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Follow-up: 6-month "Mini-retirement" in Hawaii
« on: January 22, 2016, 12:09:15 AM »
Aloha! Half a year ago or so, I posted a thread asking for help planning a 6-month stay in Hawaii, where the goal was for my wife and myself to get as far away from full-time work and stress as possible, just for a while. I called it a "mini retirement." I am 25 years old now, and we are not FI, although we are very much Mustachian and in a good financial position relative to our peers, despite mediocre wages (I was a public school teacher; wife made less than that). Here's the old thread: http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/ask-a-mustachian/'mini-retirement'-in-hawaii-%28many-questions-both-financial-and-geographical%29/

...and here is the follow-up now that we're back home after 6 months of paradise:

First of all, the short of the story is that it was a HUGE success! Over the course of 6 months in Hawaii, we each worked about 8-12 hours per week, and our net worth increased by about one thousand dollars (not much, but that's a positive number!!!), even with slightly net negative portfolio returns. We had an AMAZING, unforgettable, mostly uncompromising time, and most importantly, each of our days was unplanned and self-directed. 10/10 would recommend to any Mustachian.

Income details
-Freelance portrait photography (me): Variable, but averaging $500 per month profit over 6 months
-Freelance math/physics tutoring (me): Variable, but averaging $350 per month over 6 months
-Freelance online marketing work (wife): Steady $1300 per month
-Credit card churning: We did this pretty aggressively and probably squeezed a total of close to $2000 profit out of it in 6 months.

Expense details
-We rented a 2-bedroom apartment (too big for us and could have rented the extra room for $400-500/mo easily if we tried) on the coastline road in one of the two main cities on the Big Island. The beach was about 50 meters (30 seconds) from our front door. We paid $930/mo for rent.
-We purchased a low mileage 2000 Mazda Miata convertible for $4500 upon arrival and sold it for $5600 when we left (big profit!). I adored that car. Many great memories.
-We purchased 2 bicycles for $450 on Craigslist and sold them for $400 when we left.
-We furnished our apartment VERY, VERY minimally, knowing that we were probably staying for only 6 months. Our bed was a couple of very thick mattress pads stacked on top of one another, and our main piece of furniture was a $50 card table and chairs set from Walmart. No TV, no couch.
-We purchased a small, portable air conditioning unit for $300 upon arrival, and electricity was INSANELY expensive, so we paid roughly $200/mo to run it through the scorching summer. Most people lived without AC, but to me, this was worth it. Call it my weakness. We sold it for $200 when we left.
-Everyone complains that food is insanely expensive in Hawaii. It is, if you keep eating exactly as you did on the mainland. If you relegate yourself to Walmart/Costco groceries only and eat healthy amounts of staple foods such as rice and pasta, food is very cheap. This is what we did. We probably ate out 10 times or so in 6 months. It was actually very satisfying.
-We did visit 5 different Hawaiian islands while we were there. This was the most expensive part of the trip, due to flying , ferrying, and hotels. We slept inside of rental cars in rural areas several times to save money, and we did use some saved up credit card rewards points on hotels and airfare.
-We paid our next door neighbor $30/mo for their WiFi password, since an Internet connection was about $60/mo normally.
-Entertainment budget was very very close to ZERO, and we were never bored! Nature is truly amazing.
-Obviously all other normal life expenses applied, and were handled in Mustachian ways. Interestingly, car insurance is REALLY cheap in Hawaii!
-Just a note...Our net change in net worth was about +$1000 over the course of the trip, but as you can see, there was a lot of up-front cash layout to begin (car, bikes, etc.), so you probably want at least $15-30k (being super conservative) to feel safe beginning a journey like this. We had more than that.

Fun factors and other notes
-This trip was insane. Not just because it was Hawaii, but also because we have never felt this type of freedom and self-sufficiency and self-direction in our lives. TRY IT. This trip was such a huge boost for my motivation to keep developing toward FI.
-Holy crap, there is no greater place on Earth for (just-for-fun) photography than Hawaii.
-Making a list of things we wanted to do on the island and putting it on the fridge was helpful. We'd just wake up every day and say, “hey, which thing should we go do?” 99% of these things were just free stuff in nature (hiking, biking, swimming, snorkeling, etc.).
-TONS of people warned us before going that local Hawaiians are unkind to “haole” (white people). Wow, this could not be further from the truth. These are some of the most caring, incredible people on the planet. The spirit of aloha is alive and well. I think a lot of horror stories must come from people who are living the go-go-go consumerist tourist lifestyle in Hawaii. We probably fit in a lot more due to our modest lifestyle, and that maybe helped. Please, if you go to Hawaii, be cool. It is a special place with special people deserving of immense respect.

