornings, pretty peaceful except for a 1-2 mile segment with busy traffic)
  • A ton of meat that will usually last me about 3-4 weeks
Trailers are great. Just a couple things I've noticed
  • Try to load as much of the weight as possible in the kids seats themselves (the trailer will probably be rated for about 100 lbs across two children - but that rating only applies if they sit in the intended location)
  • If the trailer doesn't have a third wheel by the attachment to your bike, DO NOT put any substantial amount of weight in the front of the trailer where the kids' feet would go. I did this, and got two flats before I realized it was putting excess weight on the rear axle of my bike.

I haven't gotten it yet, but I will later today. If it's rated for only 100lbs, how did you wind up pulling your body weight...unless you are very small? I will most likely do some modifications on it, but I'll have to look at it first. I'm going to store it at my office until tomorrow, and then use it for my first ever grocery trip by bike on the way home.
I only weighed 123 at the time (and I'm 5'11" - hence my goal on the strength & fitness thread to gain 15 pounds this year). And the trailer weighs 27 lbs or so.

You will also have to figure out how to get more fragile groceries, like some fruits, home without too much damage (unless you don't care).
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: mskyle on January 21, 2015, 07:31:13 AM
Tuesdays are generally my longest biking day because I go to chorus rehearsal after work, so I end up biking across town (well, technically across one town and three cities, but it's Boston, so they're small) at 10PM. I go down fairly busy streets and it's dark and sometimes it's a bit stressful.

Well, last night some of us went out for a beer after rehearsal, and damned if the traffic at 11PM isn't about a million times quieter than at 10PM! Or maybe that beer really, really mellowed me out.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 21, 2015, 09:25:24 AM
Tuesdays are generally my longest biking day because I go to chorus rehearsal after work, so I end up biking across town (well, technically across one town and three cities, but it's Boston, so they're small) at 10PM. I go down fairly busy streets and it's dark and sometimes it's a bit stressful.

Well, last night some of us went out for a beer after rehearsal, and damned if the traffic at 11PM isn't about a million times quieter than at 10PM! Or maybe that beer really, really mellowed me out.
While Massachusetts doesn't seem to do this, some (apparently most?) states define a bicycle as a vehicle (not a motor vehicle) and just subject bicyclists to all rules pertaining to vehicles. They then add in some (hopefully) sensible exceptions for bicycles, such as riding in the bike lane.
I bring this up not targeted at you in particular mskyle, since MA doesn't seem to do this, but because that also means that it in some states it is legally technically possible to get a DUI while riding a bicycle. http://dui.drivinglaws.org/resources/dui-arrest-on-bicycle.htm (http://dui.drivinglaws.org/resources/dui-arrest-on-bicycle.htm)

Now obviously, your chances of a police officer actually caring about this are essentially zero unless you hit someone. But just something to be wary of.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 21, 2015, 09:34:54 AM
Super fun ride in this morning. The snow doesn't appear to be stopping, so my first time with a trailer should be pretty awesome with snow. And the first grocery trip in the snow tomorrow. Regular trips are going to seem super easy.

I only weighed 123 at the time (and I'm 5'11" - hence my goal on the strength & fitness thread to gain 15 pounds this year). And the trailer weighs 27 lbs or so.

You will also have to figure out how to get more fragile groceries, like some fruits, home without too much damage (unless you don't care).

I had to look up pictures of that height and weight...the only frame of reference I had was Jack Skellington :). And I'll get the fragile stuff figured out, although I'm not sure now. I might just keep the eggs and what not in the panniers, and everything else on the trailer. It's going to be a learning experience for sure, but those are the best experiences!

Tuesdays are generally my longest biking day because I go to chorus rehearsal after work, so I end up biking across town (well, technically across one town and three cities, but it's Boston, so they're small) at 10PM. I go down fairly busy streets and it's dark and sometimes it's a bit stressful.

Well, last night some of us went out for a beer after rehearsal, and damned if the traffic at 11PM isn't about a million times quieter than at 10PM! Or maybe that beer really, really mellowed me out.
While Massachusetts doesn't seem to do this, some (apparently most?) states define a bicycle as a vehicle (not a motor vehicle) and just subject bicyclists to all rules pertaining to vehicles. They then add in some (hopefully) sensible exceptions for bicycles, such as riding in the bike lane.
I bring this up not targeted at you in particular mskyle, since MA doesn't seem to do this, but because that also means that it in some states it is legally technically possible to get a DUI while riding a bicycle. http://dui.drivinglaws.org/resources/dui-arrest-on-bicycle.htm (http://dui.drivinglaws.org/resources/dui-arrest-on-bicycle.htm)

Now obviously, your chances of a police officer actually caring about this are essentially zero unless you hit someone. But just something to be wary of.


It always pays to be careful, though. But we have bike brewery tours around here, even though I think you can get a DWI/DUI on a bike.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 21, 2015, 09:44:46 AM
I had to look up pictures of that height and weight...the only frame of reference I had was Jack Skellington :).
Haha not quite that bad....but yea I'm unhealthily skinny. It's a work in progress

And I'll get the fragile stuff figured out, although I'm not sure now. I might just keep the eggs and what not in the panniers, and everything else on the trailer. It's going to be a learning experience for sure, but those are the best experiences!
Yea that's what I end up doing - panniers for the more fragile stuff. Another strategy that might work is purposely trapping a lot of air in your grocery bags when you tie the ends together. But that will take up quite a bit of volume, something I don't have because I have a road bike (which surprisingly had eyelets for a rear rack, but doesn't have a geometry optimized for panniers) and I had to get smaller panniers so I didn't get heel strikes.

It always pays to be careful, though. But we have bike brewery tours around here, even though I think you can get a DWI/DUI on a bike.
Oh I know. I don't plan on riding my bike while intoxicated. But I put that last statement in there because last time I brought a similar thing up some people were up in flames and said oh well it's an unenforced law, meaning its not actually a law and can be ignored.

Bike brewery tours...are advocated by the breweries themselves? Or it's just a bunch of people who decide on their own to do a brewery tour on a bike?
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 21, 2015, 11:23:42 AM

It always pays to be careful, though. But we have bike brewery tours around here, even though I think you can get a DWI/DUI on a bike.
Oh I know. I don't plan on riding my bike while intoxicated. But I put that last statement in there because last time I brought a similar thing up some people were up in flames and said oh well it's an unenforced law, meaning its not actually a law and can be ignored.

Bike brewery tours...are advocated by the breweries themselves? Or it's just a bunch of people who decide on their own to do a brewery tour on a bike?

I highly suggest riding your bike drunk at least once, just do it on grass in a park. :-) The brewery tours are sponsored by a charity who partners with the breweries and restaurants. During the summer, every Tuesday or Thursday, and then they do a huge drunken scavenger hunt at some point during the summer. I haven't gone to that one, but I heard the cops close down lanes in the street. During my favorite event of the year (Starlight Spectacular (http://www.trailsandopenspaces.org/newsevents/starlight-spectacular/) - a 12 - 19 mile ride in the middle of the night), they have beer stands set up at the start, too.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 21, 2015, 11:59:44 AM
I highly suggest riding your bike drunk at least once, just do it on grass in a park. :-) The brewery tours are sponsored by a charity who partners with the breweries and restaurants. During the summer, every Tuesday or Thursday, and then they do a huge drunken scavenger hunt at some point during the summer. I haven't gone to that one, but I heard the cops close down lanes in the street. During my favorite event of the year (Starlight Spectacular (http://www.trailsandopenspaces.org/newsevents/starlight-spectacular/) - a 12 - 19 mile ride in the middle of the night), they have beer stands set up at the start, too.
Haha that sounds pretty awesome
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: UnleashHell on January 21, 2015, 01:46:39 PM
Riding drunk – just check out beer bike on a search !! that’s the way to do it!

Anyway – I’m just chiming in to say I knocked 5 minutes off my best time to work this morning!! Yes I’m still a fat bastard but I’m a quicker fat bastard. 41 minutes door to door through traffic that I had to wait for the lights at a couple of times. Its still slow but I’m happy to see improvement. Its just under 8 miles and I want that time down to 30 minutes. Still a way to go!!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: ohyonghao on January 21, 2015, 01:55:19 PM
Part of the riding drunk thing is watching how much you drink.  Most of my group rides have a bar stop towards the end.  Here I believe the limit is 0.08%, but being a light weight one beer can get me a little wobbly on the bike until I get going.  I have seen a drunk guy riding his bicycle North in the Southbound lane of traffic completely unaware of why cars would be flying at him.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 21, 2015, 01:57:30 PM
Riding drunk – just check out beer bike on a search !! that’s the way to do it!

Anyway – I’m just chiming in to say I knocked 5 minutes off my best time to work this morning!! Yes I’m still a fat bastard but I’m a quicker fat bastard. 41 minutes door to door through traffic that I had to wait for the lights at a couple of times. Its still slow but I’m happy to see improvement. Its just under 8 miles and I want that time down to 30 minutes. Still a way to go!!

Oh yeah, those are fun. I'd almost rather have one for friends, though. Or a side business. On principle I wouldn't server lite beer.

