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I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« on: November 12, 2023, 10:25:23 AM »
I absolutely loved it. No complaints. A life goal achieved. Traveled coast to coast and top to bottom and saw about 20 states. Met SO MANY wonderful people on the train. Being a non-planner type, I really took advantage of the hop-on-hop-off freedom of the pass, deciding where to go next and when on loose goals and weather-related whims.

Amtrak customer service is truly great. Call 1-800-USA-RAIL with any questions, they can fix your complicated itinerary or refund you money or advise on the best train to take. Had almost no delays, and only one train cancellation due to mudslides (it was cleared the next day). I was in coach the whole way (the rail pass is only for coach).

Unlike some I know who take a long-distance train ride and decide once is enough, I can truly say I am addicted to Amtrak!!! And for those who think Europe has better trains, I point to Chicago’s train station, where I realized that America DOES have an incredible and efficient rail network. Also, America is HUGE.

Anyhoo this was a massive life and post-FIRE goal and I did it!!!!! Thanks to this community and MMM for showing me the way to FIRE, which I often think is the best thing I ever did (after the USA Rail Pass). I will get another pass in the near future! Also, you don’t have to spend 30 days… I could have done it in 2 or 3 weeks with less time spent in a location, or covering less distance.
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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2023, 12:02:33 PM »
Do you have a blog or something that details your route and what you did in between? That would be super interesting!

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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2023, 12:03:26 PM »
Glad you had a great experience!


I really enjoyed the 6 hour Amtrak train from Memphis to New Orleans and am planning to do even longer Amtrak trips in the next few years.

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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2023, 12:37:54 PM »
Very cool! Super impressed & would love to know more about your itinerary, what you found along the way & any tips & tricks.

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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2023, 01:08:00 PM »
Yes, please give us more detail on where you started, what you did on the way and where you ended up. Can you include some idea of the prices too. This is very interesting! I HATE to drive anywhere anymore and this is a great option!

I have only been on trains twice as an adult and once was in Switzerland for a short ride to my destination. I was travelling alone so I was pretty scared and also being in a foreign country was a bit head spinning. The other time was pretty easy and went from CT to Grand Central Station non stop and was easy and actually very relaxing. I have never done that before and I expected to be knee deep in trash and see cut up seats with stuffing falling out of them. It was quite the opposite. It was clean, quiet, relaxing and nothing scary.

Would love to hear your travel story and what you would do different or not next time.

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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2023, 02:10:01 PM »
The pass costs $500 for 10 trips of any lengths on most routes (some very few exceptions such as Acela, the Boston-to-DC high speed line). It goes on sale sometimes for $300. You have 30 days from your first trip to use all 10. You have a few months (maybe 6) to use it once you buy it.

There are tons of blogs and YouTube videos with strategies. I had family, friends, and specific cities I wanted to visit, so that guided my itinerary. This was also a bit of a working trip in that I did my side hustle and made money the whole trip. I prefer working when traveling vs. just being a tourist, as it gives me a sense of purpose.

I booked hotels when needed on the fly via hotels.com on my phone. The integrated Apple Pay was pretty cool for booking — first time I used that. I also used Apple Pay on the train to buy food after I lost my Amtrak credit card and had to cancel it. I also booked hotels by finding one near the Amtrak station and calling directly as soon as I arrived.

I wouldn’t change a thing!!! It exceeded my expectations. Some places I’d like to have stayed longer at, so next time I will! Obviously, I probably wouldn’t follow the exact same itinerary but do some different things. I really didn’t feel the month go by, to my surprise. It’s the longest trip I’ve ever taken in my life.

I had no trouble sleeping in coach. I bought a neck pillow at Ross that has an attached hoodie that covered my eyes like a sleep mask. I brought a blanket (most people do) but could have gone without it. I mailed a box home of stuff about halfway through my trip because I was tired of carrying it. One thing I did was travel no more than 24-27 hours per trip (some trips were only 6-9 hours, which felt quite short by comparison). Note that you don’t have to travel as far as I did, but if you are going coast to coast, it will take 3-4 days to cross the country no matter what route you use.