Anyway, we're back home now and are in the process of buying our very first home for cash! Then it's back to full-time work to prepare for FI. I really hope this post encourages someone, not specifically to go to Hawaii, but just to realize the liberty and autonomy you have.

Feel free to ask questions!
« Last Edit: January 22, 2016, 12:26:15 AM by steevven1 »

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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2016, 05:33:52 AM »
I'm glad to see you had a successful trip :)

Just curious, why did you stop? Was it that you reached the end of the planned time frame? Rent out the other room of the apartment and it sounds like you could have financed that lifestyle indefinitely. I'm probably missing something, but either way you were pretty close.

Hawaii has 'no fault' insurance, where even if you hit someone, your insurance only pays your costs, which is why it's so cheap. Going from CT to HI, my liability insurance was literally half... from $82.50/mo to $41.25/mo, but the higher gas prices seem to off-set that savings.

I was stationed in Pearl Harbor for 2 years (O'ahu not the big island) and from what I've been told, the negativity towards haoles is more concentrated there (more outsiders) but even then, as long as you weren't a jackass, there typically weren't problems... but like all bigotry, there are some cases where it doesn't matter how good/bad you are anyway.

I'm very jealous of your trip :) I was stuck on a submarine for 80+ hours a week when we were in port, so I didn't get many opportunities to live like you did. I may end up stealing your idea some day. Again, glad to see it was a success!


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Re: Follow-up: 6-month "Mini-retirement" in Hawaii
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2016, 07:16:45 AM »
Awesome!  I was on Oahu for 2.5 years while in grad school.  I absolutely loved it there.  And I also agree that some of the COL fears are overblown.  HI is very bikable, and I actually did OK finding reasonable apartments.

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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2016, 07:47:35 AM »
Sounds really amazing! I wish I would have thought about doing something like this in my 20's. Too many responsibilities now and amazing jobs we don't want to give up on yet.

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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2016, 07:49:48 AM »
This is really so inspiring! Thank you for sharing your experience. I can't wait to try something like this and reading about your experience has really given me a boost of energy to keep chasing FI.

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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2016, 07:52:41 AM »
From your other post,

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We have never been to Hawaii. We don't know if we'll want to stay 3 months, or 6 months, or forever.

What reasons influenced you not to stay forever?

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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2016, 09:18:02 AM »
From your other post,

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We have never been to Hawaii. We don't know if we'll want to stay 3 months, or 6 months, or forever.

What reasons influenced you not to stay forever?

Financially, this lifestyle could have been sustained indefinitely. Yet, leaving was still partly a financial decision. Our main reasons for leaving after 6 months were:

1) Almost all of our friends and family live in Florida. Literally the only people we knew on the island were those we met and became friends with.
2) The Big Island in particular has a very small and slow economy. I'm interested in advancing toward FI rapidly, and this was meant as a break. I feel I can make more money elsewhere.
3) We wanted to buy a house for cash. Real estate in Hawaii was beyond our means at this time.
4) After having this experience and realizing how easy it really is to go to some amazing place and live for 6 months, I am seriously considering doing it again, and again, and again, in different places! Right now, we are regrouping and building financially for a while, but wow, this trip was an eye-opener to the freedom we have!

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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2016, 09:23:47 AM »
Your post is pretty inspiring. In two years once I have my "old money" stash set its definitely what I'd like to do!

My main question: What did you do with your "stuff" when you moved there? How much stuff did you take with you?

One of the things holding me back is I know we would not be able to sustain it indefinitely. So coming back or settling down somewhere to have "real jobs" at one point in time is a high probability. We are fortunate in having some high quality crap that would definitely take a large startup fund to amass again. Think more like guitars, min DIY equip, outdoors equipment, decent kitchen equipment, large homebrew setup that took years to piecemeal, etc. I would hate to sell or give away everything and waste money on it again in the future. Although financially it might make more sense.

Did you sell everything? Put it in storage? Have good friends or parents that let you store only the most important stuff? Giveaway down to the essentials?

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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2016, 09:33:35 AM »
Your post is pretty inspiring. In two years once I have my "old money" stash set its definitely what I'd like to do!