Congrats on the new record! Don't sell yourself short, though. I still think I suck at riding...slow cadence, overweight, etc. But every group ride I've been on, I've been in the top 20%, and it always surprises me.

I highly suggest riding your bike drunk at least once, just do it on grass in a park. :-) The brewery tours are sponsored by a charity who partners with the breweries and restaurants. During the summer, every Tuesday or Thursday, and then they do a huge drunken scavenger hunt at some point during the summer. I haven't gone to that one, but I heard the cops close down lanes in the street. During my favorite event of the year (Starlight Spectacular (http://www.trailsandopenspaces.org/newsevents/starlight-spectacular/) - a 12 - 19 mile ride in the middle of the night), they have beer stands set up at the start, too.
Haha that sounds pretty awesome

You have no idea. This past year had 1500 people and they closed down some huge streets for us. As we went out on one of the main streets (like 3-4 lanes each way), just surrounded by bikers without a car on the road, I couldn't help but shouting "NOW'S OUR CHANCE!! WE CAN TAKE THE CITY!!!"

Here is just a quick idea as to what it was like...granted a video can't really compare to being there. Everyone decks out their bikes in lights and glow sticks.

2014 Starlight Spectacular (http://youtu.be/Fi-vGNqocG4)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Thegoblinchief on January 21, 2015, 02:11:36 PM
IMO the InStep trailers are garbage that shouldn't have ever been manufactured, but I suppose it comes down to how often you'll use it and the price. Basically they have really shitty hubs and wheels.

Definite +1 to fragile items on the panniers OR having a cargo net. It's less the bouncing into other objects and more the bouncing up and down because objects are loosely packed that causes the damage. Eggs go on top AND are snugly packed enough to not move around. I haven't broken an egg in months, but until you get the hang of it, even if you use no bags for the rest, for sure wrap the egg carton in a plastic bag. Broken eggs be no fun to clean out of a trailer or pannier.

Bananas also need to be on top. They are very fragile and sensitive to weight being on top of them.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: UnleashHell on January 21, 2015, 02:25:09 PM
Oh yeah, those are fun. I'd almost rather have one for friends, though. Or a side business. On principle I wouldn't server lite beer.

Congrats on the new record! Don't sell yourself short, though. I still think I suck at riding...slow cadence, overweight, etc. But every group ride I've been on, I've been in the top 20%, and it always surprises me.


Oh hell yes!  No lite beer - or mass commercial stuff.....  micro brew only!!

cadence - I got some but I just can't always find it.


Its coming back though – I pedaled most of the way – very little freewheeling today and just little things like yesterdays average gear was easy today. Yesterdays hard was average.

Just got to keep on going and riding. I was chatting at the bike shop a few days ago – they have a Sunday morning ride and I’m so far short of that…. But then am I – they look to do 15mph average – I was at over 11mph while carrying all my work stuff in panniers… not ready for a 2 hour ride yet though!!



Biking everywhere with all the lights sounds awesome
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 21, 2015, 02:38:44 PM
IMO the InStep trailers are garbage that shouldn't have ever been manufactured, but I suppose it comes down to how often you'll use it and the price. Basically they have really shitty hubs and wheels.
*shrug* It was $40 used from Craigslist and I've only used it three times so far in the past couple months. We'll see how long it lasts.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 21, 2015, 02:40:41 PM
IMO the InStep trailers are garbage that shouldn't have ever been manufactured, but I suppose it comes down to how often you'll use it and the price. Basically they have really shitty hubs and wheels.

Definite +1 to fragile items on the panniers OR having a cargo net. It's less the bouncing into other objects and more the bouncing up and down because objects are loosely packed that causes the damage. Eggs go on top AND are snugly packed enough to not move around. I haven't broken an egg in months, but until you get the hang of it, even if you use no bags for the rest, for sure wrap the egg carton in a plastic bag. Broken eggs be no fun to clean out of a trailer or pannier.

Bananas also need to be on top. They are very fragile and sensitive to weight being on top of them.

Yeah, I don't know that I am going to use it as designed. I'm more interested in just the frame. This is just a first one, to see how I like it, similar to my recommendations for the beginner bikers. I will most likely end up upgrading to a utility trailer that mounts to the post or my rack as opposed to the 'reach around' (*childish snicker*) method of these trailers.

Oh, and if all goes according to plan, I'll be using it weekly for my grocery run. I'll find out the issues pretty quick. :)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: SweetTPi on January 21, 2015, 06:17:48 PM
I had my first 'drivers are really idiots' moment today. 

They're starting to put more bike lanes in throughout town, and one new connection is on a road I take for work.  They repaved the road in December, but just painted the lines for the bike path.  It's a two-way path on one side of the street, instead of each side having a one-way lane.

So today I decided to take my first trip down this new path, instead of hanging out in traffic (not that there is generally much).  All is going well until I see two cars heading my way.  They were being very careful to say within the newly-painted lane.  MY lane.  The BIKE lane.  The one with the solid outer line and a dashed inner line.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 21, 2015, 07:19:23 PM
I had my first 'drivers are really idiots' moment today. 

They're starting to put more bike lanes in throughout town, and one new connection is on a road I take for work.  They repaved the road in December, but just painted the lines for the bike path.  It's a two-way path on one side of the street, instead of each side having a one-way lane.

So today I decided to take my first trip down this new path, instead of hanging out in traffic (not that there is generally much).  All is going well until I see two cars heading my way.  They were being very careful to say within the newly-painted lane.  MY lane.  The BIKE lane.  The one with the solid outer line and a dashed inner line.
It's situations like this where I'm glad I bought an air horn http://www.amazon.com/Delta-Airzound-Bike-Horn-colors/dp/B000ACAMJC (http://www.amazon.com/Delta-Airzound-Bike-Horn-colors/dp/B000ACAMJC). It's as loud as a car horn (though it doesn't sound the same). You can recharge it by pumping it with a standard Schraeder bike pump.
If you're gonna buy it, go to the used section and get the one from Amazon Warehouse Deals - that just means there's cosmetic damage to the packaging, the product still works.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: mtbiker on January 21, 2015, 09:20:30 PM
I hit a minor milestone on my way home tonight.  I broke 145 miles for the month, which is the most miles in a month I've ridden in a year.  I really hope to break 250 miles this month which be the most since Sept 2013. 

And speaking of brewery tours...  Part of the reason my miles were down last year is I broke my tailbone riding home way to drunk from 2 brewery tours in Feb of last year.  It was my last brewery tour ride before I moved from Dallas back home to Colorado, and the pain has lingered all year...     But, I sure do miss those brewery rides.  Looking forward to hitting some around here soon! 

 

Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: UnleashHell on January 22, 2015, 04:11:45 AM
I was hit in the back by something last night. just as a car went by with its passenger window open - could have been kicked up from the road but I think it was someone in the passenger seat of the car. Didn't see what it was - felt it but it didn't leave a mark. Didn't get the exact make and model of the car but did see the first three of the licence and the road they turned into. 
Annoying - and odd because idiots who throw stuff generally are shouting as well - nothing from this one...

I could make an effort to track them down but I don't KNOW that it was deliberate - or even them..just suspect it was. and if I found them? then what? (actually I'd sneak back and cover the windscreen with Lard - that's a real pain to get off :D )


oh well - carry on...
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 22, 2015, 04:42:10 AM
I hit a minor milestone on my way home tonight.  I broke 145 miles for the month, which is the most miles in a month I've ridden in a year.  I really hope to break 250 miles this month which be the most since Sept 2013. 

Congrats on the record!

Alas, I did not get my trailer yesterday. I rode up to the person's place to check it out (btw mtbiker...I do not envy your part of that commute), confirming over the phone that is what ready to go. Well, as I got up there, I see a school bus stranded in the subdivision. It couldn't get out, so there were cops all over the place. As I made the turn one of the cops mentioned that it was super slippery. He pointed at a spot, where I naturally looked, and then slipped. I probably would have been fine, but it's all good. Falling on ice is my favorite kind of falling. So I laughed and got myself up. The cop said I was taking my life into my own hands, which I suppose is true. I looked at him, and said "Yeah, but you just saw what happens when I get into an accident. I slip around and giggle. When something like that happens to you, suddenly there is 5,000lbs of metal careening down the street, putting everyone and everything else in danger, with all kinds of potential shrapnel that can kill you too."

He stopped as he was getting back in his vehicle, looked at me, and said "Hmmm. Fair enough." I thought that was a fun conversation. Anyway, a few blocks later I get to the house, the trailer looks good, but they don't have the coupler. They said they's knock some off the price and I just looked at them for a minute...until they realized that I had my freaking bike, and the fact that I could order the part did nothing to actually help me at this particular moment of time. I might look around online today, and potentially order one, but if I have to go through that, I'm not paying a dime over $20.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Mrs. PoP on January 22, 2015, 04:43:11 AM
UnleashHell - what county are you in?  Collier just passed an anti-harassment law that criminalizes harassing bicyclists and pedestrians.  I'm not exactly sure how enforcement will work.  But hopefully the rest of the state will follow suit soon. 
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: UnleashHell on January 22, 2015, 05:12:43 AM
UnleashHell - what county are you in?  Collier just passed an anti-harassment law that criminalizes harassing bicyclists and pedestrians.  I'm not exactly sure how enforcement will work.  But hopefully the rest of the state will follow suit soon.

