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DIY Auto Repair: Getting Started
« on: September 16, 2012, 11:07:19 PM »
(I hope to fill out this table of contents with posts on each of these topics as I have time.  I do not propose to be thorough or referential, but rather to be tutorial and, hopefully, helpful.  The variety of situations and vehicles renders the former standards impossible for me and this MMM forum context.  These are intended to be informal HowTOs, after all.)
Table of Contents:
  • Getting Started
  • Getting Help (forums, usenet, manuals, friends, shops)
  • Tools and Supplies (move the tools and supplies lists below to this post)
  • Obtaining Parts (junkyards, self-service junkyards, Napa, Autozone, O'Reilly, Carquest, Pep Boys, specialty stores, online stores, online classifieds)
  • Finding a Mechanic Shop (including info on DIY shops)
  • Workflows
    • Jacking up your Car
    • Basic Tuneup
    • Routine Maintenance (filters, fluids, lubricants, cables and plugs)
    • Engine Service (gaskets, water pump, timing belts, head gasket, oil pump, heads)
    • Other Service (radiator, heater, AC, belts, brake system, intake and exhaust systems, throttle, sensors, vacuum system, electrical system, battery and alternator and starter, fuel system and fuel pump)
    • Drivetrain, Steering, and Suspension

There are plenty of HOWTOs and fora (forums, whatever) out there telling or showing you how to do certain auto repairs.  You should know and use them.  Why would I write yet another one here?  Many HOWTOs are written by old garage hands cursed with interesting grammar and writing organization.  Hopefully, mine will be more clear.  Auto forums and video HOWTOs are invaluable resources, but they only yield (maximum) benefit for an experienced DIY mechanic.

My purpose is to encourage timid mustachians, young, old, stubble, or Gandalf, to know the joy and accomplishment of maintaining your own ride.  I have never collected all this information in writing before, but I'll try my best.  First, allow me a brief tale.

My first car was a 1988 Subaru GL wagon, engine model EA-82, 1.8L SPFI, manual transmission, 4WD lo and hi.  It was red.  It was bulletproof.  I bought it from my brother in 2006 for $500 and sold it to the junk yard last year for $250.  When I bought it, among the many other maintenance issues it had, the rear fuel line leaked and the speedometer and fuel gauge didn't work.  A mechanic told my brother after looking over all of these things that not only did the rear fuel lines need to be replaced (they didn't, only one 10 cm hose), but that the rear brake lines also needed replacement (wrong again), the speedo cap was some lots of dollars (not if you get it from the self-service junk yard), and the fuel gauge problem can only be fixed if you replace something in the fuel tank (again, wrong).

After my first trial by grease at the self-service junk yard, I had successfully prised and replaced the fuel gauge, speedometer, and rear fuel lines and fuel pump for the low, low price of about $50.  This experience left me, with my latent anti-mustachian appetites, into a vain, destructive cycle, wherein I would fantasize about some new part or repair until I had myself convinced that replacing or repairing that one thing was the most important duty of my entire life, and then I would spend 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 days in agony and ecstasy over, under, and in my car.

Towards the end of the cycle I was replacing things like the timing belts, head gaskets, and transmission.  Most of the things I repaired/replaced did not need such action, but now I have the experience and cannot give it back--this is where you come in--I choose, rather, to give it away.


Now we're ready; let's get started.