My main question: What did you do with your "stuff" when you moved there? How much stuff did you take with you?

One of the things holding me back is I know we would not be able to sustain it indefinitely. So coming back or settling down somewhere to have "real jobs" at one point in time is a high probability. We are fortunate in having some high quality crap that would definitely take a large startup fund to amass again. Think more like guitars, min DIY equip, outdoors equipment, decent kitchen equipment, large homebrew setup that took years to piecemeal, etc. I would hate to sell or give away everything and waste money on it again in the future. Although financially it might make more sense.

Did you sell everything? Put it in storage? Have good friends or parents that let you store only the most important stuff? Giveaway down to the essentials?

Thanks! We sold a lot of huge stuff, like furniture, etc. Everything else, we kept stored in my mother's house (she hasn't converted my old bedroom into anything yet, even though I left at 18). We brought four suitcases and a few carry-on bags with us to Hawaii; that's it.

This may not suit the fancy of many, but one thing I have noticed is that owning less stuff, particularly less large and expensive stuff (furniture), really increases your level of freedom in life. We buy most of our furniture at IKEA (the cheapest available stuff). Whenever we want to move (even on the mainland), we never have to get a moving truck or anything; we just list everything on Craigslist, and we recover an unreasonably large amount of our original investment.

If you buy a $20 table at IKEA, you will get $20 for it on Craigslist 3 years later (really!). If you buy a $500 table, you may get $50-150 for it on Craigslist 3 years later. To me, buying "nice" furniture is equivalent to lighting money on fire, unless you are committing to staying in one location for decades. Just a thought!

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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2016, 09:43:16 AM »
We took a month long vacation in South America in 2015. It was such an unbelievable feeling to not have stuff to worry about. Its one of the main things I dream of! No crap to maintain or upkeep. Knowing you can only have so much stuff because you won't want to carry it onto the next place just forces you to do without and figure it out. For the first time in my adult life I felt truly relaxed without having a thousand other to-do's on my mind. Its amazing how much can be lifted just by stuff. In a weird way our stuff is both the main driver and a big stumbling block for taking a risk like this mini-retirement or semi-nomadic lifestyle. Is that crazy?

I just know we'd have to hit reality again at some point. And there are few things we'd want to keep long term or would be beneficial to keep based on their value (cost to rebuy) to size ratio. Yes, I've totally thought about making an equation on whether we would keep things based on a freaking cost-benefit ratio. Over-analyzing is my worst personal trait.

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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2016, 02:19:17 PM »
Your post is pretty inspiring. In two years once I have my "old money" stash set its definitely what I'd like to do!

My main question: What did you do with your "stuff" when you moved there? How much stuff did you take with you?

One of the things holding me back is I know we would not be able to sustain it indefinitely. So coming back or settling down somewhere to have "real jobs" at one point in time is a high probability. We are fortunate in having some high quality crap that would definitely take a large startup fund to amass again. Think more like guitars, min DIY equip, outdoors equipment, decent kitchen equipment, large homebrew setup that took years to piecemeal, etc. I would hate to sell or give away everything and waste money on it again in the future. Although financially it might make more sense.

Did you sell everything? Put it in storage? Have good friends or parents that let you store only the most important stuff? Giveaway down to the essentials?

The post office is the cheapest way to ship stuff to Hawaii. It's about $110-$120 for a 5 cubic ft. box, no more than 70 pounds. For the cheapest rate the box can't be more than 108 inches total. They will ship up to 120 inches total, but if it's in the 109-120 inch range, it's more like $165 for a 68 pound box.

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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2016, 03:59:35 PM »
Great to hear about your experience. Did you choose the Big Island because of the lower rents there? Do you have any recommendations on other places to live for a several-month period? Hawaii seems fairly expensive overall.

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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2016, 10:28:47 PM »
If you buy a $20 table at IKEA, you will get $20 for it on Craigslist 3 years later (really!). If you buy a $500 table, you may get $50-150 for it on Craigslist 3 years later. To me, buying "nice" furniture is equivalent to lighting money on fire, unless you are committing to staying in one location for decades. Just a thought!

Really?  I was scoping prices for used Ikea stuff on Craigslist when we moved back to Seattle, and typically what I saw were listing prices of 30-50% of the cost of the same item new as long as it was in good condition.  I rarely saw anything listed for full price, even if it was still in the boxes (those might list for more like 70-80% of the new price).

