Chipotle

[Ricky]

To be fair, water also costs something so you're technically "stealing" water from them. Sure, they didn't charge you for it, but just saying.

Is it stealing if you ask me for a piece of gum and I give it to you?  The gum cost me something.  Your argument is "technically" asinine.

You're right. I'm just saying, not everything legal is moral and vice-versa.

Sure they gave you the water for free - but are you going to back your truck up and load 100 gallons of water up since they "gave" it to you?

False equivalency alert!

If you ask for a cup of water, and fill it only with water, it is not technically "stealing" as you purported in the original quoted post.  Chipotle giving you a cup for water is not implicit permission to "back my truck up" (which wouldn't even work, btw... trucks don't fit into Chipotles, fyi) and fill it.

That cup of water implies unlimited refills, no?

[johnny847]

To be fair, water also costs something so you're technically "stealing" water from them. Sure, they didn't charge you for it, but just saying.

Is it stealing if you ask me for a piece of gum and I give it to you?  The gum cost me something.  Your argument is "technically" asinine.

You're right. I'm just saying, not everything legal is moral and vice-versa.

Sure they gave you the water for free - but are you going to back your truck up and load 100 gallons of water up since they "gave" it to you?

False equivalency alert!

If you ask for a cup of water, and fill it only with water, it is not technically "stealing" as you purported in the original quoted post.  Chipotle giving you a cup for water is not implicit permission to "back my truck up" (which wouldn't even work, btw... trucks don't fit into Chipotles, fyi) and fill it.

That cup of water implies unlimited refills, no?

Yes, but it doesn't mean you can leave the store with more than one cup full of water. The same way that if you buy a soda, they give you unlimited refills, but you're not allowed to just come in with a large container and fill it with soda. You're free to fill your cup right before you leave. Not carry away gallons of soda.

[juuustin]

To be fair, water also costs something so you're technically "stealing" water from them. Sure, they didn't charge you for it, but just saying.

Is it stealing if you ask me for a piece of gum and I give it to you?  The gum cost me something.  Your argument is "technically" asinine.

You're right. I'm just saying, not everything legal is moral and vice-versa.

Sure they gave you the water for free - but are you going to back your truck up and load 100 gallons of water up since they "gave" it to you?

False equivalency alert!

If you ask for a cup of water, and fill it only with water, it is not technically "stealing" as you purported in the original quoted post.  Chipotle giving you a cup for water is not implicit permission to "back my truck up" (which wouldn't even work, btw... trucks don't fit into Chipotles, fyi) and fill it.

That cup of water implies unlimited refills, no?

To achieve unlimited refills, you would need unlimited time.  Q.E.D.

[OSUBearCub]

Water is the cheapest thing a restaurant can give away and helps promote/facilitate consuming the food.  Restaurants will give you water lagniappe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagniappe) as a goodwill gesture.

Why would you crap on that friendly gesture by returning the favor with theft?

Now before you equate this with the pound-for-pound comparison of a bowl vs burrito, the restaurant is literally deciding at that moment how much to scoop into either vessel.  While we may know that we generally get more food in the bowl vs burrito for the same price, that is simply being knowledgeable about the product offerings.  The restaurant could (and probably has) inspected the issue to ensure they aren't losing money in the process.  That tortilla on the side?  Again, it's a lagniappe the restaurant has decided to give a customer.  They could always refuse if they wanted to.

When you decide to make a fraudulent request for a cup of water, knowing full well that you intend to consume a costlier beverage, you are both ethically and legally wrong.

[Can't Wait]

Yes. When I was a kid.  Then I was scolded so I wouldn't grow up into a sociopath.  That's generally how the process works so that we can keep a well-ordered, civil society. :-)

Actually, no, I haven't. Well, maybe when I was a kid like the other poster.

Well pin a rose on both of your noses. Aren't you guys just sooooooooooo special..

For real? Your suggestion is theft, pure and simple. What's so special about not being a petty thief?

I reply to your comment with the same dumbfoundedness that you replied to mine with... For real? I'm suggesting theft and I'm being a petty thief? They give me the cup for free and there is no rule posted anywhere in my Chipotle saying I have to fill it with water nor has any employee ever told me I couldn't fill it with whatever I wanted.

Pretty damn sassy for a noob, GovtWorker. Your attitude needs an adjustment if you want to last around here. The point of getting to FIRE is to do it by being smarter, not by being a cheat.

I'm sassy and my attitude needs an adjustment? Okay...if you say so.....


Like I said, my Chipotle has no rule saying I can't fill that cup up with soda and I've never been asked not to do it. I'm simply taking advantage of a loophole..which was the purpose of this whole thread. Someone posted tips about how to TAKE ADVANTAGE of Chipotle's serving practices.

[dragoncar]

Water is the cheapest thing a restaurant can give away and helps promote/facilitate consuming the food.  Restaurants will give you water lagniappe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagniappe) as a goodwill gesture.

Why would you crap on that friendly gesture by returning the favor with theft?

Now before you equate this with the pound-for-pound comparison of a bowl vs burrito, the restaurant is literally deciding at that moment how much to scoop into either vessel.  While we may know that we generally get more food in the bowl vs burrito for the same price, that is simply being knowledgeable about the product offerings.  The restaurant could (and probably has) inspected the issue to ensure they aren't losing money in the process.  That tortilla on the side?  Again, it's a lagniappe the restaurant has decided to give a customer.  They could always refuse if they wanted to.