Another important tip is to maximize your use of the thruway connection buses. They are mostly excellent quality buses, however, some are Greyhound and I didn’t ride these (plus, if you see it’s a 24 hour bus trip, you obviously may decide to forgo that). I used bus connections lasting anywhere from 30 minutes to 3 hours.

The other important tip is to cancel your trip if you know you won’t make it on time. So long as you cancel before the train/bus leaves, your ticket will be refunded.

Also, pretty much all Amtrak routes sell out. So you do need to be proactive in giving yourself at least 1-3 days to make a decision to book a route. But because you can cancel if you change your mind, that’s an easy strategy to manage. Some people talk about flying some segments. While I never felt the need to do that, I did rent a car for two days to take one small jaunt that was only reachable via Amtrak’s late night Greyhound connection.
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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2023, 02:51:27 PM »
What kind of work did you do while you were traveling?

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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2023, 10:49:30 PM »
Did you have reliable wifi on the train? What stops did you make?

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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2023, 11:57:52 PM »
We've traveled Amtrak up and down the West Coast and found it nice to do.
The scenery was awesome, including a rocket at the pad at Vandenberg Space Force  Base.
Had a bunk bed set up, that worked OK but a little difficult and would be more difficult if we had been older.
Privacy was key for my wife, new to trains.

I've done Eurorail passes that were super convenient hop on hop off, and cheaper than buying the same thing by the trip.

Mostly PTF.

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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2023, 09:04:23 AM »
Train Wi-Fi is hit or miss but I like most people on the train have a cell phone with data and hotspot.

I don’t share my itinerary here since I don’t share my location on this forum but here is an example of a coast-to-coast itinerary:

Pennsylvanian to Pittsburgh
Capitol Limited to Chicago
California Zephyr to Emeryville
Coast Starlight to Los Angeles
Southwest Chief to Chicago
Lake Shore Limited to New York

Obviously you break this up with overnights or even week-long stays in whatever city interests you.

You add in a few shorter trips or bus connections and presto, 10 rides (segments)! In my case, I actually did 13 segments, paying for the first 3 since I was worried about traveling more than 24 hours in coach and wanted the option to upgrade to a roomette. But in fact I had no trouble sleeping in coach, and the roomettes were all sold out since I had waited too long to book. It’s all about expectations... since I knew I wouldn’t have a roomette, I didn’t worry about it.

I should also clarify that I am the kind of person who A) loves trains B) has taken public transit all my life and C) is easily impressed (as my kids say LOL). If you are not this kind of person, continent-spanning long-distance train rides may not be for you. On the other hand, BY NO MEANS was this travel hard or stressful. In fact, the number one thing other train passengers will say is how relaxing train travel is compared to other modes.

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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2023, 09:10:49 AM »
Fantastic! I have to do this some day soon. You had already gotten me thinking about train to Moab a while ago and that plan is gradually coming together.

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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2023, 10:06:06 AM »
Awesome @Chaplin! You will love it.

The other rarely-spoken* reason I take the train is that thanks to @JoshuaSpodek on this forum I realized that air travel is extremely environmentally costly and I want to minimize my use of it. I haven’t flown in 4 years as a result.

Also, I love simple, old ways of doing things and old, time-tested technology (as well as the newest tech). I believe in the Buckminster Fuller environmental concept of ephemeralism, or doing more with less. To me the train fits this perfectly.

Oh, you’ll also see lots of Amish and Mennonites on the train. I had an interesting convo one night with an Amish man. He was very nice but he said their culture feels sorry for all the people addicted to their phones. He passed his time with a Sudoku book, or calling out animals he saw to the rest of us in the observation car (he had the best eye of all of us). Crossing the Southwest, we saw elk, bison, deer and antelope!

A train is a form of technology, of course, so I am not sure where the Amish draw the line. But it was sweet to see Amish teens who were pretty much like normal teens but no phones.

