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citizen24128

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2024 tax mistake + Roth IRA recharacterization
« on: April 14, 2025, 11:07:35 AM »
Hi all, I've made a mistake that affects my 2024 taxes. I think I know what to do to fix/handle my situation, but I'd be grateful if others are willing to take a look and comment on my plan.

My situation: My spouse and I divorced in early 2025. We lived together for part of the year in 2024. I made a Roth IRA contribution in 2024. I now plan to file my 2024 tax return as "married filing separately." (My former spouse has already filed their 2024 return, so it's not an option for us to do "married filing jointly" for 2024.)

I have just now become aware that I cannot make a Roth IRA contribution for 2024 in my situation (modified AGI is above $10,000 + lived together for part of 2024 + married filing separately). See https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/plan-participant-employee/amount-of-roth-ira-contributions-that-you-can-make-for-2024

So, since I've already made this mistake, here is what I think I should do to handle the situation correctly in the eyes of the IRS:

1) File for an extension on my 2024 tax return. Go ahead and pay what I estimate that I owe in federal and state taxes for 2024.

2) Recharacterize my 2024 Roth IRA contribution to be a traditional IRA contribution. I've read that this takes a few days, so that's why I'm assuming I need to file an extension on my taxes.

3) Once I have confirmation of the IRA recharacterization, file my 2024 tax return with info about my 2024 traditional IRA contribution.

Does this sound correct? Does anyone have any related comments for me before I embark on this plan? This is my first time filing a tax extension and also my first time recharacterizing an IRA contribution.

Thanks for taking the time to help a tax procrastinator!

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Re: 2024 tax mistake + Roth IRA recharacterization
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2025, 10:02:20 PM »
The recharacterization deadline is the filing deadline plus extensions.  So your assumption in step 2 is not accurate.

What you can do is go ahead and prepare and file the return as though you made the 2024 contribution to your traditional IRA in the first place.  Then just make sure the recharacterization happens before October 15th.

When you recharacterize, be sure to use that word with your IRA custodian.  They will want to move the contribution amount plus or minus the associated earnings or loss because that is the proper way to do it.  The IRA custodian should be able to calculate the correct amount.

If your income is on the lower side, see if your traditional IRA qualifies you for the Saver Credit on Form 8880.

You probably want to deduct the traditional IRA contribution on your 2024 tax return.  If not, then you'll have contribution basis in your traditional IRA that you'll need to track and prorate on Form 8606s for the rest of your life.  Not hard math, but it's a paperwork and tracking hassle.

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Re: 2024 tax mistake + Roth IRA recharacterization
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2025, 05:09:13 AM »
What you can do is go ahead and prepare and file the return as though you made the 2024 contribution to your traditional IRA in the first place.  Then just make sure the recharacterization happens before October 15th.

I don't know how necessary it is, but technically you're supposed to attach an explanation of the recharacterization according to the instructions for Form 8606, which would mean you'd need to do the recharacterization before filing.

Here's the statement formula I've used in the past:
"Taxpayer citizen24128 contributed $XXXX to a Roth IRA on xx/xx/2024 for the 2024 contribution year. On xx/xx/2025 all $XXXX of the contribution was recharacterized by transferring $YYYY.YY to a traditional IRA in a trustee-to-trustee transfer. The traditional IRA contribution of $XXXX  [was deducted on Form 1040, Schedule 1 OR was not deducted]."

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Re: 2024 tax mistake + Roth IRA recharacterization
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2025, 06:37:12 AM »
Thanks for taking the time to comment, @secondcor521 and @terran.

I don't qualify for the Saver Credit, but thanks for pointing that out so that I could check out the possibility.

Also, my understanding is that I cannot deduct any portion of my 2024 traditional IRA contribution (because my modified AGI is above $10,000 + lived together for part of 2024 + married filing separately). See https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/plan-participant-employee/2024-ira-contribution-and-deduction-limits-effect-of-modified-agi-on-deductible-contributions-if-you-are-covered-by-a-retirement-plan-at-work

secondcor521, does this affect your comment about tracking contribution basis for the rest of my life? (I'm not completely following you, there. I'm going to do some research based on your comment to try to understand. I welcome further information if you see this and have additional comments.)

Thanks again, I appreciate your help.

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Re: 2024 tax mistake + Roth IRA recharacterization
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2025, 08:32:42 AM »
You're correct, income over $10k and MFS means no deduction whether (as in the link you posted) or not you're covered by a workplace retirement plan (which surprised me).

Do you have any balance in any traditional IRA that you previously deducted, including a rollover IRA from an old employer plan? If so, would you current employer plan let you roll it into the plan? If you don't have any traditional IRAs (or only those that you didn't deduct) or can roll them into your 401(k)/etc then you could do the recharacterization then you could do a backdoor Roth.