When you decide to make a fraudulent request for a cup of water, knowing full well that you intend to consume a costlier beverage, you are both ethically and legally wrong.

Right, and if you're concerned with getting free stuff ethically, try just asking for a free soda (with your order).  You may be surprised how often they will say yes.

[sheepstache]

Yes. When I was a kid.  Then I was scolded so I wouldn't grow up into a sociopath.  That's generally how the process works so that we can keep a well-ordered, civil society. :-)

Actually, no, I haven't. Well, maybe when I was a kid like the other poster.

Well pin a rose on both of your noses. Aren't you guys just sooooooooooo special..

For real? Your suggestion is theft, pure and simple. What's so special about not being a petty thief?

I reply to your comment with the same dumbfoundedness that you replied to mine with... For real? I'm suggesting theft and I'm being a petty thief? They give me the cup for free and there is no rule posted anywhere in my Chipotle saying I have to fill it with water nor has any employee ever told me I couldn't fill it with whatever I wanted.

All the Chipotles I've been to the water cup is different from the soda cup and plainly labeled as being for water.  What do you want, authoritarian signs posted everywhere and an armed guard at the beverage station? Just because it's on the honor system doesn't mean it's not a rule.

[Can't Wait]

Yes. When I was a kid.  Then I was scolded so I wouldn't grow up into a sociopath.  That's generally how the process works so that we can keep a well-ordered, civil society. :-)

Actually, no, I haven't. Well, maybe when I was a kid like the other poster.

Well pin a rose on both of your noses. Aren't you guys just sooooooooooo special..

For real? Your suggestion is theft, pure and simple. What's so special about not being a petty thief?

I reply to your comment with the same dumbfoundedness that you replied to mine with... For real? I'm suggesting theft and I'm being a petty thief? They give me the cup for free and there is no rule posted anywhere in my Chipotle saying I have to fill it with water nor has any employee ever told me I couldn't fill it with whatever I wanted.

All the Chipotles I've been to the water cup is different from the soda cup and plainly labeled as being for water.  What do you want, authoritarian signs posted everywhere and an armed guard at the beverage station? Just because it's on the honor system doesn't mean it's not a rule.

I can't read that label haha.. the cup is too small.

[OSUBearCub]

Yes. When I was a kid.  Then I was scolded so I wouldn't grow up into a sociopath.  That's generally how the process works so that we can keep a well-ordered, civil society. :-)

Actually, no, I haven't. Well, maybe when I was a kid like the other poster.

Well pin a rose on both of your noses. Aren't you guys just sooooooooooo special..

For real? Your suggestion is theft, pure and simple. What's so special about not being a petty thief?

I reply to your comment with the same dumbfoundedness that you replied to mine with... For real? I'm suggesting theft and I'm being a petty thief? They give me the cup for free and there is no rule posted anywhere in my Chipotle saying I have to fill it with water nor has any employee ever told me I couldn't fill it with whatever I wanted.

Pretty damn sassy for a noob, GovtWorker. Your attitude needs an adjustment if you want to last around here. The point of getting to FIRE is to do it by being smarter, not by being a cheat.

I'm sassy and my attitude needs an adjustment? Okay...if you say so.....


Like I said, my Chipotle has no rule saying I can't fill that cup up with soda and I've never been asked not to do it. I'm simply taking advantage of a loophole..which was the purpose of this whole thread. Someone posted tips about how to TAKE ADVANTAGE of Chipotle's serving practices.

It's not a loophole.  It's fraud.  I don't have to post signs in my house asking you to please not take my stuff if I ask you in for a cup of coffee. 

[Can't Wait]

Yes. When I was a kid.  Then I was scolded so I wouldn't grow up into a sociopath.  That's generally how the process works so that we can keep a well-ordered, civil society. :-)

Actually, no, I haven't. Well, maybe when I was a kid like the other poster.

Well pin a rose on both of your noses. Aren't you guys just sooooooooooo special..

For real? Your suggestion is theft, pure and simple. What's so special about not being a petty thief?

I reply to your comment with the same dumbfoundedness that you replied to mine with... For real? I'm suggesting theft and I'm being a petty thief? They give me the cup for free and there is no rule posted anywhere in my Chipotle saying I have to fill it with water nor has any employee ever told me I couldn't fill it with whatever I wanted.

Pretty damn sassy for a noob, GovtWorker. Your attitude needs an adjustment if you want to last around here. The point of getting to FIRE is to do it by being smarter, not by being a cheat.

I'm sassy and my attitude needs an adjustment? Okay...if you say so.....


Like I said, my Chipotle has no rule saying I can't fill that cup up with soda and I've never been asked not to do it. I'm simply taking advantage of a loophole..which was the purpose of this whole thread. Someone posted tips about how to TAKE ADVANTAGE of Chipotle's serving practices.

It's not a loophole.  It's fraud.  I don't have to post signs in my house asking you to please not take my stuff if I ask you in for a cup of coffee. 

Buuuuuut, we aren't talking about someone taking things from your house or anyone's house. That is a completely ridiculous over-the-top comparison. We're talking about a guy paying for his food and asking for a free cup, then filling it with liquid from a beverage station.

[TrulyStashin]

Instead of paying for anything I just take the burrito and run out the door.

Someone needs to read the "cheap vs frugal" post.

Dislike.

Don't act like you guys have never done something like that haha.