Getting started:
  • Safety:  Safety.  Safety is your number one friend.  Working on/driving/jumping/doing anything with/or imagining doing anything with, under, around, without, by, far away from, or throughout an automated multiperson conveyance with your soft, weak human body is intrinsically dangerous.  Do not blame me or anyone else if you suffer physical harm.
  • Ergonomics:  While working over, under, in, and next to your car, you'll be persuaded to twist and contort portions of your body in unhealthy ways.  Take short and long breaks.  When I work on the car I feel to express that like Tesla, I "forget food, sleep, friends, everything."  Take a short breaks frequently.  Look out the window, recollect and organize the tools, parts, and supplies you're currently using so you don't misplace any.  Take long 5-10 minute breaks about every hour.  Go inside and wash your hands; eat something.  Remember that life is about more than fixing your car.  A big job will have you working in many of these places/manners, and constantly getting up, down, around, and in will really wear you out.
    • Working over your car:  Don't bend over really far for a long time.  You'll cause some damage to your lower back that will take a long time to heal.  If you need to reach something in the farther recesses of the engine compartment from above, sometimes it's better to clamber up on top of the engine, taking care to not step on anything fragile.  If your work requires a long time, try to find more than one ergonomic stance and alternate regularly.
    • Working under your car:  Don't lift your head and hold it in awkward positions.  This can cause rapid fatigue in and even damage your neck muscles.  Always rest your head on the ground or the creeper and work to the side so you don't get oil, grease, dust, rust, or other debris in your face or under your shirt.  Use a head mounted flashlight.
    • Working in your car:  Sometimes you need access to something behind the dashboard or near the pedals.  Once you get into that space, you'll be amazed at how far back it goes.  It feels like going into a different dimension.  Don't twist your body into this and other similar cramped spaces inside your car.  Always have the door open, the driver's seat moved all the way back, and ease yourself in as simply as possible.
    • Working next to your car:  Have a good, short stool you can sit on while you're working in the wheel well, or in the radiator area, or similar.  When I take the wheel off, I usually sit on it.  Adjust your sitting position so that you're not leaning forward and can maintain good back posture.
    In general, always be asking yourself, "is this ergonomic?,"  "when this bolt breaks loose, will my hand slam into the strut and injure my finger?", and other similar questions.
  • Workspace.
    • Carspace:  Ideally, you'll need a garage with a concrete floor with about 1 metre of space around your parked vehicle.  Less than this amount can be dangerous, more can be superfluous.  You need some free space around your car to safely operate the jack lever and generally to work.  A cramped working space is not ergonomic and can lead to injury.
    • Worktable:  A clean counter area near your carspace at a comfortable standing height with about 2 m^2 of work surface is ideal.  You can get by without this (I have long worked without one and long longed for the same).  A mechanic's vice and possibly a more articulate, crafty vise can be incredibly useful too.  (Again, more longing on my part).
    There are other, more specialized workspaces that can be useful for car repair, like parts bins, etc.  Car repair shops tend to have some of them, but you can get by with almost anything without them.

    If you don't have a carspace that can be described above:
    • If your garage is too small:  Move your second vehicle out of the garage first, or try moving some of the cruft lining the walls of your garage into your yard sale, or local thrift store.  If you cannot do without this stuff and are otherwise cramped for space, you will need more specialized thought until you can achieve for yourself a safe working space.
    • If you don't have a suitable garage:  You can get by without a garage, though this is not recommended.  Try to find a level piece of mostly uncracked concrete on your driveway or carport that affords the 1 m buffer around the car as already described.  Do not trust asphalt/tarmac, broken or uneven concrete, and/or unlevel concrete.  The concrete under your parked vehicle should have about a 0.5 to 1 metre buffer around your car. and the space around your car should be at least 1 metre.  You don't want asphalt/tarmac, broken, or unlevel concrete because these surfaces are not always trustworthy for supporting the weight of your car on jack stands.
    • If your chosen carspace is not in your private garage:  Do not select a carspace on or near a street, no matter how unbusy.  Do not trust a carspace through which or near which a moving vehicle may drive.  If you are forced to work in a carspace that is not safety-ideal as discussed, then you will need to be more aware about the dangers of moving vehicles nearby.  You could set up orange cones, or barricade your car with garbage cans or something.
  • Personal work gear.
    • One or more changes of grungy work clothes and shoes.  I also suggest a pair of dedicated overalls.
    • Latex and/or nitrile work gloves.  Don't be fooled by those fancy mechanics gloves.  They're almost useless once they've got grease on them, because it won't wash out and will keep oil and other harmful chemicals rubbing against your hands.  Working on a vehicle is a manual exercise in chemicals and materials for many of which your body does not have a dispositive metabolism.  They can collect therein unto toxic levels.
    • A box of good quality dust masks for when things get dusty, like when you're working on brakes.  (Even then, try to keep brake dust from getting airborne.)
    • Music:  Have some sort of music player in your workspace that plays soothing, or intelligent music to divert your emotions.  This is serious.  Working on a car is frustrating business, and some good music will help you to keep it all in perspective.  I personally prefer Mozart opera.
  • Tools:  There are many different types and kinds of tools.  Some tools are fixed, solid pieces of metal.  Others have replaceable components.  Still others are electrically powered.  You will never be able to own them all.  Entire mustache articles can be written about the practical purchasing and using of tools.  Here, I'll present some little advice as seems relevant.

