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nereo

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Re: Coffee
« Reply #50 on: October 30, 2020, 07:53:04 AM »
What I find interesting about coffee (and caffeine in particular) is that we've been searching for some long-term, horrible health effects of ingesting 100-300mg+ of caffeine a day, and we've been doing this for 70+ years, and so far every potential link is tentative and correlative at best.

Even among individuals who drink 3+ cups of coffee a day for decades, it's been hard to identify a long-term health risk that isn't present in similar levels among similar, non-caffeine drinking counterparts.

I'm not saying caffeine consumption is good for you per se... just that negative effects - if they exist - seem far less important than, say, mild exercise or reducing sugar consumption.

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Re: Coffee
« Reply #51 on: October 30, 2020, 08:43:33 AM »
What I find interesting about coffee (and caffeine in particular) is that we've been searching for some long-term, horrible health effects of ingesting 100-300mg+ of caffeine a day, and we've been doing this for 70+ years, and so far every potential link is tentative and correlative at best.

Even among individuals who drink 3+ cups of coffee a day for decades, it's been hard to identify a long-term health risk that isn't present in similar levels among similar, non-caffeine drinking counterparts.

I'm not saying caffeine consumption is good for you per se... just that negative effects - if they exist - seem far less important than, say, mild exercise or reducing sugar consumption.

The only well supported risk I know of is with respect to bone density. With a sedentary population, this, IMO, is a fairly big deal. But yeah, 100-300mg is a pretty reasonable amount of caffeine, but if someone is drinking Starbucks coffee, that's one coffee, not three.

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Re: Coffee
« Reply #52 on: October 30, 2020, 09:05:01 AM »
Tangentially, I found a workaround for getting Starbucks without paying Starbucks prices. I just use Starbucks gift cards I get for free for various things to buy bags of their whole coffee beans and then I grind them and brew them at home. It's the same thing as what you get in one of their shops but you don't have to wait in line or pay over $2/cup for it. Of course, that wouldn't help the people who just go to Starbucks to buy $5 coffee-flavored milkshakes.

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Re: Coffee
« Reply #53 on: October 30, 2020, 10:13:03 AM »
What's wrong with sludge?  It rinses right out of the cup.

I use a French press, and I don't mind the sludge. DH hates it though.

ETA, I forgot to ask, @HMman are you asking to have your coffee ground for a French press? Because the grind is supposed to be much bigger than for drip coffee because the water spends so much time in contact with the coffee. It should almost be small chunks instead of powdery grounds. It makes a huge difference in the sludge amount as well.

Yes, the beans are ground for a French press. I also hate the sludge, and the little bit I get drives me nuts - I nurse my cup of coffee for a while, so it causes the last third or so to taste bitter and overbrewed. It's not a huge deal, but it bugs me enough that I'd like to get rid of it.

@nobody and @WhiteTrashCash I'm surprised to hear the stainless steel filters work as well as the paper ones, so I'll have to look in to that. Thanks!

You can fix the sludge and the bitterness by adding a step. I've found the french press is best when after brewing you transfer everything to an insulated carafe or teapot. Coffee shouldn't sit on the grind past 4-5min. It avoids the second cup tasting bitter and the process of pouring into another vessel and helps settle the sludge out. I'm wondering about your grind too. With a decent burr grinder your french press you shouldn't get much sludge.