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Re: Laser operation for better vision
« Reply #50 on: September 27, 2019, 04:33:49 AM »
Ciliary muscles control the shape of the lens. So shaving off part of the lens is a ridiculous procedure. I know that some people rave about their results but there are many with complications.  Back in the early 1900s Dr Bates proved that to be true. Look on Wiki. It is known as accommodation. He proved that poor vision is a state of mind. He wrote a book. Perfect Vision Without Glasses. There are also teachers of the Bates’ method. Good reading!

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« Reply #51 on: September 27, 2019, 04:38:36 AM »
This is the reason that some people have to revert to wearing glasses again. Their eyes accommodate to the surgery. Oddly it seems that the mind wants to have blurry vision for whatever reason. Hiding?  In any event if you can change your state of mind you can change your vision.

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« Reply #52 on: September 27, 2019, 04:42:07 AM »
It is also my opinion that the entire contact lens industry is a huge scam. And the doctors are in on it because they all have training in what a ciliary muscle is and does.

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« Reply #53 on: October 20, 2019, 07:44:14 AM »

-----------------------------------------UPDATE----------------------------------

Since a few days, I have had evaluations from 2 different optometric clinics specialized in ocular surgeries.

Because of my high level of myopie (-9,5) and my age (49) (in addition to astigmatism), it appeared clearly  that my best option is not with a traditional laser surgery, but with an intraocular surgery to replace my natural lens with new lens (multifocales, meaning I will see clearly close and far).  The name of the procedure is : Phacorefractive Surgery. This is way more expensive than the traditional « Lazik » as some persons previously indicated in this post.

I received two « quotes » (I put here the price for the 2 eyes); one from Dr Michel Pop clinic (Montreal, Quebec, Canada) : 6000$ CAD and the second from Iris Clinic : 8760$ CAD (Laval, Quebec, Canada.

I have planned to take my final decision this week-end, (October 20-21, 2019). 

Apart from the quite important difference in price, the two clinics have a very distinctive approach.  Not only for the surgery itself, but also at the human level.

Example of difference for the surgery : Iris talked to me about  advanced imaging techniques (Verion System) to guide the surgeon through some steps and laser-assisted surgery (Catalys) that allows for the automation of some steps (meaning more precision than human intervention alone and less time for the human being « into » the eye, so less risk).

At the human level, I had simple and warm interactions at the Iris Clinic (receptionists, optician and optometrist, which made me feel that I was with « specialists humans » and not just with specialists , difficult to explain) compared to the general feeling at the clinic Michel Pop, where people are still welcoming, polite and helpful, but where we feel a kind of concern for efficiency a little exaggerated that puts a bit of a « cold » in the communication (not sure if we can say that in English, sorry if it is not the case). Moreover, the big boss, Dr. Pop took all the time necessary to answer my many questions. So a really different feeling between the two clinics, but not to the point of feeling like "a number" as some people reported to me to have felt. It seems to me that the human level is important in this kind of service, especially if there are postoperative complications.

The most common minor complications are: dry eye, bright halos in the evening, etc. There are of course also serious and even very serious potential risks, as in any surgery. For my part, I have never had surgery, so I must say that it makes me pretty nervous. But with regard to minimal risks, I am particularly concerned about the issue of dry eye: I would find it really disabling to have to use drops (artificial tears) for the rest of my life. And I know that some of these artificial tears are very expensive ... which would be counterproductive because one of my motives for doing this surgery is to eliminate the costs associated with buying contact lenses ...

Anyway, thank you again everybody for your input and recommendations.  I have read all of them very carefully and that helped me a great deal in my reflection.

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« Reply #54 on: October 20, 2019, 08:35:28 AM »
Thank you for the update!

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« Reply #55 on: October 20, 2019, 09:56:45 AM »
Good luck with your choice.

I had dry eyes after my lasik surgery. It was bad for a few months but got progressively better. Eyes drops help in the moment but I get more help out of a regular maintenance regime. Fish oil capsules twice a day make a big difference. The prescription drops Restasis also helps the eye produce more tears. It takes a good month or two to really see the results kick in so be patient.

The other thing u had done when I was struggling with dry eyes (not related to eye surgery) was to have punctum plugs inserted. This prevents tears from draining out of the eyes. Quick and painless and lasts forever.

