sharing my friends badassity

[clarkfan1979]

One of my friends works for a large hotel chain and they grow organic hydroponic vegetables for their expensive hotel restaurant. They have worked there for about 3 years. About 18 months ago they had a child. For the past 12 months she has been asking if she can work 4 days/week instead of 5 days/week, but still want to maintain full benefits.

The employer had repeatedly said "no", so my friend quit about one month ago. After about two weeks the employer started calling her back asking her questions. I guess the replacement wasn't very good. Then just recently they reposted her job at 4 days/week and encouraged her to apply.

[Dixie_Amazon]

I hope it works out for her.

[Dicey]

Wait, they posted it publicly and then called her? They didn't just offer it to her specifically? That would piss me off.

[terran]

Wait, they posted it publicly and then called her? They didn't just offer it to her specifically? That would piss me off.

That kind of thing is a pretty common requirement for large employers. Supposed to stop nepotism I think, although the job may be tailor made for an internal or in this case otherwise known candidate.

[Dicey]

Wait, they posted it publicly and then called her? They didn't just offer it to her specifically? That would piss me off.

That kind of thing is a pretty common requirement for large employers. Supposed to stop nepotism I think, although the job may be tailor made for an internal or in this case otherwise known candidate.

Since you aren't the OP, and we don't know how large the company in question is, I say at the very least they should have contacted her first. Let's ping @clarkfan1979 for more details.

[clarkfan1979]

My friend is coming over today for football, so I might be able to get more information today. From what I know so far, she was part of a union. Due to union regulations, the former employer claims that they are not allowed to change the details of a position while it is occupied. However, they can change the details of a position while it is unoccupied.

After she quit it seems like they tried to get someone internal to do her old job. Based on what I know right now it has been a failure. After about 2 weeks they started calling her for advice on how to do her old job.

About 5 days ago they also re-posted her job at 4 days/week and told her to apply. I think they are required to interview other candidates, but it's her job. I think she goes back to work officially in about 2 weeks.

My overall point is that I am very proud of my friend for sticking up for herself. She called their bluff and she won. In reference to 'The Financial Samurai" employers need employees just as much as employees need employers. The economy is doing well. If you are a skilled employee, know your value and leverage it into something that you desire.

[Dicey]

Thanks for the response. Fingers crossed that your friend is richly rewarded for taking a stand.

[frugalnacho]

Wait, they posted it publicly and then called her? They didn't just offer it to her specifically? That would piss me off.

That kind of thing is a pretty common requirement for large employers. Supposed to stop nepotism I think, although the job may be tailor made for an internal or in this case otherwise known candidate.

Since you aren't the OP, and we don't know how large the company in question is, I say at the very least they should have contacted her first. Let's ping @clarkfan1979 for more details.

I think what terran is getting at is that they are not allowed to do what you say.  A lot of organizations have weird rules that don't make sense.  It's a perfectly reasonable and logical thing to just call that person back and offer the job, but that may be specifically prohibited and the organization may be required to post the job publicly and interview a certain number of candidates.  My last organization had such rules in place.  We would have a resume in hand, and know we want to hire this person, but the company was required to post it on 2 different job hunting websites, gather a certain number of resumes and interview candidates, and wait for many many weeks before ultimately offering the job to the person they knew they wanted to hire 6 weeks ago.  It was insane and asinine, but that's larger organizations for ya.   

[terran]

Wait, they posted it publicly and then called her? They didn't just offer it to her specifically? That would piss me off.

That kind of thing is a pretty common requirement for large employers. Supposed to stop nepotism I think, although the job may be tailor made for an internal or in this case otherwise known candidate.

Since you aren't the OP, and we don't know how large the company in question is, I say at the very least they should have contacted her first. Let's ping @clarkfan1979 for more details.

You're right, I don't know all the specifics of this particular case. My point, as @frugalnacho surmised, is simply that in SOME cases, usually at larger employers, it MAY not be up to the person responsible for hiring to hire whoever they want without first going through a particular process.

[Dicey]

Wait, they posted it publicly and then called her? They didn't just offer it to her specifically? That would piss me off.

That kind of thing is a pretty common requirement for large employers. Supposed to stop nepotism I think, although the job may be tailor made for an internal or in this case otherwise known candidate.

Since you aren't the OP, and we don't know how large the company in question is, I say at the very least they should have contacted her first. Let's ping @clarkfan1979 for more details.

You're right, I don't know all the specifics of this particular case. My point, as @frugalnacho surmised, is simply that in SOME cases, usually at larger employers, it MAY not be up to the person responsible for hiring to hire whoever they want without first going through a particular process.

Reason #9,687 to race to FIRE.

[MM_MG]

Great story...hope it works out for the friend.   But still trying to figure out the relevance of the growing of "organic hydroponic vegetables" to the story.  Feel like I need some closure here. 

[Brother Esau]

Wait, they posted it publicly and then called her? They didn't just offer it to her specifically? That would piss me off.

That kind of thing is a pretty common requirement for large employers. Supposed to stop nepotism I think, although the job may be tailor made for an internal or in this case otherwise known candidate.

Since you aren't the OP, and we don't know how large the company in question is, I say at the very least they should have contacted her first. Let's ping @clarkfan1979 for more details.

I think what terran is getting at is that they are not allowed to do what you say.  A lot of organizations have weird rules that don't make sense.  It's a perfectly reasonable and logical thing to just call that person back and offer the job, but that may be specifically prohibited and the organization may be required to post the job publicly and interview a certain number of candidates.  My last organization had such rules in place.  We would have a resume in hand, and know we want to hire this person, but the company was required to post it on 2 different job hunting websites, gather a certain number of resumes and interview candidates, and wait for many many weeks before ultimately offering the job to the person they knew they wanted to hire 6 weeks ago.  It was insane and asinine, but that's larger organizations for ya.

Yep, I have a union job. Many requirements and hoops to jump through when filling a vacant position.

[clarkfan1979]

Great story...hope it works out for the friend.   But still trying to figure out the relevance of the growing of "organic hydroponic vegetables" to the story.  Feel like I need some closure here.

She grows vegetables for a 5-star hotel restaurant. She has undergrad degree in Biology. It is a skilled position. When the job is done correct, the vegetables look great. When done incorrectly, the vegetables are good enough to eat at home, but not good enough to serve at a 5-star restaurant. They underestimated her value because she ended up being very difficult to replace.

She is now back at work and happier than ever because she is now working her 4 days/week schedule with full benefits. My main point is that the only way this was possible was because she had the badassity to quit.

[Blindsquirrel]

   Mass respect for her badassity!