    Some tools are designed to mechanically interface with specific members of a machine or device.  They come in standardized sizes and styles.  Sometimes these interface tools are identified by a single, linear dimension.  When contemplating purchasing tools of this type, don't waste your money on SAE (non-metric) tools.

    When I quite un-mustachianly purchased the bulk of my tools one summer in a rash of consumerism, I bought one of those Craftsman sets that included sockets of various types, ratchets, extension bars, monkey wrenches, nut drivers, and allen wrenches.  Unfortunately for me, the set was wholly redundant with itself, for it contained for each type of tool a full set of metric and SAE pieces.  To this day I have never used the SAE side.

    Some of you may scoff at this, but in my experience, if your metric set is complete and you are equipped with the proper compliment of crescent wrenches, you'll never need SAE tools.

    The best place to get most of these tools will be online classifieds or Harbor Freight.  Harbor Freight's prices are much more reflective of the cost of the Chinese sweatshop factories out of which all tools originate anyway, and often Harbor Freight will have sales, which steeply discount their already bargain prices.  But as with making any significant purchase, always review all your options, even if some of them seem pointless.  You may find a deal this way.  Many tools will last for decades.  Some of your tools will outlast you even if you're in your 20s.

    Here is a list of common automotive tools.  They will get over 0.9 of your jobs done.  If you need a specialty tool, you can usually borrow it from Autozone with a deposit.  In the Tools and Supplies post, I will describe which of these I recommend a beginner purchase outright, and which can be obtained as needed later.
    • Monkey wrenches.
    • Sockets.
    • Ratchets.
    • Extension bars.
    • Crescent wrenches.
    • Breaker bar, extension pipe
    • Pliers.
    • Vise grips.
    • Clamps.
    • Measuring tools.
    • Ball joint separators.
    • Hammers.
    • Punches.
    • Vises
    • Screwdrivers
    • Nut drivers
    • Allen wrenches
    • Jack, jack stands
    • Wheel blocks
  • Supplies
    • Rags.
    • Anti-seize.
    • Cleaners.
    • Hand soap.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2012, 11:02:35 PM by dark sector »

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Re: DIY Auto Repair: Getting Started
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2012, 06:10:15 PM »
Hi darksector!

thanks for the lengthy intro... I just came back from my service appointment and got a long list of items written up for my 2003 mazda protege.  The thing is that my car has an odometer that shows KM whereas I'm now based in the states.  So I know some items are not due to be replaced yet.  And the dealership always like to add a long list of items...

My car now has ~100,000 miles on it.  Based on this long list of diagnosis, and assuming I want to attempt as many of the services myself, how would you recommend me attack this list from simple tasks to advanced tasks, and what type of tools should I get?  Do you have any favorite websites or bloggers you learn most of your DIY skills from?  Also, where do you typically order supplies/ parts.  Do you walk into the nearest auto supply stores or do you have a preferred online store?  thanks a lot!

- change one or two light bulbs (I can do that, hehe)

- spark plugs (I think I can do it based on a few internet videos I saw)

- front brakes (I guess they mean brake pads right?  I don't have any tools such as jack stands...)

- timing belt

- battery (It seems to me I only changed it a few years back).  Can you please tell me how long should the battery last and when my battery test says rating 650CCA, 12.47V 429CCA what does it mean?)




