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Mr Mark

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in praise of homemade pies.
« on: August 13, 2012, 09:25:28 PM »

Last week I made a batch of Steak & kidney pies. If you like kidney (and hey,not everyone's into offal I realise) they were amazing. But it made me remember why pies were such a big thing with my old grandparent's generation. It means you can 'extend' meat (and cheaper cuts too) to feed an army on the cheap. Pies these days seem to be these frozen sugar and flour filled expensive supermarket processed crap.

But done properly, I love them. A great way to deal with cheap fruit too. Pies freeze really well.

If you're interested, here's a recipe (if you don't like kidney, replace with mushrooms). It is a very very forgiving recipe
- just go for it.

Ingredients:
5 lb steak - top round, even brisket, basically whatever is on sale. Do not pay more than $4/lb, and try for a bit of marbling
2.5 lb kidney, beef or lamb
2 big onions, any type
Few sticks of Celery
Any bits of left over spring onions/scalions or mushrooms almost past their sell by date
1 medium potato skin on
Beef stock - about 2  or 3 cups
That 1/3 bottle of red wine left over  from a few nights ago
Rubbed sage 2 tbl sp
Thyme 1 tbl sp
A few juniper berries (optional)
3 bay leaves
2 tbl sp flour
A few tbl sp corn starch or arrowroot
10 good shots of Wostershire  sauce (sp?)
A few good squirts of BBQ sauce and mustard
Salt and pepper
Lard or coconut oil
Puff pastry (enough for about 5 big pies)

Directions
Cut the steak and kidney into 1/2 inch pieces, trimming the gristle and white bits from the kidneys. Fine dice the onions, celery, potato, and anything else.

Brown the steak, then kidney, in batches in the lard in a big Dutch oven or saucepan. Put aside.

Brown the onions, celery, etc. Throw in the spices, and deglaze with the wine. Put in everything else except for the corn starch and simmer for 1.5 hours, stirring occasionally.

Preheat oven to 350f, and prepare the pie bases. I put mine into old cast iron frying pans.

Let the mixture cool for 15 mins, then with a slotted spoon, fill the bases with the meat mix, draining the liquid.

Bring remaining liquid and dissolved veggies back to boil and add corn starch to thicken. Distribute the thick gravy onto the meat in the bases.

Top pies, sealing edges. Decorate with left over pastry and brush with an egg. Pierce a few holes in top.

Bake 45 min until crust is nice and brown.

Can be frozen once cooled and reheated. Also OK cold.

Feeds an army. Great with mashed potato and salad. Hope you like it!


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Re: in praise of homemade pies.
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2012, 12:46:03 AM »
Wait.. There are such things as not homemade pies? :-O

Nice recipe though, I like it :)

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Re: in praise of homemade pies.
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2012, 06:37:25 AM »
Wait.. There are such things as not homemade pies? :-O

Yes, there are the frightening kind, and there are the ridiculously expensive kind.

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Re: in praise of homemade pies.
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2012, 08:42:00 AM »
Great idea - thanks for sharing.

At our house, we make random curries to use up leftover bits of veggies and such.

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Re: in praise of homemade pies.
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2012, 09:02:01 AM »
It's not a homemade pie unless the crust is from scratch. That's like the whole point of pies for me.

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Re: in praise of homemade pies.
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2012, 09:18:14 AM »
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It's not a homemade pie unless the crust is from scratch

I have to agree with grantmeaname on this one.  Nothing beats a nice, light, flaky crust, yummmmmm.  Now I'm hungry, I may have to hit the farmer's market now tomorrow to get some peaches for a peach pie

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Re: in praise of homemade pies.
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2012, 10:37:06 AM »
Even better,a suet crust, nice and thick, same filling mix as above, but you steam the suet 'pudding' - heaven.

But frozen pastry is pretty good, especially for fillo which is a total hassle to make from scratch.

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Re: in praise of homemade pies.
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2012, 10:46:50 AM »
I tried to make puff pastry once.  It was lousy puff pastry, but it made pretty good pie crust.

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Re: in praise of homemade pies.
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2012, 11:53:53 AM »
It's not a homemade pie unless the crust is from scratch.

Err... How else would you make pie crust?  I'm not really a pie person, though, but I like to make turnovers, pocket pies, etc.

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Re: in praise of homemade pies.
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2012, 12:00:39 PM »
Err... How else would you make pie crust?  I'm not really a pie person, though, but I like to make turnovers, pocket pies, etc.

Premade, unbaked pie crusts, or pie shells. See your local grocery frozen food section for details.

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Re: in praise of homemade pies.
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2012, 04:05:08 AM »
Ooooooo I'm voting up shortcrust pies - pastry on the bottom as well as the top.

That way you can have the other half cold for lunch the next day and it stays together enough to be held in your hand  :)

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Re: in praise of homemade pies.
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2012, 11:30:29 AM »
Err... How else would you make pie crust?  I'm not really a pie person, though, but I like to make turnovers, pocket pies, etc.

Premade, unbaked pie crusts, or pie shells. See your local grocery frozen food section for details.

Err...  That WAS supposed to be sarcasm, as whenever I bring various baked goods (or other goodies) to gatherings, someone invariably asks "Hey, where did you buy that?"

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Re: in praise of homemade pies.
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2012, 03:14:23 PM »
When I made my first pie, I briefly thought that "easy as pie" applied to making pie. I was apparently not bright enough to realize that the phrase applies to the consumption of pie rather than its production. Still, making pie was definitely easier than I thought it would be.

There is something special about a pie made of hand-picked, wild blackberries with a scoop or two of vanilla ice cream. Maybe I'll try a meaty pie this fall once the weather cools enough to bake without heating up the house.

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Re: in praise of homemade pies.
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2012, 12:26:16 PM »
Made my first steak pie yesterday (steak, bacon mushroom, cheese). Fucking tasty, even the wife enjoyed it and she's not a pie person. Cheap to make as well.

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Re: in praise of homemade pies.
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2012, 09:42:30 AM »
Made my first steak pie yesterday (steak, bacon mushroom, cheese). Fucking tasty, even the wife enjoyed it and she's not a pie person. Cheap to make as well.
Mmm, the bacon sounds like a good idea. I really like a little bacon in a stew or coq au vin. Gotta try this when the weather cools down.

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Re: in praise of homemade pies.
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2012, 06:44:09 PM »
Totally do, and it doesn't have to be a lot of bacon.

And for anyone that's into simplifying recipes, I dropped the beef stock and a lot of the other ingredients, and instead used half a packet of instant gravy.
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