Hopefully you won’t need all of this but just so you know that there are better ways of handling dry eyes than just drops.

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« Reply #56 on: October 20, 2019, 09:58:04 AM »
One last thought: we blink less frequently when staring at screens, so I set up a humidifier on my desk at work for a couple of months after surgery. That made a difference in the situation that bothered me the most.

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« Reply #57 on: October 20, 2019, 12:37:00 PM »

-----------------------------------------UPDATE----------------------------------

Since a few days, I have had evaluations from 2 different optometric clinics specialized in ocular surgeries.

Because of my high level of myopie (-9,5) and my age (49) (in addition to astigmatism), it appeared clearly  that my best option is not with a traditional laser surgery, but with an intraocular surgery to replace my natural lens with new lens (multifocales, meaning I will see clearly close and far).  The name of the procedure is : Phacorefractive Surgery. This is way more expensive than the traditional « Lazik » as some persons previously indicated in this post.

I received two « quotes » (I put here the price for the 2 eyes); one from Dr Michel Pop clinic (Montreal, Quebec, Canada) : 6000$ CAD and the second from Iris Clinic : 8760$ CAD (Laval, Quebec, Canada.

I have planned to take my final decision this week-end, (October 20-21, 2019). 

Apart from the quite important difference in price, the two clinics have a very distinctive approach.  Not only for the surgery itself, but also at the human level.

Example of difference for the surgery : Iris talked to me about  advanced imaging techniques (Verion System) to guide the surgeon through some steps and laser-assisted surgery (Catalys) that allows for the automation of some steps (meaning more precision than human intervention alone and less time for the human being « into » the eye, so less risk).

At the human level, I had simple and warm interactions at the Iris Clinic (receptionists, optician and optometrist, which made me feel that I was with « specialists humans » and not just with specialists , difficult to explain) compared to the general feeling at the clinic Michel Pop, where people are still welcoming, polite and helpful, but where we feel a kind of concern for efficiency a little exaggerated that puts a bit of a « cold » in the communication (not sure if we can say that in English, sorry if it is not the case). Moreover, the big boss, Dr. Pop took all the time necessary to answer my many questions. So a really different feeling between the two clinics, but not to the point of feeling like "a number" as some people reported to me to have felt. It seems to me that the human level is important in this kind of service, especially if there are postoperative complications.

The most common minor complications are: dry eye, bright halos in the evening, etc. There are of course also serious and even very serious potential risks, as in any surgery. For my part, I have never had surgery, so I must say that it makes me pretty nervous. But with regard to minimal risks, I am particularly concerned about the issue of dry eye: I would find it really disabling to have to use drops (artificial tears) for the rest of my life. And I know that some of these artificial tears are very expensive ... which would be counterproductive because one of my motives for doing this surgery is to eliminate the costs associated with buying contact lenses ...

Anyway, thank you again everybody for your input and recommendations.  I have read all of them very carefully and that helped me a great deal in my reflection.


Yep, this is exactly what I had a year ago. And the price was comparable.

I was pretty nervous about it. I considered not going through with it. But a year later, I am absolutely thrilled and so happy I did.

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« Reply #58 on: December 21, 2019, 09:49:17 AM »
-----------------------------------------(FINAL I GUESS) UPDATE----------------------------------

Hi all, so I had the intraocular surgery at the end of October.  It was probably the weirdest experience of my life (and I had quite a few, believe me!).

Everything went super well (but again, soooo strange). 

Less than 24 hours later, my vision was super excellent.  After less than a month, the need for artifical tears was over and the weird halos effect at night was way way less disturbing than expected.

Final words: probably the best investment ever.

P.S.  After posting this message, I realized that I forgot to say that my final choice went to the Clinique Michel Pop (Montreal, Canada) where the operation was 6000$ CDN.  Also, I should have added that I have chosen to have my natural lenses replaced by multifocal lens, so not only I won't have to wear contact lenses or glasses  for distant vision anymore, but I will never have to wear glasses for short sight (it is the same operation than the one utilized for people with cataracts, not the "simple" Lasik operation).

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« Reply #59 on: December 21, 2019, 01:31:22 PM »
Yay!!

