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I pee in backyard to save water. Wife hates me for it.
« on: April 28, 2020, 08:45:23 PM »
Yes, I pee in our backyard to save water. It's 100% private and large enough that it doesn't leave a smell. I've probably peed around every perimeter of our backyard by now, kind of like marking a territory. No, I don't do #2 there.

My wife hates me for it because it's disgusting apparently. But why not? It's so easy. Just open the door and walk there like she walks to her bathroom.

How crazy am I into this frugality?

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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2020, 10:15:20 PM »
Why don't you just "If it's yellow, let it mellow?" Or owe in the sink and then wash your hands? Your way, how many things do you touch before you get to running water to wash your hands?

Given that there are multiple better solutions, I think you just like peeing outdoors and are trying to justify it.

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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2020, 10:31:47 PM »
My husband did this for a moment in one of a series of failed attempts to ward of neighborhood raccoons. I was mildly amused but apparently your wife has a different opinion. There isn’t a “right” here but marital harmony is something very important. There are plenty of people here who can tell you that divorce will derail your FIRE plans much faster than a SO’s quirky indulgence or, in this case, opinion about your own money-saving (?) habit.

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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2020, 12:55:50 AM »
How about peeing on the compost heap only, as a compromise?

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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2020, 01:08:42 AM »
Hell yeah I do it.  Why waste precious nitrogen?  My wife is already mad that I have a pile of detritus down the hill so why not pee on it if I'm working in the yard?  It's not compost per se, but it'll get there eventually.

Been doing this for a long time though.  Nothing like a nice outside pee in the cool fall air, looking up at the stars.

Sometimes my dog gets mad and marks on top of it.

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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2020, 01:24:10 AM »
Your pee will not hurt most plants, even citrus trees if they get too much nitrogen.
And your wife is probably not accepting you using the yard as a toilet, out of fear of what other bright idea you might come up with!

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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2020, 08:43:12 AM »
Is your water bill above the minimum charge?  My wife's grandfather used to only allow the toilet in his house to be flushed once a day, thinking that this would reduce his bill.  He did save water.  We looked at his water/sewer bill.  He used less than half the minimum.  Great job (he say sarcastically).  Double the water use would have cost zero more.  Well, at least the house had that familiar aroma.

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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2020, 08:47:06 AM »
Is your water bill above the minimum charge?  My wife's grandfather used to only allow the toilet in his house to be flushed once a day, thinking that this would reduce his bill.  He did save water.  We looked at his water/sewer bill.  He used less than half the minimum.  Great job (he say sarcastically).  Double the water use would have cost zero more.  Well, at least the house had that familiar aroma.
While that 's obviously going a bit far, it's worth thinking about more than just the monetary incentives here. Reducing water use is good for the environment in various ways as well.

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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2020, 08:53:33 AM »
I’ve been pissing in the backyard for years.  DW doesn’t know, but she’d be upset if she found out.  I only do it at night on warm evenings when I take the dog out for his 10pm piss.  We have a pretty big yard and it’s very secluded so no one sees.  I’ve found that it doesn’t ruin the grass.  Also, we’ve had some pests (opossum under the deck, groundhog in the yard) and so I usually pee around the perimeter of the deck in hopes it might ward off animals.  Not sure if it really does anything but I haven’t noticed any critters in quite a while.

Thanks for posting, OP!  You’re not alone, brother!

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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2020, 09:20:35 AM »
I certainly don’t pee in the backyard to save money or water, but if I’m in the backyard and need to pee, it is a lot easier than going inside.

When I was growing up, I had to share a bathroom with my sister while getting ready for school in the morning. As a result, I had to pee outside because the bathroom has almost always occupied.

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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2020, 12:44:59 PM »
My husband and little boys do it while working outside in the garden.  Beats tracking in dirt to use the toilet.

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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2020, 12:56:44 PM »
 well this one caught my eye and made me laugh..yeah I do it too. We have 2 acres of private backyard and I'll do it when I'm way out back mowing or any other type of yard work. I don't do it to save money/water, I just do it to save the hassle of going up to the house, taking off shoes that are dirty and such....and also because I can.

Don't know if my wife even knows/cares, I don't think I've ever mentioned it.

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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2020, 01:00:35 PM »
My boys pee in the backyard more than we know I'm sure. I can vividly recall watching our toddler stand in the middle of the yard and pee in the back of his metal dump truck and then carefully tip it so all the pee ran out. We live in a two-story house in a typical suburban neighborhood so any of a half-dozen neighbors can potentially see into our backyard which is almost entirely dirt and gravel.