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Re: DIY Auto Repair: Getting Started
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2012, 08:22:26 AM »
Any advice for someone who rents a house with no garage, or even a driveway, on a hilly street? I usually end up just doing work on the street further up the hill where it's more level, even though I know this isn't a good idea. But it seems like there's no other option for me other than paying ridiculous prices for someone else to do it, even though I know how. What about using sturdy pieces of wood under the jack stands to distribute the weight better?

The only stuff I do right now that requires putting the car on stands is oil changes, tire rotations, and brakes. In practice I haven't found cars driving by to be a big hassle because I see them coming and can get away (but maybe there's something I don't know that makes this a bad idea)

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Re: DIY Auto Repair: Getting Started
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2012, 09:42:39 AM »
- battery (It seems to me I only changed it a few years back).  Can you please tell me how long should the battery last and when my battery test says rating 650CCA, 12.47V 429CCA what does it mean?)
The CCA rating stands for Cold Cranking Amps, and is a rating of how much power the battery should be able to deliver in cold weather. 650CCA means the battery should put out 650 Amps for 30 seconds at 0 degrees (F) before the battery voltage drops to 7.2V. The second rating is basically the same but with a battery voltage drop limit of 12.47V instead of 7.2V (more realistic for modern cars which require enough voltage to run the electronics while cranking). A car battery typically will last at least 4 or 5 years of regular use from my experience, but battery life can be shortened dramatically by over discharging. If you leave you lights on a few times and drain it down to nothing it could substantially reduce the life of a lead acid battery.

Fixer - have you tried searching around for an out of the way parking lot which isn't used on weekends or in the evenings? As long as you don't leave any signs that you were there (big oil spills and so on) then you may be okay using them. Another thing to look into is if your town has a DIY garage/tool co-op, where you pay a fee to use their garage space and tools (you may have to become a member).

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Re: DIY Auto Repair: Getting Started
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2012, 10:54:32 AM »
Fixer - have you tried searching around for an out of the way parking lot which isn't used on weekends or in the evenings? As long as you don't leave any signs that you were there (big oil spills and so on) then you may be okay using them. Another thing to look into is if your town has a DIY garage/tool co-op, where you pay a fee to use their garage space and tools (you may have to become a member).

I haven't searched extensively for a DIY garage until now. The only one I can find is 30 mi from me, the main route to get there is a toll road and the place doesn't sound very flexible (the shop's own mechanics get priority over me and I would have to schedule my visit; is this normal?): http://sportscarshopinc.com/garageclub.html

There are local elementary schools I could park in, but I worry that I'd be too far away from my house to deal with the unexpected. I'm reminded of a brake issue I had this year where I had to pull a caliper off my car, leave the brake line dripping into a plastic water bottle, take the part inside to diagnose the problem it was having, then go online to look for solutions. I wouldn't have been able to do all of that at a parking lot, and I'd worry about leaving the car unattended like that in pieces.

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Re: DIY Auto Repair: Getting Started
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2012, 09:14:53 AM »
Fixer - I've seen people renting storage units for a few days if they have an idea that the repair will take longer than a few hours, or might not go as smoothly as hoped; they can lock up and walk away at night if they need to.  Perhaps this might be a viable option?

Bluepearl - the last time someone gave me a long list of things to do (way beyond what my wallet would support) I made them prioritize the list in order of safety importance.  Getting the brakes done might not be as comfortable as getting the heater fixed (for example), but definitely has more of an impact when you really need to stop fast.  :D

Dark Sector - thanks for taking the time to write this up.  I was recently quoted over $500 to replace a u-joint in the front of my jeep.  I KNOW a brand new u-joint replacement kit only costs around $50, and most of the fees revolve around labour, which make my teeth ache just thinking about.  I'm still nervous about taking the front of my jeep apart, but will be attempting the repair myself, and have started acquiring the bits I need to do the job safely.  If all goes well, I figure I'm looking at around $250 total to do both joints (once the front end is apart I might as well do both, I figure, seeing as if one's gone the other's probably not far behind) - $100 for parts, and so far I've spent $67 for a proper jack and jackstands.  Maybe another $80 for a u-joint clamp if I can't get it to work with my vice....and I can't wait to be able to say that I did it myself!  LOL :D

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Re: DIY Auto Repair: Getting Started
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2012, 11:00:54 AM »
Also, where do you typically order supplies/ parts.  Do you walk into the nearest auto supply stores or do you have a preferred online store?  thanks a lot!