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« Reply #60 on: December 21, 2019, 01:45:34 PM »
That’s awesome! It’s amazing, right?

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« Reply #61 on: December 21, 2019, 03:03:41 PM »
Awesome, that was my experience also.  Interestingly, I was at a meeting last Friday and people were dogging it and talked a guy out of it.  So much misinformation and anecdotal stories out there.  Yes, I may need readers when I get older, but I’ve been able to enjoy sports and good vision without glasses and contacts for over 15 years already!  Worth every penny and a tiny bit of discomfort!

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« Reply #62 on: December 21, 2019, 04:05:51 PM »
Awesome, that was my experience also.  Interestingly, I was at a meeting last Friday and people were dogging it and talked a guy out of it.  So much misinformation and anecdotal stories out there.  Yes, I may need readers when I get older, but I’ve been able to enjoy sports and good vision without glasses and contacts for over 15 years already!  Worth every penny and a tiny bit of discomfort!

I was pretty badly short-sighted, had LASIK about 8-10 years ago (I'm now 44) and it was a fantastic investment, although I'm now getting a bit short-sighted again (ie I struggle with very small print). Far-sight is still fantastic and will stay so, so even if I need to go back to glasses at last they won't be varifocals. And screen work and reading on the Kindle is fine - I just have issues with the smaller print in some paperbacks and stuff like small print on packages. Happily work around that.

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« Reply #63 on: December 21, 2019, 05:03:08 PM »
If we are going to need readers as we get older then getting lasik or not will not change that fate. So why not enjoy great vision for as long as possible? Clearly there is a co$t and that may not be attainable or worth it to everyone, but I think the almost universal opinion around here is that it is worth the money. I am so pleased I did it, even if it was scary.

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« Reply #64 on: December 21, 2019, 06:38:54 PM »
If we are going to need readers as we get older then getting lasik or not will not change that fate. So why not enjoy great vision for as long as possible? Clearly there is a co$t and that may not be attainable or worth it to everyone, but I think the almost universal opinion around here is that it is worth the money. I am so pleased I did it, even if it was scary.

I got Lasik 20+ years ago and just started using readers this year. I can function without them, but it's a lot more comfortable for extended screen time sessions (like, say - most of my job...) to have them.

Totally worth it.

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« Reply #65 on: December 22, 2019, 05:45:30 AM »
If we are going to need readers as we get older then getting lasik or not will not change that fate. So why not enjoy great vision for as long as possible? Clearly there is a co$t and that may not be attainable or worth it to everyone, but I think the almost universal opinion around here is that it is worth the money. I am so pleased I did it, even if it was scary.

I was wearing contacts daily when I had it done, so I came out way ahead in terms of cost. I despised glasses.

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« Reply #66 on: December 22, 2019, 08:28:53 AM »
I despise glasses also. I didn’t care if I came out ahead or behind on the $. This was a quality of life decision.

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« Reply #67 on: December 22, 2019, 07:34:31 PM »
So, can anyone give more info about the surgery? Are you staring at a knife/laser coming at your eyeball?  Like “don’t move, watch this thing cut your eye, good luck!”

Or please tell me it’s better than this. 


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Kind of. Not really.

It takes only a few minutes and by the time you actually "see" the laser, it's super blurry. The only unsettling part is the smell.

The "OMG, I thought my eyesight was bad before, after they sliced a flap off the front of my eye I'm fucking blind and I hope I'm keeping my eye aimed at the laser like they said, but it's spread over half my field of view, OMG I smell my own flesh cooking! Vaporized eyeball up my nose! Erg! EW! Ick! Oh, good. He's putting the flap back. Now he's squeegeeing my eyeball for 3 minutes. That's unsettling, but not nearly as bad. I hope this flap fuses back into place properly...."

So, I asked to have someone hold my hand for the second one. Because after that, you have to do it again.

They give you a happy drug.  Can't remember what it was, valium?  Be sure to ask for a second.  I did.  They could've cut my arm off and I would have been at peace with it.   

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« Reply #68 on: January 02, 2020, 04:49:00 PM »

-----------------------------------------UPDATE----------------------------------

Since a few days, I have had evaluations from 2 different optometric clinics specialized in ocular surgeries.