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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2020, 01:57:15 PM »
I remember my nephew exiting the (community) pool, and then peeing on the surrounding deck.  Yeah, no.   

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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2020, 01:59:44 PM »
I remember my nephew exiting the (community) pool, and then peeing on the surrounding deck.  Yeah, no.
Lol.  Would you have preferred he go in the community pool and just not tell anyone about it?

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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2020, 04:27:25 PM »
I remember my nephew exiting the (community) pool, and then peeing on the surrounding deck.  Yeah, no.
Lol.  Would you have preferred he go in the community pool and just not tell anyone about it?
I would have preferred he walk the 10' to the rest rooms, but that was not his style.  He's now a fireman, with a bigger hose. So to speak.

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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2020, 05:02:43 PM »
We've started doing this, after I read a blog post about how pee is an excellent nitrogen source. The money savings is not the point, I'm more about saving the resources that go into making potable water. 

I just pee in a bucket and dump it on the compost pile periodically. DH indulges my weird ideas and pees in the bucket too. Might have to quit in the summer if the odor starts being a problem but so far it's been fine.

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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2020, 05:11:54 PM »
Why no number 2s?

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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2020, 05:19:42 PM »
Ha if I dumped our #2s in the compost the raccoons would probably come running. Short answer: it has a higher "ew" factor and it would be more effort to do it safely.

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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2020, 05:32:51 PM »
Real mustachians only pee once a day, in the shower, allowing them to exercise their bladder muscles.

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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2020, 05:39:04 PM »
We had a hobby farm in the middle of nowhere, in a hot and dry environment.  I regularly peed outside, generally under any of the trees or in particular under the citrus.  I used to joke that "It's not real country unless you can pee off your own verandah and no one cares".  My wife thought it was a reasonable way to save water.

I might add that all our water cost. It was either pumped up from a bore at our expense, or collected in tanks that we had to pay for.  So every drop was worth saving.

I also don't really get the hygiene problem.  Urine is essentially sterile, unless you have a UTI, and when I pee I am handling nothing that is dirtier than, say, my knee.  Obviously I wash hands before food preparation or eating, but unless I touch a door handle in a toilet (that may have been handled by someone else who did two's) or the toilet itself, I don't see where I would get pathogens from.  It is probably cleaner to pee outside than use a toilet.

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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2020, 05:39:46 PM »
Real mustachians only pee once a day, in the shower, allowing them to exercise their bladder muscles.

Woah, you guys are taking showers?

Why no number 2s?

That would make the pool too cloudy

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« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2020, 05:41:27 PM »

I also don't really get the hygiene problem.

No health danger but it smells bad if it's left to decompose in a dry environment (rain or irrigation will nullify this).  I won't pee directly on non-irrigated plants because it does burn them.

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« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2020, 05:44:04 PM »
Real mustachians only pee once a day, in the shower, allowing them to exercise their bladder muscles.

Woah, you guys are taking showers?
Free showers at the beach park one block over, thanks taxpayers.

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« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2020, 05:52:49 PM »

I also don't really get the hygiene problem.

No health danger but it smells bad if it's left to decompose in a dry environment (rain or irrigation will nullify this).  I won't pee directly on non-irrigated plants because it does burn them.

Sometimes a dog peeing on the lawn seems to kill the lawn, other times it makes an especially green and lush patch. I suspect the difference is the frequency of watering to help dilute the nitrogen.

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« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2020, 05:54:21 PM »
This sounds like a good way to audition for extreme cheapskates. I never understood why that show seemed to revolve around all these dumb things of toilet use, toilet paper, plastic bags, searching for pennies, not using electricity. I mean, I like peeing in the yard to save time but it would never occur to me even that it saves money.

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« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2020, 11:56:05 PM »
I like peeing in the yard to save time

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« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2020, 10:55:10 AM »
We've started doing this, after I read a blog post about how pee is an excellent nitrogen source. The money savings is not the point, I'm more about saving the resources that go into making potable water. 

I just pee in a bucket and dump it on the compost pile periodically. DH indulges my weird ideas and pees in the bucket too. Might have to quit in the summer if the odor starts being a problem but so far it's been fine.

Same! It's the perfect DIY fertilizer, as long as you're healthy: http://nwedible.com/how-to-use-pee-in-your-garden/ I dilute with captured rainwater to fertilize plants.