- change one or two light bulbs (I can do that, hehe)
- spark plugs (I think I can do it based on a few internet videos I saw)
- front brakes (I guess they mean brake pads right?  I don't have any tools such as jack stands...)
- timing belt
- battery (It seems to me I only changed it a few years back).  Can you please tell me how long should the battery last and when my battery test says rating 650CCA, 12.47V 429CCA what does it mean?)

It's my feeling that mechanics provide longer lists in the hope that you'll pick at least one or two items. Asking for a priority list as suggested above is a good move.

spark plugs and timing belt: there are regular service intervals for these. Unless you reported a problem, I doubt the mechanic actually saw that these needed to be replaced. Consult your owners manual for the service interval.

brakes: they probably mean the brake pads. They may also tell you that the rotors will need replacement as well.... this may or may not be true. Both are self-servicable, but if you'd rather not and would still like to save some money, buy the parts yourself and find a garage to do the work for you.

battery: I have one of those jump starters in my trunk, so I just wait until the battery is dead and actually needs replacement.


As for where to buy parts.... Advance Auto often runs deals on their website (30% off, etc.).  I order there and pick-up in-store to avoid shipping.

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Re: DIY Auto Repair: Getting Started
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2012, 06:52:12 PM »
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As for where to buy parts.... Advance Auto often runs deals on their website (30% off, etc.).  I order there and pick-up in-store to avoid shipping.

Advance and Autozone appear to be in heavy competition so you can usually find outstanding deals at either online store.  My experience is that autozone has slightly lower quality parts, but more often have a lifetime warranty.

kdms: U-joints in general are VERY easy to replace.  However I'm unfamiliar with the front end of the jeep so maybe they put it somewhere difficult to reach?  In either case I recommend some youtubing before you tear into the car. 

Learn to do your own brake jobs and tune ups!  Shops will charge $80-$120/hr PLUS parts at higher than auto store prices.  I think its reasonable to say you can upgrade to junior stache with preventative/routine vehicle maintenance items, and a full stache by tackling the hard jobs.

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Re: DIY Auto Repair: Getting Started
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2012, 09:20:19 PM »
First, no grudge against MMM for the forum. (I hate forums.  Email and usenet has been threaded since before I was born probably, but all the standard forums junk everything into an unintelligible stream of a progressively heterogeneous conversation.  You need a real structure to handle this, a structure that includes at least threading.)

So much information!  I didn't know I knew so much about working on cars from the beginner's perspective.  I could (and should) probably write a book about it, except that I don't really know what a book is anymore.  Probably just a dedicated blog would do the same thing with obvious advantages and conveniences.

Sorry I started this and haven't finished it yet.  I'm 2 years into the busiest time of my life right now and don't have more than 2-3 hours free per week.  Let me try to answer some of the issues raised in this thread that I've started.

I am not an automotive guru.  I have occasionally thought about the possibility of becoming a professional automotive mechanic as a backup job.  I enjoy it, but I love other things more, like "Science", or at least that's what I do.  Anyway, I've got some experience, and it is that which I employ in summarizing these issues and their potential resolutions.

Each one of them is worthy of a full blog post and more.  I should write those someday, but for now, I'll try to summarize.
  • Obtaining (Buying) Parts:  You're really limited by the market of your local area in so many subtle ways, much like anything else.  Napa, Autozone, O'Reilly, Carquest, Pep Boys are some of the bigger multi-state DIY budget outlets that I know of.  Their wares are acceptable for many things.  They've been getting progressively better at exposing their inventory databases online, so I would definitely check that before going out to buy.  There are also some online companies, though I've never used any of them before.

