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Down one car, up two bikes!
« on: July 22, 2013, 03:33:31 PM »
I finally stopped making excuses for being a lazy asshole, sold my 15 year old car for $2k, and then used the proceeds to get a (very slightly) used cargo bike, which cost almost exactly as much as I got for my car! It's a Big Dummy from Surly, which is an Xtracycle-compatible long tail design. It came with the Free Radical panniers, which seem to have a practically unlimited ability to swallow cargo, and a rear seat pad and stoker bars so my wife can ride on the back comfortably too, which is really fun.

Now, picking up a biking habit in Tucson in the middle of summer is not the most ideal, but I am totally addicted already. This thing is a freakin' truck of a bike. I've been using it to go to Costco (1.5 mi away), Trader Joe's (2.5 mi), the local bakery (2 mi), laundry (0.5 miles), local coffee house/cafe (3 mi) and for a bunch of other sudry errands in my corner of town (we've still got our old beater Tacoma for longer/further trips or when we need to haul more weight/bulk than I can pull). I've been riding at least a little every day, and I can feel it getting easier and more fun by the week. Really looking forward to cooler weather though!

Now, these bikes weigh a good 55 lbs with nothing in the bags. The first time I got on it, I thought "damn, that's a heavy bike!" But through the magic of hedonic adaptation and increased fitness, it now feels reasonably light and nimble when I'm not carrying a load, and still very handle-able even with an extra 180 lbs of wife, laundry, tools and other junk in the trunk. It's got 27 gears and a nice low bottom chainring so hills are manageable--if unpleasant--even with a pretty good load, just have to slow down to 3-4 mph sometimes to make it! We've had it loaded right up to the 400 lb weight limit with rider, passenger and cargo a couple of times on flatter ground and there's no trouble there either.

I had an older Trek 520 touring bike that was languishing in our house for years as well, which I wasn't using because it didn't fit me very well and I kept putting off making the handlebar adjustments, etc. that I had been meaning to do (yep, more face punch-worthy laziness!) But now I don't need it, so my wife has inherited it. We put some flat bars on it and she is getting comfortable riding again as well, which she hasn't done much of since she was a kid. So we're both benefitting! Hopefully soon she'll feel competent enough to go out with me on bigger streets and for longer rides, which will be really fun.

So I'm feeling a lot more badass than I was a few months ago! It's really satisfying to power your own transport, even aside from the gas/maintenance/insurance I'm saving and the health benefits. Best of all, this is going to be our "local trips" vehicle on the cross-country travels we're planning for the next couple of years (some of you may remember that we're the ones trying to build our own mini-RV to live in; that's still a work in progress...). Plus I'm sharpening my bike mechanic skills. Just within the past few weeks I've taught myself to adjust disc brakes and road cantilevers; set up and install new handlebars; diagnose and fix a loose steerer tube; and run new brake cable housings. I might learn how to build wheels too, since we're planning to put a NuVinci CVP shifter on the Trek pretty soon and I can save 50-100 bucks on bike mechanic labor if I do it myself.

I'm slowly, slowly, pulling my life into line with my values and priorities--not to mention the Way of the 'Stache--and every little step feels like a victory. Also, I highly recommend the Big Dummy to anyone looking for a great all-around bike with serious hauling capacity. I love love love it!

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Re: Down one car, up two bikes!
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2013, 04:57:49 PM »
Awesome! Well done! I've heard a lot of folks are surprised by how easy the hauling bikes ride even though they're resoundingly heavy! Let me ask: How are you getting along with only having a single car between the two of you? I'm working on getting down to one car too, but I'm still figuring out the logistics.

Do you cycle to work too?

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Re: Down one car, up two bikes!
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2013, 06:23:38 PM »
That is an awesome bike!  As you found out, they are not depreciating assets in the fashion of a car.  It sounds like you are killing it already.  Don't forget to lock it up tight when you places.  Good job!

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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2013, 12:34:01 PM »
Awesome! Well done! I've heard a lot of folks are surprised by how easy the hauling bikes ride even though they're resoundingly heavy! Let me ask: How are you getting along with only having a single car between the two of you? I'm working on getting down to one car too, but I'm still figuring out the logistics.

Do you cycle to work too?
I'm not working full time right now and my wife works from home; when we leave the house it's usually to go somewhere together. So it's not really an issue for us.

We also have a big-ass Chevy cargo van (our aforementioned future living space) that we can use if we REALLY need it. But it's pretty rare we'd need both at once.

That is an awesome bike!  As you found out, they are not depreciating assets in the fashion of a car.  It sounds like you are killing it already.  Don't forget to lock it up tight when you places.  Good job!
Thanks! :D I did my research and didn't mind spending the dough for what I know is a quality bike that I can keep for decades if I wish to--and the guy had only ridden it about 50 miles total, so it was just broken in for me when I got it!