Because of my high level of myopie (-9,5) and my age (49) (in addition to astigmatism), it appeared clearly  that my best option is not with a traditional laser surgery, but with an intraocular surgery to replace my natural lens with new lens (multifocales, meaning I will see clearly close and far).  The name of the procedure is : Phacorefractive Surgery. This is way more expensive than the traditional « Lazik » as some persons previously indicated in this post.

I received two « quotes » (I put here the price for the 2 eyes); one from Dr Michel Pop clinic (Montreal, Quebec, Canada) : 6000$ CAD and the second from Iris Clinic : 8760$ CAD (Laval, Quebec, Canada.

I have planned to take my final decision this week-end, (October 20-21, 2019). 

Apart from the quite important difference in price, the two clinics have a very distinctive approach.  Not only for the surgery itself, but also at the human level.

Example of difference for the surgery : Iris talked to me about  advanced imaging techniques (Verion System) to guide the surgeon through some steps and laser-assisted surgery (Catalys) that allows for the automation of some steps (meaning more precision than human intervention alone and less time for the human being « into » the eye, so less risk).

At the human level, I had simple and warm interactions at the Iris Clinic (receptionists, optician and optometrist, which made me feel that I was with « specialists humans » and not just with specialists , difficult to explain) compared to the general feeling at the clinic Michel Pop, where people are still welcoming, polite and helpful, but where we feel a kind of concern for efficiency a little exaggerated that puts a bit of a « cold » in the communication (not sure if we can say that in English, sorry if it is not the case). Moreover, the big boss, Dr. Pop took all the time necessary to answer my many questions. So a really different feeling between the two clinics, but not to the point of feeling like "a number" as some people reported to me to have felt. It seems to me that the human level is important in this kind of service, especially if there are postoperative complications.

The most common minor complications are: dry eye, bright halos in the evening, etc. There are of course also serious and even very serious potential risks, as in any surgery. For my part, I have never had surgery, so I must say that it makes me pretty nervous. But with regard to minimal risks, I am particularly concerned about the issue of dry eye: I would find it really disabling to have to use drops (artificial tears) for the rest of my life. And I know that some of these artificial tears are very expensive ... which would be counterproductive because one of my motives for doing this surgery is to eliminate the costs associated with buying contact lenses ...

Anyway, thank you again everybody for your input and recommendations.  I have read all of them very carefully and that helped me a great deal in my reflection.


Yep, this is exactly what I had a year ago. And the price was comparable.

I was pretty nervous about it. I considered not going through with it. But a year later, I am absolutely thrilled and so happy I did.

My eyes were -14.5 and near -16 - - considerably worse than yours and they kept getting worse into my sixties. Lasik is not really an option for people like me.
My eye doctor told me I was the perfect candidate for this type of surgery, I developed cataracts which meant Medicare would pay for that part of the surgery, but at first, the cataracts weren't bad enough for Medicare to approve payment. So my surgery was delayed by one year - which turned out to be a blessing in disguise:).

Like you, I was super nervous but four years later I'm still thrilled with the results.

I laughed out loud when they told me I might have to wear glasses and my vision might "only" be -2.5.
Ha - I wasn't even able to get any contacts to correct my vision any longer - they did not exist and the glasses I wore were like the bottom of a Coke bottle - super thick and heavy (couldn't do plastic since glass still gives you sharper vision) pressing a groove into my nose - yuck! At my vision strength, every 5% improvement was a huge help so my glasses were always expensive, like $1K to $1200. I got them made on vacation in Germany since I couldn't get some of the Zeiss glasses in the US - the precision machinery and expertise to be had in Germany was simply better. 

I'm still reaching for my glasses in the morning out of habit - I'm 70 and wore glasses since the age of nine.
It's positively thrilling to have good eyesight - I can even read and work on the computer without glasses - I was over the moon.

Best of all, I don't wear any glasses, except for driving to enhance my distance vision, although I could get away with not wearing any glasses and have on occasion when I forgot to wear them even though I keep a spare pair in the car - since it is so minimal. Something like -1.75. That is nothing compared to what I dealt with before.

I further lucked out in that the FDA had just approved a "new" lens a month before my surgery which had already been used in Europe with great results for two years. They were exactly what I wanted. The doctors had just finished training in working with the new lenses two weeks before:).