Best strategy is to try to get as much Ikea stuff (or other furniture) USED as you can, and then you can often resell for more than you paid for it.

In my experience, the super low-end stuff is what you get 100% of your money back on when it comes to furniture. Obviously you can't list it with a brand and model name, because then people will look it up and see the new price. List it generically as a table with pictures, and you can get all of your money back. I'm talking about the stuff that is under $50 only.

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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2016, 10:30:57 PM »
Great to hear about your experience. Did you choose the Big Island because of the lower rents there? Do you have any recommendations on other places to live for a several-month period? Hawaii seems fairly expensive overall.

The Big Island has the cheapest real estate in Hawaii, and probably the lowest rent, but we chose it because it was our absolute favorite island. My recommendation would be to go ANYWHERE you want, because it can be done very easily! I like that I can use Hawaii as an example because it is almost a worst-case scenario in terms of cost of living!

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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2016, 03:58:01 AM »
So awesome!  This type of post inspires me and gets me excited.  Thanks for following up!  :D
I am a former teacher who accumulated a bunch of real estate, retired at 29, spent some time traveling the world full time and am now settled with three kids.
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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2016, 07:12:21 AM »
It sounds like an awesome experience.

Congratulations on making it work so well, and thank you for giving us the update!

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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2016, 09:35:21 AM »
Thanks for posting this!
The only way to reall, truly "get" how possible it is to lv differently, is to experience it.
As you say,"wow, this trip was an eye-opener to the freedom we have!"
This is freedom everyone with a scent amount of savings and employability enjoys. . . right now!

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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2016, 09:43:26 AM »
Oops. "Decent" amount of savings is what I meant.
Anyway, the point is to celebrate how much un-noticed freedom so many people could enjoy . . . If they jump in and try it out.

Just one more way us first-world folks live in such stunning abundance and take it for granted.

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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2016, 10:55:31 PM »
Just one more way us first-world folks live in such stunning abundance and take it for granted.

Well said.

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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2016, 09:39:42 AM »
Congrats on making your adventure work!  Mr PoP did a couple of what he calls "walkabouts"  (one of which was in Hawaii!) before we were married where he did some traveling while working minimally and basically just staying afloat financially and I think they really made him who he is today.  (And that's a good thing!)

Also - hope you don't mind, but I just sent you a PM with some questions on big island since it's looking like we'll be headed there later this year! 

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« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2016, 11:00:03 AM »
Congrats on making your adventure work!  Mr PoP did a couple of what he calls "walkabouts"  (one of which was in Hawaii!) before we were married where he did some traveling while working minimally and basically just staying afloat financially and I think they really made him who he is today.  (And that's a good thing!)

Also - hope you don't mind, but I just sent you a PM with some questions on big island since it's looking like we'll be headed there later this year!

Replied! :-)

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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2016, 09:03:41 AM »
Awesome story!

Q:

How did you find the apartment, how did you find the car, and did you have a mechanic look at the car before buying? 

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« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2016, 11:47:12 AM »
Cool story! I am 25 myself, and even now doing something like you did seems insurmountable for me, even though I would LOVE to do something like that. With DW finishing her grad degree, student loans, my job tied to our current location, family, friends, etc. It's inspiring to see someone else live it though! Thanks for sharing the journey with us!

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« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2016, 10:14:03 PM »
Awesome story!

Q:

How did you find the apartment, how did you find the car, and did you have a mechanic look at the car before buying?

Thanks!

With the apartment, we searched Craigslist, local ads, street flyers, and apartment websites. We also asked around with local property management companies who run multiple apartment complexes. We looked at 2 or 3 apartments before deciding on the one we chose, which was actually a no-brainer because the rent was very low, and you could hear the ocean crashing from the balcony(!). The one we chose was found through Craigslist, though it was listed by a property management company.

The car was found through Craigslist from an individual owner who had owned the car for 5+ years and cared for it thoroughly. We actually bought the first car we looked at. I checked the oil and water, and I took it for a test ride. No mechanic looked at it. Buying a used car is ALWAYS a risk, and you should always be 100% prepared for it to explode the next day and for you to need to buy another one (even though that is unlikely). Buying a cheap, used car is a risk, but it is one that pays off MASSIVELY when done a statistically significant number of times over a lifetime. We got lucky selling it for more than we paid, which sometimes happens.

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« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2016, 10:31:43 PM »
Thanks for posting this. It sounds awesome. I'd say I can't follow in your footsteps because of the dogs, but even that only needs six months planning.. hmmm :)

Great experience and thanks again for sharing.