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Re: Down one car, up two bikes!
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2013, 01:30:39 PM »
Here's a picture of my unusual bike. It gets a lot of comments and questions from passers-by.



I added the red reflective tape, the lights (2 rear, 1 front + a helmet light at night), the leather saddle, and the mirror. I also took the drop bars off the Trek and removed the levers/retaped them for rear seat use. Refitted the flat bars it came with for the Trek, which my wife is using now when she's not riding on the back of the Surly. Next big project will be putting a nice internal shifter hub on her bike to replace the old and finicky downtube friction shifters it came with.

Here's the Trek, too, if anyone's curious:



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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2013, 10:43:09 AM »
That's friggin awesome, I was just showing my wife Dutch cargo bikes the other day for sale on Ebay.  We still have two cars, but since I started bike commuting a few months ago (it rained heavy on my way in this AM, didn't stop me), we hardly ever use the one I USED to drive a whopping 3.5 miles to work each day.   See, I figured out years ago that living closer to work was cheaper than living far away, so I always have.  However, I had BAD car clown behavior until i started reading this website.  We now go for weekend family bike rides with two little kids, my 2 year old son rides in his REI bought Burley that my wife pulls along, and I attach our Novara afterburner to my bike to pull my 4 year old daughter along.  The KIDS LOVE IT.  It's so much fun for them and my wife and I have a blast.  Yes, we did get complimented last week on our contraptions and they ALWAYS raise eyebrows from confused motorists watching our family parade.  I love being different. 

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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2013, 11:47:41 AM »
Great job!  Bike riding really is addictive, isn't it?  I don't really know why I ever drove to run my errands before.  Keep up the good work!

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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2013, 01:27:36 PM »
That is awesome! Some day I would love to do this of we move to an area that is more bike-friendly. We are hemmed in on all sides with 6-8 lanes of traffic. :(. But in about five years, we will be able to move!

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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2013, 03:37:16 PM »
I hear the "not bike friendly" excuse all the time.  Sorry, but most places are some form of bike friendly.  I have bike lanes where I live but this is a luxury and not all streets have them.  My City has empty sidewalks on arterial roads, you CAN ride on the sidewalk if there is no shoulder and no pedestrian traffic.  This is very safe in suburban areas.  Also, a road this big usually has large shoulders?  Again, shoulders are usually much larger than a bike lane is, and are very safe to ride on.  My only exception is this, if you live in a very rural area, it might actually be unsafe to drive if speed limits are 50 MPH with trucks and there are no shoulders.  In which case you might need to have your head examined for living there, just saying with love. 

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Re: Down one car, up two bikes!
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2013, 04:53:11 PM »
awesome!!!

When we move Im going to make sure our new place has somewhere to store bikes.

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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2013, 08:48:51 PM »
That's friggin awesome, I was just showing my wife Dutch cargo bikes the other day for sale on Ebay.  We still have two cars, but since I started bike commuting a few months ago (it rained heavy on my way in this AM, didn't stop me), we hardly ever use the one I USED to drive a whopping 3.5 miles to work each day.   See, I figured out years ago that living closer to work was cheaper than living far away, so I always have.  However, I had BAD car clown behavior until i started reading this website.  We now go for weekend family bike rides with two little kids, my 2 year old son rides in his REI bought Burley that my wife pulls along, and I attach our Novara afterburner to my bike to pull my 4 year old daughter along.  The KIDS LOVE IT.  It's so much fun for them and my wife and I have a blast.  Yes, we did get complimented last week on our contraptions and they ALWAYS raise eyebrows from confused motorists watching our family parade.  I love being different.
Haha yeah, I had an older couple stop me at Trader Joe's when I was loading up my groceries and ask me if I was the guy they had seen riding around on "that thing", and that I cut "quite a figure" on it. Favorite question, which I've been asked more than once: "is that a bicycle?"

No, it's a blender. I mean, come on, it's friggin locked to a bike rack. What do you think it is? :-D

