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MgoSam

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No green
« on: February 02, 2023, 12:17:07 PM »
It's been over a month since the last time I imbibed in anything green related.

It feels great, I have way more energy and drive. I'm usually awake before my coffee maker starts and going to the gym most mornings for a run and then able to exercise again in the evening. I've read about 14 books in January.

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Re: No green
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2023, 12:33:20 PM »
Maybe I'm just dumb but I'm very lost. Nothing green related? Are you not eating vegetables?

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Re: No green
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2023, 12:47:34 PM »
Maybe I'm just dumb but I'm very lost. Nothing green related? Are you not eating vegetables?

I'm guessing he is talking about the marijuana.

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Re: No green
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2023, 12:54:59 PM »
Ohhhh. Yep, just dumb. Thanks!

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Re: No green
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2023, 05:26:11 PM »
Are you not eating vegetables?

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Re: No green
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2023, 05:56:03 PM »
Are you not eating vegetables?

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Let me know if you have more energy and drive.

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Re: No green
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2023, 05:36:35 AM »
Are you not eating vegetables?

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Let me know if you have more energy and drive.

Looks like we found Jack Reacher's MMM account!

Yeah, it was that other substance. I like it but my tolerance got just way too high. If you are going to use it be wary of dabbing and edibles, they can shoot up your tolerance really fast, dabbing especially.

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Re: No green
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2023, 08:48:51 AM »
I've recently had the exact same experience. I smoked daily for several years and wasn't happy with how high my tolerance was and that I felt like I needed it at the end of the day. So, I decided to take a break for a couple weeks. That turned into stopping permanently. Stopping really messed with my sleep and that didn't return to normal for 10 weeks, but once it did, I felt like a new person. My energy and motivation is significantly improved. I do still occasionally consume a gummy, but I will not being going back to daily use.

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Re: No green
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2023, 06:47:05 AM »
Maybe I'm just dumb but I'm very lost. Nothing green related? Are you not eating vegetables?

I'm guessing he is talking about the marijuana.

Lol, thank you for clarifying I was having the same scratch head moment with this thread!

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Re: No green
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2023, 05:17:59 AM »
So how much additional money have you saved from this one lifestyle change @MgoSam @shingy ?  This is a Personal Finance blog, yo!

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Re: No green
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2023, 08:21:28 AM »
So how much additional money have you saved from this one lifestyle change @MgoSam @shingy ?  This is a Personal Finance blog, yo!

haha, fair point. In my case, I was spending about $75/month, so nearly $1,000 for the year and ~$25,000 less needed for FIRE :)

Pretty solid savings on top of the other benefits.

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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2023, 12:41:23 PM »
So how much additional money have you saved from this one lifestyle change @MgoSam @shingy ?  This is a Personal Finance blog, yo!

haha, fair point. In my case, I was spending about $75/month, so nearly $1,000 for the year and ~$25,000 less needed for FIRE :)

Pretty solid savings on top of the other benefits.

Honestly, I would have thought it was more. I don't smoke (or drink), but I've noticed that my friends who drink think nothing of spending $50 a night on alcohol, I assumed pot was pricier. Anyway, congrats on finding a place to cut your spending.

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Re: No green
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2023, 08:18:45 AM »
Honestly, I would have thought it was more. I don't smoke (or drink), but I've noticed that my friends who drink think nothing of spending $50 a night on alcohol, I assumed pot was pricier. Anyway, congrats on finding a place to cut your spending.

I guess it depends on consumption, but weed is wayyyy cheaper than alcohol to begin with and that's before you include the mark up when consuming at a bar or restaurant.

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Re: No green
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2023, 02:06:22 PM »
Honestly, I would have thought it was more. I don't smoke (or drink), but I've noticed that my friends who drink think nothing of spending $50 a night on alcohol, I assumed pot was pricier. Anyway, congrats on finding a place to cut your spending.

I guess it depends on consumption, but weed is wayyyy cheaper than alcohol to begin with and that's before you include the mark up when consuming at a bar or restaurant.

YMMV, I work in the industry and as a result I largely get to do things for free. My office has boxes of samples of various legal products that I haven't gotten around to testing or handing out (I only touch samples when I'm seriously considering carrying the product, otherwise I'll forget if its good or not).

But yeah, it was crazy how much I used to spend when out with friends. I wouldn't bat an eye at a $50 bar tab because the people I would drink with would be going to a nightclub afterwards where an ordinary beer might be $12.

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Re: No green
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2023, 03:11:37 PM »
How much weed were you imbibing each week for it to make such a difference to your life?

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Re: No green
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2023, 11:32:53 AM »
Good question, enough that it affected my daily life?

My problem is control, so I am going to go back to not using. My issue is that if I take it then it is harder for me to get up with a clear head the next morning. Either I'm foggish or lazy. Both of which start the day off poorly and can cascade into a less productive day. If I'm not fresh in the morning I am less likely to exercise.

I posted this largely because many, including me, tend to view weed as less harmful. While I believe this to be true (when compared against nicotine) it is still a drug that can affect your motivation.

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Re: No green
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2023, 02:40:36 PM »
It's weird how different people's experience can be so very different.  I use weed maybe once every couple weeks.  I take from 7 - 10 mg of THC and equivalent amounts of CBD via tincture Sunday afternoon.  I sleep really well that night, and wake up feel outstanding on Monday mornings.  I do a 5 km run every Monday morning, and a heavy weightlifting session in the evening (squats/deadlifts/OHP/Bench/weighted pullups).  I haven't observed any motivation problems at work.  I often have issues with insomnia, and usually feel sharper after having weed the day before than after a regular night.

