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sockfight

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Car rental business - unusual tax questions
« on: September 27, 2021, 08:18:18 AM »
I have a couple of business tax questions and was hoping there might be someone knowledgable here!

I had an extra car at the end of last year. It used to be my primary personal car, but I got a new one. Rather than sell the extra car, I signed a contract with a company. They operate out of airports, and their business model is people drop their cars off and they rent them out to other people. The contract I signed put the car at their disposal for a year. I was to be paid a daily rate any day they actually rented the car out. The contract also stipulated a monthly minimum payment and various bonuses. I have two questions:

First: When I began this contract last year, I determined that this represented putting the car 100% in service to my business (I formed an LLC). The car was no longer parked at the house and no longer available whatsoever for personal use. So I took the car's fair market value and began depreciating the car as an asset (5Y SL, I believe). Fast forward to this summer. After making money for about six months, the car was involved in an incident and declared a total loss. Because of the car shortage, the market value of the car actually increased and the insurance payout was higher than the fair market value at the time I placed the car in service. How does this unusual situation - an asset that appreciated rather than depreciated - affect my taxes? Do I have to pay tax on the excess value? Does this get reported as a disposition of asset? Does the fact that it was not always in service to the business matter?

Second: Would the income this enterprise generated be considered passive income? 

Thank you!

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Re: Car rental business - unusual tax questions
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2021, 06:49:15 AM »
@sockfight I don't have any input to your questions but would be interested in hearing your overall numbers and thoughts on this experiment?  Would you do it again?  Can you scale it?

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Re: Car rental business - unusual tax questions
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2021, 08:17:03 AM »
Right so back in early 2020 I had bought a compact car as an ex-fleet vehicle from Hertz. Spent about $13k after taxes. We'd just moved back to the States from overseas and needed a car in a hurry. Later in the year, there were some great deals on Chevy Bolts, and we'd really wanted an EV, so we got one of those. The dealer we bought the EV from gave us a lousy trade-in offer, so I shopped around to find a dealer who would buy the old car for a better price...best offer was around $12k, if I recall correctly. All of this was before the car shortage began. I was about to do the deal when I saw an ad for this rental program, and I thought what the hell, let's see what happens.

They promised a minimum of about $6k in revenue over the course of a year, provided insurance, and covered maintenance. My car still had a bit of a year left on its bumper to bumper warranty, so I wasn't concerned about a major repair (which would have been at my expense). I expected the car to be worth less after the year due to depreciation and wear-and-tear, especially if any accidents occurred. But my risk analysis suggested I would be unlikely to do worse than break even if things went poorly, and if things went well, I would come out ahead by a few thousand. Also, and this is important: I had zero emotional attachment to the car and zero dependance on it.

I earned about $5500 in the six months before the incident (much more than the minimums - rental car demand has been high generally). The incident turned out to be somebody vandalized the car so extensively it was beyond repair, even though the market value of the car had risen to almost $18,000 (I'll leave it to your imagination how bad the vandalism must have been). But the company and their commercial insurance were great, and I obviously got lucky that the payout was more than I had been about to sell the car for - in some sense it was ideal because I didn't have to deal with taking custody of the car back and trying to sell it down the road.

As for repeating the process and/or scaling, yes I would definitely do it again (only with another car I didn't mind losing). It was a mostly passive enterprise on my part. In fact, I began shopping around for a second car to put to work earlier in the year. But by then the car shortage had started, and here's where it did not work in my favor: I would have had to overpay for a used car now, and I figured it was likely prices would crash back down by the time it came to sell, on top of expected depreciation, erasing a lot of the potential profit. So I'll look into it again in the future when the market is normal again.
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Re: Car rental business - unusual tax questions
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2021, 06:33:46 AM »
How does this unusual situation - an asset that appreciated rather than depreciated - affect my taxes? Do I have to pay tax on the excess value? Does this get reported as a disposition of asset? Does the fact that it was not always in service to the business matter?

Second: Would the income this enterprise generated be considered passive income?

Thank you!

If you start with a $10K car and depreciate it for your business activities then actually get $18K when you "sell it" to the insurance company you'll pay taxes on the excess $8K as income.

I would consider owning and renting out a car similar to owning and renting out houses. I wouldn't call that truly passive income. I consider that running a small business.