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I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« on: July 20, 2016, 06:11:09 AM »
I was going to just do the crew cut as I started to lose my hair, but my wife begged me to try Propecia.  This was 9-10 years ago.  For the first year I spent the $90/month on Propecia.  There had to be a better way.  My pharmacist clued me in on the fact that Propecia is just Finasteride, a drug commonly used to treat prostate issues.  1mg/day Propecia is $90/month.  5mg x 90 pills generic Finasteride can be had for $15.  You break the pill in half and take one half every other day.  Just have your doctor write a prescription for 90 pills, "use as directed."

But...insurance companies like to audit "use as directed" prescriptions.  So you don't go through insurance.  Use the Walgreen's prescription club that costs $20/year.  You will save that $20 if you have a family that gets more than a couple prescriptions each year anyway. 

So you get 1.25mg/day for a year for $15 rather than $1080.

Some might argue that a true Mustachian would not care about the balding...but if you are on the short end of a disproportionately attractive couple and it makes the wife happy...$15/year isn't going to delay your FIRE aspirations too bad.

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Re: I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2016, 06:15:36 AM »
I doubt that most people here will argue with an expense that increases your FIRE requirements by $375. Everyone has some vanity, but you are doing this for your wife. Way to save money!

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Re: I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2016, 10:28:37 AM »
Perhaps off-topic, but.. google post finasteride syndrome

I'd rather be bald than risk the side effects... Which, to be back on-topic, would be expensive to address.

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Re: I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2016, 11:01:54 AM »
Agree with MinLa . . . . Also, I just don't understand the stigma of being bald.

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Re: I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2016, 11:04:20 AM »
I was going to just do the crew cut as I started to lose my hair, but my wife begged me to try Propecia.  This was 9-10 years ago.  For the first year I spent the $90/month on Propecia.  There had to be a better way.  My pharmacist clued me in on the fact that Propecia is just Finasteride, a drug commonly used to treat prostate issues.  1mg/day Propecia is $90/month.  5mg x 90 pills generic Finasteride can be had for $15.  You break the pill in half and take one half every other day.  Just have your doctor write a prescription for 90 pills, "use as directed."

But...insurance companies like to audit "use as directed" prescriptions.  So you don't go through insurance.  Use the Walgreen's prescription club that costs $20/year.  You will save that $20 if you have a family that gets more than a couple prescriptions each year anyway. 

So you get 1.25mg/day for a year for $15 rather than $1080.

Some might argue that a true Mustachian would not care about the balding...but if you are on the short end of a disproportionately attractive couple and it makes the wife happy...$15/year isn't going to delay your FIRE aspirations too bad.

What a cute compliment :)

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Re: I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2016, 11:55:41 AM »
As someone who used Toppik to hide my baldness for years, I totally feel you, but don't underestimate how surprisingly easy it can actually be to just bite the bullet. I resisted for a long, long time, until I finally said "screw it" and buzzed it all off. I honestly think I get more appreciative looks from the ladies than I did before and despite my fears, the act of just going for it actually made me feel confident and unburdened in a way I didn't expect (which probably also contributes to an increase in my perceived attractiveness). I did have the advantage of a wife who was supportive. She would have been OK with me doing this a long time before I finally did.

That said, $15/year is certainly an insignificant expense. Nice work on finding such a cheap alternative!

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Re: I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2016, 12:02:18 PM »
I have been on Propecia/finasteride for at least 20 years.  I started out on Propecia, stayed with it until it went generic.  For the generic, I pay $21 for 90 days at Costco and insurance pays for it since it is finasteride, not Propecia.  Finasteride is also used to treat prostate issues so the insurance will cover the generic version.

I have a very lumpy head, I have no interest in going bald.

I have had very, very good results with Propecia/finasteride.

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Re: I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2016, 12:46:36 PM »
I as well am afflicted with a bumpy head that is also weirdly oblong.

Finasteride works great! I've been using a quarter of a 5mg pill for years at negligible cost.

I'm trying to convince my girlfriend to let me wear a really bad toupee. That would be the dream as it would also provide the sun protection of a hat.

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Re: I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2016, 01:44:26 PM »
My husband is quite bald and I think he's adorable.

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Re: I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2016, 07:58:34 PM »
My husband is quite bald and I think he's adorable.

Not all of us are blessed with smooth, adorably bald heads! Mine would be akin to the face of the moon if it were being pulled into an oblong shape along its axis by two equidistant black holes. I suppose beauty is subjective though.

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Re: I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2016, 11:17:41 AM »
To shave your head just buy a decent $50 pair of clippers.

Then rock that shit like Bruce Willis or Michael Jordan

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Re: I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2016, 11:55:09 AM »
LONG time lurker, first time poster. I am 26 and have been on finasteride for the past 3 years. Going bald is perfectly fine and normal, but it sure does suck to be a 20 year old with a combover.

It has been well documented that better looking individuals earn more than their "uglier" counter parts. Take a look around your office. Does it appear that many executives are above average height and have an above average amount of hair for someone their age? Finasteride is as an investment on my financial future.

For those who are hesitant to start because of side effects - speak to a doctor/dermatologist. I was very skeptical until I went to visit every dermatologist in my area. They reassured me that they had been prescribing finasteride for years and that they were unaware of any of their patients suffering from any persistent side effects.

I tried the clippers/shaving route. What a hassle. Every other day I have to spend 10-15 minutes cutting my hair and cleaning it up. It was a daily reminder that I was going bald. I found it to take a pill daily than to cut it three times a week.