Actually, no, I haven't. Well, maybe when I was a kid like the other poster.

Not to go totally off-thread, but when my brother was little (7 or 8 maybe, I was about 10 or 11) we were walking through the grocery store past the salad bar.  He grabbed a hard boiled egg and popped it in his mouth.  My mother grabbed him by the collar (literally) and dragged his sorry hindparts to the manager's office where she made him turn himself in and pay for the egg.

I must not have taken heed.  When I was in high school, I skipped school ONCE.  She caught me and made me turn myself in.  I got a day of in-school-suspension and the shame nearly killed me.   Shew... Thanks MOM!

[johnny847]

Yes. When I was a kid.  Then I was scolded so I wouldn't grow up into a sociopath.  That's generally how the process works so that we can keep a well-ordered, civil society. :-)

Actually, no, I haven't. Well, maybe when I was a kid like the other poster.

Well pin a rose on both of your noses. Aren't you guys just sooooooooooo special..

For real? Your suggestion is theft, pure and simple. What's so special about not being a petty thief?

I reply to your comment with the same dumbfoundedness that you replied to mine with... For real? I'm suggesting theft and I'm being a petty thief? They give me the cup for free and there is no rule posted anywhere in my Chipotle saying I have to fill it with water nor has any employee ever told me I couldn't fill it with whatever I wanted.

Pretty damn sassy for a noob, GovtWorker. Your attitude needs an adjustment if you want to last around here. The point of getting to FIRE is to do it by being smarter, not by being a cheat.

I'm sassy and my attitude needs an adjustment? Okay...if you say so.....


Like I said, my Chipotle has no rule saying I can't fill that cup up with soda and I've never been asked not to do it. I'm simply taking advantage of a loophole..which was the purpose of this whole thread. Someone posted tips about how to TAKE ADVANTAGE of Chipotle's serving practices.

And of course, you've conveniently ignored

Water is the cheapest thing a restaurant can give away and helps promote/facilitate consuming the food.  Restaurants will give you water lagniappe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagniappe) as a goodwill gesture.

Why would you crap on that friendly gesture by returning the favor with theft?

Now before you equate this with the pound-for-pound comparison of a bowl vs burrito, the restaurant is literally deciding at that moment how much to scoop into either vessel.  While we may know that we generally get more food in the bowl vs burrito for the same price, that is simply being knowledgeable about the product offerings.  The restaurant could (and probably has) inspected the issue to ensure they aren't losing money in the process.  That tortilla on the side?  Again, it's a lagniappe the restaurant has decided to give a customer.  They could always refuse if they wanted to.

When you decide to make a fraudulent request for a cup of water, knowing full well that you intend to consume a costlier beverage, you are both ethically and legally wrong.

I can't read that label haha.. the cup is too small.

Uh huh. Sure you can't. But you can read the menu at Chipotle. The label on that water cup at Chipotle that says H2O is just as big (in the sense that it takes up the same portion of your field of view as) the menu at Chipotle.

[OSUBearCub]

Yes. When I was a kid.  Then I was scolded so I wouldn't grow up into a sociopath.  That's generally how the process works so that we can keep a well-ordered, civil society. :-)

Actually, no, I haven't. Well, maybe when I was a kid like the other poster.

Well pin a rose on both of your noses. Aren't you guys just sooooooooooo special..

For real? Your suggestion is theft, pure and simple. What's so special about not being a petty thief?

I reply to your comment with the same dumbfoundedness that you replied to mine with... For real? I'm suggesting theft and I'm being a petty thief? They give me the cup for free and there is no rule posted anywhere in my Chipotle saying I have to fill it with water nor has any employee ever told me I couldn't fill it with whatever I wanted.

Pretty damn sassy for a noob, GovtWorker. Your attitude needs an adjustment if you want to last around here. The point of getting to FIRE is to do it by being smarter, not by being a cheat.

I'm sassy and my attitude needs an adjustment? Okay...if you say so.....


Like I said, my Chipotle has no rule saying I can't fill that cup up with soda and I've never been asked not to do it. I'm simply taking advantage of a loophole..which was the purpose of this whole thread. Someone posted tips about how to TAKE ADVANTAGE of Chipotle's serving practices.

It's not a loophole.  It's fraud.  I don't have to post signs in my house asking you to please not take my stuff if I ask you in for a cup of coffee. 

Buuuuuut, we aren't talking about someone taking things from your house or anyone's house. That is a completely ridiculous over-the-top comparison. We're talking about a guy paying for his food and asking for a free cup, then filling it with liquid from a beverage station.

It's not ridiculous or over the top.  You're trying to fabricate a level of nuance that doesn't exist in this situation in order to ameliorate your guilt.  This is fraud.  I'm really concerned that someone working in government has a faulty compass on this issue. 

The ONLY way this wouldn't be fraud is if you walked to the counter and stated "I would like a free water cup so that I can go to the soda fountain and fill it with soda please."  If the restaurant allows it, you're in the clear. 

[Can't Wait]

Uh huh. Sure you can't. But you can read the menu at Chipotle. The label on that water cup at Chipotle that says H2O is just as big (in the sense that it takes up the same portion of your field of view as) the menu at Chipotle.

Nope, can't read it. Maybe I could read it if they made the free cup larger.

