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« Reply #150 on: August 10, 2020, 05:20:48 PM »

Mine costs more like $0.04 in water and $0.03 in sewer fees per flush at the base rate, plus the $0.10 of nutrients in the pee going to waste.


$40 per 1,000 gallons for water, and $30 per 1,000 for sewer?  That seems exceptionally high.  Typical rates in our area are more like $4 per thousand for water.  Depending on type of sewer system, sewer could be $2 to $15 per thousand.

Yea, Portland has really expensive water and sewer (to pay off this project), but combined it is $17.14/CCF or $0.023/gal.

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« Reply #151 on: August 11, 2020, 10:42:13 AM »
Following on from this Deeply intellectual topic, I think it’s the done thing to throw lime into the pit latrine or petrol and burn .....I hate to admit that I studied a module on effluent in 96

Septic tank freezing? Add salt every 3 days during cold....or antifreeze....have I gone too far?....lol

If the tank is truly septic the decomposition will keep it warm and prevent freezing if it's below ground. If you vent it back through the pipe and out the roof of the house the warm gasses will keep the buried pipes from freezing. My father (who sees -60 F every winter) built his that way thirty plus years ago and it only froze the first winter when there was not enough decomposing material to keep it warm... We had to snake a steam line through the pipe to melt it back out. Some things are just burned into my memory...


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« Reply #152 on: August 11, 2020, 10:47:24 AM »

Mine costs more like $0.04 in water and $0.03 in sewer fees per flush at the base rate, plus the $0.10 of nutrients in the pee going to waste.


$40 per 1,000 gallons for water, and $30 per 1,000 for sewer?  That seems exceptionally high.  Typical rates in our area are more like $4 per thousand for water.  Depending on type of sewer system, sewer could be $2 to $15 per thousand.

Yea, Portland has really expensive water and sewer (to pay off this project), but combined it is $17.14/CCF or $0.023/gal.

The froze pipes I mentioned we more of  problem in the village I lived in a few years ago. The permafrost meant no septic systems so they had engineered above ground treatment systems and despite the foot of insulation on the pipes some of them froze up every winter. Water was $.06 if you were on the pipe system and $.08 per gallon if it was hauled the house by truck. Electricity to run the treatment system was $.67/kwh. It really did save money to pee in the back yard there...

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« Reply #153 on: August 12, 2020, 10:05:56 AM »

Mine costs more like $0.04 in water and $0.03 in sewer fees per flush at the base rate, plus the $0.10 of nutrients in the pee going to waste.


$40 per 1,000 gallons for water, and $30 per 1,000 for sewer?  That seems exceptionally high.  Typical rates in our area are more like $4 per thousand for water.  Depending on type of sewer system, sewer could be $2 to $15 per thousand.

Yea, Portland has really expensive water and sewer (to pay off this project), but combined it is $17.14/CCF or $0.023/gal.

The froze pipes I mentioned we more of  problem in the village I lived in a few years ago. The permafrost meant no septic systems so they had engineered above ground treatment systems and despite the foot of insulation on the pipes some of them froze up every winter. Water was $.06 if you were on the pipe system and $.08 per gallon if it was hauled the house by truck. Electricity to run the treatment system was $.67/kwh. It really did save money to pee in the back yard there...

Wow, $0.67/kWh! Just signed a new 9 month contract with our supplier for $0.061/kWH.

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« Reply #154 on: August 12, 2020, 01:15:50 PM »

Mine costs more like $0.04 in water and $0.03 in sewer fees per flush at the base rate, plus the $0.10 of nutrients in the pee going to waste.


$40 per 1,000 gallons for water, and $30 per 1,000 for sewer?  That seems exceptionally high.  Typical rates in our area are more like $4 per thousand for water.  Depending on type of sewer system, sewer could be $2 to $15 per thousand.

Yea, Portland has really expensive water and sewer (to pay off this project), but combined it is $17.14/CCF or $0.023/gal.

The froze pipes I mentioned we more of  problem in the village I lived in a few years ago. The permafrost meant no septic systems so they had engineered above ground treatment systems and despite the foot of insulation on the pipes some of them froze up every winter. Water was $.06 if you were on the pipe system and $.08 per gallon if it was hauled the house by truck. Electricity to run the treatment system was $.67/kwh. It really did save money to pee in the back yard there...

Wow, $0.67/kWh! Just signed a new 9 month contract with our supplier for $0.061/kWH.

It was an interesting combination of the high cost of shipping fuel out for the generators and oddly enough a financial benefit to the city of high prices.

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« Reply #155 on: August 13, 2020, 04:14:17 PM »
Toilet flushes are the highest residential water use (24%), so this is actually a big deal. Your urine is also full of nitrogen and a very good fertilizer.

Consider getting (or building) a urine-diverting composting toilet if you want to make this more... palatable.

I wouldn't suggest building an outhouse because there are some health ramifications to just pooping in a hole without letting the poo compost properly first.