This was in Pasco - but I can't prove anything so law enforcement would be useless. they are useless here anyway. in October my son was knocked over on a crossing (one for bikes and pedestrians) but the driver left the scene - we reported it later but the police didn't want to come out and do anything. we insisted and when they turned up they did nothing because they wasn't anything to follow up on. I still persisted with them filing a repot (the crossing is outside a school!!) but they couldn't give a toss here.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: b4u2 on January 22, 2015, 06:51:59 AM
Well I started working on the bike last night. I had to replace the rear tube. No idea why it was punctured but I put another layer of black electrical tape around the rim just in case. The tire is a 700x25 and I had a 27" tube. Not really sure if that is the right size but it's what I had in stock. I bought four of them from Walmart about a year ago. I may have to order online or buy from the local bike shop if these are not the right size. They are a little pricey at the shop. I aired them up and they didn't bulge or pop. My compressor can only go to about 80-90 psi, which might be fine for winter riding. The gas station a few blocks away (wrong direction of course) can get the tires to 100 psi.

I also thought I would give it a quick look over and possibly fine tune it. I watched a few youtube videos and discovered my front derailer may not be set right. I guess it's supposed to be 2 mm above the teeth with chain on smallest gear. I measured almost 4 mm. The chain rubs against the derailer when I use the top gear. So I may have to lower that derailer and then retune bike. Once I realized the front was off I started watching videos so no idea if the rear is wrong as well.

I also still need to install the interrupter levers. I don't have any handle bar tape and not sure if I can reuse the old stuff?

I am trying to get it ready to do a trial ride to work and back. I need to test my times and clothing on the weekend. I can't gamble a weekday because I have to pick up kid from school.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: mskyle on January 22, 2015, 07:18:45 AM
Had an interesting conversation with the insurance agent for the woman who I got in an accident with last week... she kept asking me, "So she didn't see you?" and I wanted to be like, "Of course she didn't see me! I never assume anyone can see me at all! No one ever sees cyclists!" She didn't see me, and she was driving down the yellow line at the center of the road... that was the problem.

I agree on all that has been said on drunk riding - it's a good time, though illegal and dangerous. I only had the one beer (Tuesday night! I have a 9-5!) and I don't know whether I would have been over the limit but if I had been driving I probably would have had a club soda and spent another 15-20 minutes at the bar before I left to get in my 2,500-pound killing machine (a.k.a. Yaris).
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 22, 2015, 08:20:39 AM
I'm an idiot. I have this awesome magical device that tells me stuff that I want to know. And since it's smart, I don't even need to always ask it. However, on occasion, I do need to look at it. I did that a few days ago, and saw that it was a high of 30 today. For some reason, my brain took that to mean it would be 30°F...before the sun rose. In actuality, it was 4°F. I realized it a few miles in, when I wasn't warming up like I usually do. Oops. That won't happen again soon. Good ride in, though!!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: TrMama on January 22, 2015, 12:11:03 PM
You know you live in the PNW when you have to pull over on your morning bike commute because your eyeballs are too full of water. Not just your glasses, or dripping down your face, but your freaking eyeballs.

Felt like I was swimming without goggles . . .
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Armer Student on January 22, 2015, 12:44:53 PM
Weather forecast foresees heavy snow fall from saturday or sunday on. I just purchased a Schwalbe Marathon Winter with 120 spikes to be able to continue my badassity no matter the weather conditions. :)

Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: joseveri on January 22, 2015, 02:23:54 PM
Those tires are beauties.  I rode over thick black ice yesterday for long stretches on a 13 mile ride with no issue.  They have saved me many times from hitting the deck this winter.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Wolf_Stache on January 22, 2015, 03:44:29 PM
I had to make a detour downtown this morning. Rode up 4th ave in the bike lane (which is on the left side of the street because it is a one way road). Almost hit THREE TIMES.

First time someone swerved into the lane to turn into a parking garage... without looking. I came within inches of slamming into their driver's side door.

Second time, I was in the intersection of Marion and 4th ave... when a moron turned left. Marion is a one way street...going the OTHER DIRECTION, meaning you can only turn RIGHT off 4th onto Marion. last I saw they continued to drive the wrong way against traffic all the way down the hill.

Third time was the same as the first time. yes, it is January... but it was 50 degrees out! Not raining! Its Seattle, of course there are bikers! Look before you cross the freaking bike lane.

I wish I could take the 2nd ave bike path, which has its own lights and is set away from traffic, but it doesn't begin until Yesler, whereas the 4th Ave bike lane goes all the way down to Jackson.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Primm on January 22, 2015, 04:52:21 PM
I had to make a detour downtown this morning. Rode up 4th ave in the bike lane (which is on the left side of the street because it is a one way road). Almost hit THREE TIMES.

First time someone swerved into the lane to turn into a parking garage... without looking. I came within inches of slamming into their driver's side door.

Second time, I was in the intersection of Marion and 4th ave... when a moron turned left. Marion is a one way street...going the OTHER DIRECTION, meaning you can only turn RIGHT off 4th onto Marion. last I saw they continued to drive the wrong way against traffic all the way down the hill.

Third time was the same as the first time. yes, it is January... but it was 50 degrees out! Not raining! Its Seattle, of course there are bikers! Look before you cross the freaking bike lane.

I wish I could take the 2nd ave bike path, which has its own lights and is set away from traffic, but it doesn't begin until Yesler, whereas the 4th Ave bike lane goes all the way down to Jackson.

It's a shame they weren't registered, then that wouldn't have happened. [/sarcasm]

Nice work on the riding in winter thing, people. We may not have snow and ice here, but we have other hazards at this time of year...

The joys of cycling in the tropics. (http://www.couriermail.com.au/questnews/moreton/mangoes-of-mango-hill-create-hazard-for-drivers-and-cyclists-alike/story-fni9r1i7-1227193526162)

Oh, and are any of you in DC? You may be interested in this.

FREE COFFEE! (http://dcist.com/2015/01/bike_terrorists_have_a_friend_in_pl.php)

Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 22, 2015, 04:53:52 PM
They really should have a what to do around bikers section to get a license.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 22, 2015, 05:00:52 PM
They really should have a what to do around bikers section to get a license.
I know right? Even a question or two on the written test to get a driver's license would do wonders. Way too many drivers think bicyclists belong on the sidewalk.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: ohyonghao on January 22, 2015, 09:39:44 PM
They really should have a what to do around bikers section to get a license.
I know right? Even a question or two on the written test to get a driver's license would do wonders. Way too many drivers think bicyclists belong on the sidewalk.

So far for the most part I haven't had much trouble here, but I'm in Hillsboro, just a little west of Portland.  My commute has me taking the lane for about half of it because the streets are too narrow to add a bike lane (2 lanes each way) and the planners didn't think about it when giving permits to businesses that built with doors right on the sidewalk.  I look at it and can't think of any way to squeeze another two bike lanes out without making stupidly narrow sidewalks, or getting rid of a lane of traffic.  The streets are too busy for 1 lane each way with a middle turn, but perhaps that would encourage more people to bike :-D.

In the summer I did have one lady talking on a cell phone driving a company van (owned by a famous hotel chain with a promiscuous daughter), that had me slam on brakes to avoid hitting her.  The silly thing about that was the road she turned onto is notoriously backed up, so I tried to confront her just to inform her that she almost caused an accident if I hadn't hit my brakes, then she threatened to throw stuff at me if I "don't get the fuck away", and that I should "get a fucking life, faggot".  I didn't think quick enough to make a video recording, but I did take a picture of the "How's my driving" and called her work to let them know.  Haven't seen her around again, though it seemed they were more surprised about her talking on a cell phone while driving than the physical threats and insults.  Really, my thought was maybe she didn't know she almost hit me and telling her would let her know to be more careful.  But in the 13 months I've biked I've only had 2 cars wiz by too close, 1 pull out in front of me (that lady), and one idiot pull his truck into the bike lane while two cars back waiting on a red light to make a right turn.

The rest of my experience here is pretty nice bike lanes, or going north into the country cars expect cyclists to be there because 1) those roads don't go anywhere else so very low traffic, 2) they are really awesome to ride on.  Out there I've never had any trouble.

In other news, on Tuesday I received my heart rate monitor.  It's been a lot of fun riding with it.  This evening I went on their "heart rate training" run so I could set my max heart rate and heart rate zones.  First time I have ever felt like puking while exercising.  Might be pushing myself a little hard right now, but I have a 5k in March and running on Wednesday tells me I have a bit of work to do.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 22, 2015, 10:11:15 PM
But in the 13 months I've biked I've only had 2 cars wiz by too close, 1 pull out in front of me (that lady), and one idiot pull his truck into the bike lane while two cars back waiting on a red light to make a right turn.
Here in Atlanta having cars whiz by me too close is a regular experience. It's rare that I don't have a ride longer than about 3 miles where that doesn't occur.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: ohyonghao on January 22, 2015, 10:16:59 PM
But in the 13 months I've biked I've only had 2 cars wiz by too close, 1 pull out in front of me (that lady), and one idiot pull his truck into the bike lane while two cars back waiting on a red light to make a right turn.
Here in Atlanta having cars whiz by me too close is a regular experience. It's rare that I don't have a ride longer than about 3 miles where that doesn't occur.