Like any drug (nicotine, caffeine, alcohol) it should be treated with respect and use generally minimized, but I find that my life is more enjoyable overall with occasional pot use.

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Re: No green
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2023, 08:03:19 AM »
I think the issues with motivation and energy (certainly in my case) were due to daily consumption (I think the affect on my sleep is the real driver). Since stopping daily, I probably consume it once every week or two and have found no repercussions.

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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2023, 08:44:41 AM »
Good question, enough that it affected my daily life?

My problem is control, so I am going to go back to not using. My issue is that if I take it then it is harder for me to get up with a clear head the next morning. Either I'm foggish or lazy. Both of which start the day off poorly and can cascade into a less productive day. If I'm not fresh in the morning I am less likely to exercise.

I posted this largely because many, including me, tend to view weed as less harmful. While I believe this to be true (when compared against nicotine) it is still a drug that can affect your motivation.

Marijuana is less harmful on average than a lot of other drugs, but that's a pretty relative statement.

Alcohol is commonly used and it's damage is absolutely devastating to a lot of people. The current recommendation in Canada is to limit it to 2 drinks per week, max, because it's so dangerous.

Marijuana being less dangerous isn't really saying much.

GuitarStv is one of the people who responds well to cannabis, and that's great for him, that's like my DH who has 2 beers a week and really enjoys them.

Just because there are people who have use patterns that aren't damaging doesn't mean that the drug isn't potentially incredibly harmful.

I grew up in a hippy town where virtually everyone smokes pot. Like, there was an article in the local paper about a poor local single mom who had her backyard pot plants stolen by some teens. It was a legit sob story about how she now can't afford pot and how tragic the woke situation is. People donated to her. I'm not even kidding.

That is how prevalent and accepted marijuana was where I grew up.

And I saw it fuck up A LOT of people. Badly.

I personally hate the stuff and typically don't enjoy being around people who are high.

Literally all of DH's friends were pretty chronic users during their master's program together and about half of them still are 20 years into their professional careers, but the ones who quit are definitely much happier, more balanced, just more with it people who have more active and interesting lives.

That's not to say that people, like GuitarStv can't have perfectly healthy, active, balances lives while consuming some amount of cannabis, but most habitual users I've ever known have benefitted immensely from quitting.

My mom is on and off marijuana all the time, and it's always so nice when she's off it. She's so much sharper and more present. It's always sad for me when she goes back because I always feel like I'm losing the coolest part of my mom when she does.

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Re: No green
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2023, 04:18:36 PM »
How much weed were you imbibing each week for it to make such a difference to your life?

So I was taking about 40mg of D9 gummies (equivalent is roughly 100mg D8 gummies) each day along with dabbing heavily or smoking at least 3 full bowls (probably about 2 grams of flower). It definitely affected my drive, motivation, and work ethic. What also sucked is that while I would go to bed at the same time (9 pm) I would lay until 7 am instead of being up at 430 which I am when I'm clean.

I foolishly decided to start smoking again in Feb/March/April and just finished my stache so I'm going to go clean for the next few weeks. I work in the industry so feel that complete abstinence is unfeasible but instead I am only going to do it when I'm working and in a meeting where usage is occuring.

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Re: No green
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2023, 04:22:19 PM »
How much weed were you imbibing each week for it to make such a difference to your life?

So I was taking about 40mg of D9 gummies (equivalent is roughly 100mg D8 gummies) each day along with dabbing heavily or smoking at least 3 full bowls (probably about 2 grams of flower). It definitely affected my drive, motivation, and work ethic. What also sucked is that while I would go to bed at the same time (9 pm) I would lay until 7 am instead of being up at 430 which I am when I'm clean.

I foolishly decided to start smoking again in Feb/March/April and just finished my stache so I'm going to go clean for the next few weeks. I work in the industry so feel that complete abstinence is unfeasible but instead I am only going to do it when I'm working and in a meeting where usage is occuring.

Holy shit!  I can totally believe that you're having problems with that level of consumption!

Why do you have to be high at work?  Are you in product testing or something, or is this some sort of work sanctioned peer pressure thing?

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Re: No green
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2023, 09:24:23 PM »
I only recently started partaking of the forbidden lettuce.

Was never able to before because my employer does random drug tests (and they actually really do them, I've been randomly tested 4 times across 7 years of employment), but now there's  this new thing called HHC (hexa-hydro-cannabinol) that does not show up on urine tests, so I've started doing that.

One vape cartridge costs about $15 at the local smoke shop, and at my current rate of consumption that lasts me about a month. I only use it before bed, when I have no need to be productive. Helps me to fall asleep and has a surprisingly potent psychedelic affect if I hit it more than a couple times, which I really like. $180 a year seems worth it to me. Hopefully my tolerance doesn't go nuts and exponentially increase the cost. If that starts happening I will need to re-evaluate.

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Re: No green
« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2023, 11:57:35 AM »
I'm thinking about getting something as an occasional sleep aid and anxiety reliever. I rarely drink and have never smoked.

Recommendations?
« Last Edit: April 23, 2023, 06:04:17 PM by Omy »

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Re: No green
« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2023, 01:00:04 PM »
I'm thinking about getting something as an occasional sleep aid and anxiety reliever. I rarely drink and have never smoked.

Recommndations?

CBN is supposed to be good for sleep. I take a lot of CBD but haven't tried CBN yet.
Wyld is a good brand if you're looking at gummies.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2023, 01:10:42 PM by sonofsven »

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Re: No green
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2023, 01:08:17 PM »
3 mg THC along with 20 mg CBD works works great for making me sleep.  CBN (in doses up to 30mg) did nothing at all for me.