*It’s funny how no one ever asks me if there’s an environmental reason for taking the train. They usually wonder if I have a phobia or am financially struggling (ironic since the train can be expensive, though cheap fares are available for middle distances). I currently think that proselytizing about the train comes off as recommending people accept my religion or something. It would be cool to come up with ways to mention this without seeming like a true believer. Basically it’s like being a vegan, but trains LOL. I fear my obsession will only get worse 😂
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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2023, 10:17:14 AM »
I'm a big fan of trains for a lot of the same reasons. I find it very sad that we (Canada) are closing in on having spent $30 billion on an oil pipeline but not HSR (High-Speed Rail). More than 90% of my driving now is due to the lack of good inter-city transit. The time difference, especially if it were truly high-speed (>300km/h), is pretty low. For me to fly to visit my mother for Christmas, which we're doing this year, it's about six hours of flying. But when you add that you usually don't sleep well the night before, a few hours for a connection, then renting a car to get to the final destination, and then straight to bed, it's pretty much a 36 hour trip. I'd much rather spend those 36 hours on a train with two night of sleep (why not get the traveling done while you're asleep?), even if the total trip was over 48 hours.

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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2023, 03:03:54 PM »
Oooh-I did this back in 1994 and had the best time (until Portland when I got super ill and had to travel back home to the Bay Area in CA sick on a train). Chicago train station is amazing! Thanks for sharing that it is an option again.

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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2023, 08:54:43 AM »
I’ve done several long trips on Amtrak and I’d suggest doing a short one first to make sure that you actually can sleep in coach. I’m a fussy sleeper, and it did not work for me, so I know to work around that.

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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2023, 09:01:10 AM »
I’ve done several long trips on Amtrak and I’d suggest doing a short one first to make sure that you actually can sleep in coach. I’m a fussy sleeper, and it did not work for me, so I know to work around that.


This is a really good point. I napped just fine in coach with a neck pillow and a blanket, but my husband, also a fussy sleeper, could not.


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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2023, 09:14:58 AM »
Yeah, we rent roomettes on the A->B 30+ hour routes. The time passes really fast, even when you're not sleeping. As Fru-Gal mentioned, you watch, you talk, you read, and you just relax. It's an awesome way to travel.


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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2023, 09:44:39 AM »
I'm very impressed and happy for you, OP!

I don't sleep so well outside of my bed. I would love to take a trip across the Rockies on the train in a roomette, but they're so expensive! For example, Chicago to Emeryville one-way (or the reverse) is over $1000 for two people in a roomette for random dates I checked in January/February. I assume that's the going price for most dates. Granted, that's two days of travel time with meals included, but I would love to spend less. Anyone have any tips?


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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2023, 09:54:26 AM »
I'm very impressed and happy for you, OP!

I don't sleep so well outside of my bed. I would love to take a trip across the Rockies on the train in a roomette, but they're so expensive! For example, Chicago to Emeryville one-way (or the reverse) is over $1000 for two people in a roomette for random dates I checked in January/February. I assume that's the going price for most dates. Granted, that's two days of travel time with meals included, but I would love to spend less. Anyone have any tips?

The Amtrak credit card bonus will get you there and Player 2's card will get you back.

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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2023, 10:08:20 AM »
Yes, roomettes are expensive and the Zephyr especially is an in-demand route which is why they sell out. I got a roomette for just $20 over the cost of coach on the Zephyr using Bid Up, Amtrak’s option to bid any amount to upgrade (only when roomettes are available). Also, day of week and time of year may affect pricing.

Note that the cost of the roomette only goes up by the cost of the coach ticket for the 2nd person.

But you really have to factor in the true alternative (driving, not flying) to realize it’s still cheaper:

Driving: gas, hotel, food, wear and tear, risk of accident
Amtrak: 2 people food/lodging + beautiful & relaxing experience of slow travel

It takes time to get used to the freedom of car-free travel. People worry about how to get places in town, but you have so many options including taxi/Lyft/Uber, micro mobility like city bikes and scooters (I use these a ton and they are fun but NOT cheap), walking/jogging, transit/bus/metro.