Well, now that you mention 3 miles, that's how long my commute is :-D
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 22, 2015, 10:39:42 PM
But in the 13 months I've biked I've only had 2 cars wiz by too close, 1 pull out in front of me (that lady), and one idiot pull his truck into the bike lane while two cars back waiting on a red light to make a right turn.
Here in Atlanta having cars whiz by me too close is a regular experience. It's rare that I don't have a ride longer than about 3 miles where that doesn't occur.

Well, now that you mention 3 miles, that's how long my commute is :-D
=P

Even then, I'm surprised you've only been whizzed twice in the past 13 months. I guess they're just more bike friendly over there.
But I mean, the drivers here are assholes in general (I feel like they are more so than where I grew up, suburbs outside DC)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 23, 2015, 04:49:12 AM
But in the 13 months I've biked I've only had 2 cars wiz by too close, 1 pull out in front of me (that lady), and one idiot pull his truck into the bike lane while two cars back waiting on a red light to make a right turn.
Here in Atlanta having cars whiz by me too close is a regular experience. It's rare that I don't have a ride longer than about 3 miles where that doesn't occur.

Well, now that you mention 3 miles, that's how long my commute is :-D

I didn't believe you, just due to the number of miles you get. I was imagining some 40 mile commute...so I looked at your sheet. You do a lot of recreational riding!! It actually is kind of reassuring, since I have been looking at moving, but wasn't sure how I could get my miles if I moved all close to work (which just so happens to be in one of the areas we are looking at).

For my part, I have yet to be whizzed by on the streets here (about 4 years biking on and off). There is one exception. One of the paths I've ridden on eventually turns into a bike lane on a 50mph highway/frontage road. Nothing malicious, but that can freak you out. I'm pretty sure nobody hadn't seen me, just misjudge how much air is displaced at 50mph. The one consistent thing I have are idiots on cell phones who ignore the crosswalks. The one thing that gets me is that these are not regular crosswalks. They aren't at an intersection, they are only there (with clear signage, well painted, and the crosswalk is usually raised like a huge speed bump) stating that a bike path intersects here (and the path goers have the right of way).
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: mskyle on January 23, 2015, 06:22:35 AM
I definitely get passed close enough to scare me sometimes... and then, because my commute is in heavy urban traffic, I usually end up catching up to them at the next light or crosswalk. Sometimes I use it as an opportunity for education and discussion (or very occasionally yelling).

I did a little experiment last night on my way home - counted how many cars I passed (and subtracted the number of cars that passed me) and it came out to 80 cars on my four-mile commute! Crazy!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Thegoblinchief on January 23, 2015, 08:06:37 AM
ohyonghao - there's one neighborhood near me that did do the bike lanes but extra narrow sidewalks (18" wide tops). For such a narrow, congested corridor the bike lanes are a major win.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Kmp2 on January 23, 2015, 01:50:19 PM
@goblinchief, I sucked it up and took my toddler out for a play date and shopping trip today. Only because we have been above freezing for almost a whole week! So I knew the roads and pathways would be clear. The biking on ice was actually the easiest part. Stopping to walk thorough some dodgy slushy sections was the hardest, hard to get her moving with almost no traction from my grippy winter hiking boots... The bike was definitely squirrelly with 40lbs of groceries and 25lbs of toddler, and I would guess I was over my racks weight limit too. The bike was weighted way too far back, and felt like it was going to flip backwards, won't be doing that again, at least not with so many groceries.

@ohyonghoa they have done some interesting studies on road diets, turning two lane roads each way into  a three laner with a shared turning lane, and bike lanes. Turns out traffic is hardly affected, and everybody is safer. It makes sense a two lane road is slowed to a one lane by left turns, and you get a lot weaving around people making accidents more common.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 23, 2015, 01:58:27 PM
@goblinchief, I sucked it up and took my toddler out for a play date and shopping trip today. Only because we have been above freezing for almost a whole week! So I knew the roads and pathways would be clear. The biking on ice was actually the easiest part. Stopping to walk thorough some dodgy slushy sections was the hardest, hard to get her moving with almost no traction from my grippy winter hiking boots... The bike was definitely squirrelly with 40lbs of groceries and 25lbs of toddler, and I would guess I was over my racks weight limit too. The bike was weighted way too far back, and felt like it was going to flip backwards, won't be doing that again, at least not with so many groceries.

@ohyonghoa they have done some interesting studies on road diets, turning two lane roads each way into  a three laner with a shared turning lane, and bike lanes. Turns out traffic is hardly affected, and everybody is safer. It makes sense a two lane road is slowed to a one lane by left turns, and you get a lot weaving around people making accidents more common.

You put a toddler on your rack? I imagine it's probably some safe seat or something, but I envisioned this awesome system of bunjee cords and a smallish child. Made me giggle. Then I saw the weight of said toddler. Apparently I think my nephew is a toddler at something like 50lbs. Apparently my definitions suck.

One day, I do want to grab all of those studies and figure out how to make them work together. Watched something on Mythbusters about roundabouts vs. 4-way stops, and combine that with some other stuff I've read, once the ZA hits, us Mustachians can really make an effective system...or get involved in advocacy...whatever
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Kmp2 on January 23, 2015, 02:08:25 PM
Haha, she was in a baby seat that still allows me to use both sides of my rack for panniers. I can't imagine what people would think if I just strapped to the back rack... They already think the well protected seat is too high up and dangerous... It is not like we go very fast.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 23, 2015, 02:12:39 PM
Haha, she was in a baby seat that still allows me to use both sides of my rack for panniers. I can't imagine what people would think if I just strapped to the back rack... They already think the well protected seat is too high up and dangerous... It is not like we go very fast.

I'm only a crazy uncle, not a parent, but I imagine that you could put them wherever with a roll cage. I've thought about putting my nephew in one of my panniers, just for fun. He was all about it...and they know what's best...right?
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: ohyonghao on January 23, 2015, 02:12:53 PM
@ohyonghoa they have done some interesting studies on road diets, turning two lane roads each way into  a three laner with a shared turning lane, and bike lanes. Turns out traffic is hardly affected, and everybody is safer. It makes sense a two lane road is slowed to a one lane by left turns, and you get a lot weaving around people making accidents more common.
One day, I do want to grab all of those studies and figure out how to make them work together. Watched something on Mythbusters about roundabouts vs. 4-way stops, and combine that with some other stuff I've read, once the ZA hits, us Mustachians can really make an effective system...or get involved in advocacy...whatever

Roundabouts are interesting.  I don't know how they are usually done, but here they have the bikes get on the sidewalk on the outer loop, which then creates silly crossings at each exit.  They obviously didn't take into consideration how bikes would want to cross, which is not doing a 90* left turn getting off the sidewalk.  On group rides about half of us were using sidewalks, the other half just riding the roundabout.  The only worry I have with the roundabouts is that it has a leading up to path that is fairly narrow with a curb on the side so if you get pinched by a car you have no place to go.

What was the conclusion from Mythbusters on the roundabouts?  I'll probably google it some day, but was curious.

Idaho has a red as yield law for bicycles.  Essentially it makes Red lights and Stop signs equivalent to yield signs, so you only legally have to slow down and look, but do not have to stop.  Portland almost passed it, perhaps they will try again later, but they do have some intersections with signage that says bikes do not have to stop.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 23, 2015, 02:23:59 PM
@ohyonghoa they have done some interesting studies on road diets, turning two lane roads each way into  a three laner with a shared turning lane, and bike lanes. Turns out traffic is hardly affected, and everybody is safer. It makes sense a two lane road is slowed to a one lane by left turns, and you get a lot weaving around people making accidents more common.
One day, I do want to grab all of those studies and figure out how to make them work together. Watched something on Mythbusters about roundabouts vs. 4-way stops, and combine that with some other stuff I've read, once the ZA hits, us Mustachians can really make an effective system...or get involved in advocacy...whatever

Roundabouts are interesting.  I don't know how they are usually done, but here they have the bikes get on the sidewalk on the outer loop, which then creates silly crossings at each exit.  They obviously didn't take into consideration how bikes would want to cross, which is not doing a 90* left turn getting off the sidewalk.  On group rides about half of us were using sidewalks, the other half just riding the roundabout.  The only worry I have with the roundabouts is that it has a leading up to path that is fairly narrow with a curb on the side so if you get pinched by a car you have no place to go.

What was the conclusion from Mythbusters on the roundabouts?  I'll probably google it some day, but was curious.

Idaho has a red as yield law for bicycles.  Essentially it makes Red lights and Stop signs equivalent to yield signs, so you only legally have to slow down and look, but do not have to stop.  Portland almost passed it, perhaps they will try again later, but they do have some intersections with signage that says bikes do not have to stop.