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« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2016, 01:22:27 AM »
Awesome!  I did something similar myself at age 24.  Sublet my furnished pad on the mainland and spent 3 months on the Big Island. 

Five years later, I treated myself to two months of travel btwn jobs - Europe (UK, France, Switzerland) and Cuba/St Croix/Costa Rica.

Coming up, Aus/NZ/Tahiti!

My dad jokes I like to retire early and often...

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« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2016, 03:27:46 AM »
Great job!  I've found Hawaii to be a relatively cheap place to live as well, glad it worked out!

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« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2016, 01:27:10 PM »
I remember your original post. Thanks for coming back to update on your awesome experience. I had a similar experience in Honolulu with the local people. The locals truly "live aloha" and I left the islands inspired by their example. Nowhere in America are people living more free of mind and spirit than Hawaii.

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« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2016, 06:03:32 PM »
Fantastic story!  Thanks for sharing ... makes me want to move to Hawaii!

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« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2016, 06:38:35 PM »
OP -- May I ask which side of the Big Island you were on?

Since you said apartments, I suspect it was the west side.

I live on the east side. It is a fantastic place to live. It is expensive when compared to the US middle but much cheaper when compared to the coast cities. 

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« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2016, 06:43:48 PM »
How awesome that you had a 6-month adventure and came back with a positive increase in your net worth - very inspiring! Sounds like you had a wonderful work-life balance too - only working about 10 hours per week and having the rest of the time free to enjoy your surroundings. May I ask you how you went about getting the word out there about your portfolio photography and attracting customers?

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« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2016, 09:41:04 AM »
OP -- May I ask which side of the Big Island you were on?

Since you said apartments, I suspect it was the west side.

I live on the east side. It is a fantastic place to live. It is expensive when compared to the US middle but much cheaper when compared to the coast cities.

Yep; We lived in Kona on Ali'i Drive :-)

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« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2016, 09:43:24 AM »
How awesome that you had a 6-month adventure and came back with a positive increase in your net worth - very inspiring! Sounds like you had a wonderful work-life balance too - only working about 10 hours per week and having the rest of the time free to enjoy your surroundings. May I ask you how you went about getting the word out there about your portfolio photography and attracting customers?

Thanks! Photography is a hard business because it's not something many people NEED, only something they might want, and it is an expensive product. I used paid, targeted Facebook Ads, as well as normal social media marketing, Craigslist, and direct "door-to-door" (approaching strangers, both individuals and businesses). I could have probably made a lot more if I put more time into marketing, but I mostly didn't :-p

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« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2016, 12:43:12 PM »
Hell Y.E.S.!!  That is fantastic!  Very creative way to engineer an incredible sabbatical.  We were in Maui for 2 weeks back in Aug/Sep and I wasn't expecting much, but was blown away by the place.  I'd been to Oahu (okay, too touristy) and Kauai before (was young and in the military, didn't take full advantage) and liked them, but having traveled a lot to places in the Far East, Caribbean and Europe, I just didn't think Maui would be anything exceptional.  I was wrong.  It is amazing.  And the people were chill and cool. And the natural beauty is incredible.  I am totally considering spending a good amount of time there once I FIRE.

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Re: Follow-up: 6-month "Mini-retirement" in Hawaii
« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2016, 01:30:09 PM »
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-We rented a 2-bedroom apartment (too big for us and could have rented the extra room for $400-500/mo easily if we tried) on the coastline road in one of the two main cities on the Big Island. The beach was about 50 meters (30 seconds) from our front door. We paid $930/mo for rent.

That sounds super doable. Do you remember how much a 1 bedroom was?

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Re: Follow-up: 6-month "Mini-retirement" in Hawaii
« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2016, 03:23:22 PM »
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-We rented a 2-bedroom apartment (too big for us and could have rented the extra room for $400-500/mo easily if we tried) on the coastline road in one of the two main cities on the Big Island. The beach was about 50 meters (30 seconds) from our front door. We paid $930/mo for rent.

That sounds super doable. Do you remember how much a 1 bedroom was?

It really depends on where you want to live. We lived basically ON the beach, in a populated town. This is expensive. Our apartment was a steal, really. Other 1-bedroom places in the same vicinity were at least the same price. We didn't need two bedrooms at all.