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« Reply #156 on: November 02, 2020, 07:35:05 AM »
Peeing outside is a great thing to do, at least during spring and summer. When I was a child, my grandpa showed me that I can freely pee on the the compost heap, and it was fun :) But anyway, you can save water and electricity even if you use the toilet inside, so it's really not worth peeing outside if you are not fond of the idea.

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« Reply #157 on: November 02, 2020, 03:08:46 PM »
Don’t forget...it’s a natures way of claiming territory lol

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« Reply #158 on: November 02, 2020, 10:47:52 PM »
Don’t forget...it’s a natures way of claiming territory lol

I wish it worked with the deer and bears that visit our yard.  It doesn't.

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« Reply #159 on: November 03, 2020, 05:30:19 AM »
Don’t forget...it’s a natures way of claiming territory lol

I wish it worked with the deer and bears that visit our yard.  It doesn't.

Try peeing directly on them to show you mean business.

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« Reply #160 on: November 03, 2020, 07:44:58 AM »
Don’t forget...it’s a natures way of claiming territory lol

I wish it worked with the deer and bears that visit our yard.  It doesn't.

Try peeing directly on them to show you mean business.

This is a mustachian side hustle too . . . as if you video tape it, there's likely a market for it somewhere on the internet.

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« Reply #161 on: November 03, 2020, 03:00:27 PM »
Don’t forget...it’s a natures way of claiming territory lol

I wish it worked with the deer and bears that visit our yard.  It doesn't.

Hey I’d love a video of that

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« Reply #162 on: December 30, 2020, 06:33:31 AM »
I am amazed at the number of people who think this is so normal and even do it themselves. Wow! You all are probably the same men that clip their freaking fingernails at work! 🤢
Sorry Karen but I do all my bodily functions on the clock. It's just good financial hygiene.

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Razor: Check
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Baby wipes for quick bathing: Check
Extra pair of socks for when I wash mine in the sink: Check

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« Reply #163 on: December 30, 2020, 02:11:40 PM »
I am amazed at the number of people who think this is so normal and even do it themselves. Wow! You all are probably the same men that clip their freaking fingernails at work! 🤢
Sorry Karen but I do all my bodily functions on the clock. It's just good financial hygiene.

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Extra pair of socks for when I wash mine in the sink: Check

Dude.  That's gross.

Wash your socks in the office coffee pot.  The water in the sink doesn't get hot enough to sterilize them.



Geeze, some people . . .

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« Reply #164 on: December 30, 2020, 04:14:14 PM »
I am amazed at the number of people who think this is so normal and even do it themselves. Wow! You all are probably the same men that clip their freaking fingernails at work! 🤢
Sorry Karen but I do all my bodily functions on the clock. It's just good financial hygiene.

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Razor: Check
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Baby wipes for quick bathing: Check
Extra pair of socks for when I wash mine in the sink: Check

Dude.  That's gross.

Wash your socks in the office coffee pot.  The water in the sink doesn't get hot enough to sterilize them.



Geeze, some people . . .

Wish I could, but these darn Keurigs have taken over.

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« Reply #165 on: December 30, 2020, 04:43:35 PM »
Forget bout washing them.....just stick In hot press for a week and the smell goes away

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« Reply #166 on: December 31, 2020, 01:20:54 AM »
Not mustachian, but works for Harrison Ford

https://youtu.be/D1Gjm17WibU?t=70s

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« Reply #167 on: January 02, 2021, 09:34:59 AM »
You should pee and poop in the shower, save on water AND toilet paper.

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« Reply #168 on: January 02, 2021, 11:35:06 AM »
Ew.

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« Reply #169 on: January 02, 2021, 01:58:10 PM »
I’ll call a plumber right now!

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« Reply #170 on: January 03, 2021, 06:06:43 PM »
You should pee and poop in the shower, save on water AND toilet paper.

Add in a disposal so it goes down easier, and I think you're on the right track.

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« Reply #171 on: January 03, 2021, 07:05:55 PM »
Ew ew.

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« Reply #172 on: January 03, 2021, 08:30:36 PM »
You should pee and poop in the shower, save on water AND toilet paper.

Add in a disposal so it goes down easier, and I think you're on the right track.

And maybe take a look at the “Six Chemicals to Clean a House” thread.

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« Reply #173 on: January 04, 2021, 07:37:38 AM »
You should pee and poop in the shower, save on water AND toilet paper.

Add in a disposal so it goes down easier, and I think you're on the right track.

And maybe take a look at the “Six Chemicals to Clean a House” thread.

The disposal is called a 'macerator' in that application.

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« Reply #174 on: January 04, 2021, 09:01:39 AM »
The savings will really start to pile up!

