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Rich M

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An outdoor vacation example of extreme savings
« on: April 18, 2013, 11:19:20 AM »
Last week, eight great friends embarked on a four day White Rim Bike trip.  The trip involves riding bikes on the 100 mile White Rim jeep trail in Canyonlands national park, Utah--and camping three nights.   A truck is used as a sag-wagon to carry water, camping gear and delicious food and drink.

Option one: Using an outfitter: $ 925/person not including transportation to Moab, Utah or alcohol.

Total cost: $7400 plus tip!

Advantages: 

--Maybe meet new people
--Someone caters your dinner and cleans-up
--No worries about logistics
--You ride all of it, they drive.

Option two: self-supported, our choice

Cost:

--$30 permit
--$10 park fee for vehicle
--$20 for homemade pasta meal for 8 people.
--$15 Stir fry meal
--$15 fajitas dinner
--$20 appetizers
--$12 stove fuel
--$50 breakfasts total.
--$50 lunches total
--$50 Gasoline/wear and tear on truck.

Total: ~$272 or $34 / person.

To be fair, we had to have someone with a 4wd truck to realize this level of savings but even if not, we could have rented one for $500 for the trip putting total cost at $772--Still cheap for 8 people.

Advantages:

--Ridiculous cost savings.
--Adventure of handling logistics.
--The social aspect of each couple cooking a meal for the group on a night.

It was a blast!




(PS: one thing to add that might appear hypocritical from the mustachism point of view for some is that it might look like a fortune of expensive bikes here. There are several high quality bikes but not super over the top.  There is only one beater bike but the others are moderate quality that were either purchased as old models cheaply or built from highly discounted parts found from pro-deals, close-outs.  And to add, the folks on this ride are not weekend warriors.  We all ride thousands of mountain bike miles a year and even commute to work on these bikes.)

« Last Edit: April 19, 2013, 07:32:55 PM by Rich M »

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Re: An outdoor vacation example of extreme savings
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2013, 11:21:33 AM »
Wow, beautiful.  I prefer self supported bike camping, but it is indeed nice to mountain bike without the extra weight.  Plus, SAG wagon means you can carry MORE BEER!

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Re: An outdoor vacation example of extreme savings
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2013, 12:42:37 PM »
Wow, beautiful.  I prefer self supported bike camping, but it is indeed nice to mountain bike without the extra weight.  Plus, SAG wagon means you can carry MORE BEER!

I have done this trip self supported, but by riding it in one day.  I know of people doing multi-day bike supported using a Bob trailer to carry 40 lbs of water.  The problem with the white rim is access to water. 

This is definitely a party ride!

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Re: An outdoor vacation example of extreme savings
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2013, 02:35:41 PM »
Impressive!

Have been on a few tent campouts lately with the cubscouts and it is amazing how little we really need to live on. The rest is just clutter.

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Re: An outdoor vacation example of extreme savings
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2013, 03:31:56 PM »
How did the self-support work? Someone volunteers to sit out each day, drive to the next campsite and wait for everyone else to get there?

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Re: An outdoor vacation example of extreme savings
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2013, 07:14:43 PM »
How did the self-support work? Someone volunteers to sit out each day, drive to the next campsite and wait for everyone else to get there?

Yes! Pretty much--with a volunteer sitting out half a day.  I should have added "no driving at all" under the advantage of an outfitter.. but having to drive 12 miles out of a 100 to save $7000 as a group is a pretty small price for sure.

We took turns driving to designated sections.  We had 8 people and 4 days so each person basically was on scheduled to drive 12 miles.  The sag stayed in the rear (and actually parked for a hour or so so they didn't bear down on the last riders) which is good and bad.  The good is if someone needed help, it was there.  The bad is the first riders arriving to the next destination sat around waiting--I solved this by putting beer in my pack and utilizing the time to explore and photograph.

In the end, the driving was done by 6 people because there were a couple people who were too tired near the end to ride and preferred to drive.

I have done this times before with 15 people and two trucks where we had a non-cyclist who drove full time and we sent one sag ahead and one in the rear.

I also had a trip where I drove the lead sag early, parked and rode back to the group, then rode with them, giving me a longer ride than if I just rode instead of driving.

Another way to experience this is to ride the 100 miles in one day in 10-12 hours carrying about two gallons of water and 4000 calories of food.  It's the least expensive of all options but it's like a marathon and the goal is more about the accomplishment than the party atmosphere.

The nice aspect of the multi-day ride is the time to explore other hikes such as the Holeman slot....and to consume high quality food and booze!
« Last Edit: April 18, 2013, 07:38:56 PM by Rich M »

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Re: An outdoor vacation example of extreme savings
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2013, 08:19:56 PM »
Sounds like an awesome trip. I wish I had more friends who were into mountain biking.

 

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