The Mythbusters episode was called Traffic Tricks (http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/videos/mythbusters-traffic-tricks-videos/), and they weren't talking about bikes, but once they gave the drivers 30 minutes to get used to the roundabouts, it turned out to be way more effective. As far as bikes go, I think just allowing them to use the entire lane (which is what I do on the few roundabouts in my city) would be very effective. That law you mentioned is awesome, and makes a lot of sense. I do that anyway with the 2 dead reds on my usual commute, but a law backing me up (instead of being illegal) would be awesome. I'll see about sending that idea to my city gov't. Almost nobody votes, so I'm pretty sure I can get it passed...at least at the city level. :D
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: ohyonghao on January 23, 2015, 02:40:18 PM
But in the 13 months I've biked I've only had 2 cars wiz by too close, 1 pull out in front of me (that lady), and one idiot pull his truck into the bike lane while two cars back waiting on a red light to make a right turn.
Here in Atlanta having cars whiz by me too close is a regular experience. It's rare that I don't have a ride longer than about 3 miles where that doesn't occur.

Well, now that you mention 3 miles, that's how long my commute is :-D

I didn't believe you, just due to the number of miles you get. I was imagining some 40 mile commute...so I looked at your sheet. You do a lot of recreational riding!! It actually is kind of reassuring, since I have been looking at moving, but wasn't sure how I could get my miles if I moved all close to work (which just so happens to be in one of the areas we are looking at).

For my part, I have yet to be whizzed by on the streets here (about 4 years biking on and off). There is one exception. One of the paths I've ridden on eventually turns into a bike lane on a 50mph highway/frontage road. Nothing malicious, but that can freak you out. I'm pretty sure nobody hadn't seen me, just misjudge how much air is displaced at 50mph. The one consistent thing I have are idiots on cell phones who ignore the crosswalks. The one thing that gets me is that these are not regular crosswalks. They aren't at an intersection, they are only there (with clear signage, well painted, and the crosswalk is usually raised like a huge speed bump) stating that a bike path intersects here (and the path goers have the right of way).

Yeah, I'm jealous of some of the ones here that get 20-30 mi every day in.  My weekends are usually, get up early, go riding for 3-4 hours, get home around 12-1, then spend the rest of the day with my wife.  I'm going to try doing about 40 miles in less than 3 hours on Saturday for a solo ride with an average gradient of 1% that gets around 1200' elevation.  I saw some people in the same Strava club do the ride in just over 2 hours, but I don't think I'm quite that elite to maintain a pace of 20mph for 2 hours, plus they probably drafted and took turns pulling.  Sunday my friends will be over and we're going to do a 30-40mi hilly ride (the range is due to one of them being 300lbs and might not be up for the optional 5mi there and back at 4% grade towards the end).

Also there's a group of intermediate to pro riders that meet a few times a week after work if the weathers good.  After my 5k training and run is done I'll try to start doing those again on Wednesday nights.  My miles are basically 35mi from daily commute, and I try to get 100mi in otherwise.  50mi is about 3 hours with no hills, and 20mi is just over an hour.  Those are riding solo.  Group rides I find take longer, not because we ride slow, but because we chat during breaks and usually end up in a bar :-D.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 23, 2015, 02:57:38 PM
The bike was weighted way too far back, and felt like it was going to flip backwards, won't be doing that again, at least not with so many groceries.
That's interesting. I've never had this issue, despite having heavy groceries in the back (and sometimes in conjunction with a trailer). Are the groceries on a rack top bag? Or panniers hanging from the sides of the rack?[/s]
Oops, missed your response.
Haha, she was in a baby seat that still allows me to use both sides of my rack for panniers. I can't imagine what people would think if I just strapped to the back rack... They already think the well protected seat is too high up and dangerous... It is not like we go very fast.
Baby seats are not all that safe because you end up top heavy. Can also contribute to you feeling like you'll fall over backwards.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 23, 2015, 03:02:18 PM
Idaho has a red as yield law for bicycles.  Essentially it makes Red lights and Stop signs equivalent to yield signs, so you only legally have to slow down and look, but do not have to stop.  Portland almost passed it, perhaps they will try again later, but they do have some intersections with signage that says bikes do not have to stop.
This sounds pretty dumb to me. Do you know their reasoning?
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 23, 2015, 03:22:54 PM
Idaho has a red as yield law for bicycles.  Essentially it makes Red lights and Stop signs equivalent to yield signs, so you only legally have to slow down and look, but do not have to stop.  Portland almost passed it, perhaps they will try again later, but they do have some intersections with signage that says bikes do not have to stop.
This sounds pretty dumb to me. Do you know their reasoning?

Why does it sound dumb? It takes more effort for us riders to start and stop than cars, plus we are more agile. I can run circles around cars...so long as they're going slow.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: TrMama on January 23, 2015, 03:59:00 PM

Nice work on the riding in winter thing, people. We may not have snow and ice here, but we have other hazards at this time of year...

The joys of cycling in the tropics. (http://www.couriermail.com.au/questnews/moreton/mangoes-of-mango-hill-create-hazard-for-drivers-and-cyclists-alike/story-fni9r1i7-1227193526162)


That is hilarious! Mango hazards. /snicker

Can't they be picked and eaten before they become life threatening?
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 23, 2015, 04:08:51 PM
Idaho has a red as yield law for bicycles.  Essentially it makes Red lights and Stop signs equivalent to yield signs, so you only legally have to slow down and look, but do not have to stop.  Portland almost passed it, perhaps they will try again later, but they do have some intersections with signage that says bikes do not have to stop.
This sounds pretty dumb to me. Do you know their reasoning?

Why does it sound dumb? It takes more effort for us riders to start and stop than cars, plus we are more agile. I can run circles around cars...so long as they're going slow.
If we don't need to require every vehicle that can cause an accident to come to a full stop at a red light or stop sign, why not let cars do the same thing?
Sure, a bicycle doesn't weigh literally more than a ton and has no chance of directly causing damage to a car driver. But, a bicyclist can cause an accident which involves multiple cars, which can be quite deadly. The same way that a pedestrian has no chance of directly causing damage to a car driver, but can still cause a deadly accident at an intersection.

I can make an exception for ignoring stop signs and lights at "T" intersections where there is a bike lane, and you're riding along the top of the T - in that scenario, you are literally in nobody else's path by just blowing through the stop sign/light. But we have stop signs and lights for a reason.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: ohyonghao on January 23, 2015, 04:28:30 PM
Idaho has a red as yield law for bicycles.  Essentially it makes Red lights and Stop signs equivalent to yield signs, so you only legally have to slow down and look, but do not have to stop.  Portland almost passed it, perhaps they will try again later, but they do have some intersections with signage that says bikes do not have to stop.
This sounds pretty dumb to me. Do you know their reasoning?

Why does it sound dumb? It takes more effort for us riders to start and stop than cars, plus we are more agile. I can run circles around cars...so long as they're going slow.
If we don't need to require every vehicle that can cause an accident to come to a full stop at a red light or stop sign, why not let cars do the same thing?
Sure, a bicycle doesn't weigh literally more than a ton and has no chance of directly causing damage to a car driver. But, a bicyclist can cause an accident which involves multiple cars, which can be quite deadly. The same way that a pedestrian has no chance of directly causing damage to a car driver, but can still cause a deadly accident at an intersection.

I can make an exception for ignoring stop signs and lights at "T" intersections where there is a bike lane, and you're riding along the top of the T - in that scenario, you are literally in nobody else's path by just blowing through the stop sign/light. But we have stop signs and lights for a reason.

Perhaps you are missing the part of what a yield sign is.  You see them sometimes on freeway onramps for the right lane to yield to left turners from the intersection if there are any.  What that means is if there is a car/other traffic, then you have to stop and yield the right of way to them.  So if I come up on an intersection with a stop sign and no other vehicles are around I can go through it without stopping.  If there is a vehicle at the intersection, like when I am riding up to an intersection and see a car who will get to their four way stop before me, then I proceed as a normal four way stop.

At a lighted intersection then if I come up on a red light and see no traffic, I can go through, this part may actually require a stop, so making it essentially a stop sign rather than a red light.  It's not a red as green, it's a red as yield, so be smart and yield to traffic, but if there is none to yield to by all means go through the intersection checking for traffic and be safe.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 23, 2015, 04:47:00 PM
Perhaps you are missing the part of what a yield sign is.  You see them sometimes on freeway onramps for the right lane to yield to left turners from the intersection if there are any.  What that means is if there is a car/other traffic, then you have to stop and yield the right of way to them.  So if I come up on an intersection with a stop sign and no other vehicles are around I can go through it without stopping.  If there is a vehicle at the intersection, like when I am riding up to an intersection and see a car who will get to their four way stop before me, then I proceed as a normal four way stop.

At a lighted intersection then if I come up on a red light and see no traffic, I can go through, this part may actually require a stop, so making it essentially a stop sign rather than a red light.  It's not a red as green, it's a red as yield, so be smart and yield to traffic, but if there is none to yield to by all means go through the intersection checking for traffic and be safe.
Oh no I'm perfectly aware of what a yield sign means, thank you very much. I do have a car and drive around just fine, thank you.