I’m still building up Amtrak credit card points but am well on my way to having lots of free travel. (You can’t buy the Rail Pass with points, but you do get points from buying it.)

What is Player 2 card?
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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2023, 10:10:52 AM »
Oh, another suggestion: for a newbie who doesn’t sleep well outside your bed, I’d get off the train in a cute town somewhere and break up the long trip across the west.

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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2023, 10:16:03 AM »
FYI I just priced Emeryville-Chicago on the Zephyr for 2 people at $915 on Jan 25. But as Spring approaches the price goes up considerably!

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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2023, 10:57:24 AM »
What is Player 2 card?

Spouse, partner, SO, traveling companion.

A Jan 25th roomette is 37k points. The card bonus + some spend would just be enough.

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« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2023, 07:01:45 PM »
The Amtrak credit card bonus will get you there and Player 2's card will get you back.

Yes, true (almost, as you show above), but I'll have to break out spreadsheet to see if it's worth spending a 5/24 slot.

I got a roomette for just $20 over the cost of coach on the Zephyr using Bid Up, Amtrak’s option to bid any amount to upgrade (only when roomettes are available). Also, day of week and time of year may affect pricing.

Note that the cost of the roomette only goes up by the cost of the coach ticket for the 2nd person.

This is the sort of tip I'm looking for! Can you say more about this? What is the process like, how long was the journey that you upgraded, what time of year were you traveling (was this on your 30 day pass that you just used?), when did you find out your bid won?

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« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2023, 08:02:50 PM »
30 day pass is coach only, no upgrades.

Bid Up is a process that lets you bid any amount. On a previous trip (not this 30 day trip) I bid the minimum amount on a whim. A few days later I learned that I got the upgrade and it was AMAZING. I slept like a baby in the roomette. It was on the Zephyr as I said. However, going back, I tried the same trick as soon as Bid Up became available to me and it did not work. So I was slightly sad and bitter about my fate.

Most don’t recommend going with a minimum bid like I did, BTW. As I recall, there were a few empty roomettes that trip so clearly they were trying to fill them.

However, now as a wise old 30-day-pass veteran, I can say that I no longer *need* a roomette. But it is an undeniably nice luxury.

https://www.amtrak.com/bidup

https://www.cntraveler.com/story/how-to-use-amtrak-bidup#

A strategy that some people use, and that I was considering for this trip before the cost got prohibitively out of control (because I did everything last minute), is to buy roomette tickets separately for a few legs of the trip just to have a break from coach. Of course, roomettes only make sense for an overnight trip. Otherwise, you spend a ton of time in the observation car or the cafe car or the dining car and a roomette isn’t really necessary.
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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2023, 07:50:20 AM »
Your “bid up” reminded me about a Spirit Airlines hack. They will invite you to bid for the “big front seat” and recommend an amount. When they do that, you can go to their site and look at seats and outright buy the seat for usually $2 over the cheapest bid on their dial. I love that feature.

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« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2023, 08:51:56 AM »
They email you with the bid up opportunity a few days beforehand.

We took the Zephyr to Denver and back in September and I had to play around with the dates, as some of them had no rooms available as early as June.

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« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2023, 02:40:56 PM »
What was the overall cost?

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« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2023, 03:39:52 PM »
The ticket costs $500 or $300 when on sale. The overall cost was the cost of hotel rooms, occasional city bikes, and food for one person for 30 days. I also stayed with friends & family and at hostels. So really all that comes out to however you like to live. I don’t drink and don’t like constantly eating at restaurants. Through my Amtrak card I also get rebates on Amtrak food, which is not bad at all.

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« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2023, 06:22:11 PM »
A bonus to all this is that you emitted about half the CO2 you would have had you traveled via plane.

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« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2023, 08:23:40 PM »
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A bonus to all this is that you emitted about half the CO2 you would have had you traveled via plane.

Absolutely — that was one of my reasons for doing it! Plus, traveling on a train is a pleasant, leisurely, and friendly experience.