    There are 3 classes of parts: parts that you can get at Autozone et al, parts that you can only get at the dealer, and parts that you can only find at the junkyard.  They generally correspond to parts that are changed often during your vehicle's lifetime, parts that are replaced only in unusual circumstances (you torque a lug nut too hard and snap the hub stud, thus need a new stud) and parts whose lifetime is comparable to the typical lifetime of the vehicle.

    The dealer should be the resource of last resort, obviously, for stuff you can get elsewhere.  A fourth category of places to get parts can only be discovered by the dedicated DIY mechanic.  You can either find specialty shops, like just European car parts, or only Japanese, or All American Specialty, or whatever by yourself on google maps or something, but you can, and already should be patiently searching your neighborhood for honest, quality repair shops (see the next point).  Once you've found a good shop, you can ask them about where they get their parts.  Autozone, online, et al usually serve parts from a very similar (or the same!) database.  If one has it, the others will as well, if none has it, it is very unlikely any of the others will.  But then you have market modifying effects, such as Autozone branding their own stuff from their suppliers, creating nuance complexities across catalogs, etc.  However, Autozone, online, et al parts are usually of lesser quality than the suppliers that your local grunge mechanic uses (if she doesn't use Carquest et al).  The probability of having one of these specialty suppliers in your area is obviously, market dependent.  If you do have (at least) one for your car, and their prices and parts are good, you're lucky.
  • Finding a Mechanic Shop:  I personally find myself greatly mistrusting the big, gleaming, franchise stores, staffed with a dozen crisp, uniformed employees--this came from many experiences.  However, a grungy shop seems to be more likely to rip you off, or give you low quality service than not.  What I usually do to test a shop is take my car there for emissions and inspections.  You could go and have them change your oil or something innocuous like that.  If they felt shady, when you get home you can look over their work, I guess.  While I sit in the cramped or filthy waiting area I try to feel out things, like how the mechanics like their jobs, what the work culture is.  This also gives you the opportunity to ask the proprietor (who usually mans the counter) about some issues you've noticed with your car and what you've done/may do to fix them, and ask about their prices for certain services like alignments.  If their prices are good, and their work is fast, then I might take my car back there and have them do something that I don't have time to do myself.  Obviously, there's still a certain amount of risk, but you'll get that anywhere.  Trustworthy, competitive automotive work is usually found among the lower class, where people actually both care about good prices by necessity and greater automotive literacy forces better service at better prices.
  • (Front) Brake Rotors:  I have an old mechanic friend who lives across the street from me.  One day I was servicing the brakes on my car in my driveway, got confused and grabbed the computer to try to figure out how to take the rear brake drums.  He came over, laughed at me, and then said that brakes, both disk and drum are nearly mechanically identical across all cars and decades, notwithstanding ABS, so once you've done one car, you can pretty much just work over the brakes on another with minimal confusion.  However, some car makers attach the brake rotors to the wheel hub in a way that you can't remove them unless you take the whole steering knuckle off.  This will continue to sound scare only you learn what a ball joint is and how to separate it, but by that point, you'll be ready to replace your own axles and tie rods too.
  • Batteries:  This has already been addressed, but I want so say something about it.  I know two things about batteries:  I had one that lasted over 5 years (the Napa guys were impressed, because it was a Napa battery), and a better (not necessarily a more expensive?) battery makes a difference.  If I were as an experienced a Mustachian as MMM, I'd nail this with some sort of system of PDEs to find the optimum price point.  Really, this applies to all parts: cheap parts may be crap, but I suppose you knew that already.

Sorry for rambling a little, and maybe giving more information than is necessary; I don't have much time to organize my thoughts.  I'm going to edit the original post in this thread now and spend some time reorganizing that writing.  I think I'll post a series of topics in this forum, linked to each other in table-of-contents fashion and try to cover what seems to be necessary for a beginner to confidently maintain at least 0.9 of their vehicle.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2012, 11:12:04 PM by dark sector »

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Re: DIY Auto Repair: Getting Started
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2012, 09:23:20 PM »
I should add about shopping for parts and services that by enjoying this site and using the forum, you're already in the top 0.99 of the total population shrewd- and discriminating-wise.