If you want to live in a largely unpopulated area of Hawaii island, you can pay WAY, WAY less (half, or even less). Real estate is INSANELY cheap if you get far away from town, especially in the general vicinity of Hawai'i Volcanoes National Park.

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Re: Follow-up: 6-month "Mini-retirement" in Hawaii
« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2016, 03:32:04 PM »
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-We rented a 2-bedroom apartment (too big for us and could have rented the extra room for $400-500/mo easily if we tried) on the coastline road in one of the two main cities on the Big Island. The beach was about 50 meters (30 seconds) from our front door. We paid $930/mo for rent.

That sounds super doable. Do you remember how much a 1 bedroom was?

It really depends on where you want to live. We lived basically ON the beach, in a populated town. This is expensive. Our apartment was a steal, really. Other 1-bedroom places in the same vicinity were at least the same price. We didn't need two bedrooms at all.

If you want to live in a largely unpopulated area of Hawaii island, you can pay WAY, WAY less (half, or even less). Real estate is INSANELY cheap if you get far away from town, especially in the general vicinity of Hawai'i Volcanoes National Park.

Ah, it sounds like you got lucky. I'd totally pay $900-ish to live on the beach, even in a 1 bedroom, but away from everything? Might as well move to rural Texas or something. :D

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Re: Follow-up: 6-month "Mini-retirement" in Hawaii
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2016, 10:08:36 PM »
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-We rented a 2-bedroom apartment (too big for us and could have rented the extra room for $400-500/mo easily if we tried) on the coastline road in one of the two main cities on the Big Island. The beach was about 50 meters (30 seconds) from our front door. We paid $930/mo for rent.

That sounds super doable. Do you remember how much a 1 bedroom was?

It really depends on where you want to live. We lived basically ON the beach, in a populated town. This is expensive. Our apartment was a steal, really. Other 1-bedroom places in the same vicinity were at least the same price. We didn't need two bedrooms at all.

If you want to live in a largely unpopulated area of Hawaii island, you can pay WAY, WAY less (half, or even less). Real estate is INSANELY cheap if you get far away from town, especially in the general vicinity of Hawai'i Volcanoes National Park.

Ah, it sounds like you got lucky. I'd totally pay $900-ish to live on the beach, even in a 1 bedroom, but away from everything? Might as well move to rural Texas or something. :D

Definitely good fortune contributed to the overall greatness of this adventure, but with worse luck and maybe an extra 2 hours of work per week, I think it was a repeatable experiment.

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Re: Follow-up: 6-month "Mini-retirement" in Hawaii
« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2016, 11:54:20 PM »
Aloha! Half a year ago or so, I posted a thread asking for help planning a 6-month stay in Hawaii, where the goal was for my wife and myself to get as far away from full-time work and stress as possible, just for a while. I called it a "mini retirement." I am 25 years old now, and we are not FI, although we are very much Mustachian and in a good financial position relative to our peers, despite mediocre wages (I was a public school teacher; wife made less than that). Here's the old thread: http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/ask-a-mustachian/'mini-retirement'-in-hawaii-%28many-questions-both-financial-and-geographical%29/
Well, crap, I'm sorry I missed your original thread.  I'm glad everything worked out.

You're exactly right about photography.  I know a lot of content editors who avoid stories or news here because it's "too hard" to find a freelance photographer.  Luckily that's changing for the better.

Those of you worried about culture/discrimination, or food expenses, or Oahu's crowds... there are solutions to all of those problems.  We've lived all over the world and had the same experiences in many places, and we've managed to succeed.

Oahu is more than Waikiki or Honolulu.

http://the-military-guide.com/2011/10/13/lifestyles-in-military-retirement-living-in-hawaii/
http://the-military-guide.com/2012/06/14/lifestyles-in-early-retirement-hawaii-long-term-travel/
http://the-military-guide.com/2012/08/27/good-reasons-not-to-live-in-hawaii/
http://the-military-guide.com/2013/04/15/lifestyles-in-hawaii-hawaii-island-the-big-island/



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Re: Follow-up: 6-month "Mini-retirement" in Hawaii
« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2016, 07:09:50 PM »
Sounds amazing. Are the photos online?

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Re: Follow-up: 6-month "Mini-retirement" in Hawaii
« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2016, 04:08:26 AM »
I love reading stories like this - makes me realise I can probably FIRE earlier than planned if I get some side hustles or part time gigs going.


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Re: Follow-up: 6-month "Mini-retirement" in Hawaii
« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2016, 01:58:11 PM »
in for later