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« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2024, 10:59:28 AM »
I am lucky to live in a tiny midwest town where the Amtrak train stops. I’ve been thinking about taking the train to Chicago sometime this year.

We have had friends hop on the train in their coty and come here, stay for the day, and return on the early evening train.

Trains are fun!.

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« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2024, 02:04:09 PM »
About 10-15 years ago, my MIL and her best friend took the train cross country.  Their itinerary, roughly:

1. Schenectady to Chicago.  Spend a night in Chicago.
2. Chicago to Montana.  Stay a couple of nights with a friend in Montana.
3. Montana to Oregon.  Best friend's kid and grandkids in Oregon.  Spend a few days there.
4. Oregon to Santa Barbara.  Spend a few days with us here.
5. Fly home.

I think their tickets were $400 each, and were coach.

Right after that trip, my family and I took a train to Santa Fe, NM (well,  Lamy).  Coach.  It wasn't great.  It was Christmas, and cold, and we were next to the door, which opened and closed all night long.  Last winter we visted our friends in NM again and I looked into the train, again, but roommettes.  Wanted to be more enviro friendly.  Well, it was just so much cheaper and more convenient to fly.  We've taken the train back home a couple of times, from NW PA to Albany, but it's a pain 'cuz the train leaves at 7 am.

But depending on where DS17 ends up in college, trains are totally do-able.  San Diego, Davis, San Jose, SLO...

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« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2024, 03:43:59 PM »
This got me inspired as I'm traveling across the country in June.  I can't sleep sitting up though so I looked up roomette costs, and its $5000 there and back(!!!).  That's not very practical, unfortunately.  We have a camper van so we will probably just drive, but the train sounded like fun.

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« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2024, 05:29:14 PM »
My ticket from Denver to SLC was only $60 or so and there were plenty of seats and fabulous views in late October. Train leaves Denver in the morning and arrives in SLC around 11pm. One of the prettiest rides in the world and you go through parts of the Rockies you wouldn’t see on the main highways. Highly recommend!

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« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2024, 08:37:40 PM »
My ticket from Denver to SLC was only $60 or so and there were plenty of seats and fabulous views in late October. Train leaves Denver in the morning and arrives in SLC around 11pm. One of the prettiest rides in the world and you go through parts of the Rockies you wouldn’t see on the main highways. Highly recommend!

Good to know. The affordable Calgary to Vancouver train trips of my childhood have been turned into a shameless gouge-fest by the Rocky Mountaineer. (prices start at double the quote for the US rockies trip at $2K for two people, two nights... and doesn't even include dinner.) I could rant about how seeing Banff by train ought to be a national birthright for all Canadians, but I think I'll put the energy into planning US train trips instead.

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« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2024, 08:54:40 PM »
But you don’t have to take the Rocky Mountaineer.

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« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2024, 09:32:29 AM »
FYI the USA rail pass is on sale through 1/25 for $50 discount, so $449! That’s $45 per travel segment. Even at $500 it’s an incredible deal. Pass is valid 120 days after purchase. Coach only.

https://www.amtrak.com/tickets/departure-rail-pass.html

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« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2024, 12:13:36 AM »
My ticket from Denver to SLC was only $60 or so and there were plenty of seats and fabulous views in late October. Train leaves Denver in the morning and arrives in SLC around 11pm. One of the prettiest rides in the world and you go through parts of the Rockies you wouldn’t see on the main highways. Highly recommend!
Really? Very tempting - going to add this as part of my possibilities for the future. I’ve wanted to go to Utah to hike for 10+ years now but always found plane tickets too pricey. I could fly to Denver pretty cheaply, then hop on a train to SLC.

Hmmm…maybe next year.


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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2024, 12:48:37 PM »
I'm from the UK and was lucky enough to do this for three months back in the late 90's when I finished Uni. I started in New York City and travelled clockwise taking in parts of Canada too. Travelling by train is charming and I loved the people I got to speak to. Everyone was so friendly to me, although the novelty of my accent probably helped!