All I'm saying is that if we can change red to mean yield for bicycles, then why not make a red mean yield for cars? I've already showed that a bicyclist can cause a crash that is just as deadly as one that only involves cars.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Primm on January 23, 2015, 10:26:57 PM

Nice work on the riding in winter thing, people. We may not have snow and ice here, but we have other hazards at this time of year...

The joys of cycling in the tropics. (http://www.couriermail.com.au/questnews/moreton/mangoes-of-mango-hill-create-hazard-for-drivers-and-cyclists-alike/story-fni9r1i7-1227193526162)


That is hilarious! Mango hazards. /snicker

Can't they be picked and eaten before they become life threatening?

A lot of them get dropped because the bats and birds have started to eat them and they've gone rotten. Picked and eaten? No. Every second house has a mango tree in the back yard (we have one, our next door neighbour has 4!) and this year they are particularly prolific. Multiply several hundred mangoes (at least, maybe 1000) per tree by a couple of hundred trees in that street alone, and add that to the fact that most people in the area grow their own. Plus they're not the breed that ships well or can be sold in fruit shops.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: UnleashHell on January 24, 2015, 05:05:39 AM
Haha, she was in a baby seat that still allows me to use both sides of my rack for panniers. I can't imagine what people would think if I just strapped to the back rack... They already think the well protected seat is too high up and dangerous... It is not like we go very fast.

I'm only a crazy uncle, not a parent, but I imagine that you could put them wherever with a roll cage. I've thought about putting my nephew in one of my panniers, just for fun. He was all about it...and they know what's best...right?

roll cage? I'm picturing you strapping a dog crate to your bike now.....for the kid.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Thegoblinchief on January 24, 2015, 06:21:47 AM
You laugh at the kid in panniers, but Native Americans did that for centuries. Granted, walking speed on horseback is different than panniers on a bike, but papooses sound awesome - I would have loved that as a kid.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 24, 2015, 10:13:40 AM
You laugh at the kid in panniers, but Native Americans did that for centuries. Granted, walking speed on horseback is different than panniers on a bike, but papooses sound awesome - I would have loved that as a kid.
They have the kangaroo seats that are like a car seat that mount to the handlebars too. I always thought that would be fun for a kid.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Russ on January 24, 2015, 04:18:53 PM
Perhaps you are missing the part of what a yield sign is.  You see them sometimes on freeway onramps for the right lane to yield to left turners from the intersection if there are any.  What that means is if there is a car/other traffic, then you have to stop and yield the right of way to them.  So if I come up on an intersection with a stop sign and no other vehicles are around I can go through it without stopping.  If there is a vehicle at the intersection, like when I am riding up to an intersection and see a car who will get to their four way stop before me, then I proceed as a normal four way stop.

At a lighted intersection then if I come up on a red light and see no traffic, I can go through, this part may actually require a stop, so making it essentially a stop sign rather than a red light.  It's not a red as green, it's a red as yield, so be smart and yield to traffic, but if there is none to yield to by all means go through the intersection checking for traffic and be safe.
Oh no I'm perfectly aware of what a yield sign means, thank you very much. I do have a car and drive around just fine, thank you.

All I'm saying is that if we can change red to mean yield for bicycles, then why not make a red mean yield for cars? I've already showed that a bicyclist can cause a crash that is just as deadly as one that only involves cars.

It has less to do with deadliness than it has to do with the fact that there are no blind spots on a bicycle. If you creep through a stop sign in your car you could very easily miss someone coming up behind your A pillar. That problem cannot exist on a bicycle. A bicycle operator has better visibility and can therefore more safely "yield" instead of "stop".

Also go on however you want about how bicycles can cause multiple car pileups, but please think about the last time you actually heard of that happening.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 24, 2015, 05:01:28 PM
Oh no I'm perfectly aware of what a yield sign means, thank you very much. I do have a car and drive around just fine, thank you.

All I'm saying is that if we can change red to mean yield for bicycles, then why not make a red mean yield for cars? I've already showed that a bicyclist can cause a crash that is just as deadly as one that only involves cars.

It has less to do with deadliness than it has to do with the fact that there are no blind spots on a bicycle. If you creep through a stop sign in your car you could very easily miss someone coming up behind your A pillar. That problem cannot exist on a bicycle. A bicycle operator has better visibility and can therefore more safely "yield" instead of "stop".

Also go on however you want about how bicycles can cause multiple car pileups, but please think about the last time you actually heard of that happening.
Ok, so then why haven't we let motorcylists do the same thing? They don't have any blind spots either.

I haven't heard of it, sure. But states have jaywalking laws on the books because a pedestrian can cause a car pileup. Just because a law exists to prevent something that rarely occurs doesn't mean it shouldn't be on the books.
If you're of the opinion that we should get rid of all jaywalking laws, and let cyclists and motorcylists yield through stop signs and red lights, then I'm fine with that. At least it's all consistent.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Russ on January 24, 2015, 06:15:34 PM
Oh no I'm perfectly aware of what a yield sign means, thank you very much. I do have a car and drive around just fine, thank you.

All I'm saying is that if we can change red to mean yield for bicycles, then why not make a red mean yield for cars? I've already showed that a bicyclist can cause a crash that is just as deadly as one that only involves cars.

It has less to do with deadliness than it has to do with the fact that there are no blind spots on a bicycle. If you creep through a stop sign in your car you could very easily miss someone coming up behind your A pillar. That problem cannot exist on a bicycle. A bicycle operator has better visibility and can therefore more safely "yield" instead of "stop".

Also go on however you want about how bicycles can cause multiple car pileups, but please think about the last time you actually heard of that happening.
Ok, so then why haven't we let motorcylists do the same thing? They don't have any blind spots either.

Good question! I certainly don't have a problem with it.

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I haven't heard of it, sure. But states have jaywalking laws on the books because a pedestrian can cause a car pileup. Just because a law exists to prevent something that rarely occurs doesn't mean it shouldn't be on the books.
If you're of the opinion that we should get rid of all jaywalking laws, and let cyclists and motorcylists yield through stop signs and red lights, then I'm fine with that. At least it's all consistent.
Again with the pileup thing.

Funny you mention pedestrian crossings though, as they are usually not as illegal as you think. Exemptions are often made for pedestrians to cross outside of "legal" crosswalks if the next nearest crosswalk or intersection is inconveniently far away, for example. There are also exemptions for cases in which signals fail to change. And pedestrians always have right-of-way at stop signs. A pedestrian has to *actively try* to do something illegal, as long as they are not being reckless.

Nobody is advocating recklessness, just questioning the necessity of a full stop where yielding instead is a significantly lower burden on the operator and does not appreciably increase risk.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Russ on January 24, 2015, 06:27:09 PM
Please see: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop#Positions

Note that the only unrefuted con is "but children!"

Safety pros would also apply to motorcycles. Many more apply to bicycles only.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 24, 2015, 10:07:55 PM
Please see: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop#Positions

Note that the only unrefuted con is "but children!"

Safety pros would also apply to motorcycles. Many more apply to bicycles only.
The other con of having bicycles operate under a different set of rules at intersections than cars is still valid though. Many drivers already don't know how to deal with cyclists on the road. Allowing cyclists to follow a different set of rules would only make that worse.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Russ on January 24, 2015, 10:41:48 PM
No, that's somebody making up reasons why they think the Idaho Stop is less safe. Too bad the actual study done showed that the Idaho Stop increased safety. It's cited right there in the link!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 24, 2015, 10:56:01 PM
No, that's somebody making up reasons why they think the Idaho Stop is less safe. Too bad the actual study done showed that the Idaho Stop increased safety. It's cited right there in the link!
Huh. Now that was unexpected to me. I guess it actually is a good idea.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: chillyphilly on January 25, 2015, 07:23:15 AM
I'm in for the challenge. I've ridden the last couple of years but never logged the miles. I don't put on a lot of miles, just over 8 miles round trip to work, but I suppose it'll add up. Just pulled out the bicycle again for the first time this year.

I rode a Kawasaki Ninja quite a bit last year, and one thing I noticed hopping on my bicycle this morning is that it's so nimble! The Ninja's are pretty sporty themselves, but it has nothin' on a bicycle! Just funny how much you forget in so little time.

Oh, and I live in Idaho and happen to like the stop sign rule. It makes it a lot less hectic for me to ride and really streamlines my cycling. I haven't had any issues with it and vehicular traffic...just use your brains.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Thegoblinchief on January 25, 2015, 07:36:09 AM
Even though the "Idaho stop" rule isn't technically the law in WI, that's how I treat stop signs when cars aren't around. Most of the stops I encounter either have great visibility or I'm naturally going slow enough that I could easily full stop if a car beat me and had the right of way.

Hell, half the time cars are around, they're so used to bikers just blasting through that it seems silly to stop and play the "wave through, no YOU go first, no YOU go first" game, but I do it anyways.