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Re: 2024 tax mistake + Roth IRA recharacterization
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2025, 09:05:05 AM »
Thanks for taking the time to comment, @secondcor521 and @terran.

I don't qualify for the Saver Credit, but thanks for pointing that out so that I could check out the possibility.

Also, my understanding is that I cannot deduct any portion of my 2024 traditional IRA contribution (because my modified AGI is above $10,000 + lived together for part of 2024 + married filing separately). See https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/plan-participant-employee/2024-ira-contribution-and-deduction-limits-effect-of-modified-agi-on-deductible-contributions-if-you-are-covered-by-a-retirement-plan-at-work

secondcor521, does this affect your comment about tracking contribution basis for the rest of my life? (I'm not completely following you, there. I'm going to do some research based on your comment to try to understand. I welcome further information if you see this and have additional comments.)

Thanks again, I appreciate your help.

Good on you for checking to see if you actually qualify to take the deduction for the traditional IRA contribution.  It looks like you're right and it would not be deductible based on that link.

(Option 1) If you recharacterize to your traditional IRA as you currently plan, then yes, my comment would apply.  The idea is that most of the time, traditional IRA contributions are deducted from income, so that later when you withdraw from the IRA, the money is taxed at that time.  If you make a contribution but don't deduct it, then you've already paid income tax on those dollars, so they don't need to be taxed later upon withdrawal.

If you have a mix of deductible and non-deductible contributions to a traditional IRA, then when you withdraw, it's done on a pro rata basis - you get a portion of your deductible dollars back and a portion of your non-deductible dollars back.  Because of the way the math works, you need to keep track of a couple of figures to determine the pro rata amounts, and at least one of those carries forward from year to year.

These calculations are done on Form 8606 Part I.

You have two other options to avoid this hassle.  Also, note that some people don't find it much of a hassle at all, and if you can correctly answer the questions in a tax program about what you did (which I think is difficult, but some people don't), then the tax program can do the math for you.  Oh, don't ever switch tax programs, or if you do be sure to type in your Form 8606 information from your old tax program.

Option 2:  Backdoor Roth, as terran mentions above.  A mildly tricky maneuver to do precisely right, but I think a lot of people do their best with the mechanics and the paperwork and I've never heard of the IRS being particularly tough on enforcing the rules in these areas.

Option 3:  Just distribute the Roth IRA contribution back to yourself (plus / minus earnings) and treat it as though you never made a contribution in the first place.  If you had earnings, those would be taxed but I don't think there is a 10% penalty on them anymore.  I am not up on the details here but perhaps terran is.

Personally I would (and did) do option 3 to avoid the negatives (for me) of option 1 and option 2.  But everyone has their own preferences.

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Re: 2024 tax mistake + Roth IRA recharacterization
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2025, 09:04:44 AM »
Thanks, all. I wound up filing an extension so that I can think about this a little bit more.

I don't think I'm up to the "mildly tricky" challenge of the backdoor Roth option, so I think I'm choosing between secondcor521's options 1 and 3.

I'm leaning towards option 1. It feels wrong to me to skip the chance to max out my 2024 IRA, so if my only option is the traditional IRA, then I think that's what I will do. I'm going to read a bit more first to make sure I understand what I'm getting into with tracking on Form 8606.

Also, this conversation is making me realize that I contributed to a traditional IRA a few years ago and only deducted a portion of the contribution (because of higher income that year). I have NOT been tracking this on Form 8606 when I've filed taxes since then. I'll need to do some research to figure out how to handle that situation.

Thanks again, @secondcor521 and @terran. I appreciate the conversation.

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Re: 2024 tax mistake + Roth IRA recharacterization
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2025, 10:19:47 AM »
Also, this conversation is making me realize that I contributed to a traditional IRA a few years ago and only deducted a portion of the contribution (because of higher income that year). I have NOT been tracking this on Form 8606 when I've filed taxes since then. I'll need to do some research to figure out how to handle that situation.

The most proper answer is for you to prepare and file a Form 8606 for the applicable tax year.  You will need to fill in parts of Part I.

Form 8606 can be filed standalone - you don't need to file an amended return (at least I don't think you do; some would disagree).

Technically there might be a penalty for late filing of the 8606 (normally it would be filed with the return in the first place), but the IRS is apparently very lax about the penalty and it probably won't be applied to you.

A slightly less fiddly and less proper approach would be to make a note of it in your tax records, and just include that information the first time you file 8606 in the future.

A third option is to forget about that past contribution's non-deductible contribution.  You'll pay somewhat higher taxes because you'd be paying taxes on the way in and on the way out.

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Re: 2024 tax mistake + Roth IRA recharacterization
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2025, 12:03:51 PM »
Thanks for helping me understand my options, @secondcor521 !