I can still remember my route now so engrained is the experience in my memory.
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NYC, Washington DC, Atlanta, Orlando, New Orleans, Denver, Flagstaff (Grand Canyon), LA, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Vancouver, Chicago, Buffalo & Niagara, Toronto, Montreal, Boston, NYC

I would definitely recommend this to anyone thinking about it and am glad the OP had such a good time.

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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2024, 12:50:15 PM »
My ticket from Denver to SLC was only $60 or so and there were plenty of seats and fabulous views in late October. Train leaves Denver in the morning and arrives in SLC around 11pm. One of the prettiest rides in the world and you go through parts of the Rockies you wouldn’t see on the main highways. Highly recommend!
Really? Very tempting - going to add this as part of my possibilities for the future. I’ve wanted to go to Utah to hike for 10+ years now but always found plane tickets too pricey. I could fly to Denver pretty cheaply, then hop on a train to SLC.

Hmmm…maybe next year.


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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #41 on: January 21, 2024, 12:53:02 PM »
My ticket from Denver to SLC was only $60 or so and there were plenty of seats and fabulous views in late October. Train leaves Denver in the morning and arrives in SLC around 11pm. One of the prettiest rides in the world and you go through parts of the Rockies you wouldn’t see on the main highways. Highly recommend!
Really? Very tempting - going to add this as part of my possibilities for the future. I’ve wanted to go to Utah to hike for 10+ years now but always found plane tickets too pricey. I could fly to Denver pretty cheaply, then hop on a train to SLC.

Hmmm…maybe next year.


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The Moab meetup is calling you!

I'm not sure I'm going to make it this year.  But there is a SMALL chance I might be feeling the need to take a road trip in late August/early September, and I am toying with the idea of driving out to CMTO, then back via Moab.  If that happens and you are also in the mood for a road trip, let's talk!
Oh wow - this could be a trip in the making. I could travel with you to Moab after CMTO and then train+fly back to Detroit.

U got me thinking here…


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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2024, 10:48:35 PM »
This is super interesting I have never considered taking the Amtrak, but I have taken public transportation my entire life.

Will have to look into this further. How much space did you have to bring on luggage?

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« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2024, 06:43:16 AM »
This is super interesting I have never considered taking the Amtrak, but I have taken public transportation my entire life.

Will have to look into this further. How much space did you have to bring on luggage?

N=1, but on my recent trip from Denver to SLC (highly recommend ANYBODY using this pass book a leg on that route, BTW) I checked my bag for free.  But there are places at the end of the cars for larger luggage, and smaller luggage racks above the seats.

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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2024, 08:01:16 AM »
You have TONS of baggage space and there is essentially no weight limit or number of bags limit (I mean, officially there is) so long as you can lift it and get it on the train. There is no TSA or baggage security. (I traveled with an incredibly heavy rolling bag, plus another heavy frame bag and a small backpack. Basically I would never be allowed on a plane with that much shit LOL)

As @lhamo said, there are multiple racks both above your seat and at the ends of cars and on the lower levels by the doors in the double decker trains (all trains west of Chicago).

You can also check bags if you don’t want to deal with them. On long distance trains you can box and check your bike, BUT that requires getting on and off at full support stations where they open the baggage car. Pro tip: If an option to include a bike is not appearing on your booking, that’s the reason. Change your itinerary and it should be fixed, or call Amtrak for help. Also, commuter trains always allow bikes, no need to pre-arrange it. You can also take e-bikes on Amtrak (I’ve done it, it was awesome).

(Mind blowing to me, you can also take dogs! A man wearing a top hat and checking an entire Trader Joe’s worth of shopping bags onto a long distance train boarded with TWO perfectly behaved pit bulls with ropes around their necks who slept under his seat. He was also on my Amtrak bus connection. I was like HOw… Wha… WHY CAN’T MY DOGS BE THIS QUIET. Apparently the limit for dogs is 7 hours, makes sense.)

Amtrak is back to pre-pandemic rider levels on all long-distance trains so give yourself enough time to book!