For anyone under age 35 obsessing over hair loss I HIGHLY, HIGHLY recommend going to a doctor and learning about hair loss treatments. Finasteride had really helped me maximize my youth. Nothing is worse than being the old looking ugly friend at the bar. Don't be that guy!
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Re: I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2016, 12:10:59 PM »
LONG time lurker, first time poster. I am 26 and have been on finasteride for the past 3 years. Going bald is perfectly normal, but it sure does look funny when a 20 year old has a combover.

It has been well documented that better looking individuals earn more than their "uglier" counter parts. Take a look around your office. Does it appear that many executives are above average height and have an above average amount of hair for someone their age? I think of finasteride as an investment on my financial future.

For those who are hesitant to start because of side effects, speak to a doctor/dermatologist. I was very skeptical until I went and saw pretty much every dermatologist in my area. They all reassured me that they had been prescribing finasteride for years and that they were unaware of any of their patients suffering from any persisting side effects.

I tried the clippers/shaving route. What a hassle. Every other day I have to spend 10-15 minutes cutting my hair and cleaning it up. It was a daily reminder that I was going bald. I found it to be way more convenient to have hair than to cut it three times a week.

For anyone under age 35 obsessing over hair loss I HIGHLY, HIGHLY recommend going to a doctor and talking about hair loss treatments. Finasteride had really helped me maximize my youth. Nothing is worse than being the old looking ugly friend at the bar. Don't be that guy!

I appreciate your perspective and also those who feel their head shape is not conducive to baldness, although I bet many of you may look better that way than you think. I too began noticeably thinning in my mid 20s, so I can relate to your thoughts, but I can also promise you are worrying too much. Also, I find it strange that you think spending 10 minutes buzzing your hair a couple times a week is somehow more work than styling your hair every day.

Let's talk about looks versus dating success, earning potential, etc. First, of course there is such a thing as objective beauty, and objectively beautiful people generally have an advantage in many areas. It's also overrated. As any average to ugly guy who has found dating success can attest, confidence matters at least as much as facial symmetry and hair count. Get/stay in shape (guys can be butter faces too!), buzz that wispy shit off your head (for god's sake do NOT comb it over), and rock it like you can't believe anyone wouldn't want to look that way. 

Men have an advantage here in that an in-shape bald guy is generally viewed as pretty alpha, which ups your attractiveness/workplace dominance factor by a lot. I can attest to this as a relatively wimpy, confrontation-averse man. Ever since I shaved my head and started lifting, it's weird how much more often I notice people breaking eye contact from me before I do so (and I am far from staring people down) and act deferential despite me remaining pretty mild mannered. Attractive girls also smile at me more than they used to. That's just one guy's experience, but for me, I feel far better about myself than I ever did with all my hair (granted, I was skinny fat and in terrible shape back then). If you are not already in shape, consider that working out will probably make you more attractive to others than when you were chubby/super skinny with a full head of hair, plus you'll feel better and most likely get all of those opportunities you think are reserved for the more genetically blessed.

To reiterate, I have no judgement for guys who use medication, hair product (I really liked Toppik), or even who get transplants. At the end of the day, doing what you need to do to be more self-confident is what's going to pay the largest dividends.
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Re: I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2016, 12:39:02 PM »
Any trouble getting the finasteride script? I thought since it's not written for the specific symptom there can be problems...or is that where not going through insurance helps? I've known about the proscar vs fin for awhile but didn't think it would work barring getting a 'questionable' doctor to write it for me.

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Re: I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2016, 12:56:41 PM »
No issues at all.  1 mg finasteride is the generic version of Propecia.  It is what every dermatologist (or any other doctor) will write a prescription for.  It is the prescription that they are supposed to write.  My insurance finally started paying for it when it went off patent.  $21 for 90 days worth at Costco.

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Re: I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2016, 03:38:00 PM »
My bad I got confused - I was thinking of proscar, proscar was the prostrate drug with the same ingrediant as propecia, but a lot cheaper since it wasn't for vanity. I heard people having trouble getting proscar instead of propecia....not finasteride. I'll have to check into that....thx.

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Re: I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2016, 07:21:10 AM »
I started losing my hair in my early 20s.  Thought about it all the time.  When I hit 30 stopped really worrying about it because other men were starting to catch up in the hair loss department.  Less worrying increased my confidence and made it easier to meet women.  Or maybe it was because as women get older many just worry about meeting a nice guy and care less about hair.  Met my wife soon after. 5 years ago at 35 the hair I had just didn't look good.  So I decided to shave it off.  Love it.  Wife doesnt care one way or other.  No regrets and all it costs is a $35 pair of clippers every few years.

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Re: I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2016, 07:35:19 AM »
My receding hairline has now officially crossed over into properly bald in my mid-30's.
A few years ago I bought an electric clipper set and started cutting my own hair.
I have not paid for a haircut in 2 years and I love it.
I now shave my head with a 3 guard about once a week.
I have been called "handsome" by more women since I started shaving my head.
It's true that no one respects the guy with the comb-over at the office.
Shaving it off and getting fit are the way to go.
Invest in your physical health just the same as you invest in your financial health.
I'm 35 and have been lifting weights pretty religiously since I was 18. :)

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Re: I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2016, 10:18:32 AM »
Ersh.... Confession:  I tried finasteride for about a month before deciding that I'd rather be single for life and go bald in the ugliest way possible than put up with the dry mouth it gave me.  Felt like I'd swallowed beach sand every day.  Not sure if it's a common side-effect or not, but fuck that.

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Re: I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2016, 01:48:23 PM »
Ha! What's left of DH's hair is totally gray and I love it. OTOH, I have very little gray and my hair is still full and shiny (vinegar, mustachians, vinegar, I tell you!). The result is no one ever takes me for the cougar that I actually am.

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Re: I have saved $10k vs. Propecia and still have my hair
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2016, 01:25:44 PM »
Vinigar? wash or drink? I have heard this said about drinking kombucha that it makes you  less gray.