I hear the "not bike friendly" excuse all the time.  Sorry, but most places are some form of bike friendly.  I have bike lanes where I live but this is a luxury and not all streets have them.  My City has empty sidewalks on arterial roads, you CAN ride on the sidewalk if there is no shoulder and no pedestrian traffic.  This is very safe in suburban areas.  Also, a road this big usually has large shoulders?  Again, shoulders are usually much larger than a bike lane is, and are very safe to ride on.  My only exception is this, if you live in a very rural area, it might actually be unsafe to drive if speed limits are 50 MPH with trucks and there are no shoulders.  In which case you might need to have your head examined for living there, just saying with love.
The way I see it there are two factors: how bike-friendly your town is, and how biking-badass you are. If your town is not bike-friendly you are obligated to become more badass to compensate. Obviously on a population level not everyone is going to make this choice--but if you want to live the Tao Te Mustache then it is incumbent on you to either learn to bike where you live, or choose to live somewhere you would be willing to bike. So the complaint about the lack of bicycling infrastructure in the area is a legitimate one, as long as it comes from a spirit of "as a more-than-typically-badass human person, I can rely on my hard-won bicycling skills to keep me safe even in city traffic with no bike lanes. But the city should still build more bike infrastructure, because those who are not as capable as I am will not choose to use bicycles if the barriers seem too high, and getting more people on bikes would be a really good thing." Y'know?
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2013, 09:10:32 PM »
Love it!  I've been making an effort to do more cycling for commute/errands lately and it really is awesome once you stop finding excuses and just do it.  There's also the side bonus of limiting unnecessary/impulse purchases because I have to be able to carry them home

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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2013, 09:45:02 AM »
Love it!  I've been making an effort to do more cycling for commute/errands lately and it really is awesome once you stop finding excuses and just do it.  There's also the side bonus of limiting unnecessary/impulse purchases because I have to be able to carry them home
Unfortunately my bike has a ton of cargo space, so I have to keep using willpower...

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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2013, 08:47:58 AM »
Love it!  I've been making an effort to do more cycling for commute/errands lately and it really is awesome once you stop finding excuses and just do it.  There's also the side bonus of limiting unnecessary/impulse purchases because I have to be able to carry them home
Unfortunately my bike has a ton of cargo space, so I have to keep using willpower...

This is why I always try to live within *walking* distance of a grocery store. I know I'll be able to find room on my bicycle for all of the food impulse purchases (my weakness) but finding room in just two cloth grocery bags is harder. Also knowing that I'll have to schlep them home, instead of pedal effortlessly along...

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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2013, 01:40:51 PM »
I hear the "not bike friendly" excuse all the time.  Sorry, but most places are some form of bike friendly.  I have bike lanes where I live but this is a luxury and not all streets have them.  My City has empty sidewalks on arterial roads, you CAN ride on the sidewalk if there is no shoulder and no pedestrian traffic.  This is very safe in suburban areas.  Also, a road this big usually has large shoulders?  Again, shoulders are usually much larger than a bike lane is, and are very safe to ride on.  My only exception is this, if you live in a very rural area, it might actually be unsafe to drive if speed limits are 50 MPH with trucks and there are no shoulders.  In which case you might need to have your head examined for living there, just saying with love.

I would have replied the same thing, until last weekend, after my rear wheel was hit by a truck driver who didn't think I belonged on "her" street in Inner City Calgary. She did this intentionally a few seconds after honking a dozen times behind me. I ended up crashing in a parked car, she ran away before I could get her license plate, and luckily I only had a few bruises. But this first bad experience is making me wonder whether biking in the city is a risk worth taking, especially where there is no dedicated bike lane which is almost everywhere in most North American cities. I am an avid and experienced rider, and I've been riding my bike year-round, even when I lived in Yellowknife NWT. As I am typing, this, I am debating whether I should use my bike this afternoon to run errands in my neighbourhood.

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« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2013, 01:46:33 PM »
I hear the "not bike friendly" excuse all the time.  Sorry, but most places are some form of bike friendly.  I have bike lanes where I live but this is a luxury and not all streets have them.  My City has empty sidewalks on arterial roads, you CAN ride on the sidewalk if there is no shoulder and no pedestrian traffic.  This is very safe in suburban areas.  Also, a road this big usually has large shoulders?  Again, shoulders are usually much larger than a bike lane is, and are very safe to ride on.  My only exception is this, if you live in a very rural area, it might actually be unsafe to drive if speed limits are 50 MPH with trucks and there are no shoulders.  In which case you might need to have your head examined for living there, just saying with love.

I would have replied the same thing, until last weekend, after my rear wheel was hit by a truck driver who didn't think I belonged on "her" street in Inner City Calgary. She did this intentionally a few seconds after honking a dozen times behind me. I ended up crashing in a parked car, she ran away before I could get her license plate, and luckily I only had a few bruises. But this first bad experience is making me wonder whether biking in the city is a risk worth taking, especially where there is no dedicated bike lane which is almost everywhere in most North American cities. I am an avid and experienced rider, and I've been riding my bike year-round, even when I lived in Yellowknife NWT. As I am typing, this, I am debating whether I should use my bike this afternoon to run errands in my neighbourhood.

That really sucks!  I don't ride on country roads anymore after some chilling experiences too, but others do.  It is how you want to manage risk.

Some drivers do that to cars too.  Did you do a police report or catch the name on the truck?

 

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