[Can't Wait]

Yes. When I was a kid.  Then I was scolded so I wouldn't grow up into a sociopath.  That's generally how the process works so that we can keep a well-ordered, civil society. :-)

Actually, no, I haven't. Well, maybe when I was a kid like the other poster.

Well pin a rose on both of your noses. Aren't you guys just sooooooooooo special..

For real? Your suggestion is theft, pure and simple. What's so special about not being a petty thief?

I reply to your comment with the same dumbfoundedness that you replied to mine with... For real? I'm suggesting theft and I'm being a petty thief? They give me the cup for free and there is no rule posted anywhere in my Chipotle saying I have to fill it with water nor has any employee ever told me I couldn't fill it with whatever I wanted.

Pretty damn sassy for a noob, GovtWorker. Your attitude needs an adjustment if you want to last around here. The point of getting to FIRE is to do it by being smarter, not by being a cheat.

I'm sassy and my attitude needs an adjustment? Okay...if you say so.....


Like I said, my Chipotle has no rule saying I can't fill that cup up with soda and I've never been asked not to do it. I'm simply taking advantage of a loophole..which was the purpose of this whole thread. Someone posted tips about how to TAKE ADVANTAGE of Chipotle's serving practices.

It's not a loophole.  It's fraud.  I don't have to post signs in my house asking you to please not take my stuff if I ask you in for a cup of coffee. 

Buuuuuut, we aren't talking about someone taking things from your house or anyone's house. That is a completely ridiculous over-the-top comparison. We're talking about a guy paying for his food and asking for a free cup, then filling it with liquid from a beverage station.

It's not ridiculous or over the top.  You're trying to fabricate a level of nuance that doesn't exist in this situation in order to ameliorate your guilt.  This is fraud.  I'm really concerned that someone working in government has a faulty compass on this issue. 

The ONLY way this wouldn't be fraud is if you walked to the counter and stated "I would like a free water cup so that I can go to the soda fountain and fill it with soda please."  If the restaurant allows it, you're in the clear.

I see that you have some really strong feelings about the cup situation. I think...you should get dressed up in your Moral Police shirt, drive to your nearest Chipotle and stand guard at the soda station. You can tattle on everyone that commits "fraud."

And yes, I do work for the govt. In fact, they have deemed me a pretty trustworthy guy, which you would agree with if you actually knew me. They tend to give the stink eye to the guy who uses words like "ameliorate," says he's never taken a pen from work, browsed the interweb while on the clock, made a personal phone call while at work, etc. and you seem to be that kind of guy, given your strong stance on the cup situation. You sound like the type of guy that walks up to your boss and tells him/her how terrible you feel about that extra 3 minutes and 27 seconds you spent on lunch break.

[rocksinmyhead]

Water is the cheapest thing a restaurant can give away and helps promote/facilitate consuming the food.  Restaurants will give you water lagniappe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagniappe) as a goodwill gesture.

Why would you crap on that friendly gesture by returning the favor with theft?

Now before you equate this with the pound-for-pound comparison of a bowl vs burrito, the restaurant is literally deciding at that moment how much to scoop into either vessel.  While we may know that we generally get more food in the bowl vs burrito for the same price, that is simply being knowledgeable about the product offerings.  The restaurant could (and probably has) inspected the issue to ensure they aren't losing money in the process.  That tortilla on the side?  Again, it's a lagniappe the restaurant has decided to give a customer.  They could always refuse if they wanted to.

When you decide to make a fraudulent request for a cup of water, knowing full well that you intend to consume a costlier beverage, you are both ethically and legally wrong.

Right? I feel like this is incredibly straightforward and obvious, so much so that I can't even believe this conversation is happening! The only explanation is the GovtWorker is a troll...

[dragoncar]

I see that you have some really strong feelings about the cup situation. I think...you should get dressed up in your Moral Police shirt, drive to your nearest Chipotle and stand guard at the soda station. You can tattle on everyone that commits "fraud."

And yes, I do work for the govt. In fact, they have deemed me a pretty trustworthy guy, which you would agree with if you actually knew me. They tend to give the stink eye to the guy who uses words like "ameliorate," says he's never taken a pen from work, browsed the interweb while on the clock, made a personal phone call while at work, etc. and you seem to be that kind of guy, given your strong stance on the cup situation. You sound like the type of guy that walks up to your boss and tells him/her how terrible you feel about that extra 3 minutes and 27 seconds you spent on lunch break.

Jesus Christ... this guy, taking our tax dollars and browsing the Internet at work! 

[johnny847]

Uh huh. Sure you can't. But you can read the menu at Chipotle. The label on that water cup at Chipotle that says H2O is just as big (in the sense that it takes up the same portion of your field of view as) the menu at Chipotle.

Nope, can't read it. Maybe I could read it if they made the free cup larger.

Even you know that you're lying. It's not like it's written in fine print.

[DecD]

Yes. When I was a kid.  Then I was scolded so I wouldn't grow up into a sociopath.  That's generally how the process works so that we can keep a well-ordered, civil society. :-)

Actually, no, I haven't. Well, maybe when I was a kid like the other poster.

Well pin a rose on both of your noses. Aren't you guys just sooooooooooo special..

For real? Your suggestion is theft, pure and simple. What's so special about not being a petty thief?

I reply to your comment with the same dumbfoundedness that you replied to mine with... For real? I'm suggesting theft and I'm being a petty thief? They give me the cup for free and there is no rule posted anywhere in my Chipotle saying I have to fill it with water nor has any employee ever told me I couldn't fill it with whatever I wanted.

