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W-2 Line 12 Code D employee or employer contrib ?
« on: February 21, 2018, 10:07:29 PM »
I have a part time job with a public school system and a few years ago in lieu of continuing in the pension system I opted to have the employer contribute an equivalent of 4% of my gross pay to a 401k plan. The amount of this contribution is showing up on line 12 with the code of D, which suggests it’s an employee elective deferral, but that shouldn’t be correct, it should be an employer contribution.

I’m concerned because I have a self-employed business where I max out my elective deferral in my own solo 401k plan. So this line 12 Code D on the w-2 eats into my maxing out my own business 401k employee deduction.

Not sure what to do here. When I look at my pay stub, the 4% contribution is listed under “employer paid taxes and benefits.” When I open up the Voya administered website for the 401k plan, it says the source is “employer mandatory 4%”, and it says it is vested 100%. When I generate a statement for this 401k it lists these 4% contributions only as employer contributions, 0 employee contributions.

My CPA who is doing my taxes is giving me a hard time about this – he says I can’t make a 24,000 employee contribution to self-employed 401k plan (over 50 here) and simultaneously have an additional amount listed on line 12, code D.

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Re: W-2 Line 12 Code D employee or employer contrib ?
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2018, 06:55:41 AM »
Sounds to me as if the employer (or the payroll company) did the W-2 wrong. That does happen.

If that's case, they need to and should correct.

BTW, if they won't correct, though its unfair and dastardly, I think you'll need to dial down your self-employed business's employee's elective deferral amount. Because IRS will spot this issue immediately and defer to the W-2 numbers (assuming they are right and you are wrong.)

Sorry.

P.S. I hope you're an S corporation... :-) Those FICA savings usually beat the tax deferral benefit of a pension.

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Re: W-2 Line 12 Code D employee or employer contrib ?
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2018, 07:17:32 PM »
thanks the employer issued a new w-2, but my accountant insists it should be a w-2 corrected version, and not just simply another w-2

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Re: W-2 Line 12 Code D employee or employer contrib ?
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2018, 07:25:20 PM »
thanks the employer issued a new w-2, but my accountant insists it should be a w-2 corrected version, and not just simply another w-2

I think they need to issue a corrected W-2 if they sent the original to the IRS.

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Re: W-2 Line 12 Code D employee or employer contrib ?
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2018, 07:29:03 PM »
My accountant said, "a corrected w-2 goes on form w-2c."

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Re: W-2 Line 12 Code D employee or employer contrib ?
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2018, 07:39:43 PM »
My accountant said, "a corrected w-2 goes on form w-2c."

Well, I guess that's true... but if employer didn't actually file the W-2 with IRS, it shouldn't file a W-2c to correct. That was my point.

Another way to illustrate this same thing...when we prepare W-2s for clients, we first prepare drafts which we then review. When we find a mistake in a draft, we don't then (for our corrections) file a W-2c...

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Re: W-2 Line 12 Code D employee or employer contrib ?
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2018, 08:00:00 PM »
This is a big employer, with thousands of employees, so I assume they already sent the w-2 to the IRS when they sent me the w-2. But i can call tomorrow to find out.

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Re: W-2 Line 12 Code D employee or employer contrib ?
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2018, 09:36:32 PM »
This is a big employer, with thousands of employees, so I assume they already sent the w-2 to the IRS when they sent me the w-2. But i can call tomorrow to find out.

Actually, it was due 1/31... so a big employer would have surely made that deadline.

Is it too late to agree with your accountant? :-)

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Re: W-2 Line 12 Code D employee or employer contrib ?
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2018, 04:32:00 PM »
my accountant is my brother and lately he's not returning my phone calls.
so not sure, but i called the payroll office and they said they mailed the corrected w-2 in, and since i hadn't done my taxes yet, the w-2 they gave me as a replacement should be fine.

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Re: W-2 Line 12 Code D employee or employer contrib ?
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2018, 05:14:55 PM »
my accountant is my brother and lately he's not returning my phone calls.
so not sure, but i called the payroll office and they said they mailed the corrected w-2 in, and since i hadn't done my taxes yet, the w-2 they gave me as a replacement should be fine.

Okay, got it  Your brother. LOL... LOL...

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Re: W-2 Line 12 Code D employee or employer contrib ?
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2018, 07:42:49 PM »
Ok finally got through. My brother is concerned that the payroll didn't send in the corrected W-2, using the W-2 C form. Nonetheless, he's willing to go forward with what they gave me. Hopefully, the IRS won't find a problem with what the payroll office did.