And saves on sewage treatment: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/human-urine-is-an-effective-fertilizer/

So many benefits!

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« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2020, 11:17:41 AM »
One mosquito bite on the ass and that ends pretty quickly.

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« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2020, 11:34:10 AM »
I think peeing isn't the issue here, OP. The real question is why are you antagonizing your wife?  She shouldn't even be aware that you're doing this. Are you doing it where she can see? Are you talking about it, bragging even? Perhaps it isn't the actual pottying, it's the potty talk that's wearing on her. Of course, we only have your word that you're aggravating her and apparently enjoying it, but why do you seem so proud?

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« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2020, 11:42:07 AM »
Ha if I dumped our #2s in the compost the raccoons would probably come running. Short answer: it has a higher "ew" factor and it would be more effort to do it safely.

No need to dump in the compost.  Just drop 'em where you feel the need all over the property.  They'll decompose, just like your urine.  They're also an excellent source of nutrients for the soil.

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« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2020, 12:50:06 PM »
@Roots&Wings That's literally the post I was talking about. Erica is awesome, I am eternally hopeful that she will return to posting.

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« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2020, 01:22:58 PM »
Ha if I dumped our #2s in the compost the raccoons would probably come running. Short answer: it has a higher "ew" factor and it would be more effort to do it safely.

No need to dump in the compost.  Just drop 'em where you feel the need all over the property.  They'll decompose, just like your urine.  They're also an excellent source of nutrients for the soil.
I don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade here, but I think it is important not to take this too far. Plumbing and clean water are two huge developments that got us longer lifespans and let us skip on gruesome diseases. Hat is why there has been a big campaign in India to convince people to change the culture and do their business at a toilet and not out in the open.

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« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2020, 01:23:58 PM »
I think peeing isn't the issue here, OP. The real question is why are you antagonizing your wife?  She shouldn't even be aware that you're doing this. Are you doing it where she can see? Are you talking about it, bragging even? Perhaps it isn't the actual pottying, it's the potty talk that's wearing on her. Of course, we only have your word that you're aggravating her and apparently enjoying it, but why do you seem so proud?
And yes, this really is the heart of the matter. Whether it is good, bad, or ugly doesn’t matter if it antagonizes your wife.

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« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2020, 02:00:37 PM »
What is the cost of a divorce attorney?

Compare that to the savings from 20 years of peeing in the yard and see what the math tells you.

Also, could you perhaps pee in the toilet and not flush every time?  (Especially if you have more than one toilet so your wife can simply not use yours?

And do you actually head outside to pee, or do you just pee while you are out there?  IOW, It's 9pm and dark out.  You are reading your book in the cozy living room when you realize nature is calling.  You go outside for that?  If so, the cold air (or hot air in summer) you are letting in when you open and close the door twice is likely offsetting much of the already minuscule water savings, assuming you are heating or cooling or dehumidifying your home. 

Seems penny wise and pound foolish.  Or cheap instead of frugal, especially when you factor in the strife in your relationship.  Pee in the shower, pee in the yard if you are out there alone--no need to mention it to the wife, though don't lie about it, and the rest of the time, pay the few pennies and use the toilet.

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« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2020, 02:31:24 PM »
I get the sense that the "wife hates me" was a bit tongue in cheek, folks. Kind of like how I get annoyed when my husband reuses his bowl throughout the day and ends up eating his after-dinner fruit with residual stew residue on it. Makes me a little twitchy, but we both hate doing dishes so...

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« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2020, 03:16:07 PM »
I think peeing isn't the issue here, OP. The real question is why are you antagonizing your wife?  She shouldn't even be aware that you're doing this. Are you doing it where she can see? Are you talking about it, bragging even? Perhaps it isn't the actual pottying, it's the potty talk that's wearing on her. Of course, we only have your word that you're aggravating her and apparently enjoying it, but why do you seem so proud?

To assert dominance

Ha if I dumped our #2s in the compost the raccoons would probably come running. Short answer: it has a higher "ew" factor and it would be more effort to do it safely.

No need to dump in the compost.  Just drop 'em where you feel the need all over the property.  They'll decompose, just like your urine.  They're also an excellent source of nutrients for the soil.
I don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade here, but I think it is important not to take this too far. Plumbing and clean water are two huge developments that got us longer lifespans and let us skip on gruesome diseases. Hat is why there has been a big campaign in India to convince people to change the culture and do their business at a toilet and not out in the open.