No major dry eye issues either, although sometimes I use preservative-free eye drops to help with mild dry eye as needed. I am sensitive to the sun, but I always was anyway, it's just that now - living in Florida I wear cool sunglasses:).
Who would have thought there would come a day when I'd finally be free of heavy glasses and the threat of blindness - I don't think I could have even passed the eye test for my driver's license anymore.

Of course - one little hiccup happened come surgery time:) - all the machines went down right after I'd already received prep and sedation! So the doctor did my first eye manually himself. He said he actually preferred that and I was fine with it although I had to sign extra paperwork saying I was OK with it. By the next eye surgery weeks later, all the laser machinery was back up but I have to say I felt really beat up and looked it too after the machine surgery. The doctor was way better:).

I had it done at St. Lukes Clinic in Tarpon Springs, FL and I can only say good things about everything from doctors to treatment to attention - they listened to me and explained all my various lens options very well - most of all they answered all the questions I had - patiently. They took my concerns seriously and I knew exactly what to expect.
I simply do not need to wear glasses in my everyday activities, not even for reading, but I do when driving, being an old lady and all, my reflexes are probably not as they used to be so I prefer crystal clear vision and who knows if that -1.75 may make the difference in seeing a danger on time.

Anyway - just thought to add my experiences in case they may prove helpful to someone else - and yes, there are tons of people from Canada and the US that come to St. Lukes for surgery, they are as good as it gets!

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« Reply #69 on: January 03, 2020, 03:56:36 PM »

-----------------------------------------UPDATE----------------------------------

Since a few days, I have had evaluations from 2 different optometric clinics specialized in ocular surgeries.

Because of my high level of myopie (-9,5) and my age (49) (in addition to astigmatism), it appeared clearly  that my best option is not with a traditional laser surgery, but with an intraocular surgery to replace my natural lens with new lens (multifocales, meaning I will see clearly close and far).  The name of the procedure is : Phacorefractive Surgery. This is way more expensive than the traditional « Lazik » as some persons previously indicated in this post.

I received two « quotes » (I put here the price for the 2 eyes); one from Dr Michel Pop clinic (Montreal, Quebec, Canada) : 6000$ CAD and the second from Iris Clinic : 8760$ CAD (Laval, Quebec, Canada.

I have planned to take my final decision this week-end, (October 20-21, 2019). 

Apart from the quite important difference in price, the two clinics have a very distinctive approach.  Not only for the surgery itself, but also at the human level.

Example of difference for the surgery : Iris talked to me about  advanced imaging techniques (Verion System) to guide the surgeon through some steps and laser-assisted surgery (Catalys) that allows for the automation of some steps (meaning more precision than human intervention alone and less time for the human being « into » the eye, so less risk).

At the human level, I had simple and warm interactions at the Iris Clinic (receptionists, optician and optometrist, which made me feel that I was with « specialists humans » and not just with specialists , difficult to explain) compared to the general feeling at the clinic Michel Pop, where people are still welcoming, polite and helpful, but where we feel a kind of concern for efficiency a little exaggerated that puts a bit of a « cold » in the communication (not sure if we can say that in English, sorry if it is not the case). Moreover, the big boss, Dr. Pop took all the time necessary to answer my many questions. So a really different feeling between the two clinics, but not to the point of feeling like "a number" as some people reported to me to have felt. It seems to me that the human level is important in this kind of service, especially if there are postoperative complications.

The most common minor complications are: dry eye, bright halos in the evening, etc. There are of course also serious and even very serious potential risks, as in any surgery. For my part, I have never had surgery, so I must say that it makes me pretty nervous. But with regard to minimal risks, I am particularly concerned about the issue of dry eye: I would find it really disabling to have to use drops (artificial tears) for the rest of my life. And I know that some of these artificial tears are very expensive ... which would be counterproductive because one of my motives for doing this surgery is to eliminate the costs associated with buying contact lenses ...

Anyway, thank you again everybody for your input and recommendations.  I have read all of them very carefully and that helped me a great deal in my reflection.


Yep, this is exactly what I had a year ago. And the price was comparable.

I was pretty nervous about it. I considered not going through with it. But a year later, I am absolutely thrilled and so happy I did.