I've seen bikers doing some absolutely idiotic stuff. My personal favorite was some black guys doing wheelies in the middle of the road THE WRONG WAY in downtown Baltimore. I think they were daring people to say something. I did and had them flip me off, while continuing to veer into traffic.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 25, 2015, 07:40:38 AM
Oh, and I live in Idaho and happen to like the stop sign rule. It makes it a lot less hectic for me to ride and really streamlines my cycling. I haven't had any issues with it and vehicular traffic...just use your brains.
Oh I had no doubt at the beginning of this discussion that it streamlines your riding. I just had doubts, since alleviated, that it would actually be beneficial to have as a law.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: MidwestBiker on January 27, 2015, 09:59:38 AM
Argh! Blew out rear rim on the ride home last night. Thought I had some ice on the rim until I pulled over just before getting home to see the rim bulging out. I'm thinking it was a particularly rough RR track crossing that did it. The wheels are 20+ years old. Hope I can get a new one today, or my streak of 20+ mile days may be over. Hope everyone is having fun on their bikes!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Russ on January 27, 2015, 10:12:43 AM
I'm thinking it was 20 years of brake wear that did it.

FTFY
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Armer Student on January 27, 2015, 01:02:29 PM
Hope everyone is having fun on their bikes!

uh yeah. Learned to love my spike tires today. Many many cars weren't able to climb a tiny hill around the Friedensengel in Munich .. my bike and me totally loved passing them. :-)

But .. my commute was ~30min longer than on snow-free days. :/

Nothing that would stop me from biking, though. ;-)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 27, 2015, 01:12:14 PM
Hope everyone is having fun on their bikes!

uh yeah. Learned to love my spike tires today. Many many cars weren't able to climb a tiny hill around the Friedensengel in Munich .. my bike and me totally loved passing them. :-)

But .. my commute was ~30min longer than on snow-free days. :/

Nothing that would stop me from biking, though. ;-)

I actually have a spot on my route where I stop and feel superior to the cars. Gotta love it.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Armer Student on January 27, 2015, 01:34:11 PM
I actually have a spot on my route where I stop and feel superior to the cars. Gotta love it.
Well, you could basically stop anywhere and feel superior to car drivers. Because you are. :-)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 27, 2015, 03:14:49 PM
Hope everyone is having fun on their bikes!

uh yeah. Learned to love my spike tires today. Many many cars weren't able to climb a tiny hill around the Friedensengel in Munich .. my bike and me totally loved passing them. :-)

But .. my commute was ~30min longer than on snow-free days. :/

Nothing that would stop me from biking, though. ;-)

I actually have a spot on my route where I stop and feel superior to the cars. Gotta love it.
This happens to me when I pass by tons of cars while I'm in the bike lane =)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: MidwestBiker on January 27, 2015, 07:27:43 PM
New wheel. Back on the road. Great night for a ride.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: mskyle on January 28, 2015, 08:48:17 AM
With ~2 feet of snow on the ground I switched out my slicks for touring/cross tires today, and am now trying to work up the courage to ride in to work... my coworker is trying to convince me I need studs, but I mostly stay on city streets and I feel like it would be more trouble than it's worth (he has multiple bikes and so he can ride the MTB with studs on an icy day and switch to the fixie with slicks if the weather improves... I just have one hybrid, not even an extra set of wheels).

Any thoughts on studs for urban riding? In my mind they feel like Yaktrax - nice when you're on ice, but annoying when you're not; I've never actually tried them in real life. I've spent a lot on my bike this year and I'm not eager to buy another set of tires, though it's still cheaper than driving (or even a transit pass!).
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: TrMama on January 28, 2015, 10:15:11 AM
I'm thinking it was 20 years of brake wear that did it.

FTFY

Yeah, I had to replace my back wheel a few weeks ago due to having almost no rim left even though it was only 4 years old. Gotta love the sanding action provided by riding in the rain all the time. I left it so long the rim actually collapsed when I levered the tire off it (the tire was still in good shape).

Tonight I get to replace the front tire, which seems to have finally worn out.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: ohyonghao on January 28, 2015, 10:52:41 AM
Hope everyone is having fun on their bikes!

uh yeah. Learned to love my spike tires today. Many many cars weren't able to climb a tiny hill around the Friedensengel in Munich .. my bike and me totally loved passing them. :-)

But .. my commute was ~30min longer than on snow-free days. :/

Nothing that would stop me from biking, though. ;-)

I actually have a spot on my route where I stop and feel superior to the cars. Gotta love it.
This happens to me when I pass by tons of cars while I'm in the bike lane =)

Leaving my work there is a 1 mile stretch of road with essentially a single outlet to the main artery.  Needless to say that the 9-5 office workers that are employed here end up getting backed up every single day.  I have driven it before and it can take more than 10 minutes to make it to the light.  Last night I was riding by after having read MMM's repost of David Cain (Raptitude) about how to walk across a parking lot.  I get immense satisfaction from flying by everyone sitting in their clown cars.  This can actually happen on three spots on my route, and also happened this morning on my way in on a different spot.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Wolf_Stache on January 28, 2015, 11:27:58 AM
The road in front of my work can get so backed up that it can take over 20 min to go a block. If the bridge on the highway that the road connects to go goes up, it can take even longer. It's pretty fun walking or biking along the road and passing all the drivers.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Mrs. PoP on January 28, 2015, 05:40:48 PM
My bike basket is finally on its last legs.  Anyone have recommendations on panniers? 

I ride a 7-speed jamis commuter hybrid (bought new in 2005) and have fenders mounted on the front and back wheels.  Here's a pic: http://www.plantingourpennies.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/20140907-182952-66592380.jpg
Once I get panniers, the front basket will go away.

GoGo (that's the bike's name) is pretty heavy already and I'm not super big and muscular, so something lightweight that doesn't act like a braking parachute would definitely be appreciated for my 9-mile each way commute.  80-90% of the time I have non-trivial headwinds coming home in the evening and it sucks when I'm wearing a windbreaker that catches those gusts!

Waterproof would be great, but not a deal breaker if the right pair isn't waterproof as I can always continue my gallon-sized ziploc method of water-proofing for the rain. 

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 28, 2015, 06:13:15 PM
My bike basket is finally on its last legs.  Anyone have recommendations on panniers? 

I ride a 7-speed jamis commuter hybrid (bought new in 2005) and have fenders mounted on the front and back wheels.  Here's a pic: http://www.plantingourpennies.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/20140907-182952-66592380.jpg
Once I get panniers, the front basket will go away.

GoGo (that's the bike's name) is pretty heavy already and I'm not super big and muscular, so something lightweight that doesn't act like a braking parachute would definitely be appreciated for my 9-mile each way commute.  80-90% of the time I have non-trivial headwinds coming home in the evening and it sucks when I'm wearing a windbreaker that catches those gusts!

Waterproof would be great, but not a deal breaker if the right pair isn't waterproof as I can always continue my gallon-sized ziploc method of water-proofing for the rain. 

Thanks guys!

I used these (http://amzn.com/B00165Q4QM) for about 2 years completely successfully. Nothing bad happened to them, I just switched to something more appropriate for a laptop. I still use these for carrying things, coupled with this (http://amzn.com/B0014UQ93W). The only issue I had was when I crashed hard, and needed a pair of plyers to bend the hooks back.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Mrs. PoP on January 28, 2015, 07:02:00 PM
Thanks, Jordan.  It's hard to tell from the picture, but they look big.  How big are they?  I don't usually carry much, just lunch and some clothes.  Once in a blue moon I'll transport my laptop between home and the office, but not very often. 
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: johnny847 on January 28, 2015, 08:24:13 PM
Waterproof would be great, but not a deal breaker if the right pair isn't waterproof as I can always continue my gallon-sized ziploc method of water-proofing for the rain. 
Waterproof panniers tend to be quite a bit more expensive than nonwaterproof ones. Also, you can try a super hydrophobic coating such as http://www.amazon.com/Kiwi-Camp-Heavy-Water-Repellent/dp/B00QTYI1F2 (http://www.amazon.com/Kiwi-Camp-Heavy-Water-Repellent/dp/B00QTYI1F2). (I don't recall if you have a technical background...but super hydrophobic just means that the water beads up on the surface, and doesn't get absorbed). So it's not going to be 100% effective, but it will help quite a bit.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 28, 2015, 08:46:02 PM
Thanks, Jordan.  It's hard to tell from the picture, but they look big.  How big are they?  I don't usually carry much, just lunch and some clothes.  Once in a blue moon I'll transport my laptop between home and the office, but not very often.
I'll take some photos in the morning for you, and post them here. What frame of reference do you need?
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Shor on January 28, 2015, 10:20:45 PM
Hey Jordan, quick question about the spreadsheet.
So there is the column of our past months, with the rider avg and our personal record in the next column.
What is the conditional formatting on those cells trying to convey? Some are red, some are green...

Nvm figured it out... They are Red if we've rode more miles in that month compared to the current month...
jeez what a way to motivate me to ride more miles than ever before with each month. Such an angry red... I must make them soothing green! :(
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Mrs. PoP on January 29, 2015, 04:37:18 AM
Thanks, Jordan.  It's hard to tell from the picture, but they look big.  How big are they?  I don't usually carry much, just lunch and some clothes.  Once in a blue moon I'll transport my laptop between home and the office, but not very often.
I'll take some photos in the morning for you, and post them here. What frame of reference do you need?