I traveled over 6k miles on Amtrak last year!!!! It is truly my happy place.
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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #45 on: January 25, 2024, 07:58:20 AM »
You definitely sell it well! The Amtrak sounds more tempting all the time. I did discover that Utah to Detroit one way is a mere $160. I honestly never expected it to be that inexpensive.

I did one longer train journey (16hrs each way for just a long weekend!) once in Canada and it was definitely way less taxing that being in a car / bus / plane for the same amount of time.


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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #46 on: January 25, 2024, 08:21:38 AM »
I think people on Amtrak may also generally be friendlier/more open to conversation than other types of travel.  The guy assigned the seat next to mine was a real chatty Kathy and a character.  Totally different from me -- Republican (though fairly moderate), raised in Utah but not Mormon (I had just started diving into the ex-Mo world at that point and he had some interesting insights), had worked blue collar jobs all his life before retiring and moving to Tennessee.  He was on his way back to Utah to help an aging sister who was ill.  He wanted to talk about EVERYTHING!  It got a bit overwhelming at one point so I moved up to the observation deck -- but then ended up meeting/chatting with a bunch of interesting people up there, too.  Anyway, there is something about that particular trip that seems to make people want to chat.  It is a long day -- over 12 hours from Denver to SLC -- and the scenery is gorgeous for most of it, but there are parts where you aren't seeing much and it is nice to get to know people.

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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #47 on: January 25, 2024, 08:34:04 AM »
Absolutely, people on the long-distance trains are friendly and talkative. You also have community seating for meals so automatically you will sit with strangers and in EVERY case I have had wonderful conversations. People are so much more interesting than our stereotypes make them seem. I have met many interesting military people who turn out to have such nuanced views of the world. One was a military veterinarian, in his 30s. I would have assumed he was some kind of super white bread guy by his looks but his musical and artistic tastes were so diverse and like all military I have met he knew a ton about the world (“join the Army: travel the world, meet interesting people, and kill them”).

BUT my rule is NO POLITICS, NO RELIGION. It’s so easy to avoid, and most do. But occasionally you will overhear someone holding forth on either of these topics. You can sort of dance around it and get to some super interesting conversations but flat out Republican/Democrat or “do you follow Jesus” are best avoided.

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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #48 on: January 25, 2024, 09:30:16 AM »
Awesome. I've ridden certain Amtrak routes regularly at times in my life (home from college, now to DC) plus some intracity Europe trips, but I have only dreamed of a long distance trip. I felt so cosmopolitan when I would switch from Metra to Amtrak at Chicago Union Station and knew all the shortcuts. Also, sometimes my Amtrak ticket was cheaper than my commuter rail ticket!

Agree that one can be wary but not turn your nose up at the connector buses. I now have a 4 hour bus to a 5 hour train to DC and the bus is a typical clean and comfortable charter and I get a lot more work done than if I was driving or flying.

I'd love to take my kids too, but I can't weigh 5 tickets compared to a road trip in our old van.

Also, they are at least a decade out, but plans for some high speed rail and new passenger connections were recently funded.

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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #49 on: January 25, 2024, 09:44:25 AM »
Yeah, it’s a whole thing getting into how to pay for an entire family. My strategy for the last year or so is racking up points with my Amtrak credit card. I also will join the US Rail Passengers association for 10% off. There are also child, student and senior discounts.

When we were poor even local travel was too rich for us on Amtrak, so we’d pile into the ancient car and risk our lives on the road. Only ever did local (2-3 hour) trips 2 or 3 times when the kids were little. But now I have enough points to pay for everyone to do those trips that would have cost over $100 round trip but were “only” $50 in gas and tolls and destruction of Mother Earth LOL!

My kids would hate me for it (they were teen/preteen at the time), supposedly, but I could tell they loved it. Now older kid has moved out and tells me that the sound of distant Amtrak horns in the apartment gives a warm feeling!

And hoping to have enough to pay for some 6-12 hour trips in the near future for the whole family. That’s my goal for this year, a bike and/or backpacking Amtrak trip to a national park in our state for the 4 of us, paid with points.