Pretty damn sassy for a noob, GovtWorker. Your attitude needs an adjustment if you want to last around here. The point of getting to FIRE is to do it by being smarter, not by being a cheat.

I'm sassy and my attitude needs an adjustment? Okay...if you say so.....


Like I said, my Chipotle has no rule saying I can't fill that cup up with soda and I've never been asked not to do it. I'm simply taking advantage of a loophole..which was the purpose of this whole thread. Someone posted tips about how to TAKE ADVANTAGE of Chipotle's serving practices.

It's not a loophole.  It's fraud.  I don't have to post signs in my house asking you to please not take my stuff if I ask you in for a cup of coffee. 

Buuuuuut, we aren't talking about someone taking things from your house or anyone's house. That is a completely ridiculous over-the-top comparison. We're talking about a guy paying for his food and asking for a free cup, then filling it with liquid from a beverage station.

It's not ridiculous or over the top.  You're trying to fabricate a level of nuance that doesn't exist in this situation in order to ameliorate your guilt.  This is fraud.  I'm really concerned that someone working in government has a faulty compass on this issue. 

The ONLY way this wouldn't be fraud is if you walked to the counter and stated "I would like a free water cup so that I can go to the soda fountain and fill it with soda please."  If the restaurant allows it, you're in the clear.

My thoughts exactly.

Come on, dude.  You know the free cup is intended for water. And if you are going to drink soda, you need to pay for the soda.  Doing otherwise is simply dishonest, plain and simple.  It is a crummy thing to do.

[Can't Wait]

Yes. When I was a kid.  Then I was scolded so I wouldn't grow up into a sociopath.  That's generally how the process works so that we can keep a well-ordered, civil society. :-)

Actually, no, I haven't. Well, maybe when I was a kid like the other poster.

Well pin a rose on both of your noses. Aren't you guys just sooooooooooo special..

For real? Your suggestion is theft, pure and simple. What's so special about not being a petty thief?

I reply to your comment with the same dumbfoundedness that you replied to mine with... For real? I'm suggesting theft and I'm being a petty thief? They give me the cup for free and there is no rule posted anywhere in my Chipotle saying I have to fill it with water nor has any employee ever told me I couldn't fill it with whatever I wanted.

Pretty damn sassy for a noob, GovtWorker. Your attitude needs an adjustment if you want to last around here. The point of getting to FIRE is to do it by being smarter, not by being a cheat.

I'm sassy and my attitude needs an adjustment? Okay...if you say so.....


Like I said, my Chipotle has no rule saying I can't fill that cup up with soda and I've never been asked not to do it. I'm simply taking advantage of a loophole..which was the purpose of this whole thread. Someone posted tips about how to TAKE ADVANTAGE of Chipotle's serving practices.

It's not a loophole.  It's fraud.  I don't have to post signs in my house asking you to please not take my stuff if I ask you in for a cup of coffee. 

Buuuuuut, we aren't talking about someone taking things from your house or anyone's house. That is a completely ridiculous over-the-top comparison. We're talking about a guy paying for his food and asking for a free cup, then filling it with liquid from a beverage station.

It's not ridiculous or over the top.  You're trying to fabricate a level of nuance that doesn't exist in this situation in order to ameliorate your guilt.  This is fraud.  I'm really concerned that someone working in government has a faulty compass on this issue. 

The ONLY way this wouldn't be fraud is if you walked to the counter and stated "I would like a free water cup so that I can go to the soda fountain and fill it with soda please."  If the restaurant allows it, you're in the clear.

My thoughts exactly.

Come on, dude.  You know the free cup is intended for water. And if you are going to drink soda, you need to pay for the soda.  Doing otherwise is simply dishonest, plain and simple.  It is a crummy thing to do.

Spitting on someone is a pretty crummy thing to do. Taking the cup that was given to me for free and filling it with something other than water just isn't something I would judge someone over.

But hey, there is no arguing with you all. Apparently, I'm a sociopathic, fraud committing, dishonest, petty thief troll who has a sassy attitude in need of adjustment because I don't fill my water cup with water haha.

I'll send a heart felt apology letter to Chipotle.

[dragoncar]

I'm a sociopathic, fraud committing, dishonest, petty thief troll who has a sassy attitude in need of adjustment

QFT

[Primm]

I'm a sociopathic, fraud committing, dishonest, petty thief troll who has a sassy attitude in need of adjustment

QFT

+1.

[fireferrets]

Tortilla on the side of burrito bowl has worked for me at three locations so far, I have never been refused.

Another tip for those flexitarians or vegetarians out there - get a vegetarian burrito bowl and you get guacamole included (as much as you'd like), so you don't have to pay for a side of guac. Just politely ask for more guac.

[Roland of Gilead]

If you really want the best bang for your buck, use the chipotle tabasco sauce liberally on your burrito.

That stuff is like $4 for a small bottle in the grocery store.

I always use about 5 bottles per visit to get the best deal possible.

[sheepstache]

I see that you have some really strong feelings about the cup situation. I think...you should get dressed up in your Moral Police shirt, drive to your nearest Chipotle and stand guard at the soda station. You can tattle on everyone that commits "fraud."