Hmmm... how about a water bottle?  Or a milk jug if that's closer to the size? 
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 29, 2015, 06:07:17 AM
Hey Jordan, quick question about the spreadsheet.
So there is the column of our past months, with the rider avg and our personal record in the next column.
What is the conditional formatting on those cells trying to convey? Some are red, some are green...

Nvm figured it out... They are Red if we've rode more miles in that month compared to the current month...
jeez what a way to motivate me to ride more miles than ever before with each month. Such an angry red... I must make them soothing green! :(

Yeah, I originally just did it for my sheet, since I've sucked previously and figured that every month should be my best month. And then I just expanded it out. You can remove it if you want, but I do love watching my previous months turn green as I beat them. :)

Thanks, Jordan.  It's hard to tell from the picture, but they look big.  How big are they?  I don't usually carry much, just lunch and some clothes.  Once in a blue moon I'll transport my laptop between home and the office, but not very often.
I'll take some photos in the morning for you, and post them here. What frame of reference do you need?

Hmmm... how about a water bottle?  Or a milk jug if that's closer to the size? 

Here you are (ignore the carpet, that's my bike parking spot :D):
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-55p99PqGvH0/VMopJQ-xCbI/AAAAAAAAMm8/-oekU9YEKWo/w574-h1019-no/IMG_20150129_053517187.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TW8f_7JIQx4/VMopQlLSDfI/AAAAAAAAMnI/TruOMzWlZGk/w574-h1019-no/IMG_20150129_053547831.jpg)

The first image shows how far it can expand, and the second image shows it closed. The thing I really like about these is that you can tighten them down so they are pretty much pieces of fabric when you don't need them. Keeps the wind from catching and makes them easier to carry. I use the top rack thing I linked for my lunch, tools, and tubes, and just leave it on. It is insulated, so that helps too. Depending on how tightly you can fold your clothes, the top one might be the only one you need. :-) Also, if you are going to throw a laptop in there, make sure it has a sleeve.

Let me know if you have anymore questions.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: mskyle on January 29, 2015, 07:43:24 AM
GoGo (that's the bike's name) is pretty heavy already and I'm not super big and muscular, so something lightweight that doesn't act like a braking parachute would definitely be appreciated for my 9-mile each way commute.  80-90% of the time I have non-trivial headwinds coming home in the evening and it sucks when I'm wearing a windbreaker that catches those gusts!

Waterproof would be great, but not a deal breaker if the right pair isn't waterproof as I can always continue my gallon-sized ziploc method of water-proofing for the rain. 

I have a pair similar to Jordan's Avenir's but I think a bit smaller. I usually only one at a time, unless I'm doing a heavy grocery run. They're Novara (the REI house brand) and it doesn't look like they make them anymore, but one of the nice things about them is they have a built-in rain cover that hides in a little pocket on the outside. You can buy a rain cover separately, too... I have no idea if this one (http://www.amazon.com/Axiom-Liter-Pannier-Rain-Cover/dp/B00FL2I360/) is any good but that's the kind of thing I mean. I carry my laptop to and from work a lot (only 4 miles though) and I usually don't bother with the rain cover unless it's pouring - the pannier is actually reasonably water-resistant on its own.

The cover did fail me once when I rode home from the grocery store in thunderstorm, but even then it was only that the stuff on top got damp (but it was a 5-pound bag of sugar, ugh!).

If you're mostly only carrying a change of clothes and lunch you might want to look into a trunk bag (http://www.amazon.com/Avenir-Excursion-Rack-Top-Cubic-Inches/dp/B0014UQ93W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1422542531&sr=8-2&keywords=bicycle+trunk+bag) too.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 29, 2015, 08:24:57 AM
GoGo (that's the bike's name) is pretty heavy already and I'm not super big and muscular, so something lightweight that doesn't act like a braking parachute would definitely be appreciated for my 9-mile each way commute.  80-90% of the time I have non-trivial headwinds coming home in the evening and it sucks when I'm wearing a windbreaker that catches those gusts!

Waterproof would be great, but not a deal breaker if the right pair isn't waterproof as I can always continue my gallon-sized ziploc method of water-proofing for the rain. 

I have a pair similar to Jordan's Avenir's but I think a bit smaller. I usually only one at a time, unless I'm doing a heavy grocery run. They're Novara (the REI house brand) and it doesn't look like they make them anymore, but one of the nice things about them is they have a built-in rain cover that hides in a little pocket on the outside. You can buy a rain cover separately, too... I have no idea if this one (http://www.amazon.com/Axiom-Liter-Pannier-Rain-Cover/dp/B00FL2I360/) is any good but that's the kind of thing I mean. I carry my laptop to and from work a lot (only 4 miles though) and I usually don't bother with the rain cover unless it's pouring - the pannier is actually reasonably water-resistant on its own.

The cover did fail me once when I rode home from the grocery store in thunderstorm, but even then it was only that the stuff on top got damp (but it was a 5-pound bag of sugar, ugh!).

If you're mostly only carrying a change of clothes and lunch you might want to look into a trunk bag (http://www.amazon.com/Avenir-Excursion-Rack-Top-Cubic-Inches/dp/B0014UQ93W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1422542531&sr=8-2&keywords=bicycle+trunk+bag) too.

Ha! That's the exact one I was talking about above, that is insulated like a lunch box. Great minds!! I just couldn't remember that it was called a trunk bag. I use mine for beer runs. I'm going to start using it for groceries. Doing a test run today. So a couple times a week, I will stop by the grocery store to pad my miles and have two panniers. Now I actually need to get a lock for my bike.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Mrs. PoP on January 29, 2015, 05:29:30 PM
The thing I really like about these is that you can tighten them down so they are pretty much pieces of fabric when you don't need them. Keeps the wind from catching and makes them easier to carry.

That is exactly the kind of thing I am looking for.  Thanks!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 29, 2015, 06:17:05 PM
That is exactly the kind of thing I am looking for.  Thanks!

You are welcome!

The test run to the grocery store went well today. It should add about 2-3 more miles on the days I go. Granted, it's at the top of a killer hill, but that just means I get the opportunity to be even more badass. Unfortunately, I just found out I got transferred to another department (why does the cloud infrastructure team need a software engineer? I don't know, but they are stoked, and it should be fun) and that will require me to be up in Denver for an indeterminate amount of time. 2 - 3 weeks is best guess. We shall see how it goes. I might try to do some fun riding just to keep the habit going. Maybe I should park my car at my Colorado Springs office, ride there, and drive the rest of the way. Might be a viable option, although I wouldn't want to be in a car with me right after a bike ride :-)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: b4u2 on January 30, 2015, 07:23:22 AM
Tomorrow is my birthday and I am not getting overtime next week so maybe I can free up some time and finally set my bicycle up correctly. I need to fully retune it and set the derailers properly. I kinda miss bicycle riding and the cold weather is killing me. If I can I'll try and get it out this weekend.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: Roadhog on January 31, 2015, 10:24:31 AM
I'm really happy with myself.   I've been bike commuting since 2007, but I have never commuted by bike in December or January, convincing myself it was too dark, cold, etc.   For January 2015 I have managed 157.5 miles by bike.  Fantastic since in all prior Januaries, my total was a big fat zero!
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on January 31, 2015, 05:16:18 PM
I'm really happy with myself.   I've been bike commuting since 2007, but I have never commuted by bike in December or January, convincing myself it was too dark, cold, etc.   For January 2015 I have managed 157.5 miles by bike.  Fantastic since in all prior Januaries, my total was a big fat zero!

Way to go!! I've found that once you get the gear dialed in, it's just as fun (although of a different kind) as riding in 'nice' weather.

On my side, due to a ride I went on with wolf_stache while she was visiting put me over 300 miles in a month!! As a point of reference (and bragging), for the previous 9 months I've been doing this challenge, my record was 155 miles. That's almost double!! Had I looked at this earlier, I would have tooled around to actually get over double my previous record. It's gonna be hard to do that now. And I can say that this challenge has been the main reason I've been able to pull that off.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: jordanread on February 01, 2015, 11:07:34 AM
The new challenge is up!!

February 2015 Cycling Challenge! (http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/throw-down-the-gauntlet/february-cycling-challenge-2015/)
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: b4u2 on February 02, 2015, 07:44:51 AM
I wish I knew or lived near people that biked here in Cedar Rapids. I looked on my company website for clubs but the site is old with nothing for a few years updated. It would be more motivating to ride with someone rather than by myself. I'll try and see if there is a group outside the company I work for that rides.

I almost ordered a bike stand but then Sunday morning I did my weight training and decided to do some cardio. I took my bicycle down and broke out my trainer I bought when I dislocated my shoulder a few years ago. As I started setting it up and riding I realized I could use my trainer as the stand to fine tune and adjust the gears on my bike. It's not a perfect set up but it allows me to spin the rear wheel and change gears. Saves me about $40 over ordering a bike repair stand.

It snowed 12 inches over the weekend and it was a wet, heavy snow.
Title: Re: January Cycling Challenge 2015
Post by: wintersun on February 05, 2015, 06:07:23 PM
I am still here!

did not meet my January challenge but am ready for February.  Once again my goal is time not miles since I am on a stationary bike.  Perhaps I could use a fitbit or phone app to gauge miles?