My eyes were -14.5 and near -16 - - considerably worse than yours and they kept getting worse into my sixties. Lasik is not really an option for people like me.
My eye doctor told me I was the perfect candidate for this type of surgery, I developed cataracts which meant Medicare would pay for that part of the surgery, but at first, the cataracts weren't bad enough for Medicare to approve payment. So my surgery was delayed by one year - which turned out to be a blessing in disguise:).

Like you, I was super nervous but four years later I'm still thrilled with the results.

I laughed out loud when they told me I might have to wear glasses and my vision might "only" be -2.5.
Ha - I wasn't even able to get any contacts to correct my vision any longer - they did not exist and the glasses I wore were like the bottom of a Coke bottle - super thick and heavy (couldn't do plastic since glass still gives you sharper vision) pressing a groove into my nose - yuck! At my vision strength, every 5% improvement was a huge help so my glasses were always expensive, like $1K to $1200. I got them made on vacation in Germany since I couldn't get some of the Zeiss glasses in the US - the precision machinery and expertise to be had in Germany was simply better. 

I'm still reaching for my glasses in the morning out of habit - I'm 70 and wore glasses since the age of nine.
It's positively thrilling to have good eyesight - I can even read and work on the computer without glasses - I was over the moon.

Best of all, I don't wear any glasses, except for driving to enhance my distance vision, although I could get away with not wearing any glasses and have on occasion when I forgot to wear them even though I keep a spare pair in the car - since it is so minimal. Something like -1.75. That is nothing compared to what I dealt with before.

I further lucked out in that the FDA had just approved a "new" lens a month before my surgery which had already been used in Europe with great results for two years. They were exactly what I wanted. The doctors had just finished training in working with the new lenses two weeks before:).

No major dry eye issues either, although sometimes I use preservative-free eye drops to help with mild dry eye as needed. I am sensitive to the sun, but I always was anyway, it's just that now - living in Florida I wear cool sunglasses:).
Who would have thought there would come a day when I'd finally be free of heavy glasses and the threat of blindness - I don't think I could have even passed the eye test for my driver's license anymore.

Of course - one little hiccup happened come surgery time:) - all the machines went down right after I'd already received prep and sedation! So the doctor did my first eye manually himself. He said he actually preferred that and I was fine with it although I had to sign extra paperwork saying I was OK with it. By the next eye surgery weeks later, all the laser machinery was back up but I have to say I felt really beat up and looked it too after the machine surgery. The doctor was way better:).

I had it done at St. Lukes Clinic in Tarpon Springs, FL and I can only say good things about everything from doctors to treatment to attention - they listened to me and explained all my various lens options very well - most of all they answered all the questions I had - patiently. They took my concerns seriously and I knew exactly what to expect.
I simply do not need to wear glasses in my everyday activities, not even for reading, but I do when driving, being an old lady and all, my reflexes are probably not as they used to be so I prefer crystal clear vision and who knows if that -1.75 may make the difference in seeing a danger on time.

Anyway - just thought to add my experiences in case they may prove helpful to someone else - and yes, there are tons of people from Canada and the US that come to St. Lukes for surgery, they are as good as it gets!

That is so awesome. My vision wasn't as bad as yours, but at 51, it was heading there. I've had glasses since I was 6.

I didn't have any existing cataracts so I had to pay for the whole damn thing myself, but my experience otherwise was pretty similar to yours. My doctor also told me I might need glasses and my vision might not get to 2020. I also laughed.

Now, a year and a half later, I don't use glasses at all to read. I do use them for watching movies at the theater or home, and to drive, but that's not because it's necessary. It's because wearing distance glasses in those situations brings my far distance from basically what it used to be with my contacts in, to "WOW, I STILL cannot believe I can see all that detail!!!! Why didn't anyone tell me!?!???!!"

I feel like I'm never going to get used to how freaking great it is!

Also, I even splurged and got myself some Warby Parker prescription sunglasses, so I can drive with my glasses on when it's sunny. OH, the luxury!!!! And also, this is the first time in my entire life where I have glasses that actually look good on me! As I'm sure you've had the same experience, shopping for glasses was depressing as hell before, because no matter how the framed looked when you tried them on in the shop, putting the lenses in destroyed that completely.

