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Nords

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Empty nesters!
« on: May 24, 2014, 05:12:40 PM »
For those of you who don't read Early-Retirement.org, let me cross-post over here:  our daughter is officially off the family payroll.

She's spent the last four years at Rice University, working hard for a civil engineering degree on a Navy ROTC scholarship.  In the last few months she's been selected for surface nuclear power (aircraft carriers), passed her Naval Reactors interview, and passed her FE to officially become a civil engineer in training.  She graduated last Saturday morning and commissioned later that afternoon.  I'll admit that there has been some angst & drama over the last six months, but last week she was all smiles!

The Navy wants its surface nukes to learn how to drive & shoot before they disappear into engineering, so a few hours ago she reported to her ship in Norfolk.  It's a guided-missile destroyer that's getting ready to shift its homeport to Rota, Spain next month where she'll spend two years doing deployments for ballistic-missile defense.  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Ross_(DDG-71))  Rumor is that she'll start in the Weapons Department, and she'll probably rotate to one or two other division-officer jobs in Weps or Operations.  After that tour she'll spend a year in Nuclear Power School (Charleston SC) followed by two years on an aircraft carrier.  She may not be coming home for another two years (or longer) but my spouse and I will be touring Europe next year!

Rice U is not cheap.  Their retail tuition rate is about to break through the $20K/semester barrier-- and then there's another $6500/semester for room & board.  However she worked her butt off, learned how to overcome failure and adversity, made an incredible group of friends, and had some fun along the way.  NROTC paid all tuition & fees and paid her a monthly stipend during the academic year with full pay for summer "internships".  She took a part-time job walking backwards giving campus tours at $12/hour.  She managed to snag at least $1000 in additional scholarship money almost every semester.  She practices frugal techniques that make me proud. 

She's graduating with zero debt, a paid-off 1999 Honda CR-V, a triathlon bike, some dorm-room furniture, and a healthy Roth IRA balance.  She has a guaranteed job for five years along with engineering experience.  She's earning (taxable) base pay of $2905/month plus tax-free allowances for food, housing, and overseas COLA.  She's also earning a righteous $100/month sea pay.  As near as I can tell from the various databases her total annual compensation is about $70K, of which about half is untaxed.  She will max out her TSP and her Roth IRA every year for the next five, and she'll probably deposit more in taxable investments.

Admittedly this life is not for everyone, but it's working for her.  Ironically one of the reasons she enjoys being Navy is because it freed her of all the job-search angst which her classmates have been going through.  Her current plan is five-and-out for the Reserves, but she'll stick around as long as she's having fun.  (SWO bonus...)  When she gets tired of being on active duty she can find lifetime civil engineering employment on Oahu... or at least until she reaches financial independence.

I think I've caught up on the forum threads, but I may have missed something during the last 12 days.  Please PM or e-mail me if you're still waiting on my response.
« Last Edit: May 24, 2014, 05:16:06 PM by Nords »

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Re: Empty nesters!
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2014, 05:17:21 PM »
Congratulations to you both!!!!

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Re: Empty nesters!
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2014, 06:26:14 PM »
Congratulations! Thanks for sharing, Nords. It's not an easy process, but it sounds like she has her act together. You guys have done a great job!

I found the transition to young adulthood and independence to be one of the most challenging. It's a fine line between helping them to launch while not enabling dependence.

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Re: Empty nesters!
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2014, 05:35:28 PM »
Way cool.. And did her FE exam while it was easy.. thats the number 1 piece of advice I give any engineering graduate.. i.e do your FE as soon as practically possible.

Cus its damned hard 25 years out of college.. ask me how I know..:)

Congratulations.. she's launched..!

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Re: Empty nesters!
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2014, 05:47:12 PM »
I see you even broke out the shoes and pants for this one, if the magnitude of the occasion wasn't already obvious

congratulations

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Re: Empty nesters!
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2014, 07:47:20 PM »
Congratulations! Thanks for sharing, Nords. It's not an easy process, but it sounds like she has her act together. You guys have done a great job!
I found the transition to young adulthood and independence to be one of the most challenging. It's a fine line between helping them to launch while not enabling dependence.
Thanks.  I worry a lot about affluenza & entitlement.  We had plenty of quality time with her that week, and I think we're still on the good side of the line.  Even more impressive was the number of Rice U mentors who came up to us and said "Oh, YOU'RE her parents?!?", and then bragged on the things she's accomplished.  I think she's going to do fine.

Of course today's news was that PenFed just approved her for an $8500 limit on a new credit card.  But I think this card has no foreign currency transaction fees, so if that's the case then I'm applying for one too.

Way cool.. And did her FE exam while it was easy.. thats the number 1 piece of advice I give any engineering graduate.. i.e do your FE as soon as practically possible.
Rice's Engineering Dept pushed really hard on that.  She took the FE as a junior (and paid the fees) but didn't pass it.  The failure feedback (and a lot of study groups) set her up for the second attempt during her senior year (paid for by Rice) and she passed.  Perhaps ASCE has some sort of military or CLEP credit for her next five years of engineering experience, but I don't think she'll be sweating her resume-- especially not with Hawaii's need for civil & environmental engineers.  If she decides to five-and-out for the Navy Reserve then she'll also have plenty work waiting for her at PACOM.

I see you even broke out the shoes and pants for this one, if the magnitude of the occasion wasn't already obvious
congratulations
"Aloha casual"!  We did a lot of walking that week, so shoes were a good idea...

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Re: Empty nesters!
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2014, 03:24:12 AM »
Can you let me know about the PenFed credit card once you find out? We're going to Europe next summer and I haven't even thought about currency other than setting uside the money to go.

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Re: Empty nesters!
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2014, 04:48:10 AM »
Time sure does fly. I remember reading your post over at early retirement when you were college hunting.
Sounds like she has a bright future ahead of her. She might even beat your ER age with her financial savvy.

Congrats to all