There’s a big difference between peeing in a crowded urban environment and a large suburban lot.  I wouldn’t pee in a public space

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« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2020, 03:20:58 PM »
I think peeing isn't the issue here, OP. The real question is why are you antagonizing your wife?  She shouldn't even be aware that you're doing this. Are you doing it where she can see? Are you talking about it, bragging even? Perhaps it isn't the actual pottying, it's the potty talk that's wearing on her. Of course, we only have your word that you're aggravating her and apparently enjoying it, but why do you seem so proud?

To assert dominance

Ha if I dumped our #2s in the compost the raccoons would probably come running. Short answer: it has a higher "ew" factor and it would be more effort to do it safely.

No need to dump in the compost.  Just drop 'em where you feel the need all over the property.  They'll decompose, just like your urine.  They're also an excellent source of nutrients for the soil.
I don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade here, but I think it is important not to take this too far. Plumbing and clean water are two huge developments that got us longer lifespans and let us skip on gruesome diseases. Hat is why there has been a big campaign in India to convince people to change the culture and do their business at a toilet and not out in the open.

There’s a big difference between peeing in a crowded urban environment and a large suburban lot.  I wouldn’t pee in a public space

Yes, and urine (assuming you don't have a UTI or the like) is sterile. Fecal matter most decidedly is not.

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« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2020, 04:22:41 PM »
I just googled average water cost and average water used by toilets, and you're saving about 0.3 cents each time you pee outside. Is that worth pissing off your wife (no pun intended)? I would say no.

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« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2020, 04:46:46 PM »
I just googled average water cost and average water used by toilets, and you're saving about 0.3 cents each time you pee outside. Is that worth pissing off your wife (no pun intended)? I would say no.

The .3 cents is fine but pissing off the wife is priceless

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« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2020, 05:15:18 PM »
Don't let it go to waste, make sure you are pissing on a tree or plant.  It is great for fertilizer!  Try this in your newly planted garden.  Pick one tomato plant and piss on it.  The other just do as you normally would do.  You will be surprised of the results.  I have a persimmon tree I am doing but it is in view of the neighbor so I can only do at night.

Also pro trip.  Don't tell the wife which tomatoes that you are pissing on when brought into the house later this summer.

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« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2020, 06:18:06 PM »
Don't let it go to waste, make sure you are pissing on a tree or plant.  It is great for fertilizer!  Try this in your newly planted garden.  Pick one tomato plant and piss on it.  The other just do as you normally would do.  You will be surprised of the results.  I have a persimmon tree I am doing but it is in view of the neighbor so I can only do at night.
In these times of need, it's important to share the love around the community, don't forget to hydrate your neighbors' plants too.

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« Reply #42 on: May 01, 2020, 03:39:10 AM »
That's nothing--My buddy and I once busted into this one deadbeat's house and peed on his rug. 

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« Reply #43 on: May 01, 2020, 09:14:40 AM »
That's nothing--My buddy and I once busted into this one deadbeat's house and peed on his rug.

That rug really tied the room together!

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« Reply #44 on: May 02, 2020, 04:00:52 AM »
I do all the time because i drink to much coffee and to far to run to the bathroom all the time!

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« Reply #45 on: May 02, 2020, 06:12:13 AM »
@Roots&Wings That's literally the post I was talking about. Erica is awesome, I am eternally hopeful that she will return to posting.

I know, right? She used to post here regularly as Erica/NWEdible, but not for awhile. Saw her featured on "Growing a Greener World" not too long ago, which was fun to see.

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« Reply #46 on: May 03, 2020, 06:18:09 PM »
I am amazed at the number of people who think this is so normal and even do it themselves. Wow! You all are probably the same men that clip their freaking fingernails at work! 🤢

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« Reply #47 on: May 03, 2020, 06:31:26 PM »
I am amazed at the number of people who think this is so normal and even do it themselves. Wow! You all are probably the same men that clip their freaking fingernails at work! 🤢
Sorry Karen but I do all my bodily functions on the clock. It's just good financial hygiene.

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« Reply #48 on: May 03, 2020, 07:54:28 PM »
All I can say is, keep it in YOUR backyard.

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Re: I pee in backyard to save water. Wife hates me for it.
« Reply #49 on: May 03, 2020, 10:43:03 PM »
I am amazed at the number of people who think this is so normal and even do it themselves. Wow! You all are probably the same men that clip their freaking fingernails at work! 🤢
Sorry Karen but I do all my bodily functions on the clock. It's just good financial hygiene.

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