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Re: Laser operation for better vision
« Reply #70 on: January 03, 2020, 05:29:28 PM »
Yes, so marvellous! I am still trying to find my glasses when I wake up though. And I can’t wait to swim...  And at 49, most of my friends and colleagues begin to use glasses for reading. I am so grateful that I will avoid that.

Do you see your lens in your eyes? In certain light, I see them when looking in the mirror, it is like a flickering and tiny reflect. My eye doctor says that it is possible especially because my pupil is quite large. Also today, trying to adjust a toy-microscope that my son received for Christmas, I saw the reflect of the circles within the lens. So weird!
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Re: Laser operation for better vision
« Reply #71 on: January 03, 2020, 07:17:08 PM »
Yes, so marvellous! I am still trying to find my glasses when I wake up though. And I can’t wait to swim...  And at 49, most of my friends and colleagues begin to use glasses for reading. I am so grateful that I will avoid that.

Do you see your lens in your eyes? In certain light, I see them when looking in the mirror, it is like a flickering and tiny reflect. My eye doctor says that it is possible especially because my pupil is quite large. Also today, trying to adjust a toy-microscope that my son received for Christmas, I saw the reflect of the circles within the lens. So weird!

Wow! No, I haven’t seen my lens in my eyes.

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Re: Laser operation for better vision
« Reply #72 on: January 06, 2020, 07:11:36 PM »
I had Lasik about 15 years ago, and am just now looking at maybe needing an adjustment. I do have a bit of halo/night vision issues, but I don't like to drive at night anyway. I couldn't tolerate gas permeable contacts anymore due to scar tissue and glasses always gave me headaches from pressure no matter how well they were adjusted. For me, the pluses far outweigh the minuses, I might need to get a pair of glasses for the interim, since I missed the window with open enrollment to get a vision plan that offered a big lasik discount, but I think I will have the adjustment in the future.

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Re: Laser operation for better vision
« Reply #73 on: January 07, 2020, 05:27:47 AM »
Little known fact... Most (all?) Employer benefit plans that offer a flexible spending account are set up to reimburse expenses immediately.  But contributions to the account are evenly split throughout the year.  So in most plans you could get vision correction in January, FIRE in February and get your vision correction completely paid for via reimbursement even though you have only paid 2/12 of your annual contribution amount.

Something to think about for those that are close to FIRE.

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Re: Laser operation for better vision
« Reply #74 on: January 08, 2020, 04:57:50 PM »
Little known fact... Most (all?) Employer benefit plans that offer a flexible spending account are set up to reimburse expenses immediately.  But contributions to the account are evenly split throughout the year.  So in most plans you could get vision correction in January, FIRE in February and get your vision correction completely paid for via reimbursement even though you have only paid 2/12 of your annual contribution amount.

Something to think about for those that are close to FIRE.

Did I wander into the "unethical ways to save money" thread?

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Re: Laser operation for better vision
« Reply #75 on: January 08, 2020, 05:54:42 PM »
I can see your point but is it unethical when employers keep all of the money that employees don't spend via the use it or lose it rules?  I've been around enough benefit plans to know that most employers come out ahead despite this loophole. 
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Re: Laser operation for better vision
« Reply #76 on: January 09, 2020, 12:13:07 AM »
I have known a few people to have had this surgery and the dry eye is a thing. I also have read some articles about the risks.

One 'older' person I know that got it years and years ago still wears daily glasses.. but would do it again..?
The other 'younger' people I know that have had it done love not wearing glasses/contacts. One of these people suffer from the dry eye really bad.

I don't want to wear glasses but I am way to afraid to try surgery.

I had Lasik done way back in 1998. It was great, and I was glasses free until this year.

Why?  I hit my mid-40s. That's when the lens in your eye stiffens to a noticeable degree, and you simply don't have the focal range anymore. So, while I'm not even close to full-time wearing, I do have several pairs of (prescription, Zenni ~$8) reading glasses for when I am doing extended reading or extended detailed computer work, and I just got some bifocals I occasionally use to see those small-font PowerPoint presentations.

I have looked at Zenni so many times and have yet to pull the trigger... How do you know you will like them, The photo upload always looks out of proportion with the glasses..?

Eyebuydirect has a 2 week returns, and 1 year warranty, Zenni does not compare warranty wise.

 

Wow, a phone plan for fifteen bucks!