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icyappraiser

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IRS Underpayment Penalty - help me understand
« on: March 03, 2022, 11:45:09 AM »
Getting ready to file my 2021 Federal Tax Return (US) and we owe >$5k, which is primarily due to a significant amount of 1099-INT interest income from savings bonds I cashed in Dec-2021 (no tax was withheld at the time).

FreeTaxUSA is telling me I may owe $37 of Underpayment Penalty - not a huge deal but I'd just like to understand how the calculation works.

Per the IRS (https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/estimated-taxes):
"If you didn’t pay enough tax throughout the year, either through withholding or by making estimated tax payments, you may have to pay a penalty for underpayment of estimated tax. Generally, most taxpayers will avoid this penalty if they owe less than $1,000 in tax after subtracting their withholdings and credits, or if they paid at least 90% of the tax for the current year, or 100% of the tax shown on the return for the prior year, whichever is smaller."

My numbers are as follows:
2021 Federal Tax Withheld: $19.4k
2021 Federal Tax: $24.8k
Amount Owed: $5.4k

2020 Federal Tax: $20.4k

As I read that, the penalty will only be assessed on the $1.0k difference between the $20.4k tax from 2020 and the $19.4k withheld during 2021. Is that an accurate understanding?

The software is also asking me a couple questions that may help limit/eliminate the penalty:

1. Do you want to figure your penalty using the annualized income installment method because your income varied during the year? (This is most beneficial if you had more income during the end of the year)
2. Do you want to treat your federal income tax withheld from your wages as paid on the dates it was actually withheld instead of in equal amounts through the year?

Should I consider these options?

I've never done either of these things, but I'm willing to consider them if it will eliminate the penalty. But if they are a big hassle I will just pay the $37 and learn my lesson on this one.

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Re: IRS Underpayment Penalty - help me understand
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2022, 12:06:40 PM »
If you had $5000 in interest income in December, then option 1 looks like it will eliminate the penalty.

You'd have to list your income in a table for the entire year. If you're on a W2, this should be easy.

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Re: IRS Underpayment Penalty - help me understand
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2022, 12:10:58 PM »
@bacchi thanks, yes, that's what I was thinking (it was actually around $15k in interest income - which generated most of the $5k tax bill).

Yes, I'm W-2. While I can easily get total income by month/quarter, FreeTaxUSA is asking me for my AGI by quarter, which is more difficult to calculate...

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Re: IRS Underpayment Penalty - help me understand
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2022, 03:26:10 PM »
While I can easily get total income by month/quarter, FreeTaxUSA is asking me for my AGI by quarter, which is more difficult to calculate...
Also note that Form 2210's definition of "quarter" is...unusual.

Without knowing you or your situation, a guess of 1 to 2 hours to gather info and fill form 2210 is not unreasonable.


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Re: IRS Underpayment Penalty - help me understand
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2022, 04:26:28 PM »
Is that an accurate understanding?

No.  The section you quoted is *whether or not* you might owe an underpayment penalty.

The *amount* of the underpayment penalty is calculated in several different ways, but the way you described is not one of them.

Should I consider these options?

I agree with the others that the first option will probably work, although you'll have some work to do allocating your income by "quarter".

There are (at least) two other options which your tax software may or may not support:

1.  Ask for a waiver of the underpayment penalty.  See Form 2210 Part II boxes A and B.

2.  Leave the underpayment penalty line (line 38) blank and see if the IRS sends you a bill.  I've read anecdotes about people being subject to the underpayment penalty, leaving line 38 blank, and never getting a bill.  Leaving line 38 blank is acceptable per the instructions (page 63, top of column 2 at https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040gi.pdf).

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Re: IRS Underpayment Penalty - help me understand
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2022, 05:11:37 PM »
As I read that, the penalty will only be assessed on the $1.0k difference between the $20.4k tax from 2020 and the $19.4k withheld during 2021. Is that an accurate understanding?
It's reasonably accurate, unless your 2020 AGI was >$150K, in which case you would have to multiply $20.4K times 110%, getting $22.4K, and 90% of $24.8K would give the slightly lower $22.3K and it would be difference between that and $19.4K that would be relevant.

Building your own spreadsheet to do form 2210 calculations isn't too onerous.  It's addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division, and nothing very complicated.  Perhaps a bit tedious....

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Re: IRS Underpayment Penalty - help me understand
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2022, 07:36:23 AM »
For a different perspective, here's the way that I, as a tax accountant, see these penalties.

Basically you're paying the IRS interest on a fraction of the taxes you were supposed to pay earlier.

The "interest rate" actually isn't that bad. Especially when you think about it as a percentage of the taxes you underpaid.

And it's really not worth worrying about. But if really bugs you, start over-withholding in future.

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Re: IRS Underpayment Penalty - help me understand
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2022, 01:38:12 PM »
Thanks all for the tips and info - this forum always comes in clutch!

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Re: IRS Underpayment Penalty - help me understand
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2022, 08:34:53 AM »
As an aside, the penalty rate is 3% right now, but as soon as the Fed raises rates, any increases get included.  So if the Fed raises rates 1% this year, the penalty would be 4% next year.
https://www.investopedia.com/irs-interest-rates-q1-2022-stable-5210760

Many years ago I thought about reducing a small underpayment penalty by entering quarterly tax information - what a mistake!  Where your 1099-DIV has a single number, with this quarterly approach you have to track down every dividend payment and enter it in the appropriate quarter.  Same with interest & stock sales.

To me, it wasn't worth it, so I just try to get close to the tax I owe and not worry if there's an underpayment penalty.