And yes, I do work for the govt. In fact, they have deemed me a pretty trustworthy guy, which you would agree with if you actually knew me. They tend to give the stink eye to the guy who uses words like "ameliorate," says he's never taken a pen from work, browsed the interweb while on the clock, made a personal phone call while at work, etc. and you seem to be that kind of guy, given your strong stance on the cup situation. You sound like the type of guy that walks up to your boss and tells him/her how terrible you feel about that extra 3 minutes and 27 seconds you spent on lunch break.

Jesus Christ... this guy, taking our tax dollars and browsing the Internet at work!

I dunno, I'm thinking about it more and I like to think he works for the IRS.

[OSUBearCub]

I see that you have some really strong feelings about the cup situation. I think...you should get dressed up in your Moral Police shirt, drive to your nearest Chipotle and stand guard at the soda station. You can tattle on everyone that commits "fraud."

And yes, I do work for the govt. In fact, they have deemed me a pretty trustworthy guy, which you would agree with if you actually knew me. They tend to give the stink eye to the guy who uses words like "ameliorate," says he's never taken a pen from work, browsed the interweb while on the clock, made a personal phone call while at work, etc. and you seem to be that kind of guy, given your strong stance on the cup situation. You sound like the type of guy that walks up to your boss and tells him/her how terrible you feel about that extra 3 minutes and 27 seconds you spent on lunch break.

Jesus Christ... this guy, taking our tax dollars and browsing the Internet at work!

I dunno, I'm thinking about it more and I like to think he works for the IRS.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

http://nyu.spoonuniversity.com/food-thought/upgrade-chipotle-experience/

[sheepstache]

I see that you have some really strong feelings about the cup situation. I think...you should get dressed up in your Moral Police shirt, drive to your nearest Chipotle and stand guard at the soda station. You can tattle on everyone that commits "fraud."

And yes, I do work for the govt. In fact, they have deemed me a pretty trustworthy guy, which you would agree with if you actually knew me. They tend to give the stink eye to the guy who uses words like "ameliorate," says he's never taken a pen from work, browsed the interweb while on the clock, made a personal phone call while at work, etc. and you seem to be that kind of guy, given your strong stance on the cup situation. You sound like the type of guy that walks up to your boss and tells him/her how terrible you feel about that extra 3 minutes and 27 seconds you spent on lunch break.

Jesus Christ... this guy, taking our tax dollars and browsing the Internet at work!

I dunno, I'm thinking about it more and I like to think he works for the IRS.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

http://nyu.spoonuniversity.com/food-thought/upgrade-chipotle-experience/

Psycho narcissist or not, I like the idea that this guy from the IRS has loose morals and therefore accepts them in others. He's the guy you want auditing you when your argument is, "Okay, there's nothing saying you can take this deduction but there's no rule telling you not to..." or, "Well, the tax code is so long that I can't read the whole thing..."

(Am I the only one for whom that 'order vegetarian to get free guacamole' "tip" isn't a revelation? It's right on the menu.)

[arebelspy]

(Am I the only one for whom that 'order vegetarian to get free guacamole' "tip" isn't a revelation? It's right on the menu.)

I knew that as well, but I don't even understand it as a tip.

That means I don't get meat, right?  What the hell's the point of eating there then?

You want me to trade the meat for guacamole?  Uh, no.  If there was a veggie burrito and you needed to pay $1 to add meat, I would.  I wouldn't pay the $1 to add guac.  Meat > guac.  This tip is useless for someone who likes meat, and for someone who doesn't, they're already going to be ordering the vegetarian option anyways!  So who does this tip help?  Again, I just don't understand the tip.

[MandalayVA]

Yes. When I was a kid.  Then I was scolded so I wouldn't grow up into a sociopath.  That's generally how the process works so that we can keep a well-ordered, civil society. :-)

Actually, no, I haven't. Well, maybe when I was a kid like the other poster.

Well pin a rose on both of your noses. Aren't you guys just sooooooooooo special..

For real? Your suggestion is theft, pure and simple. What's so special about not being a petty thief?

I reply to your comment with the same dumbfoundedness that you replied to mine with... For real? I'm suggesting theft and I'm being a petty thief? They give me the cup for free and there is no rule posted anywhere in my Chipotle saying I have to fill it with water nor has any employee ever told me I couldn't fill it with whatever I wanted.

Pretty damn sassy for a noob, GovtWorker. Your attitude needs an adjustment if you want to last around here. The point of getting to FIRE is to do it by being smarter, not by being a cheat.

I'm sassy and my attitude needs an adjustment? Okay...if you say so.....


Like I said, my Chipotle has no rule saying I can't fill that cup up with soda and I've never been asked not to do it. I'm simply taking advantage of a loophole..which was the purpose of this whole thread. Someone posted tips about how to TAKE ADVANTAGE of Chipotle's serving practices.

It's not a loophole.  It's fraud.  I don't have to post signs in my house asking you to please not take my stuff if I ask you in for a cup of coffee. 

Buuuuuut, we aren't talking about someone taking things from your house or anyone's house. That is a completely ridiculous over-the-top comparison. We're talking about a guy paying for his food and asking for a free cup, then filling it with liquid from a beverage station.

It's not ridiculous or over the top.  You're trying to fabricate a level of nuance that doesn't exist in this situation in order to ameliorate your guilt.  This is fraud.  I'm really concerned that someone working in government has a faulty compass on this issue. 

The ONLY way this wouldn't be fraud is if you walked to the counter and stated "I would like a free water cup so that I can go to the soda fountain and fill it with soda please."  If the restaurant allows it, you're in the clear.