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« Reply #175 on: January 04, 2021, 01:35:21 PM »
you need a proportiional volume of water to macerator a solid into a flowing liquidised solution, for disposal, unless you pump it....(the fact that im evening considering the engineer aspect of this has caused me to question my own sanity now....I was ok before I joined the MMM forum).....

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« Reply #176 on: January 04, 2021, 01:44:40 PM »
The savings will really start to pile up!

HA!!!!

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« Reply #177 on: January 04, 2021, 01:45:36 PM »
you need a proportiional volume of water to macerator a solid into a flowing liquidised solution, for disposal, unless you pump it....(the fact that im evening considering the engineer aspect of this has caused me to question my own sanity now....I was ok before I joined the MMM forum).....

As I clicked this thread (instead of telling my kids to get a snack and start their homework) I also thought, what am I doing with my life?

Time to sign off.

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« Reply #178 on: January 05, 2021, 02:13:48 AM »
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« Reply #179 on: January 07, 2021, 03:05:55 PM »
I think we’ve all lost the plot

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« Reply #180 on: January 07, 2021, 03:34:15 PM »
I think we’ve all lost the plot
There was a plot?

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« Reply #184 on: January 08, 2021, 01:32:43 AM »
I think we’ve all lost the plot
There was a plot?

Yes.  The OP peed on it.

But then the plot thickened.......
Shouldn’t it thin with the addition of liquid? Unless OP lives somewhere cold...

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« Reply #185 on: January 08, 2021, 03:20:01 AM »
I think we’ve all lost the plot
There was a plot?

Yes.  The OP peed on it.

But then the plot thickened.......
Shouldn’t it thin with the addition of liquid? Unless OP lives somewhere cold...

Indeed. But anything can happen if the Ice Age comes to the AcreAge with the SewAge....

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« Reply #186 on: January 08, 2021, 10:03:49 AM »
I think we’ve all lost the plot
There was a plot?

Yes.  The OP peed on it.

But then the plot thickened.......
Shouldn’t it thin with the addition of liquid? Unless OP lives somewhere cold...

Indeed. But anything can happen if the Ice Age comes to the AcreAge with the SewAge....

People say that if you pee outside at -60 it will freeze before it hits the ground. This is actually an exaggeration. It is however a bit brisk...

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« Reply #187 on: January 08, 2021, 01:08:18 PM »
I think we’ve all lost the plot
There was a plot?

Yes.  The OP peed on it.

But then the plot thickened.......
Shouldn’t it thin with the addition of liquid? Unless OP lives somewhere cold...

Indeed. But anything can happen if the Ice Age comes to the AcreAge with the SewAge....

People say that if you pee outside at -60 it will freeze before it hits the ground. This is actually an exaggeration. It is however a bit brisk...

Frostbite?

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« Reply #188 on: January 08, 2021, 01:25:17 PM »
Frostbite?

Thankfully it doesn't take me that long to pee.

Incidentally if you throw a cup of boiling water into the air at those temps it will flash to steam and the cloud will form snow so the myth is not totally without merit. It's important for the water to be much hotter than body temperature though.

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« Reply #189 on: January 08, 2021, 01:35:05 PM »
I've peed outside at -40 and it didn't freeze before hitting the ground.  You definitely want to be sheltered from the wind though . . .

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« Reply #190 on: January 08, 2021, 01:56:34 PM »
Frostbite?

Thankfully it doesn't take me that long to pee.

Incidentally if you throw a cup of boiling water into the air at those temps it will flash to steam and the cloud will form snow so the myth is not totally without merit. It's important for the water to be much hotter than body temperature though.

It will work with body temperature using the secret is to aerosolize it first

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« Reply #191 on: January 08, 2021, 02:12:16 PM »
So, if we dilute, macerate and/ or vaporize to a fine mist, all bases are covered at most temperatures and moustaches ca be twirled with a fine sense of achievement??

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« Reply #192 on: January 08, 2021, 06:10:44 PM »
I've been thinking way too much about this.  I think the simple solution is to not let your wife watch you pee if it bugs her.  What am I missing?

Plant a bush?  Don't whip it out in front of her and the neighbors?

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« Reply #193 on: January 09, 2021, 01:44:48 PM »
I've been thinking way too much about this.  I think the simple solution is to not let your wife watch you pee if it bugs her.

You'll need about three feet of tubing, a plastic cup with a hole in the bottom, duct tape, and loose fitting pants/underwear.  Then it should be possible to surreptitiously urinate just about anywhere.

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« Reply #194 on: January 10, 2021, 02:17:44 AM »
I've been thinking way too much about this.  I think the simple solution is to not let your wife watch you pee if it bugs her.

You'll need about three feet of tubing, a plastic cup with a hole in the bottom, duct tape, and loose fitting pants/underwear.  Then it should be possible to surreptitiously urinate just about anywhere.


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« Reply #195 on: January 10, 2021, 11:54:03 AM »
So that's what golf towels are for!  I always wondered why they called a washrag a towel for golf.  Got it.