My thoughts exactly.

Come on, dude.  You know the free cup is intended for water. And if you are going to drink soda, you need to pay for the soda.  Doing otherwise is simply dishonest, plain and simple.  It is a crummy thing to do.

Spitting on someone is a pretty crummy thing to do. Taking the cup that was given to me for free and filling it with something other than water just isn't something I would judge someone over.

But hey, there is no arguing with you all. Apparently, I'm a sociopathic, fraud committing, dishonest, petty thief troll who has a sassy attitude in need of adjustment because I don't fill my water cup with water haha.

I'll send a heart felt apology letter to Chipotle.

[Can't Wait]

LOL - I'll say...

Pretty straight and narrow crowd here in this thread.

Better not let any of them catch you taking more than one sample from the sample cart at Costco or doing a rolling stop thru a stop sign on a deserted road somewhere...you know, things that people should be put in jail for..

[dragoncar]

(Am I the only one for whom that 'order vegetarian to get free guacamole' "tip" isn't a revelation? It's right on the menu.)

I knew that as well, but I don't even understand it as a tip.

That means I don't get meat, right?  What the hell's the point of eating there then?

You want me to trade the meat for guacamole?  Uh, no.  If there was a veggie burrito and you needed to pay $1 to add meat, I would.  I wouldn't pay the $1 to add guac.  Meat > guac.  This tip is useless for someone who likes meat, and for someone who doesn't, they're already going to be ordering the vegetarian option anyways!  So who does this tip help?  Again, I just don't understand the tip.

Guys, this 1 weird tip can save you hundreds at chipotle.  You can get FREE RICE on any burrito!  Just ask.

If you really want the best bang for your buck, use the chipotle tabasco sauce liberally on your burrito.

That stuff is like $4 for a small bottle in the grocery store.

I always use about 5 bottles per visit to get the best deal possible.

It would be wrong to outright take five bottles.  But there's no rule saying you can't fill your water cup with hot sauce and re bottle it later at home. 

[sheepstache]

(Am I the only one for whom that 'order vegetarian to get free guacamole' "tip" isn't a revelation? It's right on the menu.)

I knew that as well, but I don't even understand it as a tip.

That means I don't get meat, right?  What the hell's the point of eating there then?

You want me to trade the meat for guacamole?  Uh, no.  If there was a veggie burrito and you needed to pay $1 to add meat, I would.  I wouldn't pay the $1 to add guac.  Meat > guac.  This tip is useless for someone who likes meat, and for someone who doesn't, they're already going to be ordering the vegetarian option anyways!  So who does this tip help?  Again, I just don't understand the tip.

I think there were vegetarians who were saying 'no' when the servers asked if they wanted guacamole, because they didn't want to pay extra, not realizing it was free.

Further proof that vegetarianism addles the brain.

(Confession: I always order the vegetarian. I get plenty of meat at home and avocados are expensive/not very good here, so gobs of good quality guac > meat for me in this particular circumstance. Perhaps the sunny climes of Nevada and its proximity to the lovely produce of CA and Mexico affects your preference.)

[rocksinmyhead]

bahahaha dragoncar pretty much everything you say cracks me up. thanks for the Friday LOLZ

[arebelspy]

bahahaha dragoncar pretty much everything you say cracks me up. thanks for the Friday LOLZ

+1.  Dragoncar has stepped up her game over the past few months.

[Dicey]

(Am I the only one for whom that 'order vegetarian to get free guacamole' "tip" isn't a revelation? It's right on the menu.)

I knew that as well, but I don't even understand it as a tip.

That means I don't get meat, right?  What the hell's the point of eating there then?

You want me to trade the meat for guacamole?  Uh, no.  If there was a veggie burrito and you needed to pay $1 to add meat, I would.  I wouldn't pay the $1 to add guac.  Meat > guac.  This tip is useless for someone who likes meat, and for someone who doesn't, they're already going to be ordering the vegetarian option anyways!  So who does this tip help?  Again, I just don't understand the tip.

I think there were vegetarians who were saying 'no' when the servers asked if they wanted guacamole, because they didn't want to pay extra, not realizing it was free. No, they either didn't want to get incorrectly charged for it, or be forced to argue with the Chipotle staffer who doesn't know the rules. Total PITA.

Further proof that vegetarianism addles the brain. I agree my brain is addled, but I think it's the sheer joy of FIRE, not vegetarianism.

(Confession: I always order the vegetarian. I get plenty of meat at home and avocados are expensive/not very good here, so gobs of good quality guac > meat for me in this particular circumstance. Perhaps the sunny climes of Nevada and its proximity to the lovely produce of CA and Mexico affects your preference.) I buy my avocados at Costco (every Tuesday is Taco Tuesday at our house), where I liberally help myself to any non-meat samples available, because they GIVE them to me.

We used to live near a Chipotle and it was our go-to quick meal, especially when we were prepping the house for sale. Since moving a year ago, we have been there only once or twice. We went last week and I noticed that the portions were smaller. Oh well, the chips still rock.

And dragoncar, I'll never look at that rack of hot sauce again without thinking of you.

[Transcensionist]

Wow, apparently I forgot to check back on this thread so I stopped getting notifications and it blew up a little. I guess mustachians love their Chipotle.

Is it a common thing to do the 'quote quote quote quote block of text quote quote' thing here? It looks a little ridiculous trying to catch up on a thread to have to sift through all those blocks of the same words being re-posted over and over.

Anyway. I also asked an employee once when it was my birthday if they did anything special for that. She wasn't sure and called the manager over even though I said it was no biggie, just curious since they did the boorito giveaway on Halloween. He asked to see my ID then comp'd my meal. Rock on Chipotle.

I also tried the smile at the staff tip last time and got a huge meat hookup. Recommended.

[arebelspy]

Is it a common thing to do the 'quote quote quote quote block of text quote quote' thing here? It looks a little ridiculous trying to catch up on a thread to have to sift through all those blocks of the same words being re-posted over and over.

It has a blue box around the background so you can easily skim past it, or glance at it to see what they're replying to.

I try to only quote one or two posts at most, and delete the other embedded ones, but sometimes I get lazy.

[Primm]

Is it a common thing to do the 'quote quote quote quote block of text quote quote' thing here? It looks a little ridiculous trying to catch up on a thread to have to sift through all those blocks of the same words being re-posted over and over.

It has a blue box around the background so you can easily skim past it, or glance at it to see what they're replying to.

I try to only quote one or two posts at most, and delete the other embedded ones, but sometimes I get lazy.

It makes it much easier to see which conversation you're replying to when there are a couple of themes going in a thread too. Like ARS said, if you don't want to read the quotes just skip over the blue boxes.

Blue boxes. Black boxes. Orange boxes. Haven't we ... wait. Sorry.

[dragoncar]

Is it a common thing to do the 'quote quote quote quote block of text quote quote' thing here? It looks a little ridiculous trying to catch up on a thread to have to sift through all those blocks of the same words being re-posted over and over.

It has a blue box around the background so you can easily skim past it, or glance at it to see what they're replying to.

I try to only quote one or two posts at most, and delete the other embedded ones, but sometimes I get lazy.

Easy to skim, but more of a pain on mobile.  But on mobile it's a pain to accurately remove nested quotes, so I quote everything.  Some people delete/edit their posts, so I like to quote for posterity.

[johnny847]

Yea when I quote I generally quote everything, because sometimes when I cut stuff out I end up attributing quotes to the wrong user.

[fartface]

Yes. When I was a kid.  Then I was scolded so I wouldn't grow up into a sociopath.  That's generally how the process works so that we can keep a well-ordered, civil society. :-)

Actually, no, I haven't. Well, maybe when I was a kid like the other poster.

Well pin a rose on both of your noses. Aren't you guys just sooooooooooo special..

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

[dragoncar]

Yea when I quote I generally quote everything, because sometimes when I cut stuff out I end up attributing quotes to the wrong user.

Who are you even talking to right now?

[johnny847]

Yea when I quote I generally quote everything, because sometimes when I cut stuff out I end up attributing quotes to the wrong user.

Who are you even talking to right now?

Is it a common thing to do the 'quote quote quote quote block of text quote quote' thing here? It looks a little ridiculous trying to catch up on a thread to have to sift through all those blocks of the same words being re-posted over and over.

[Bikeguy]

I always ask for the free water cup, then fill it with the carbonated beverage of my choice.

My friend's Dad used to say, " If you are going to steal, steal big.  Either way you are a thief."

[arebelspy]

Yea when I quote I generally quote everything, because sometimes when I cut stuff out I end up attributing quotes to the wrong user.

Who are you even talking to right now?

Is it a common thing to do the 'quote quote quote quote block of text quote quote' thing here? It looks a little ridiculous trying to catch up on a thread to have to sift through all those blocks of the same words being re-posted over and over.

Dragoncar was making a joke that she didn't understand what you were talking about because you didn't quote anyone.

[Jack]

Smile and tell the server if you can have a little extra meat.    They usually will add more without charging you.   Never seen them not do it for you

I tend to ask for half barbacoa, half carnitas. I usually end up with something like 65% barbacoa, 65% carnitas. The extra meat is not why I do it -- I just like both kinds -- but I'm also not going to complain about getting extra!

I think they've recently changed their menu so that carnitas and barbacoa aren't the same price anymore, which is unfortunate.

I've only ever gotten barbacoa. Never burnt because it is not cooked on a grill. I believe its boiled in water? Not sure exactly. But I've ate at Chipotle for years (cut down a lot since I've turned Mustachian) and never gotten burnt barbacoa.

If you're trying to do more cooking at home and you don't know what braising is, you need to find out, fast!

I'm a sociopathic, fraud committing, dishonest, petty thief troll who has a sassy attitude in need of adjustment

QFT

+1.

+2

Yea when I quote I generally quote everything, because sometimes when I cut stuff out I end up attributing quotes to the wrong user.

I quote carefully so I don't make that mistake.

[Can't Wait]

I always ask for the free water cup, then fill it with the carbonated beverage of my choice.

My friend's Dad used to say, " If you are going to steal, steal big.  Either way you are a thief."

My friend's dad used to say.... "who cares............"

[arebelspy]

You know what my grandfather said?  GET BACK TO WORK!

[dragoncar]

You know what my grandfather said?  GET BACK TO WORK!

GET OFF MY LAWN!

[iris lily]

I always ask for the free water cup, then fill it with the carbonated beverage of my choice.

Instead of paying for anything I just take the burrito and run out the door.

I walk in with a gun and tell them to give me all of their money in the register as well as a beef burrito with extra cheese.